Talk by Naomi Wolf - The End of America

[tusme]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

[zero1]

Seen that before, she's awesome! :cool:

[lupus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI

The sequel :)

[endlessvista]

You would be mad, absolutely fucking insane to take anything this phoney says. She is state sanctioned dissent like Moore. She is not on our side, not by a long shot.

[lupus]

what makes you say that?

[endlessvista]

She is a professional. Looks for the counterculture and then hooks herself to it. She has bounced around everything at this stage. She wrote a book called No Logo a while back warning folks not to wearing labels as it was buying into globalisaiton. Does not stop her from picking her gear from top designers and attending heroin-chic fashion shows. When global warming scam was taking off she connected herself to Gore. I mean, seriously, she is so untrustworthy and transparent people should be very careful with this wagon.

[zero1]

You would be mad, absolutely fucking insane to take anything this phoney says. She is state sanctioned dissent like Moore. She is not on our side, not by a long shot.

How do you know?

I don't agree, certainly not with the Michael Moore comparison..! I like Wolf, she's got balls.

I do hope she's on our side, we could use someone with the political astuteness and guile she has. :)

[lupus]

Naomi Klein wrote NO Logo

[zero1]

Naomi Klein wrote NO Logo

Endlessvista might be confusing Naomi Klein (Jewish feminist author) with Naomi Wolf (Jewish feminist author)..? :D But they are different people, indeed.

[endlessvista]

Naomi Klein wrote NO Logo

Feck! You are right - they are both the same flies on the NWO dogshit pretending to be counterculture.

They are there to destroy you, not validate you. Like Michael Moore.

[lupus]

my only problem with Wolf is she just wants to arrest the gangsters shafting us - believes in due process and rule of law or some dodgy stuff like that

[endlessvista]

my only problem with Wolf is she just wants to arrest the gangsters shafting us - believes in due process and rule of law or some dodgy stuff like that

Not really. It's all talk put out there to make the angry folks think we have a voice.

That's the replacement they have for Icke. "He's a nut, she isn;t" and so you no longer need to be angry. Naomi is looking out for you...:rolleyes:

[lupus]

have you even listened to her or just slandering her without listening to her - its been said elsewhere condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance: something you are showing in spades:D

[endlessvista]

have you even listened to her or just slandering her without listening to her - its been said elsewhere condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance: something you are showing in spades:D


I can go one better. I actually saw her speak and met her afterwards. Hence my suspicion. NYU 1998.

[zero1]

Naomi Wolf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf) and Naomi Klein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Klein) are top intellectuals, both Jewish feminists, both anti-establisment and watchful and wary of the Corporatocracy and elites. Clink links for bios.

They deserve respect, or at least investigation before condemnation.

In any case, Naomi Wolf has spoken the truth, and as she would insist herself the Message is what's important, not the messenger.

[lupus]

reading the biog now i'm suspicious of Wolf: Rhodes scholar, David has talked about them; feminist: Aaron Russo said that one of the illuminati told him they funded feminism in the 60s, so she could well be tainted by them and a gatekeeper

[endlessvista]

reading the biog now i'm suspicious of Wolf: Rhodes scholar, David has talked about them; feminist: Aaron Russo said that one of the illuminati told him they funded feminism in the 60s, so she could well be tainted by them and a gatekeeper

Keep researching - gets even more smelly.

[tyler]

Wolf is just another Khazar gatekeeper like Amy Goodman.

The latest news about her is that she is urging people to vote for Obama, the Soros candidate.

[bendoon]

She says vote for Obama, need you know more ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/why-barack-obama-got-my-v_b_89017.html

[hw spartan]

She is a professional. Looks for the counterculture and then hooks herself to it. She has bounced around everything at this stage. She wrote a book called No Logo a while back warning folks not to wearing labels as it was buying into globalisaiton. Does not stop her from picking her gear from top designers and attending heroin-chic fashion shows. When global warming scam was taking off she connected herself to Gore. I mean, seriously, she is so untrustworthy and transparent people should be very careful with this wagon.
very true

How do you know?

I don't agree, certainly not with the Michael Moore comparison..! I like Wolf, she's got balls.

I do hope she's on our side, we could use someone with the political astuteness and guile she has. :)
haha
quote "Does not stop her from picking her gear from top designers and attending heroin-chic fashion shows"
need more say:rolleyes:

have you even listened to her or just slandering her without listening to her - its been said elsewhere condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance: something you are showing in spades:D
haha
quote "Does not stop her from picking her gear from top designers and attending heroin-chic fashion shows"
need more say:rolleyes:

She says vote for Obama, need you know more ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/why-barack-obama-got-my-v_b_89017.html
haha does she...she really smells
hahaha:eek:

[hw spartan]

Naomi Wolf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf) and Naomi Klein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Klein) are top intellectuals, both Jewish feminists, both anti-establisment and watchful and wary of the Corporatocracy and elites. .

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[freedomlover1966]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

Thanks for posting this video. As with almost everyone, I don't take everything Naomi has to say with 100 % agreement, however; Naomi is providing a "wake up call" to many Americans that are not part of David's audience or the audience of guys like Alex Jones or Art Bell.

For the above reason alone, I am glad this video is making it's rounds and would suggest watching it (especially those that live in America).

Cheers !!

[endlessvista]

Naomi is providing a "wake up call" to many Americans that are not part of David's audience or the audience of guys like Alex Jones or Art Bell.


Nope she is moving them away. She has been put in there to make the trendy middle class "radicals" in the USA and other countries think "hey, so there is someone fighting the systems mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!" before they go on ebay and buy Yak Herders caps and Greatful Dead CDs.

Meanwhile nothing changes, but gosh isn't she great being on our side dudeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesss.

She is one of Micheal Moore's fat lumps, cut off shaved and put in a Gucci desiger outfit. She was very cute when I saw her face to face and it dawned on me she was just a "Honey Trap" - she is state-sactioned version of FOX News info babe.

[endlessvista]

Naomi is providing a "wake up call" to many Americans


Nope, she is moving them away and back to the cage of liberalism of New York Times and CNN and making sure they stay there and go no further.

She has been put in there to make the trendy middle class "radicals" in the USA and other countries think "hey, so there is someone fighting the system mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!" before they go on ebay and buy Yak Herders caps and Greatful Dead CDs and smugly drive their hybrid cars with the 'Your Carbon = My Death' bumper stickers.

Meanwhile nothing changes, but gosh isn't she great being on our side dudeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesss.

She is one of Micheal Moore's fat lumps, cut off shaved and put in a Gucci desiger outfit. She was very cute when I saw her face to face and it dawned on me she was just a "Honey Trap" - she is state-sactioned radical version of FOX News info babe.

[truthseeker49]

All I'm going to say is what she is saying makes sense to me ! :eek:

[twistedconcept]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dyLSstqMvH8

She got this interview banned in the states. She comes across as a bit of fool to me, but I most certainly would.

[true]

In the one video posted, she states that Bush changed the oath of enlistment from "constitution first", to "mission first, president second, constitution third". I haven't been able to verify that this actually happened. Has anybody seen or heard anything about Bush changing the oath of enlistment?

To me, that is very important to check into since it makes everything pretty clear. If that is a fact, it's pretty obvious what is happening and I need to get the hell out of here 2 years ago. If not, she is full of it and possibly a govt plant.

Does anybody know any recent enlistees that could verify this?

[zero1]

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:confused:

:rolleyes: What are you confused about, Spartan? Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein are different people, was the point...

[tintin]

You cannot take Naomi Wolf serious.
She is like NOAM CHOMSKY.

Sounds all very reasonable.
But she was catapulted into STARDOM at a young age.
Why would that be?

Involved in Clinton's reelection. Involved with AL GORE.
Dangerous girl. Those half truthers are always the most dangerous.

At least with CROOKS you know they are crooks.

(Had these this discussions with CHOMSKY worshippers before.
Difficult to argue with them. They are in AWE of the great CHOMSKY....)

[twistedconcept]

You cannot take Naomi Wolf serious.
She is like NOAM CHOMSKY.

Sounds all very reasonable.
But she was catapulted into STARDOM at a young age.
Why would that be?

Involved in Clinton's reelection. Involved with AL GORE.
Dangerous girl. Those half truthers are always the most dangerous.

At least with CROOKS you know they are crooks.

(Had these this discussions with CHOMSKY worshippers before.
Difficult to argue with them. They are in AWE of the great CHOMSKY....)

I don't know much about Chomsky, other than the fact that he completely dismisses a 9/11 conspiracy. Is he the American version of George Galloway?

[lupus]

Chomsky says the conspiracy is largely irrelevant because there are more easily proven crimes that ptb are definately guilty of

[twistedconcept]

Chomsky says the conspiracy is largely irrelevant because there are more easily proven crimes that ptb are definately guilty of

He must be a moron then.

He finds it irrelevant that thousands of innocent people died?

[tintin]

I don't know much about Chomsky, other than the fact that he completely dismisses a 9/11 conspiracy. Is he the American version of George Galloway?

http://www.tehrantimes.com/News/10334/01_CHOMSKY.jpg

Chomsky is a left wing superstar professor in linguistics.
Has an opinion on everything.
Yes, 911 is quite a good test for guys like him.

If you lie about that then what is left of your credibility?

I wouldn't compare him to Galloway.
Galloway is more of a street fighter and Chomsky
is the "sophisticated" one.

Galloway? Can have some sympathy for the guy
like when he was confronting american senators.
But in the end he is also not to be trusted.
(but he is some fun once in a while)

He says it is IRRELEVANT.
Huh? People are still discussing the attack.
Hundreds of thousands are dead because if the IRRELEVANT act.

If he thinks it is IRRELEVANT then he is STUPID
which makes him IRRELEVANT as well.

[amethyst]

http://www.tehrantimes.com/News/10334/01_CHOMSKY.jpg

Chomsky is a left wing superstar professor in linguistics.
Has an opinion on everything.
Yes, 911 is quite a good test for guys like him.

If you lie about that then what is left of your credibility?

I wouldn't compare him to Galloway.
Galloway is more of a street fighter and Chomsky
is the "sophisticated" one.

Galloway? Can have some sympathy for the guy
like when he was confronting american senators.
But in the end he is also not to be trusted.
(but he is some fun once in a while)

He says it is IRRELEVANT.
Huh? People are still discussing the attack.
Hundreds of thousands are dead because if the IRRELEVANT act.

If he thinks it is IRRELEVANT then he is STUPID
which makes him IRRELEVANT as well.

He says it is IRRELEVANT.
Huh? People are still discussing the attack.
Hundreds of thousands are dead because if the IRRELEVANT act.

Very good point.

Show how casually he cares about human life :rolleyes:

[endlessvista]

I don't know much about Chomsky, other than the fact that he completely dismisses a 9/11 conspiracy. Is he the American version of George Galloway?

Apart from the fact that he supported the genocide of 1.5 million Cambodians by the Khmer Rouge, he fights for social justice and only the mention of his name has lefties and trade unions bursting their y-fronts with sperm...:rolleyes:

[john white]

In the one video posted, she states that Bush changed the oath of enlistment from "constitution first", to "mission first, president second, constitution third". I haven't been able to verify that this actually happened. Has anybody seen or heard anything about Bush changing the oath of enlistment?

To me, that is very important to check into since it makes everything pretty clear. If that is a fact, it's pretty obvious what is happening and I need to get the hell out of here 2 years ago. If not, she is full of it and possibly a govt plant.

Does anybody know any recent enlistees that could verify this?

She's referring to the "soldiers creed", also known as the "warriors creed"

And LOL no I'm not an enlistee

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrior_Ethos

The current version of the Soldier's Creed is a product of the "Warrior Ethos" program authorized by Army Chief of Staff Eric K. Shinseki in May 2003[1]. It was first presented to senior Army leaders on June 7, 2003[2].The Soldiers Creed was approved in its current format by the Army Chief of Staff Peter Schoomaker on the 24th of November of 2003. The introduction of the Soldiers Creed kicked off a campaign known as Task Force Soldier. This was a commitment by senior leadership to the soldiers of the Army. Task Force Soldier is a leadership commitment to soldiers ensuring that they are prepared for combat and embody the Warrior Ethos that is contained in the Soldiers Creed[3]. It seems to have been discussed in Congress in a "Hearing on Army Issues" held by Senator John W. Warner on or about November 19, 2003.[citation needed] It was first published in the magazine Infantry on December 22, 2003.

I am an American Soldier.
I am a Warrior and a member of a team. I serve the people of the United States, and live the Army Values.
I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.
I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills.
I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy, the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.
I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American Soldier.

Some soldiers shout "hooah" at the conclusion of the Soldier's Creed, but it is not included in the creed itself.

The U.S. Army Warrior Ethos is a set of standards that all U.S. Army soldiers are encouraged to live by. It is meant to be the core embodiment of the soldier's mission. It has been incorporated into the Soldier's Creed and is italicized in the text above.

[hw spartan]

:rolleyes: What are you confused about, Spartan? Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein are different people, was the point...

thats why im confused

hahaha
duh

hahahaha:D