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december
16-05-2007, 10:38 PM
In case someone didn't know -

http://jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-USSR.html

All Bolsheviks were Jews.

http://gfdl.marxists.org.uk/subject/bolsheviks/montage.jpg

The Bolsheviks (Russian: Большеви́к, derived from bolshinstvo, "majority") were a faction of the Marxist Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (RSDLP) which split apart from the Menshevik faction at the Second Party Congress in 1903 and ultimately became the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The Bolsheviks seized power in Russia during the October Revolution phase of the Russian Revolution of 1917, and founded the Soviet Union.

Bolsheviks were an organization of professional revolutionaries under a strict internal hierarchy governed by the principle of democratic centralism and quasi-military discipline, who considered themselves as a vanguard of the revolutionary proletariat. Their beliefs and practices were often referred to as Bolshevism. The party was founded by Vladimir Lenin, who also led it in the October Revolution.

december
17-05-2007, 09:53 PM
Soviets Razed Churches - Spared Synagogues

http://www.flagsonline.it/Bandiere/bangrandi/ussr.jpg

Henry Makow
2-14-7

In October, a reader sent a penetrating question: "When Bolshevism took over Russia, they tried to eliminate religion. Their stated philosophy was atheism and they closed Christian Churches and killed or imprisoned the clergy."

"However, did they also close Jewish synagogues and kill or imprison the rabbis? The answer to this question will explain many things about the early days of Communism and I hope you can provide the truth."

Last week, I stumbled across the answer in a book by American historian Edwin Schoonmaker:

"Fifteen years after the Bolshevist Revolution was launched to carry out the Marxist program, the editor of the American Hebrew could write: "According to such information that the writer could secure while in Russia a few weeks ago, not one Jewish synagogue has been torn down, as have hundreds¡ª perhaps thousands of the Greek Catholic Churches. ... In Moscow and other large cities one can see Christian churches in the process of destruction...the Government needs the location for a large building," (American Hebrew, Nov. 18, 1932, p. 12) Apostate Jews, leading a revolution that was to destroy religion as the "opiate of the people" had somehow spared the synagogues of Russia." ("Democracy and World Dominion," 1939, p.211)

If the Communists hated God and religion so much, why didn't they destroy synagogues too? Do Christianity and Judaism worship the same God? Or can a religion that claims an exclusive God be a religion? Could it be that Judaism is a really a secret society like Freemasonry where the members don't know the hidden agenda, which is in fact expressed by Communism? Although many religious Jews were anti Communist, Schoonmaker's information suggests there may be an affinity between Talmudic Judaism and pagan satanic Communism.

READ MORE -

http://www.rense.com/general75/spared.htm

times7
30-05-2007, 02:16 PM
Religious Jews are Gods children,atheist Jews are commie lapdogs

december
30-05-2007, 07:11 PM
Religious Jews are Gods children,atheist Jews are commie lapdogs

What makes the Jews "Gods children", times7?



Soviets Razed Churches - Spared Synagogues

http://www.rense.com/general75/spared.htm

times7
01-06-2007, 07:39 PM
What makes the Jews "Gods children", times7?



Soviets Razed Churches - Spared Synagogues

http://www.rense.com/general75/spared.htm


Religious Jews are anti zionist and therefore fight satan,or they should,because zionism is anti semetic and vile,NWO = one world leader=anti christ

Zionism is evil,dam they ARE going to blow iSRAEL of the map soon,as spelled out in Albert Pikes letter,zionism is the NWO.

If anyone reading this has never read Pikes letter go to google and research it,its real

times7
01-06-2007, 07:44 PM
Israel is an illegal country made to be destroyed by the zionist NWO

december
01-06-2007, 08:43 PM
Israel is an illegal country made to be destroyed by the zionist NWO

I am not sure about that... The official religion of Israel is Judaism. Correct?

Well, let's see what their plans are:

http://www.radioislam.org/lebanon/jewish-gifs/Jews-at-work_files/Jewsatwork.jpg

For more information (plans) read the Deuteronomy in the Old Testament.

http://etext.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/RsvDeut.html

edro9494
02-06-2007, 05:54 PM
everyone on this thread needs to read The Synagogue of Satan by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Amazon.com: The Synagogue of Satan (9781930004450): Andrew Carrington Hitchcock: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41kjzakNhQL.@@AMEPARAM@@41kjzakNhQL

also check out The Coming of World War III by Richard Osborne Amazon.com: The Coming of World War III (9781424305520): Richard T. Osborne: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Q16DECETL.@@AMEPARAM@@41Q16DECETL

The Rothschilds, who founded and control Is-ra-el, are to expand its boundaries in the middleeast. Israel is the vehicle from which to destroy the rest of the civilized world as it will be the trigger point of the third world war which will be/has been concocted to destroy all existing systems, beliefs, and populations to pave the way for the one world system. Israel will then be central command.

"Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them."
Malaysian Prime Minister Mahatir Mohamed

Remember Askenazis claim to be Jews, but they are not historically. They are Khazarians from the Cacausus Mts in Eastern Russia. It's true that those who are pulling the strings, at a glance, claim themselves as Jews. However, the Khazarians infiltrated and "converted" to Judaism in the 6-7th century. It's a deception within a deception. Jews are the real stringpullers, but they historically are NOT Hebrews, but Khazars. "Jew" is a term which did not exist until the 18th century.

check out Iamthewitness.com to learn what Alex Jones and David Icke do not address and lets further the ball down the field by getting the entire picture of the "Illuminati" pyramid. Zionism is the largest "block" of the pyramid and is lleast talked about. Why?

edro9494
02-06-2007, 05:59 PM
"I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan." Revelation 2:9

december
03-06-2007, 08:10 PM
Yakov Mikhaylovich Sverdlov (Russian: Я́ков Миха́йлович Свердло́в), born Yankel Movshevich Eiman (Russian: Я́нкель Мовшевич Эйман); known underpseudonyms "Andrey", "Mikhalych", "Max", "Smirnov", "Permyakov" (June 3 [O.S. May 22] 1885 – March 16, 1919) was a Bolshevik party leader and an official of pre-Soviet Union Soviet Russia.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/YakovSverdlov.jpg

33 years old Yakov Sverdlov (Yankel Movshevich Eiman), the son of a Jewish engraver, ordered the execution of Tsar Nicholas II and his family on July 16, 1918.

http://www.uwm.edu/People/mjteske/images/picfamily.jpg

http://www.glintofgold.org/romanovs/pics/1913-2.jpg

He was born in Nizhny Novgorod to Jewish parents. He joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1902, and then the Bolshevik faction, supporting Vladimir Lenin. He was involved in the 1905 revolution.

After his arrest in June 1906, for most of the time until 1917 he was either imprisoned or exiled.

After the 1917 February Revolution he returned to Petrograd from exile and was re-elected to the Central Committee. He played an important role in planning the October Revolution. Research in 1990 by the Moscow playwright and historian Edvard Radzinsky uncovered Sverdlov's role in the execution of Tsar Nicholas II and his family.

A close ally of Vladimir Lenin, Sverdlov played an important role in persuading leading Bolsheviks to accept the controversial decisions to close down the Constituent Assembly and the signing of the Brest-Litovsk Treaty. It was claimed that Lenin provided the theories and Sverdlov made sure they worked.

He is sometimes referred to as the first head of state of the Soviet Union but this is not correct since the Soviet Union only came into existence in 1922. As chairman of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee (VTsIK) he was the de facto head of state of the Russian SFSR from shortly after the October Revolution until the time of his death.

He died of influenza in Oryol during the 1918 Spanish influenza epidemic.

The city of Yekaterinburg was renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 to honour Sverdlov. However, in 1991, as Russia's leader Boris Yeltsin helped return pre-Soviet names in the Soviet Union, the name was changed back to Yekaterinburg.

The Imperial Russian Navy destroyer leader Novik (commissioned in 1913) was renamed Yakov Sverdlov in 1923. The first ship of Sverdlov class cruisers was also named after him.

A slab of marble bearing his name is in Lenin's Mausoleum in Moscow.

Yakov Sverdlov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.waytorussia.net/Siberia/Ekaterinburg/Photos/OperaHouse_Sverdlov.jpg

Ekaterinburg Opera and Ballet House.

This beautiful building was opened in 1912 due to growing demand from the theater-loving public.

The theater was designed by St Petersburg architect Semenov, who won a nation-wide design competition with his submission ÒSvetlanaÓ. The theater was known by this name for a long time afterwards. The interior of the building is equally sumptuous. There is usually one performance held here each weekday and two on weekends from September to July. On the boulevard just across from the Opera House stands a statue of Yakov Sverdlov, the prominent Bolshevik, leading orator, and at one point the assumed successor to Lenin, after whom Ekaterinburg was named during the Soviet era.

http://www.waytorussia.net/Siberia/Ekaterinburg/GoingOut.html

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUSsverdlov.JPG

Yakov Mikhaylovich Sverdlov real name - Yankel Movshevich Eiman.

hapax
25-06-2007, 01:15 PM
The Prop Masters: Jews and Communism article here. (http://www.revisionisthistory.org/communist.html)

How Many Did Communist Regimes Murder? - detailed study here. (http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/rummel/com.art.htm) with the full statistics here. (http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/rummel/note5.htm)

"Without mercy, without sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and Vólodarsky, let there be floods of the blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!" -- Zinoviev (Grigorij Apfelbaum), Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918

"From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt, to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky . . . this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development and envious malevolence, and impossible equality has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the nineteenth century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire." -- Winston Churchill, Sunday Illustrated Herald 8 February 1920, London.

"In this new organization of Humanity, the children of Israel, scattered to all corners of the earth, will be transformed, with no opposition at all, into the ruling class, above all, they will gather the working masses under their exclusive control. The Governments of the nations composing the future universal Republic will fall, without force, into the hands of the Israelites, thanks to the victory of the proletariat. Private property then will be eliminated by governments of the Jewish race who will administer, everywhere, the public funds." -- Letter from Marx to Baruch (Oscar) Levi.

"While Europe is aflame, while its victims scream, while its dogs howl in the conflagration, and while its very smoke descends in darker and even darker shades upon our Continent, the Jews, or at least a part of them and by no means the most unworthy ones, endeavor to escape from the burning building, and wish to retire from Europe into Asia, from the somber scene of our disaster into the sunny corner of their Palestine".-- Letter from Oscar Levy to George Pitt-Rivers, July 1920.

By the way, who's going to help the Jews this time? They've run out of friends completely - and once the USA realizes what the unspeakable Jew has done to it they will be finished. They can run, but they can't hide.

december
30-06-2007, 12:08 AM
The Prop Masters: Jews and Communism article here. (http://www.revisionisthistory.org/communist.html)

How Many Did Communist Regimes Murder? - detailed study here. (http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/rummel/com.art.htm) with the full statistics here. (http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/rummel/note5.htm)


Hello, hapax.
Thank you for the articles. Yes, it is true - the leaders of Soviet Russia were all Jews...
If you read Russian then I can give you the info about the Gulag camps in the USSR with the names of people who were the heads of these camps.

ALL of them were Jews.

fccool
01-07-2007, 09:19 AM
I think most of the people of the world have a misconception of what "Jew" "and "Judahism" are. Most of the people who you concider "Jews" are not Jews. Let me explain why.

When the nation of Israel was formed way back when... it was 12 tribes. You were a Jew is you were from the house of Judah (hence the name) and eventually two other tribes were equated to the house of Judah - Levites and Benjaminaties. They formed the kingdom at the south of Israel. In fact the first time the term Jew was mentioned in Torah... the Jews were at war with Israelis. I know it sounds weird, but if you interested enough you can check it out ... 1 Kings. Eventually, all Jews were Israelites, but not all Israelites were Jews.

So it is today. You can not call yourself a Jew, unless you can check out that you ancestors were part of one of these tribes. Most of the russian "Jews" were Kazars. They were not Jews at all. Kazars were a nation that was converted to Judahism by force of one of its kings (Much like Constantine "christianized" the entire nation).

Modern state of Israel has very little to do with religion, and much to do with control of the world policies. I believe it is not run by Israelis, but Zionists are being used as puppets by somebody unseen acting behind the scenes. It is in their besy interest to keep the region destabilized, because in this state they can be in control.

Zionists are being used to control United States because of its Christian roots. This is the only way people in the US would agree to bomb Iraq and Iran... because Saddam and Mahmud "threatened to whipe Israel off the map". That's all you hear today. He said "whipe Israel off the map". Bomb this bastard!

At the same time the US is being set up for a collapse. The government is being framed for 9-11. I have no doubt that it had to be complicit, but I highly doubt that they created the plan. So many clues have been left, that it's amazing how "incompetent" these people are. If these people really wanted you to think that muslims perpetrated 9-11... you would be thinking this by now. But istead they have left orgy of evidence behind them..... Incredible orgy of evidence against them, because they want you to believe a certain version of the story.

Do you want to know the real purpose for Hitler and Stalin? You would be surprised... It is the hegimony of the Dollar that we have today. Here's how.

Hitler was raised to power and provoked into war. They needed an idealist who would be insane enough to lead Germany into a world war. They created economic conditions that would provide these results. At the same time they created an antithesis who could appose Hitler and sent Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin) to consolidate power in Russia. Both of the regimes were highly nationalistic and highly idealistic. This was the only way to get millions of people involved in war they don't want to be a part of. Both of my grandfathers went through this war, and one have died. They believed that they were liberating Russia and the world, but they in fact contributed to world enslavement in a way. Why did Hitler attack Russia? The spies were fed incorrect information that stated that Stalin is planning for a massive attack. Hitler decided to invade preemptively (George Bush style). I think if he did not, Stalin would eventually be provoked to start the war.
Natzis hit Ukraine pretty hard. Stalin knew about Hitlers attack, but he did not do much about attack on Ukraine, which was the first one to suffer. I don't know if he was excecuting the scripted plan, or if he was controlled into doing it... I guess it is not important because the results were the same. Tens of millions of Ukrainians have died and you will never hear about this holocaust (both from Stalin forced starvation in 1932 and then Hitler's attack in 1941).
Hitler was doomed to loose, because he was provoked to attack Russia in winter. People simply left into woods, while burning all of the food supplies and then sabotaged the railway convoys by blowing up the bridges. So Russa pushed back all the way back to Berlin leaving yet another path of destruction behind. Russian soldiers were not much better than US soldiers today, or Natzi ones. They raped women and stole cattle and food from people. It was do or die, and people will do the craziest things.

Then USA was provoked into joining the war at the last moment when Europe was at the brink of ruin. England was in ruins. Russia has done most of the damage by the time US entervened and forced Hitler to fight the war on two fronts.

Now let's talk about that. USA is a relatively young nation. It has just been handed over to Banking interests in 1913, which artificially staged the Great Depression in 1929. How convenient and "coincidential". The factories are standing still and people are out of jobs. They can not possibly finance the war. Along comes Japan and is provoked into attacking USA base. It was a desperate attack because US embargo was starving Japan to death. I won't go into details, but you can read these here http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25637

USA drops two nukes on Japan showing the world that they are now the force to be reconed with. Then they come and help Russia and Britain finish Germany which would collapse on itself anyway. The Japan is in Ruins, Europe is in ruins, Russia is in ruins. Everything is in ruins, but United States... they did not fight the war on USA front... and I believe it was planned to be so. Very carefully planned.

So now... we see the causes... let's veview the effects.

Russia (Soviet Union) was driven out of Europe and Was isolated to its eventual collapse.
Germany was to pay reparations for a looong time. Japan is in radiocative mess.
China is still recovering from the mess with Japan.

USA..... is on top with militarized economy and unlimited support of the world for it's "liberation". In fact, what is going on behind the scenes is... the establishment of US dollar as a gloabal floating currency that is "a good as gold". This is the single reason for American prosperety today. After the war the agreements were made to trade the most important commodities in Dollars in exchage for world economic stability. USA naturally took advantage and exported dollars, while enjoying growing service economy domestically. Banks opened up unlimited credit lines to people and economy "boomed". People had no clue. The borders were closed and trade was controlled. Americans like to think that they are working harder than people in other countries and they attribute their national success to this "hard work". I know I'm generalizing, but the majority of this "success" is due to the established Dollar hegimony, which drove the developing countries further into shithole, because now they have to trade at prices "set by the markets". So the local currency is artificially devalued and 1 dollar is worth several thousand of local currency units. People can't afford to buy clothes that they make in sweatshops. They are locked into a perpetual poverty because they believe in a construct we call "Money".

So you see, people who rule the world will never reveal themselves untill they can convince the world that they are "gods"... because this is what it seems their ultimate goal is. In the beginning of 20th century this world was very "localized". It would be inconcievable to think that several people can rule the whole world. But if you look at it now... everything is set up for one final move - the collapse of the US economy and subsequently the world economy. This is the reason that son Bush was instituted as a president. To blaim the collapse on the Idiot scape goat. This is the single reason that you receive 10 credit card offers in the mail and you are 150 grand in debt (including your mortgage). Once there will be another depression and the jobs will fall and the banks will grab hold of the assets... you will beg for world government to step in. You really don't know yourself unless you have been through this. And I doubt many of you are ready. So how do you get ready?

1) Clean up your mind. Realize that people who rule this world will never want to be seen, and they will not be seen. They will always create 10 alternatieves and point you in 10 different directions. It is not important to know "Who" and "Where", but it's more important to know "How" and when. So NO, it's not "Jews" it's NOT American Governemnt, it's not IMF, World Bank, Rockofellers, Roschilds. Those are the means to an end, but those are being controlled by somebody much more sinister.

2) Understand that the only way that we are all controlled right now is one thing and one thing only ... and it is "MONEY". From cradle to grave we are shoving and being shoved this non-existing construct. Money is the Matrix and Matrix is the money. The movie Matrix is all about how the monetary system of the world works. Unlearn money... and erase the word from your vocabulary. It is bulshit! I know you realize that it is bulshit, but I don't think you realize how hooked you are by the concept. It is so deeply embedded into us that any alternative seems absurd. But think about it. Why? Why do we need it? It is the one most desired thing in the whole world, but in itself it worth nothing! It does not matter in what form it is... paper, silver or gold. Gold and silver are just shiny metals. If you are stranded in the middle of the desert these are worthless. It even got worse. Now we believe in credit and debit. Which are nothing! Those people really make it clear and we still think it's fine.

Any society that has its economic system based on concept of money is doomed to social injustice, division of classes and eventually a class of rullers with the most money and class of slaves with the least amount of it. What is it that makes you obey your employer's demands? It's money. What is it that makes you obey your government? Concept of money. What starts and stops and wins or looses wars? Money... What makes you you think that you deserve something that other people should not have.... it's the amount of money in your wallet/bank account/stocks. If you are born into the family with no money... you are concidered a piece of shit. If you are born into family with money, you are automatically elevated to the position of the bellybutton of the universe.

So the eventual goal for us, or as we are told, is to make our money work for us while we sit and do nothing (Captain subtext: make other people slave in order to use the money we have). So the goal is to rule other people. If you examine yourself deeply, I think you will come to conclusion that we subcuntiously believe it. We were made to believe that rulling people is an ok concept. It is good to rule people. We want to rule other people through money, and this is our programmed purpose in life. So unless you can see it for what it is... a pure bulshit... this world will not change. And I doubt it will change. I have my reasons to believe so.

So, some of you may ask "WTF? How else are we suppose to get stuff we don't have?". Well, think about it. If you go and work 60 hours per week and you get nothing... just a though that you believe in... a piece of paper. Then you go and exchange that nothing for something because somebody else out there believes that nothing worth more than something (no pun intented :)... Then what makes you think that it would not be perfectly fine to eliminate that "nothing" all together and do things for nothing just as it already is? Then you can eliminate the government all together. You can get rid of the borders (borders are imaginary lines that people are fighting over) and let people really be free and productive. Of course this will not happen unless a certain change of mindet will happen first. And that mindset that has to be changed is a belief that one person somehow is more important than another. In fact, this will not happen unless people will esteem others more important than themselves. Until that happens... there will always be a rulling class and a slave class.

Realize that very soon all of your toys will be ussless. If I'm not mistaken, there will be a worldwide depression that will make you miss the shit that you are used to so much that you will yourself propose the world govenment just to get it back ( just like Cypher in Matrix). So good starting point would be realizing that all that shit you have ... 90% of it you don't need. No , you don't need a car, you don't need TV, and you don't need 50 pairs of shoes in your closet. The thing that you need the most is knowledge. Most of the knowledge that exists today revolves around the concept of "making money". Forget it! It's useless. I went through business school and halfway thorugh I realized that it was the biggest bulshit in the world being fed to me on a silver spoon... money for the sake of making money. Growth for the sake of growth.... do you know what it is called in medical field? Cancer! :)

3) PAY OFF YOUR DEBTS, CUT UP CREDIT CARDS. Quit the money game. If you can't physically do it, then start over. Move to a different country... change your name :) use your imagination. Learn how to live on bare minimum. Store up some food at least enough for a year. People may laugh at you... but you are the one that will hear "told you so". I know it sounds idealistic and inconvenient right now, but it will be much more inconvenient later on. It is easily doable if you are single. If you have family and children... it's much harder, it's one of the hooks used unfortunatly.

4) Learn to respect other people for who these are. Instead of going out and watching a useless movie... go out and buy somebody a loaf of bread and some milk... somebody who needs it. Tell them that they are important and that they don't have to believe the bullshit. Share what you've learned and they will listen to you... because you care ( unlike Mormons/JW/Christians knocking on their door).

5) When the economic shit hits the fan... get out of the city. It will be ugly.


Well... I went on for too long. Hope you find my rant interesting.

levitas
02-07-2007, 04:18 AM
Fccool I really liked your post. I've never thought of another level of illusion. Like that we're suppose to think that 9/11 was the government, and that we're fed these clues on purpose. (that's what you mean right) But I do think your points are kind of idealistic... I still don't understand what I should do to get ready for the next depression and the collapse of contemporary government. Elaborate if you can. Thanks a lot, and once again, great post!:D

hapax
02-07-2007, 05:15 PM
december: If you read Russian then I can give you the info about the Gulag camps in the USSR with the names of people who were the heads of these camps.

ALL of them were Jews.

Sure. I can read enough Russian to figure out the names of these criminals. Strange how these Jewish mass-murderers are not household names, unlike Eichmann et al. even though they killed far more people. Guess some people are more "equal" than others.

I would add that the funding for the creation of the USSR came from their fellow Jews in the USA, with the support of the US Government and several presidents. This can be confirmed by reading:

1. Myron Fagan's The Illuminati and the Council of Foreign Relations (http://usa-the-republic.com/illuminati/fagan_index.html);
2.Anthony Suttons'Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution (http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/).

fccool, Money by itself is nothing. It's what those who have it use it for that counts. And it's no accident that all the bankers, to this day, are Jews. Judaism is the religion of usury (Christianity forbids this - remember Jesus throwing the moneylenders out of the temple?). In any system where group A practices usury and group B doesn't, inevitably all the money will end up in the hands of group A. Therefore all the power will also be bought up by group A. The fact that our group A are mainly Khazar Jews doesn't make them any less Jewish. That's what they are, whether anyone likes it or not. "Controlled by something far more sinister"? that makes them sound blameless ("who us? we're just innocent Jewish bankers controlled by sinister forces....don't hurt us") when in fact they're all Satanists in league with the Devil himself, and they are the prime movers of this massive international conspiracy against decent people. They're the ones with the money to do it. And Israel is their "home". What happens to the rest of the planet doesn't concern them one bit. If the USA lies in ruins, they can just move to Israel. Christians, Buddhists etc. don't have that option.

And getting out of the city won't help in the long run. There's times when standing one's ground and putting up a fight is all that's left. We can't sit back and let them wreck this world. It's all we've got.

Myron Fagan said this about the creation of the Soviet Union:

"So even before the outbreak of World War I; the conspirators had a plan, in the making, to carry-out Nathan Rothschild's vow of 1814 to destroy the Czar and also murder all possible royal heirs to the throne and it would have to be done before the close of the war. The Russian Bolsheviks were to be their instruments in this particular plot. From the turn of the century; the chiefs of the Bolsheviks were Nicolai Lenin, Leon Trotsky, and later Joseph Stalin. Of course, those were not their true family names. Prior to the outbreak; Switzerland became their haven. Trotsky's headquarters was on the lower East Side in New York; largely the habitat of Russian-Jewish refugees. Both Lenin and Trotsky were similarly bewhiskered and unkempt. In those days that was the badge of Bolshevism. Both lived well yet neither had a regular occupation. Neither had any visible means of support, yet both always had plenty of money. All those mysteries were solved in 1917. Right from the outset of the war; strange and mysterious goings-on were taking place in New York. Night after night; Trotsky darted furtively in and out of Jacob Schiff's palace-mansion and in the dead of those same nights there were a gathering of hoodlums of New York's lower East Side. All of them Russian refugees at Trotsky's headquarters and all were going through some mysterious sort of training-process that was all shrouded in mystery. Nobody talked; although it did leak out that Schiff was financing all of Trotsky's activities...."Then suddenly Trotsky vanished and so did approximately 300 of his trained hoodlums. Actually they were on the high seas in a Schiff-chartered ship bound for a rendezvous with Lenin and his gang in Switzerland. And also on that ship was $20,000,000 in gold; the $20,000,000 was provided to finance the Bolsheviks takeover of Russia. In anticipation of Trotsky's arrival; Lenin prepared to throw a party in his Switzerland hideaway. Men of the very highest places in the world were to be guests at that party. Among them were the mysterious Colonel Edward Mandell House, Woodrow Wilson's mentor and palsy-walsy, and more important; Schiff's special and confidential messenger. Another of the expected guests was Warburg of the Warburg Banking Clan in Germany, who was financing the Kaiser and whom the Kaiser had rewarded by making him chief of the Secret Police of Germany. In addition; there were the Rothschilds of London and Paris also Lithenoth, Kaganovich, and Stalin (who was then the head of a train and bank robbing gang of bandits). He was known as the "Jesse James of the Urals." And here I must remind you that England and France were then long in the war with Germany and that on February 3, 1917; Wilson had broken off all diplomatic relations with Germany. Therefore; Warburg, Colonel House, the Rothschilds, and all those others were enemies but of course; Switzerland was neutral ground where enemies could meet and be friends and especially if they had some scheme in common. That Lenin party was very nearly wrecked by an unforeseen incident. The Schiff-chartered ship on its way to Switzerland was intercepted and taken into custody by a British warship. But Schiff quickly rushed orders to Wilson to order the British to release the ship intact with Trotsky's hoodlums and the gold. Wilson obeyed. He warned the British that if they refused to release the ship; the United States would not enter the war in April as he had faithfully promised a year earlier. The British heeded the warning. Trotsky arrived in Switzerland and the Lenin party went off as scheduled; but they still faced what ordinarily would have been the insurmountable obstacle of getting the Lenin-Trotsky band of terrorists across the border into Russia. Well; that's where Brother Warburg, chief of the German Secret Police, came in. He loaded all those thugs into sealed freight-cars and made all the necessary arrangements for their secret entry into Russia. The rest is history."

fccool
03-07-2007, 08:01 AM
Levitas,

These are idealistic. I have no delusions about it :). I don't think that there will be a world without money, unless we would be whiped out and have to start over again. It's too embedded into minds of people that it's impossible to do otherwise. My purpose to all of this is to show you that we don't need it... Money is the way this whole artificial world being controlled.

You have correctly got my point. The clues have been left behind are not just flukes. There are too many of them. I don't care how brainwashed people are, you simply can not somehow think that it was airplaine went down in shanksville. The pentagon is a joke. Jeorge W sitting in classroom reading and then saying that he saw the first plane crashing. The dancing Israel agents on the roof. If they are so secret, they could have celebrated elsewhere. Bombs somehow "misfired" before the planned control demolition. Why trigger bombs early when you can do it all at the same time.
If they really wanted it done clean, then they would hijacked a plane flying from (or to) Washington, and one plane flying from (or to) NYC and would have done it quickly without any time delay. They could have crashed a big ass AA replica into pentagon and Downed a real plane in Shanksville. But they did not. They WOULD NOT HAVE PULLED WTC7. They would have just destoyed the documents they needed to destroy by fire. They would not tell you about 3 TRILLION BUCK missing from pentagon (especially Rummie) I can go on and on. Everything is a layer upon layer upon layer of deceit. People who thing they control are actually being controlled too :). And the people who are pulling everything off, well what can I say... they are brilliant. Maybe to brilliant to be human beings. I don't know.

So about preparing :

#1) Educate yourself. Just on one weekend sit down alone for a couple of hours and think. Think about how this world really works. Why do you do certain things and do those things have meaningful purpose?
For example. Why do people fanatisize sports? I'm living in US and the more I see into it the more I'm shocked how stupid it is. People spend 3 hours of the 4 hours of free time they have a day ( 8 hours work (sometimes more), 1++ hours drive, 3 hours clean, dress and eat, 8 hours sleep, 4 hours free ) We are so out of time, that the only time we have to think and educate ourselved we spend not thinking. Watching sports is probably the most brainless and most useless activity you can do. This is coming from an ex captain of Ukrainian Junior National Basketball team and eventually Florida HS state title holder, and a successfull college Basketball player. Sometimes it made me sick how much people envolve themselves watching this BS. Nevertheless you may disagree. But I hope you get the point. Just consider... how are you spending your life? What are you planning to accomplish? Why? If you achieved your goal... then what's next? Look for any prejudices you have. (You would be surprised) Ask yourself how you got to have these.

#2) Learn to do something usefull outside of realm of money. It's not idealistic and it's not too much to hope for. The only reason some people got out on the top of Soviet Union collaple is because they undersood how to conduct business Western way. They have done it before. Now think how would you conduct business if all of your savings in the bank momentarily hyperdeflate? I'm talking about 1:10,000 overnight hyperdeflate. You think it is impossible :) ask people from former Soviet Union block. Overnight my parents could buy a about 10 loaves of bread with all of their life favings. I'm not trying to BS or scare anybody. That's just the way things are. The real value of $1 is about 5 cents. So calculate how much you have in savings. That CAN happen overnight.

People who are in control of the economy will not let it to slide down, they want it to drop, and drop rapidly. Before we get into it you have to understand how today's economy works. I know it will make this answer a bit longer, but it will worth it. I promice. I don't think most of the people have true understanding of today's economy. Buckle up your seatbelts...

Here's a big picture to begin with. The economic "experts" of Wall Street scream their heads out how great things are, which stocks to invest in and that everything is growing. They throw up the meaningless statistics to back their assumptions. What they don't tell you are the following. Japan, the world’s biggest banking system, has an estimated US$1.5 trillion of non-performing loans (meaning bancrupt). America, the world’s biggest economy, has an estimated US$28.5 trillion in off-the-balance-sheet liabilities - so called derivatives, and total of 60++ TRILLION dollars of total debt including those derivatives . Russia declared a default on all its foreign debt, which looks like a US$150 billion loss from derivatives alone. Brazil, the biggest emerging market economy, having lost almost US$40 billion from its reserves in August and September, has asked the IMF for a US$50 billion loan. Brazil’s buying power is essential for America’s growth-based economy. All of this simply means that the world is broke.
So why does everything looks so flowery on the surface? Why are people not spending their salaries on food for the next couple years? Here's why. Gold originally was valuable because of it's consumption as jewlery. Now it's valueable because of its consumption in microchips ... and jewlery :). So as money, gold can be consumed as an end product and be valuable. Before arrival of paper money, you would be exchanging something of value for something of value. Today, the only way you can consume paper money is either to burn to keep warm, or to use it as a toilet paper when you are out of it. So we can't consume paper money, therefore they are absolutely worthless. It gets worse. Most of the money in the world are not paper. They are digits in banks balanced out by paper checks passed around. Countries do not trade in paper... they trade in digits.
So how much money is there? There's something that Federal Reserve stopped publishing a year ago called M3. M3 basically is the total non-bank owned amount of money in circulating in the economy. For those interested in the statistical supply of money rising... you can check out M3 column in following document. http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/HIST/h6hista.pdf

As you can see, the amount of US dollars just hit 10.2 trillion before Fed said that they are not going to publish it anymore? Why did they say they are not going to publish it? I'll get to that later :). Gotta hook you somehow.

Back to gold money. Because of it "locked" nature, the only way you can get more money into the economy is to mine more gold (or ravage other nation that has it). So if you are an industrialist who plans to overproduce products... you are only damaging yourself. You have to lower the prices to cell your products because there are more products than money that people have. Pretty common sence. Somebody comes along and says : " I can make you rich beyong your dreams. We will give enough money to people to pay for the products they can not afford now, but in exchange you will have to deposit it back to us." Government was the same story. Could not expand because money was locked in gold. They banks came along and promiced to give enough money in exchange for interest payments in form of taxes. So you see, the system was built in such a way that the money would be always going back to where these originated. If these would not, then people would have more money on hand than products and rapid inflation of products occurs. So two things have to happen. More products have to be created to keep the prices down, and less money to be circulating to achieve the same thing. People have to buy these products in order to perpetuate the cycle. So the economy has to constantly grow, as people have to constantly buy and the products has to be constantly produced. The moment people stop buying, the inflation of money makes products more costly. The moment producers stop producing, the scarcity of the products makes them more costly. So what you have here is a loose/loose situation in which corporations and governments will do everything imaginable to keep the system going. They will brainwash you through the multimillion dollar ads. They will start wars to increase government consumption. They will create unlimited credit and drive you into debt just to perpetually cover up the intrinsically flawed system. Which bring me to another point. 9-11 and Iraq. Why?
If not for 9-11 and Iraq, the US economy would begin slowly turning downwards to its rapid fall. One of the reasons people still to this day accept a peice of paper we call dollar is OIL. Majority of Oil today is being traded in dollars. Powers that be set it up that way to make sure that it was so. Saudis agreed to buy up part of US debt in return for steady trade of Oil in US dollars... which made them extremely rich countries... because they now had dollars to spend to buy whatever they wanted. The only two that disagreed were Iraq, and Iran. Iranian government was then shortly overthrown by CIA coup. Iraq was subsiquently bombed and sunctioned and then bombed again before they could even switch to trading in other currencies. It seems like Iran is again being provoked by some unseen forces to threaten dollar domination. So you see, government was led to believe that if 9-11 would not happen then US would deteriorate rapidly. 9-11 was directed by "government patriots" while the forces bihind the scenes provided the plans and left orgy of clues all over the place so people can figure it out later.
So why did Fed stop publishing M3? You see, if you open up any debt stats site... you will see that total US debt is 48 trillion dollars! The total amount of all accounts and money circulating is according to M3 = 10.2 trillion. I might be wrong, but make your own conclusions.
Here's another question of the Century: Why would one of the most broke countries in the world provide the most in "subcidies" to the third world? The answer once again goes back to spending and artificially maintaining the floating dollar. The M3 has to be artificially kept down for this economy to operate. If money supply would continue to rise rapidly, then somebody crazy economist would blow the wistle and people would panic.

So where does it all lead? IMO whatever the people behind the scenes are planning will be something of Apocalyptic proportion. It will be 10 things happening at once. These might be, but not limited to: World wide economic collapse, world pandemic of newly discovered virus, several "terrorist" attacks of enormous proportions, mass starvation on global scale. Even if you are not a religious person... you will likely to seek "divine" help. They will provide it for you. At this point I'm only speculating, but it seems like this is what it is all going to.

SO :) There's no reall way to oppose this, except for creating a community of people that you can rely on. If you don't have food stored up... make it a priority (especially if you have family). It does not have to be a 5 year supply. Something that will last you at least for 4-5 months. I know it sounds paranoid, but you will thank yourself later. Money in the bank is the most unsecure way to store wealth. Even gold is worthless because the remains of it will be devalued and bought off cheaply when shit hits the fan. It's been done before many times. So invest money in something that is more worthwile and priceless than that -- invest it in people. If you help people now, they will help you later. Develop communities. I know it sounds idealistic, but is it really?

Nevertheless... I went on for too long. Hope you find the information helpful.

levitas
04-07-2007, 09:37 AM
Thanks Fccool,
Good information. I have a question though. You know how you're saying that the government or whoever has provided the clues on purpose... why? I dont understand why they would do that? And also, do you think it would be smart to invest in euros or another currency? Or are you saying the whole world will fall into a depression and then "Jesus" will reappear?

I dunno what else to say... the thought of this happening is frightening. But I agree that it probably will. Whatever does happen, lets hope that the world changes for the better. 2012 huh.

And in regards about Jews and especially Hazards, do you guys think they're human? I mean, sure the (whats the term safardi) jews from the south are probably innocent, and as I am aware of, are second class citizens in Israel, but what about the European Jews? And how did they accomplish taking over the banks while being procecuted by virtualy every country, especially Russia? Russia destroyed Hazardia (or what every it's called) right? And does anyone have any more info on Hazards, the net doesnt have very much.

:)Peace, Love & Strength,:)
Levitas

zircon
04-07-2007, 10:59 PM
Thanks for these posts - Leuchter's findings are around 18 years old now (I've read the full report he wrote, it's worth the effort - and still highly controversial of course - the rense article is around 4 years old - but if we have open minds and are prepared to analyse the facts, there's nothing that we can't know and undrstand. Thanks for the info from Myron fagan - hadn't heard of him but that look interesting.

revolutionary_jam
31-07-2007, 12:30 PM
as far as I know Trotsky was a jew and Stalin used that to promote anti-semitism (divide and conquer) in Russia

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