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real6

05-10-2008, 03:39 PM

evidence for giants nephilim rephaim anunnaki part 1 - YouTube

sade

05-10-2008, 05:00 PM

Apparently Sitching is a misinformat.
Don't remember why exactly..

real6

05-10-2008, 05:12 PM

Apparently Sitching is a misinformat.
Don't remember why exactly..

You mean Zacarias Sitchin?

http://www.livevideo.com/video/urnow/A3E79782C8054C6C9C8CAAEBC3B5EBF1/ancient-sumerian-history.aspx

sade

05-10-2008, 05:20 PM

Now I remember who said he was an misinformat.
Stewart Swerdlow.

sitchin site:expansions.com - Google-haku
If you have mozilla, you can find the posts easily where he talks about Sitching.
In a post of 2001 he believes in him, then in 2002(?) doesn't.
Apparently we should have seen Planet X IN 2003 but he said it was destroyed in 2004.
I didn't see any planet that doesn't belong in this galaxy in 2003...:D

And yes, I ment Zacharia.
-edit- According to Stew, Sitchin has been changing a lot of what he's been saying.
Would love to hear what other people on this forum think about Sitchin.
Is he for real or not?

real6

05-10-2008, 05:33 PM

Now I remember who said he was an misinformat.
Stewart Swerdlow.

http://www.google.fi/search?hl=fi&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Afi%3Aofficial&hs=e2q&q=sitchin+site%3Aexpansions.com&btnG=Hae&meta=lr%3Dlang_ja
If you have mozilla, you can find the posts easily where he talks about Sitching.
In a post of 2001 he believes in him, then in 2002(?) doesn't.
Apparently we should have seen Planet X IN 2003 but he said it was destroyed in 2004.
I didn't see any planet that doesn't belong in this galaxy in 2003...:D

And yes, I ment Zacharia.
-edit- According to Stew, Sitchin has been changing a lot of what he's been saying.
Would love to hear what other people on this forum think about Sitchin.
Is he for real or not?

Thanks. Ill check it when i get home later.

jesta_g

05-10-2008, 05:43 PM

Would love to hear what other people on this forum think about Sitchin.
Is he for real or not?

indeed, very interesting. im a fan of many of the things he has to say but it is quite clear he is not telling everything. it would seem as tho he is afraid of "higher powers". according to david icke when they had a seminar together Sitchin denied all knowledge nd information on reptilian beigs then later leant forward to Icke and privately said to him "you dont want to go there".

i think in order for Sitchin to get close to even "translate" the sumerian texts he had to make a wee deal with higher ups to do so, in return he could not say everything and kept alot of informatin in the dark.

in my opinion a good man who is being held back from saying all he wants to say. hes at an age where he cant exactly stand up to them

elirien

05-10-2008, 05:47 PM

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/

jesta_g

05-10-2008, 05:57 PM

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/

cheers dude :) just checked the site much i wanted to hear.

still this doesnt take away the evidence of ancient technologcally advanced races and and intervention with ET "gods".

as i mentioned im quite sure Sitchin has been told to watch what he reveals and says.

sade

05-10-2008, 06:11 PM

elirien

05-10-2008, 06:14 PM

cheers dude :) just checked the site much i wanted to hear.

still this doesnt take away the evidence of ancient technologcally advanced races and and intervention with ET "gods".

as i mentioned im quite sure Sitchin has been told to watch what he reveals and says.

no problem ;)

It has been some time since I checked that info out so I'm not quite sure where sitchin was wrong or not. his translations from hebrew are squat which actually kills tsarion's, maxwell's and icke's research in some fields.

I'm ok with there being advanced races around and I don't think anyone will need sitchin to theorize on that one. Living and not remembering what you were before, pyramids, atlantis etc. are evidence enough to theorize.

But believing Sitchin after these facts from this site is quite hard. One must be very insecure imho to do that :) I am sure he reviewed everything he wrote and is very pleased with himself to misdirect people to await some 12th planet to rescue us.

real6

05-10-2008, 06:20 PM

Could it be that he is called a fraud because he is the opposite?
I had forgotten completely about what Icke had said about him!
Atleast the comment Sitchin made to Icke shows that he knows about the reptiles...;)

I remember a few years ago that there were reports in the media about a planet behind Pluto that was pulling it or something. Planet X maybe?
Then I heard another theory, that it had been destroyed centuries ago and our asteroid belt was the remainings of it. Was that Icke who said that?

http://members.toast.net/rjspina/images/sm-Irish%20Giant.gif

http://members.toast.net/rjspina/images/GiantHumanLeg2.jpg

Lol I just died. Imagine that as you'r girlfriend/boyfriend. Haha. (sorry, trying to stay humorous)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/REAL6/800px-Planets2008.jpg

Check this site out for all the pictures!!!

http://members.toast.net/rjspina/Giants%20and%20Cannibalism.htm

The remains of seven individuals have been found at Dmanisi - the most recent this summer - but what made this discovery so special was that it did not look like the skull of any human ever found outside Africa before. Its brain cavity was far smaller - half the size of a modern human - and it had the huge canine teeth and thin brow of an ape. The skull variation may force us to rethink the definition Homo This was not the tall, upright, big-brained Homo erectus we had assumed the first humans to leave Africa to have been.

The skull is Thought to be 1.8 million years old.
By Robert Parsons in Dmanisi, Georgia

"On the earth there once were giants,"
Greek poet Homer wrote in 400 B.C.

Of the many archaeological mysteries, one of the most enigmatic has been discoveries of giant prehistoric human skeletons...What mysterious people constructed earthen forts, burial mounds, macadamized roadways? Who left pictographs, inscribed stones and giant skeletons to be discovered?...
Genesis 6:4 tells "There were Nephilim (giants) on the earth in those days and afterwards"

WERE THERE RACES OF GIANTS PREEXISTING MODERN MAN AND AFTERWARDS?

"The hard part is not finding the truth.
The hard part is accepting it, especially when it means
that your presently held views are proven wrong."

There are tales of Aryan "Superbeings," Greek, Norse and Celtic Mythology, and nearly every religion in the world; including the Christian Scriptures:
"...And moreover we saw the descendants of Anak there...a land that devours its inhabitants; and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great size. There also we saw the Nephilim; and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight." Numbers 13:28-33

In 1911 several mummified remains of red-haired humans were found in Lovelock Cave about 70 miles NE of Reno, Nevada. They stood about 6.5 to 8 feet tall and were mentioned in the local legends of the Piute Indians of the area. Scientists were reluctant to look at the bones, most of which ended up being thrown away by miners. A few, including this skull which is almost a foot long is at the National Historical Society in Reno, Nevada.

3,000 Year Old Giant Skeleton Found
Suva - Mysterious skeletal remains of what appears to be a 3 000-year- old giant have been unearthed on a South Pacific island, but the bones' discovery has rattled local archaeologists who say poor treatment of the remains may have lost vital information.

Little is known about the highly unusual find, which includes a skull bearing strange holes drilled into its cheekbones, with authorities keen to keep the controversial discovery under wraps.

According to sources, the body, found at Lomaiviti, an island to the north of here, predates European exploration of the Pacific and it is believed the man was originally from the Solomon Islands.

The body was discovered last week by a Solomon Islander from the University of the South Pacific (USP), alongside examples of Lapita pottery - artifacts created by a group of Melanesians believed to have been the founders of modern Polynesia.

Measuring 1.9 meters (six foot six), the body is unusually large considering its age and origin. Pictures of its skull show the holed cheekbones, a feature unseen in previous discoveries, according to Fiji Museum sources.

The head of prehistory archaeology at the museum, Sepeti Matararaba, said the discovery of the body and pottery was "significant".

"As for the skeleton remains, I will still have to see it ... it is a significant find for us.

"Studies done there now would enlighten us more on the early traveling habits in those times. We have found similar pottery on neighboring islands of the group.

"Once they are dated, we can know the exact patterns of living and the kind of activities during those early occupations. It is really very good news."

But the skeleton has already caused controversy with experts voicing concern over its treatment at the hands of "cowboy" archaeologists.

One senior Fiji Museum source said a relocation of the remains may have destroyed vital information and museum experts should have been consulted earlier.

"These cowboy archaeologists, a bit like parachute journalists, are allowed such field trips but by law, if they were find something as significant as a skeleton, especially of the suspected period of existence, the Museum must be informed," the senior official said.

"It is also only logical that our field staff who are trained for such excavations are informed of such developments considering their skills and tools, paramount of course is the creation and maintenance of our historical database."

Patrick Nunn, the supervisor of the archaeological team analyzing the remains at USP would not comment and said on Sunday "we have decided to keep our find under wraps". - Sapa/AFP

• Story originally published by:
News24 / South Africa - July 14.02
Burlington UFO Center
UFO and Paranormal Research and Education

The giant teeth found in China and known as "dragon's teeth" were found by the German-Dutch paleontologist G. H. R. von Koenigswald around 1935 in a Chinese herbal shop. They were studied by various authorities who noticed that they bore a striking resemblance to human teeth, though around twice the size.

They calculated that the teeth belonged to a hominoid around 11.8 feet (3.6 meters) tall, which would have weighed in at 694 pounds (315 kilograms).

Von Koenigswald named the creature Gigantopithecus blacki. The close resemblance to human teeth had led some palaeomorphologists at the time to speculate that modern humans might have descended from "giant" ancestors. Modern science, however, was adamant that the teeth are from "giant extinct apes".

As far as this writer knows, the only evidence that science possesses of these creatures at the moment is a few teeth, some lower jawbones and possibly a piece of distal humerus. (Isn't it laughable that, ever since Darwin's time, science has been trying to make a man out of a monkey? Now, faced with the possibility of giant humans, they are trying to make monkeys out of men!)

Biblical Information of Giants
NAMES OF GIANT RACES OR TRIBES
Annunaki (Anak, Anakim, Anakites, Nephilim, Arba, Rephaites). Anu,
Pleiades, An, Anshar, Kishar, Antu, Ki, Gibil, Nusku, Gulu, Ninmah,
Nergal, Cuthah, Kuta, Gudua, Gudea, Imdugud, Ningursu, Zeus, Odin, Danu.

Darwinian evolutionists –as well as any other enemy of the Faith– are always demanding from Christians scientific evidences that would corroborate the claims of the Bible concerning everything it says in general, and the giants of Genesis chapter 6 in particular.

Well, evidences abound, and this is one. I should say that there could be many more at hand, but when they have been found by fundamentalist Darwinians, they have been ignored, hidden or simply destroyed. Destroyed by those who later on demand such evidence. An example of this is the "mysterious" disappearance of more than 50 perfectly kept gigantic antediluvian skeletons (between 10-14 feet tall) found in a cave in Arizona.

You may, or not, have heard that Mr. Samuel Hubbard, discovered remains of giants in a cave in the magnificent Grand Canyon of Arizona. His discovery was very important: He found 2 petrified human bodies about 15-18 feet tall respectively. One of these was buried under a recent rock fall which required several days' work to remove; the other, which Mr. Hubbard photographed, was in a difficult to access crevice. Both bodies were formed of a limestone petrification embedded in sandstone. He also found an ancient beach, now sandstone, that contained a great number of footprints of an entire race of giants: men, women and children. The prints of the adults were between 17 and 20 inches long and corresponded in size and shape to the Carson City and Blue Ridge prints. With these prints are also associated those of a huge elephant, somewhat similar in size to the remains discovered in the La Brea pits –the Elephas Primigenius– as well as tracks of a very small horse, which probably corresponded to the "Pliohippus." This beach where all this was found was evidently occupied when the river was many hundreds of feet above its actual level. Some of the human prints wee partly covered by the overlying stratum of stone, which is gradually weathering off. Lastly, he found wall drawings that showed dinosaurs, elephants, ostriches, and ibexes; as well as the same figure of the serpent with the egg in its mouth as it has been found in the Mississippi mounds, with numerous other drawings. One of the drawings showed an elephant attacking a man. If the drawing is to scale, and if the elephant corresponds to the La Brea animal, then the man must have been about 18 feet tall.

Even Darwinians have fond specimens so enormous that they have called : "Gigantanthropus" or "Gigantopithecus" (Scientists love those high-sounding names to impress you, and make you think that they know much more than they really do) The following is an interesting quote from Dr. Franz Weidenreich of the American Museum of Natural History and who computed the size of "Meganthropus." And found out that it was about 800 pounds and, if proportioned like modern man, then he would had been 9 feet tall. About the same height as that famous Nephilim called Goliath a contemporary of another Nephilim, Og the king of Bashan. Dr. Weidenreich said: ...
But the gist of the whole story, which arouses our foremost interest, is the fact that "Gigantopithecus" is not a giant ape, as von Koenigswald assumed, but a giant man and should, therefore, be called "Gigantanthropus." This follows beyond any doubt from the very characteristic pattern of the occlusal surface of the teeth, which differs fundamentally in the structure of the cusps from that of any known anthropoids but agrees even in the minutest details with the hominid pattern as shown by the molars of "Pithecanthropus," Sinanthropus" (other kinds of Nephilim) and even modern man. On the other hand, the form of the teeth, especially that of the third lower molar, and the condition of its root indicate that it has preserved a very primitive character, much more primitive than the known third molars of any fossil hominid. Therefore, we have the same combination which struck us in the human fossils of Java; namely, primitives together with gigantic proportions. But in the case of "Gigantopithecus" the gigantism reaches a new climax. The volume of the crown of the third lower molar is about six times larger than the average crown of modern man; compared with the corresponding tooth of the gorilla, it is about twice as large. We should remember that there have been found human tracks 21.5 inches long in Texas and even a phenomenal 24 inches long in Australia. On the other hand, let's not forget that every ancient culture on earth has recollections of giants that became part of their mythologies.
So, were there real giants on the earth? You bet! Why I know so? Because God says so in His Bible. Period. But, of course, that period is enough for me and those who have experienced the veracity of the only Holy Book on the planet in our own lives. (No, I'm not politically correct. I hate hypocrisy) For the rest, who have not had such personal experience or those of weak Faith I give you this photo of a 47-inches human femur of a 14-16 feet tall giant, which says it all.

"Photo of an Antediluvian Giant"

"Sumerian Giant godlike kings"
All the ancient mythologies had a common base of reality in them which, in time, was distorted by Satan operating throughout the feeble human nature. Sumaria, Egypt, Mexico, Peru, India, China, Esc have common patterns of reality in all of their ancient beliefs, i.e.. The story of the Flood and giants on the earth that were mighty beyond any human capability.

Below you can see for yourself a few examples of this.

Observe the monstrous size of the "god-king" that is sitting.
How tall would he have been when erected?

Same as above, but observe that in the center
there is what now is called an insectoid.

Observe the size of these beings compared to the lion on the left.
Also watch the winged being in the center

"...And moreover we saw the descendants of Anak there...a land that devours its inhabitants; and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great size. There also we saw the Nephilim; and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight." Numbers 13:28-33
The name Anakim means literally "long necked" and are first mentioned in Deuteronomy 1:28, a race of giants (Deuteronomy 2:10-11).

Long-necked Alien

The Anakim in Deuteronomy 9:1-5 describe "nations greater and mightier than Israel" with cities fortified to heaven, a people great and tall of whom its been said "who can stand before the sons of Anak?" They - the Canaanite nations are being dispossed and destroyed because of their wickedness.

The Anakim were a terror to the spies sent out by Moses (Numbers 13:28), and were mostly destoryed by Joshua, a remnant having escaped to the Philistine cities (Joshua 11:21-22). Caleb ultimately destoryed them (Joshua 15:14).

The Paduang hilltribe, where only the women wear huge brass rings
around the neck and are a sub-group of the Karen hill tribes; everyone knows them as the Long-Necked Hilltribe.

The following is an excerpt "From the Land of Green Ghosts" by Pascal Khoo Thwe
To us children grandmothers were by far the most powerful goddesses of the clan. Even their husbands consented to their absolute rule in domestic affairs. Mu Kya and Mu Tha had worn the neck-rings most of their lives, but gave them up in old age. They looked to us like mythical creatures, half-human and half-bird -- and yet it never occurred to us that the Padaung were different from other people.

© Christina L. Frazer Dragon Lady

We were descended from a 'zawgyi' - a male creature, half human and half angel -- and a beautiful female dragon did not seem odd, merely a source of pride.

Our supernatural origins were also revealed in the klong, or 'drums of desire' (which we also called 'frog-drums') that were beaten on solemn and auspicious occasions. These had been bequeathed to the tribe by a supernatural being, called 'Big Ball' from his most obvious feature. He was a mischievous creature who delighted in destroying our trees.
A Pertinent Note

I know that some of these news sound somewhat far fetched, but they are true indeed. The media, in general, takes the supernatural or conspiratorial off our eyes. Remember, the enemies of the Lord claim the same concerning the realities described in the Bible. The fact that something sounds weird does not mean that it is unreal at all. After all, we are in the End Times and things will get even stranger and much more distasteful before the Lord comes to end it all and start a new, perfect and beautiful world. What a wonderful Day that will be! I pray that you all are able to discern in these news the actual fulfillment of many prophecies which multiple generations of Christians longed for the honor to see... and live.

AND THERE WERE GIANTS Article by John Mount © 2001 - What of the fossilized giant mentioned in the Strand magazine of 1895, whose 12-foot-2-inch body was propped up for viewing against a 19th Century railroad carriage, totally dwarfing it? It's funny how these "finds" often disappear and never again see the light of day. Thankfully, a reporter took a photograph...

Click image
According to ancient literature, humans and giants were rarely able to live together in harmony. A manuscript called The Apocalypse of Baruch, a pseudepigraphical work written around AD 100 and preserved only in the sixth-century Syriac Vulgate (and which seems a little unclear in parts) appears to hint at the origin of giants: Men began as giants. These first giants were very highly developed, intellectually, artistically and physically - they had power over birds and animals...they misbehaved and were abolished by God, and ordinary men took their place...
See Modern Giants

Upon a decisive battle with a Philistine army that contained a number of men of gigantic stature, eventually killing several of them. The biblical commentator mentions that while examining one of the bodies of these giants, David's men noticed some unusual characteristics: And there was...a battle in Gath, a city of the Philistines also known as the City of Giants, where was [found the body of] a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers and on every foot six toes... (2 Sam 21:20)

At Mesa Verde, Colorado, USA. The Long House is one of the two largest of the cliff dwellings and is believed to have housed over 150 residents. Notice the above graphic. . this is called the "six fingered hand" and appears to be EXACTLY that! As with most of the cliff houses, at the bottom of the draw below this site is a healthy spring which could have provided water for Square Tower's occupants. Hand and toe "trials", carved into the cliff's sandstone, provided access to water sources and the mesa above where fields were located. There was no path access to this dwelling. The history is mysterious.

This is a 36' ladder, the original inhabitants HAD NO LADDERS - Were they giants, or escaping from the giants like at Cuzco?

Archaeological evidence for documented cannibalism associated with the mass ritual killings of the Aztecs is also now coming to light. Accounts of the Aztec ceremonies describe how choice elements, such as the heart and good leg meat, were eaten ritually at the élite level, with the remainder being cycled down through descending social levels. Numerous examples of small, spalled and weathered fragments of human bone consistent with these historical accounts have been found widely scattered outside the swept-clean temple precincts.

CANNIBALISM

" Every Easter Islander knows that his ancestors were kai-tangata, 'man-eaters'. Some make jokes about it, others take offense at any allusion to this custom which has become in their eyes barbarous and shameful. According to Father Roussel, cannibalism did not disappear until after the introduction of Christianity. Shortly before this, the natives are said to have eaten a number of men, including two Peruvian traders. Cannibal feasts were held in secluded spots, and women and children were rarely admitted. The natives told Father Zumbohm that the fingers and toes were the choicest morsels. The captives destined to be eaten were shut up in huts in front of the sanctuaries. There they were kept until the moment when they were sacrificed to the gods. The Easter Islanders' cannibalism was not exclusively a religious rite or the expression of an urge for revenge: it was also induced by a simple liking for human flesh that could impel a man to kill for no other reason than his desire for fresh meat. (Man was the only large mammal whose flesh was available) Women and children were the principal victims of these inveterate cannibals. The reprisals that followed such crimes were all the more violent because an act of cannibalism committed against the member of a family was a terrible insult to the whole family. As among the ancient Maoris, those who had taken part in the meal were entitled to show their teeth to the relatives of the victim and say, 'Your flesh has stuck between my teeth'. Such remarks were capable of rousing those to whom they were addressed to a murderous rage not very different from the Maly amok." From Easter Island - A Stone-Age Civilization of the Pacific By Alfred Metraux, Oxford University Press, 1957

See Easter Island Mysteries

The Book Of Enoch

[Chapter 6] 1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto 2 them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not 4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations 5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves 6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn 7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaq1el, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.

See Modern Cannibalism WARNING - GRAPHIC

[Chapter 7] 1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms 2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they 3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed 4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against 5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and 6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

bernardsmith

05-10-2008, 06:22 PM

sade

05-10-2008, 06:48 PM

jesta_g

05-10-2008, 07:43 PM

elirien

05-10-2008, 09:37 PM

pri01

05-10-2008, 09:47 PM

DOES ANYONE OR HAS ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ON "COUNTER EARTH" AT ALL?

i have a nexus magazine and a few books that have interesting information that there is another planet on our orbit that is at the exactly opposite side of the sun?

the egyptians mentioned this planet plenty and it seems quite logical from where many of the books ive read come from.

ill get my magazine and books and give a few quotes and references.

btw between fake sitchin work - planet x - giants - extra planets this thread is becoming very interesting. loving it guys :)

Hi, the article in Nexus claims that the planet on adjacent to us but on the far side of the sun is another planet that is the same as earth. They show a fabulous depiction of an Ancient Egyptian image of an Egyptian god with an erect penis from which life is born. the Egyptian god is yellow which symbolises the sun, the giver of life. Yes, this thread is vey interesting.

jesta_g

05-10-2008, 10:28 PM

Arizona Wilder states the royal lizards change back to lizards when asleep. Considering how many of them were educated in schools where they also lived amongst hundreds of others in dorms, and how many of them were in the armed forces, you would think someone would have noticed this little thing!

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=54

After reading that...My opinion has changed quite a lot.
I usually believe nothing first, but this...Is another thing.

Is she the one who started to tell Icke that all these elites are reptilians?
If yes, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

that is a very important read and must be read by every david icke fan etc if not everyone.

great stuff, thank you Sade :)

so what can we gather from these words?

reptilians dont exist?
- there is far to much evidence/works , even without going through David ickes links and information/refferences, that suggests and or proves that they exist. so my opinion still remains that they do exist.

so the reptilians do exist however the majority of people (in particular on this forum) have a wrong idea of them?

if david is being fed false infrmation and he is referring to them as evil then could this be manipulation in order to have us also beleive they are evil when in fact these reptiles are good?

there are many sources that point to the reptiles being "good", just as much if not more. i have always pondered this idea and been curious to find who or where are these good reptiles.

jesta_g

05-10-2008, 10:32 PM

Hi, the article in Nexus claims that the planet on adjacent to us but on the far side of the sun is another planet that is the same as earth. They show a fabulous depiction of an Ancient Egyptian image of an Egyptian god with an erect penis from which life is born. the Egyptian god is yellow which symbolises the sun, the giver of life. Yes, this thread is vey interesting.

thats the magazine ive got yip :) i also have some books with this infrmation.

its also mentioned on wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Earth

it gives infrmation aganst the idea that it is there but enough to understand the theory.

can anyone else find any links/info on this?

sade

05-10-2008, 10:52 PM

jesta_g

05-10-2008, 11:15 PM

YW elirien. :)

Yikes jesta. You asked some really good questions there...

The article in the end says that Icke doesn't trust her either, but if I understood correctly, he used the reptilians to gather attention. He indeed did!

David Wilcock also believes there are reptiles, but that they are NOT shapeshifting on this planet. Lol. He also sees them negatively, just like Swerdlow.
But I've heard there are some Dracos (?) that are good, but I don't remember who said this.

And if the reptiles are indeed good and everyone else is wrong...
Why have they been made evil? Who would be behind that?

indeed, why have they been made out to be evil?

we have annunaki that dressed up as them and or "shapeshifted" as them in the past.
we have the bible that was written by elites to make them seem evil, the serpent who in the garden who did not do anything wrong except show adam and eve the truth which was then taken from them by "god".
also the bibles heroes st. george/ st. micheal killing these serpents. and with this we know that the peple behind religion in particular catholicism are pure evil(jesuits etc).
we have information on the lemurians who were a "good" race as said by all the pacific island natives in particular the maori of new zealand.
throughout history the powers that be have always shown the serpents as evil and or to be feared.
and there are many many more references to the reptilians in our history that were beings of love and shared knowledge to our ancestors.

i believe there are evil serpents that are in line with the "hidden masters" but with the light of this info we must also take into consideration that the reptilians were possibly manipulated along with us and are just as much "slaves" as we are.

very interesting.

new thread to discuss ,even prove the possibility that the reptilians are our friends?

once again everyone must read that link you posted. it is farely important to the many question that can and should be asked.

real6

06-10-2008, 03:39 AM

thats the magazine ive got yip :) i also have some books with this infrmation.

its also mentioned on wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Earth

it gives infrmation aganst the idea that it is there but enough to understand the theory.

can anyone else find any links/info on this?

Damn im surprised ive never heard of this. you can teach an old dog new tricks ;)

I would love some info when you have a chance...

The Counter-Earth is a hypothetical body of the Solar system first hypothesized by the presocratic philosopher Philolaus to support his non-geocentric cosmology, in which all objects in the universe revolve around a Central Fire. The Greek word "Antichthon" means "Counter-Earth."
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From "Dante and the Early Astronomers" by M. A. Orr, 1913.
From "Dante and the Early Astronomers" by M. A. Orr, 1913.

By 500 BC most contemporary philosophers considered the Earth to be spherical - there was obvious evidence for this from the behaviour of objects near the horizon. This meant that all objects on the surface of the Earth had to be attracted to its centre in some way, otherwise they would fall off. It also required other objects, such as the stars and planets, to float above the earth in relation to its centre, otherwise they would presumably move rapidly away. This argument - reasonable in view of the data available at the time - resulted in a geocentric world view.

When the movements of celestial objects convinced Philolaus that the world must be not only turning on its own axis but revolving around a fixed point elsewhere in space, he was faced with the problem of explaining how a spherical world could move in this way without spilling everything on the surface into space. He came to the conclusion that the directions of up and down do not exist in space, except in that all things must fall towards the center of the universe, around which all things (including the Earth, Sun, and all the planets) must revolve. Our earth must be a practically flat world and the underside of our Earth must face this fiery, central point at all times, otherwise we would fall off.

This created a contradiction within the Pythagorean school of thought. Since planets, in their understanding, were composed of a fiery or ethereal matter having little or no density, they could quite easily rotate eccentric to the Earth without becoming off balance. However, the Earth was obviously made of the dense elements of Earth and Water. If there were a single Earth revolving at some distance from the center of space, the universe's center of balance would not coincide with its spatial center. Since this is the point towards which things fall, the earth must have a counter-balance of the same mass or the universe would be flung apart. This problem led Philolaus to develop idea of a Counter-Earth, a second, flat Earth, identical but opposite to ours in every way. This conception of the solar system is outlined in the diagram at the right, with Counter-Earth referred to as Antichthon. The upper illustration depicts Earth at night while the lower one depicts Earth in the day. (In order to prevent confusion it should be noted that the diagram fails to show that Earth and Counter-Earth are flat and point away from the Central Fire). It is likely that Philolaus believed that the whole orbit of Earth was composed of an ethereal sphere, with the Earth and Counter-Earth being local dense points on the surface.

This theory is a very creditable attempt to incorporate all known cosmological data at the time, and indicates the sophistication of Classical Greek thinking. The ideas of a flat earth, Counter-Earth, and Central Fire were all eventually superseded by the theory of Gravitation which is currently held by the scientific community, that describes a spherical earth rotating around both its own axis and the sun. The Counter-Earth is still a popular motif in science fiction and fantasy writing today, usually serving as an allegory for the real Earth.

In the 1st century A.D., after the idea of a spherical Earth superseded the original Counter-Earth theory, Pomponius Mela, a Latin cosmographer, developed an updated version of the idea, wherein a spherical Earth must have a more or less balanced distribution of land and water. Mela drew the first map on which the mysterious continent of Earth appears in the unknown half of Earth - our antipodes. This continent he inscribed with the name Antichthones.[1]

[edit] Scientific analysis

If such a planet actually existed in our current scientific cosmology, as a spherical world that revolved around the sun, it would be permanently hidden behind the sun but nevertheless detectable from Earth, because of its gravitational influence upon the other planets of the Solar System. No such influence has been detected, and indeed space probes sent to Venus, Mars and other places could not have successfully flown by or landed on their targets if a Counter-Earth existed, as it was not accounted for in navigational calculation.

Besides, the Earth orbit is not a circle, it is an ellipse.

The Sun-Jupiter Trojan asteroid system is an example of a stable Lagrange orbit. Equation 10 in section 14 of Lectures on Celestial Mechanics by Siegel and Moser shows the relation between the masses of the bodies and the distances between them in the case of a collinear orbit. However, these linear orbits are not as stable as, for example, the equilateral Lagrange orbits L4 and L5. Hilda asteroids do not visit L3 of Jupiter-Sun system, though they do come close to it in their curious orbits.

[edit] Greek Mythology

According to some Greek Mythology, Antichthon was placed between Earth and the center of the universe, the throne of Zeus, to stop man from looking at God directly.

guuna

06-10-2008, 03:55 AM

Damn im surprised ive never heard of this. you can teach an old dog new tricks ;)

I would love some info when you have a chance...

The Counter-Earth is a hypothetical body of the Solar system first hypothesized by the presocratic philosopher Philolaus to support his non-geocentric cosmology, in which all objects in the universe revolve around a Central Fire. The Greek word "Antichthon" means "Counter-Earth."
Contents
[hide]

[edit] The need for a Counter-Earth
From "Dante and the Early Astronomers" by M. A. Orr, 1913.
From "Dante and the Early Astronomers" by M. A. Orr, 1913.

By 500 BC most contemporary philosophers considered the Earth to be spherical - there was obvious evidence for this from the behaviour of objects near the horizon. This meant that all objects on the surface of the Earth had to be attracted to its centre in some way, otherwise they would fall off. It also required other objects, such as the stars and planets, to float above the earth in relation to its centre, otherwise they would presumably move rapidly away. This argument - reasonable in view of the data available at the time - resulted in a geocentric world view.

When the movements of celestial objects convinced Philolaus that the world must be not only turning on its own axis but revolving around a fixed point elsewhere in space, he was faced with the problem of explaining how a spherical world could move in this way without spilling everything on the surface into space. He came to the conclusion that the directions of up and down do not exist in space, except in that all things must fall towards the center of the universe, around which all things (including the Earth, Sun, and all the planets) must revolve. Our earth must be a practically flat world and the underside of our Earth must face this fiery, central point at all times, otherwise we would fall off.

This created a contradiction within the Pythagorean school of thought. Since planets, in their understanding, were composed of a fiery or ethereal matter having little or no density, they could quite easily rotate eccentric to the Earth without becoming off balance. However, the Earth was obviously made of the dense elements of Earth and Water. If there were a single Earth revolving at some distance from the center of space, the universe's center of balance would not coincide with its spatial center. Since this is the point towards which things fall, the earth must have a counter-balance of the same mass or the universe would be flung apart. This problem led Philolaus to develop idea of a Counter-Earth, a second, flat Earth, identical but opposite to ours in every way. This conception of the solar system is outlined in the diagram at the right, with Counter-Earth referred to as Antichthon. The upper illustration depicts Earth at night while the lower one depicts Earth in the day. (In order to prevent confusion it should be noted that the diagram fails to show that Earth and Counter-Earth are flat and point away from the Central Fire). It is likely that Philolaus believed that the whole orbit of Earth was composed of an ethereal sphere, with the Earth and Counter-Earth being local dense points on the surface.

This theory is a very creditable attempt to incorporate all known cosmological data at the time, and indicates the sophistication of Classical Greek thinking. The ideas of a flat earth, Counter-Earth, and Central Fire were all eventually superseded by the theory of Gravitation which is currently held by the scientific community, that describes a spherical earth rotating around both its own axis and the sun. The Counter-Earth is still a popular motif in science fiction and fantasy writing today, usually serving as an allegory for the real Earth.

In the 1st century A.D., after the idea of a spherical Earth superseded the original Counter-Earth theory, Pomponius Mela, a Latin cosmographer, developed an updated version of the idea, wherein a spherical Earth must have a more or less balanced distribution of land and water. Mela drew the first map on which the mysterious continent of Earth appears in the unknown half of Earth - our antipodes. This continent he inscribed with the name Antichthones.[1]

[edit] Scientific analysis

If such a planet actually existed in our current scientific cosmology, as a spherical world that revolved around the sun, it would be permanently hidden behind the sun but nevertheless detectable from Earth, because of its gravitational influence upon the other planets of the Solar System. No such influence has been detected, and indeed space probes sent to Venus, Mars and other places could not have successfully flown by or landed on their targets if a Counter-Earth existed, as it was not accounted for in navigational calculation.

Besides, the Earth orbit is not a circle, it is an ellipse.

The Sun-Jupiter Trojan asteroid system is an example of a stable Lagrange orbit. Equation 10 in section 14 of Lectures on Celestial Mechanics by Siegel and Moser shows the relation between the masses of the bodies and the distances between them in the case of a collinear orbit. However, these linear orbits are not as stable as, for example, the equilateral Lagrange orbits L4 and L5. Hilda asteroids do not visit L3 of Jupiter-Sun system, though they do come close to it in their curious orbits.

[edit] Greek Mythology

According to some Greek Mythology, Antichthon was placed between Earth and the center of the universe, the throne of Zeus, to stop man from looking at God directly.

The 'counter earth' theory did famously feature in one sci-fi movie.
JOURNEY TO THE FAR SIDE OF THE SUN (1969), Portraying it as it exact copy of the Earth, just reversed as in a mirror image.

jesta_g

06-10-2008, 03:57 AM

The 'counter earth' theory did famously feature in one sci-fi movie.
JOURNEY TO THE FAR SIDE OF THE SUN (1969), Portraying it as it exact copu of the Earth, just reversed as in a mirror image.

interesting, im gonna watch this :) sounds like a cool storyline none the less.

a new reality awaits

06-10-2008, 04:24 AM

Very interesting stuff. The Great Deluge seems to be the key to so much about our origins. I'm just starting to delve into Michael Tsarion's material. So much knowledge, so little time.:D

guuna

06-10-2008, 06:24 AM

There was also a series of pulpy fantasy novels called Gor, set on a 'counter earth' but these were just an excuse for bad Conan wannabe recycled fantasy plots.,and various misogyny involving slave-girls.

Made two movies from them starring Oliver REED

sloughi

18-10-2008, 10:28 PM

http://www.rense.com/general15/hiss.htm