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Unvailed as a way of punishing those who cannot afford there rent will receive a Rent-Dodger Sign post on the side of there accommodation!
For everyone to see this may not even be legal iam unsure but the fact remains confidentiality the basic of everyones Human Rights may be slowly destroyed.
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/10/07/defaulting-tenants-to-be-shamed-as-rent-dodgers-64375-21978680/2/
How will parents explain to there children what the Sign means ?
Property owners bump up the rent and its the familys that suffer buy to rent should be regulated somehow.
mikethepunk
07-10-2008, 06:56 PM
Thanks for the link.
This is just sick.
This world is lacking compassion and that is one of its BIGGEST problems.
Rent dodgers do live there....
Unvailed as a way of punishing those who cannot afford there rent will receive a Rent-Dodger Sign post on the side of there accommodation!
For everyone to see this may not even be legal iam unsure but the fact remains confidentiality the basic of everyones Human Rights may be slowly destroyed.
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/10/07/defaulting-tenants-to-be-shamed-as-rent-dodgers-64375-21978680/2/
How will parents explain to there children what the Sign means ?
Property owners bump up the rent and its the familys that suffer buy to rent should be regulated somehow.
"There is no such thing as a free lunch"
Maybe if they taught this to there kids there kids wouldnt grow up to face the same problem
It is regulated by the market. If the rent is too high no one will live there, if someone is prepared to pay it they should be allowed to, not blocked by someone who wants to live there and not pay.
mikey mikey
07-10-2008, 07:10 PM
Rent dodgers do live there....
How about extending this?
To banks and financial institutions that receive bail-outs?
How about extending this?
To banks and financial institutions that receive bail-outs?
Fuck yes, if you hold the ladder Ill screw in the sign.
armoured_amazon
07-10-2008, 07:24 PM
That is the equivalent of putting someone in the stocks and it is very cruel. I imagine people will tear them down anyway and quite rightly so.
That is the equivalent of putting someone in the stocks and it is very cruel. I imagine people will tear them down anyway and quite rightly so.
More cruel than stealing or defruading?
Crime and punishment.
danster82
07-10-2008, 07:35 PM
Well thats a private landlord whos put that sign up, fuck him tbh just tear it down.
I also see it as a return of karma for landlords they saw an opportunity to profit from another human being and essentially make something from nothing the same way investors do and that is simply out of alignment with the universe in my opinion and so the return for them now is a whole lot of trouble with tenants not being able to pay rent and property prices collapsing a lesson well deserved.
signalnorth
07-10-2008, 07:55 PM
More cruel than stealing or defruading?
Crime and punishment.
As bad as
Let hope it backfires and the tennants can Sue the Landlords if only to protect there Human rights.There aim is to bully the familys that have been paying off there Landlords mortgage for them ! Only to have missed a payment or too and are left to face total social embarrassment which may even lead to harassment.
Anyone faced with this problem Should seek a lawyer or a solictor at once this is one fight that CAN be won in a court of law.
LOL, get your own morgage then if you are such a bed wetter about paying somoene elses.
Who "forced" you to rent?
rhydra
07-10-2008, 08:33 PM
Those who would most likely to be affected are the ones who genuinely can't pay and would be ashamed at being unable to pay anyway.
There will be the others who will see the sign as a status symbol much the same as those who revel in having asbos and tags.
Either way it's not really the right approach.
you seem to be under the impression i have this problem when i do not iam warning everyone of what is happening making people aware. and as for your comments about the children and there perants you must understand that the kids could face bullying and aggression shown toward them for reason that are unjustified the children have done nothing but be born into this world and cannot be judged by the parents actions.
duckingdafta
07-10-2008, 08:36 PM
wait while they start taking houses off these mortgage debtors... only then will you see any support from greedy fatcats as they wake up to reality as they are the ones panicking they can't survive
wait while they start taking houses off these mortgage debtors... only then will you see any support from greedy fatcats as they wake up to reality as they are the ones panicking they can't survive
You are almost right, if you can't afford the rent, move out. If the rent is too high, then no one will rent it and the person who overpaid for the house and can't cover the morgage gets it re possesed and looses all the money they put in so far.
That is the Karmic justice of free markets.
duckingdafta
07-10-2008, 08:53 PM
You are almost right, if you can't afford the rent, move out. If the rent is too high, then no one will rent it and the person who overpaid for the house and can't cover the mortgage gets it re possessed and loses all the money they put in so far.
That is the Karmic justice of free markets.
when I was made redundant I blew all my savings on our car as it was on 4yr finance and we wanted rid of that... it did skint us paying it off, but at least we own the car.... it was about this time I decided to become as self sufficient as possible. At the end of the day whatever UK laws are used, human rights laws do say you have a right to shelter. I can never understand why greedy banks don't rent these houses to the people in trouble if they have to repossess at least they're not forcing people into desperate measures then.
I mention this as I've just watched a women who had over £200,000 in Icesave and fears she is going to lose her house as she can only apply for up to £50,000 of it. Why don't people like this pay off their mortgage rather than keep loads stashed away...
all the bigwigs are hiding and giving our written statements for just before tomorrows markets... sounds dodgy to me, people want to know now.
when I was made redundant I blew all my savings on our car as it was on 4yr finance and we wanted rid of that... it did skint us paying it off, but at least we own the car.... it was about this time I decided to become as self sufficient as possible. At the end of the day whatever UK laws are used, human rights laws do say you have a right to shelter. I can never understand why greedy banks don't rent these houses to the people in trouble if they have to repossess at least they're not forcing people into desperate measures then.
I mention this as I've just watched a women who had over £200,000 in Icesave and fears she is going to lose her house as she can only apply for up to £50,000 of it. Why don't people like this pay off their mortgage rather than keep loads stashed away...
all the bigwigs are hiding and giving our written statements for just before tomorrows markets... sounds dodgy to me, people want to know now.
That woman needs a "Face 5", it's like a "high 5" but applied to the face.
Heres the link to the BBC News annoucement !
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7657028.stm
The guys smug face says it all.
anyone else think this is out of order?
Poor guy, he has been defrauded, still at least hes putting on a brave smile.
brighteyes
07-10-2008, 09:06 PM
You are almost right, if you can't afford the rent, move out. If the rent is too high, then no one will rent it and the person who overpaid for the house and can't cover the morgage gets it re possesed and looses all the money they put in so far.
That is the Karmic justice of free markets.
Where to?
I have personal experience of a shite landlord who served notice on me cause my rent was 3 weeks late. The Reason: my newborn son was rushed into hospital for major heart surgery. He even had the cheek to say that I "should make the rent my priority".:mad:
But I suppose I would have deserved a "rent-dodger" plaque would I?
Where to?
I have personal experience of a shite landlord who served notice on me cause my rent was 3 weeks late. The Reason: my newborn son was rushed into hospital for major heart surgery. He even had the cheek to say that I "should make the rent my priority".:mad:
But I suppose I would have deserved a "rent-dodger" plaque would I?
What if they needed the rent to pay for their kids heart operation?
I am sorry to hear of your situation, but sadly it is not your landlords responsibility.
brighteyes
07-10-2008, 09:20 PM
What if they needed the rent to pay for their kids heart operation?
I am sorry to hear of your situation, but sadly it is not your landlords responsibility.
You dont pay for paediatric heart surgery here mate.
Oh of course, you're absolutely right.
I should have spent the nine hours of my babies surgery time getting up off my arse, travelling 60 miles back home and making sure my (childless) landlord had his money.
Forgive me, I thought there was something called "compassion" but it must have been a dream. :(
You dont pay for paediatric heart surgery here mate.
Oh of course, you're absolutely right.
I should have spent the nine hours of my babies surgery time getting up off my arse, travelling 60 miles back home and making sure my (childless) landlord had his money.
Forgive me, I thought there was something called "compassion" but it must have been a dream. :(
Maybe there was a que on the NHS and they went private.
The situation I am giving is of course hypothetical but the logic stands.
If it makes you feel any better, your landlord was a complete cum dribbler, but sadly they were "right."
brighteyes
07-10-2008, 09:36 PM
Maybe there was a que on the NHS and they went private.
The situation I am giving is of course hypothetical but the logic stands.
If it makes you feel any better, your landlord was a complete cum dribbler, but sadly they were "right."
I agree with your statement about the landlord.:D
I don't need to feel better as he got his karmic comeuppance in the end.;)
Logic is a wonderful thing, I practice it every day. Unfortunately life is sometimes illogical.
:)
armoured_amazon
07-10-2008, 09:43 PM
Let hope it backfires and the tennants can Sue the Landlords if only to protect there Human rights.There aim is to bully the familys that have been paying off there Landlords mortgage for them ! Only to have missed a payment or too and are left to face total social embarrassment which may even lead to harassment.
Anyone faced with this problem Should seek a lawyer or a solictor at once this is one fight that CAN be won in a court of law.
Those who would most likely to be affected are the ones who genuinely can't pay and would be ashamed at being unable to pay anyway.
There will be the others who will see the sign as a status symbol much the same as those who revel in having asbos and tags.
Either way it's not really the right approach.
I agree with the points made in the above posts. I remember back when I was younger I was claiming housing benefit and many times the claim would stall due to incompetent admin. Fortunately the housing association I rented from were used to these backlogs and so I didn't get in any trouble for it. Had I been renting from a private landlord and this stupid method of shaming tenants been implemented, I would NOT have been happy.
I agree with the points made in the above posts. I remember back when I was younger I was claiming housing benefit and many times the claim would stall due to incompetent admin. Fortunately the housing association I rented from were used to these backlogs and so I didn't get in any trouble for it. Had I been renting from a private landlord and this stupid method of shaming tenants been implemented, I would NOT have been happy.
Why didn't you pay your own rent, at lest in the interim?
Would you have objected to a "Benefit claimant" sign?
Since other peoples taxes paid for your housing.
armoured_amazon
07-10-2008, 09:49 PM
Why didn't you pay your own rent, at lest in the interim?
Because my rent exceeded my income.
Why didn't I move somewhere cheaper? THERE WASN'T ANYWHERE CHEAPER.
As I've spent the past decade (and more) paying self-employed tax, taxes on my businesses AND employed many others, I think I've MORE than paid my dues.
:rolleyes:
pheony
07-10-2008, 09:50 PM
Why didn't you pay your own rent, at lest in the interim?
Wow you have all the answers dont you....Not.
real6
07-10-2008, 09:53 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/REAL6/Misc/rentdoger.jpg
Pay your fucking rent. If you people dont like it, STEP YOUR FUCKING GAME UP!!!
Go to school and learn a trade or a career so you have money in your pocket.
Now words from our sponcer:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/REAL6/Misc/notgoing.jpg
Wow you have all the answers dont you....Not.
? : The question mark. Denotes a question, seeking an answer not providing one.
duckingdafta
07-10-2008, 09:58 PM
Since other peoples taxes paid for your housing.
is that what actually believe?... you actually think if everyone on the country could meet their payments and worked with no benefits claimants you would pay LESS tax?... is that a dream all extremist right wingers have?
You talk a lot about 'other people' and 'they' but never actually for yourself,. I take it you own your house and car and it is all paid for?
once you have all you want in life why is it so bad to do for others and help with a little compassion to humanity..or is it because this stands in the way of greed?
is that what actually believe?... you actually think if everyone on the country could meet their payments and worked with no benefits claimants you would pay LESS tax?... is that a dream all extremist right wingers have?
You talk a lot about 'other people' and 'they' but never actually for yourself,. I take it you own your house and car and it is all paid for?
once you have all you want in life why is it so bad to do for others and help with a little compassion to humanity..or is it because this stands in the way of greed?
Yep.
I have the outsanding debt of my morgage which I pay through my self employment.
My car is probably has less market value than I pay to keep her on the road, she has value to me though as she does what I need for work and pleasure whilst being cheaper than buying new.
Once you have what you want in life you should be free to volunteer what you want to others.
How can it be justified to be so anti government invasion of privacy and self determination EXCEPT where it benefits them.
pheony
07-10-2008, 10:06 PM
is that what actually believe?... you actually think if everyone on the country could meet their payments and worked with no benefits claimants you would pay LESS tax?... is that a dream all extremist right wingers have?
You talk a lot about 'other people' and 'they' but never actually for yourself,. I take it you own your house and car and it is all paid for?
once you have all you want in life why is it so bad to do for others and help with a little compassion to humanity..or is it because this stands in the way of greed?
I see a big ego and little compassion.
duckingdafta
07-10-2008, 10:09 PM
I see a big ego and little compassion.
my name means 'little big man' in hopi.. :D
I see a big ego and little compassion.
Says the person who thinks their level of compassion is best and everyone should emulate it rather than leving them free to choose their own.
pheony
07-10-2008, 10:11 PM
my name means 'little big man' in hopi.. :D
Thats Great. :D
duckingdafta
07-10-2008, 10:13 PM
I have the outsanding debt of my morgage which I pay through my self employment..
well if your business starts slowing down and find it hard to hire, you might be glad of people like me who work for free just to help out a while with odd jobs. (you might even think you've already paid me for it with your taxes, either way doesn't matter) not all are successful this doesn't IMO mean they deserve to fail (this is if you live near York)
well if your business starts slowing down and find it hard to hire, you might be glad of people like me who work for free just to help out a while with odd jobs. (you might even think you've already paid me for it with your taxes, either way doesn't matter) not all are successful this doesn't IMO mean they deserve to fail (this is if you live near York)
One man band, I wouldn't say successfull, probably if you look at the hours I put in I must barely make minimum wage per hour.
Work almost every hour of the week early morning till late night, have done whole weekends without Saturday nights sleep , but I get out what I put in, (less taxes :mad:)
pheony
07-10-2008, 10:26 PM
Says the person who thinks their level of compassion is best and everyone should emulate it rather than leving them free to choose their own.
I can't remember saying my level of compassion is best...Because i did'nt .Did i say 'everyone' should emulate it....No i did'nt. I said 'you' had a big ego and little compassion.
"Says the person who thinks"......You know what i think.....You obviously have hidden talents.:D:D:D
tracker
07-10-2008, 10:33 PM
Unvailed as a way of punishing those who cannot afford there rent will receive a Rent-Dodger Sign post on the side of there accommodation!
For everyone to see this may not even be legal iam unsure but the fact remains confidentiality the basic of everyones Human Rights may be slowly destroyed.
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2008/10/07/defaulting-tenants-to-be-shamed-as-rent-dodgers-64375-21978680/2/
How will parents explain to there children what the Sign means ?
Property owners bump up the rent and its the familys that suffer buy to rent should be regulated somehow.
fcking sick !
so let me get this straight .
the sysem that holds us slaves and poor can then punish us and take our goods , then assassinate our humanity for being poor in a system we havent created just because some of us cant pay their exstortionate slave driving rents ????????????????????????????:eek:
im so enoyed , im going to call all authorites ?
pedos !
because it is the law under the child protection act that any child being filmed must have the parents strict permition ! otherwise they are under contempt of breaking the child protection law . hence , authorities film us every day , even when we are with our kids .
this makes them all
pedos !
besides
08-10-2008, 01:51 AM
fcking sick !
so let me get this straight .
the sysem that holds us slaves and poor can then punish us and take our goods , then assassinate our humanity for being poor in a system we havent created just because some of us cant pay their exstortionate slave driving rents ????????????????????????????:eek:
im so enoyed , im going to call all authorites ?
pedos !
because it is the law under the child protection act that any child being filmed must have the parents strict permition ! otherwise they are under contempt of breaking the child protection law . hence , authorities film us every day , even when we are with our kids .
this makes them all
pedos !
with you on this one tracker, the old blitz-spirit of community will provide counter posters - naming and shaming - on boards on flyers etc etc. ...
eg " this man just evicted a 90 year old woman for being £20 short on her rent"
eg2. " this landlord turfs the children of our community out onto the street"
or stronger language a la your post.
looks like as usual saving the banks first, then ....., then .... then the multiproperty owners .... the people at the bottom get shafted, top down disgrace.
communities [geographical and local ones] have to come together on this, and come together strongly before all those in the potential "oppression chain" get bought off. turn it around and send power back up the chain.
tell dem " not one member of our community will be branded or evicted due to the greed of bankers or the corruption of politicians. not a single one." ... thats a powerful social message, to bring people onside.
from this position bail out comes from the bottom up, through people, the ultimate asset.
besides.
hw spartan
08-10-2008, 03:22 AM
How about extending this?
To banks and financial institutions that receive bail-outs?
Fuck yes, if you hold the ladder Ill screw in the sign.
haha come on, we solved it right back there in these posts
haha
ok..il hold the ladder:D
Buy to let is killing the banks who Buyers now owe well over 162Billion pounds
Now its left for the tax payers to rebuild after the flood gates closed.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ-JiTyhvfo
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qij0CsvY0XU
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mFWzs8sChWg&feature=related
Banks Lend People Five Times There Salary ??
Buy to Let boomed and now Gloom is setting in.
Morgage Dodger boards for the Landlords issued by banks see how they like it ??
:mad:
besides
10-10-2008, 02:00 AM
on the surface - the headlines this looks promising and a sign of progress. a little deeper and it might be "anti-nwo-cover" -ish, like a "left-cover" towards a system response to siphon"ordinary" peeps away from truthseekers - "rational underground"[tm] etc: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures By DON BABWIN – 1 day ago CHICAGO (AP) — The sheriff here said Wednesday that he's ordering his deputies to stop evicting people from foreclosed properties because many people his office has helped throw out on the street are renters who did nothing wrong. "We will no longer be a party to something that's so unjust," a visibly angry Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart said at a news conference. ref : http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gWQSAw_s2aqqnJS5Ib0-PbD24H5gD93MJAO00 for a bit more coverage look at: http://news.google.co.uk/news?ned=us&hl=en&ned=us&q=cook+county&btnG=Search+News for the next few days notice the comments from the banks as they close ranks on a vulnerable oppression chain, perhaps taking "ownership of the problem" so as to direct the problem? { this ones a better article } : The Illinois Bankers Association opposed the plan, saying that Dart "was elected to uphold the law and to fulfill the legal duties of his office, which include serving eviction notices." http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/08/chicago.evictions/?iref=mpstoryview the old blitz-spirit of community will provide counter posters - naming and shaming - on boards on flyers etc etc. ... ... looks like as usual saving the banks first, then ....., then .... then the multiproperty owners .... the people at the bottom get shafted, top down disgrace. communities [geographical and local ones] have to come together on this, and come together strongly before all those in the potential "oppression chain" get bought off. turn it around and send power back up the chain. tell dem " not one member of our community will be branded or evicted due to the greed of bankers or the corruption of politicians. not a single one." ... thats a powerful social message, to bring people onside. from this position bail out comes from the bottom up, through people, the ultimate asset. besides.
duckingdafta
10-10-2008, 02:05 AM
why not just make the same signs and shove them outside the banks with "These guys fucked our lives".. and the large supermarkets (especially tesco) saying "These Guys chip you shopping!" and so on with any cause you can think of... if it's a rule for them, use it against them.
also the signs selling houses for banks, paint over them telling them the mortgages are now paid off by the government with the bail out and stop it going back to bank & market traders
armoured_amazon
10-10-2008, 02:11 AM
why not just make the same signs and shove them outside the banks with "These guys fucked our lives".. and the large supermarkets (especially tesco) saying "These Guys chip you shopping!" and so on with any cause you can think of... if it's a rule for them, use it against them.
also the signs selling houses for banks, paint over them telling them the mortgages are now paid off by the government with the bail out and stop it going back to bank & market traders
LOL I like it :)