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free_soul

05-10-2008, 12:25 PM

Here is an E petition againt Codex Alimentarius

UK Petition:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vitamins/

US Petition:
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=184

For those who don't know what the codex means here is a few videos.

A quick note for watching the videos;

If my memory serves correct this video was from 2005!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrF9KjlGsc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEqB41Ow0vU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3asBAmKBnE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l24wdZrtZqI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6-ccyvwgGY

This is a very scary way to reduce the population, worse than war (in my opinion).

free_soul

05-10-2008, 12:27 PM

Codex Alimentarius: Population Control Under the Guise of Consumer Protection
by Dr. Gregory Damato, Ph.D. (see all articles by this author)

(NaturalNews) Codeath (sorry, I meant Codex) Alimentarius, latin for Food Code, is a very misunderstood organization that most people (including nearly all U.S. congressmen) have never heard of, never mind understand the true reality of this extremely powerful trade organization. From the official Codex website (www.codexalimentarius.net) the altruistic purpose of this commission is in "protecting health of the consumers and ensuring fair trade practices in the food trade, and promoting coordination of all food standards work undertaken by international governmental and non-governmental organizations". Codex is a joint venture regulated by the Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO) and World Health Organization (WHO).

Brief History of Codex

The history of Codex began in 1893 when the Austria-Hungarian empire decided it needed a specific set of guidelines by which the courts could rule on cases dealing with food [1]. This regulatory set of mandates became known as Codex Alimentarius and was effectively implemented until the fall of the empire in 1918. The United Nations (UN) met in 1962 and decided that Codex should be re-implemented worldwide in order to protect health of the consumers. Two-thirds of funding for Codex emanates from the FAO while the other third comes from the WHO.

In 2002, the FAO and WHO had serious concerns about the direction of Codex and hired an external consultant to determine its performance since 1962 and to designate which direction to take the trade organization [2]. The consultant concluded that Codex should be immediately scrapped and eliminated. It was at this time that big industry realized the full monetary potential of this organization and exerted its powerful influence. The updated outcome was a toned down report asking Codex to address 20 various concerns within the organization.

Since 2002, the Codex Alimentarius Commission has covertly surrendered its role as an international public health and consumer protection organization. Under the helm of big industry, the sole surreptitious purpose of the new codex is to increase profits for the global corporate juggernauts while controlling the world through food. The implicit understanding of their philosophy is that if you control food, you control the world.

Codex Now

The most dominant country behind the agenda of Codex is the United States whose sole purpose is to benefit multinational interests like Big Pharma, Big Agribusiness, Big Chema and the like. At the latest meeting in Geneva, the U.S. recently became the chair of Codex which will facilitate an exacerbation of the distortion of health freedom and will continue the promulgation of misinformation and lies about genetically modified organism (GMOs) and nutrients while fulfilling the tacit population control agenda. The reason the U.S. continues to dominate Codex is because other countries falsely believe the U.S. possesses the latest and greatest safety technology when it comes to food and hence, whatever the U.S. asks for, its allies (E.U., Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Mexico, Australia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan, Singapore) follow suit nearly every time.

Many of the countries who wish to participate and want to voice their opinions are not allowed to attend the Codex meetings as the U.S. denies most visas for these representatives whenever they feel like it. Many of these countries (South Africa, Swaziland, Kenya, Ghana, Egypt, Cameroon, Sudan, Nigeria) realize that Codex has been altered from a benevolent food organization to one that is fraudulent, lethal and illegitimate. The fact that Codex meetings are held all over the world is also no accident and allows the U.S. to maintain its tight grip on the Codex agenda as the less economically viable countries are not able to attend.

The Real Threat

While the esoteric agenda of the media is busy driving fear into the hearts of the world by focusing on terrorism, global warming, salmonella, and food shortages, the real threats are clandestinely becoming a reality. Soon every single thing you put into your mouth (with the exception of pharmaceuticals, of course) will be highly regulated by Codex Alimentarius, including water. The standards of Codex are a complete affront to the freedom of clean and healthy food, yet these regulations have no legal international standing. Why should we be worried? These soon-to-be mandatory standards will apply to every country who are members of the WTO (World Trade Organization). If countries do not follow these standards, then enormous trade sanctions will result. Some Codex standards that will take effect on December 31, 2009 and once initiated are completely irrevocable include [2]:

* All nutrients (vitamins and minerals) are to be considered toxins/poisons and are to be removed from all food because Codex prohibits the use of nutrients to "prevent, treat or cure any condition or disease"

* All food (including organic) is to be irradiated, removing all toxic nutrients from food (unless eaten locally and raw).

* Nutrients allowed will be limited to a Positive List developed by Codex which will include such beneficial nutrients like Fluoride (3.8 mg daily) developed from environmental waste. All other nutrients will be prohibited nationally and internationally to all Codex-compliant countries [2].

* All nutrients (e.g., CoQ10, Vitamins A, B, C, D, Zinc and Magnesium) that have any positive health impact on the body will be deemed illegal under Codex and are to be reduced to amounts negligible to humans' health [3].

* You will not even be able to obtain these anywhere in the world even with a prescription.

* All advice on nutrition (including written online or journal articles or oral advice to a friend, family member or anyone) will be illegal. This includes naturalnews.com reports on vitamins and minerals and all nutritionist's consultations.

* All dairy cows are to be treated with Monsanto's recombinant bovine growth hormone.

* All animals used for food are to be treated with potent antibiotics and exogenous growth hormones.

* The reintroduction of deadly and carcinogenic organic pesticides that in 1991, 176 countries (including the U.S.) have banned worldwide including 7 of the 12 worst at the Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pesticides (e.g., Hexachlorobenzene, Toxaphene, and Aldrin) will be allowed back into food at elevated levels [4].

* Dangerous and toxic levels (0.5 ppb) of aflotoxin in milk produced from moldy storage conditions of animal feed will be allowed. Aflotoxin is the second most potent (non-radiation) carcinogenic compound known to man.

* Mandatory use of growth hormones and antibiotics on all food herds, fish and flocks

* Worldwide implementation of unlabeled GMOs into crops, animals, fish and trees.

* Elevated levels of residue from pesticides and insecticides that are toxic to humans and animals.

Some examples of potential permissible safe levels of nutrients under Codex include [2]:

* Niacin - upper limits of 34 mcg daily (effective daily doses include 2000 to 3000 mcgs).

* Vitamin C - upper limits of 65 to 225 mcg daily (effective daily doses include 6000 to 10000 mcgs).

* Vitamin D - upper limits of 5 μg daily (effective daily doses include 6000 to 10000 μg).

* Vitamin E - upper limits of 15 IU of alpha tocopherol only per day, even though alpha tocopherol by itself has been implicated in cell damage and is toxic to the body (effective daily doses of mixed tocopherols include 10000 to 12000 IU).

The Door is Open for Codex

In 1995, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) created an illegal policy stating that international standards (i.e, Codex) would supersede U.S. laws governing all food even if these standards were incomplete [5]. Furthermore, in 2004 the U.S. passed the Central American Free Trade Agreement (illegal under U.S. law, but legal under international law) that requires the U.S. to conform to Codex in December of 2009 [6].

Once these standards are adopted there is no possible way to return to the standards of the old. Once Codex compliance begins in any area, as long as we remain a member of the WTO, it is totally irrevocable. These standards are then unable to be repealed, changed or altered in any way shape or form [1, 2, 7].

Population control for money is the easiest way to describe the new Codex which is run by the U.S. and controlled by Big Pharma and the like to reduce the population to a sustainable 500 million - a reduction of approximately 93 percent. The FAO and WHO have the audacity to estimate that by the introduction of just the vitamin and mineral guideline alone, at a minimum 3 billion deaths (1 billion from starvation and another 2 billion from preventable and degenerative diseases of under nutrition, e.g., cancer, cardiovascular disease, and diabetes) will result.

Degraded, demineralized, pesticide-filled and irradiated foods are the fastest and most efficient way to cause a profitable surge in malnutrition, preventable and degenerative disease which the most appropriate course of action is always pharmaceuticals. Death for profit is the new name of the game. Big Pharma has been waiting for this opportunity for years.

Fighting Back

Dr. Rima Laibow, M.D., who is the medical director for Natural Solutions Foundation, has undertaken legal action against the U.S. government and continues to attend every Codex meeting while fighting for your health freedom. The latest Codex meeting in Geneva heard some dissenting voices that were tired of the U.S. bullying every other country in the world with its population control agenda. Brazil and China have stated that when smaller, underrepresented countries are unable to attend Codex meetings (due to the U.S. not allowing Visas or for lack of monetary means) then every decision made in their absence is invalid. As a result, Codex may soon fall apart under the weight of it own corruption, but pressure needs to be unilaterally applied.

Dr. Rima has also been meeting with delegates from other countries and making them aware of something called Private Standards. Private standards allow countries to draft food standards which are safer and higher than those mandated by Codex. Obviously, this is not a very difficult task and many countries can seemingly circumvent the flawed and irrevocable guidelines Codex is attempting to implement on December 31, 2009 [7].

What Can You Do?

The only way to avoid such cataclysmic events are to fight with the dissemination of knowledge to everyone you know. It does not matter whether they are still asleep or hypnotized by the enslavement of daily life or too busy to pay attention -- the time to wake up is now. The U.S. government and the collaborating media have been trying to distract America while all these egregious and mandatory standards are covertly passed. It is time to take action and you can do so by going to (www.healthfreedomusa.org) and following the latest updates on Codex. You can also sign a legal citizen's petition here: (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.p...) .

Another effective way to get your voice heard is through sending emails or writing to your congressman (https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml) . If you send one email to congress, it will ostensibly count as 13,000 emails. The U.S. Congress believes that for each person who takes the time to write or email them there are another 13,000 others who share similar views but do not take the time to promulgate them. Those living in other countries need to contact their representatives in order to have your voice heard. It is very important that swift and vociferous action be taken now. Times are changing very rapidly and unless we all come together on this issue we may all have to start thinking about growing our own food in the near future to avoid extermination.

Codex Contacts to Take Action

Dr. F. Edward Scarbrough U.S. Manager for Codex U.S. Department of Agriculture 4861-South Building Washington, DC 20250 Phone: (202) 205-7760 Fax: (202) 720-3157 Ed.scarbrough@fsis.usda.gov

The U.S. Codex official website is  (http://www.fsis.usda.gov/regulations_&_...)

For Further Information Contact: U.S. Codex Office Room 4861, South Building Washington, DC 20250-3700 Phone: (202) 205-7760 Fax: (202) 720-3157 uscodex@fsis.usda.gov

References:

1. Bauman, D.E., Nutricide: Criminalizing natural health, vitamin, and herbs. 2005, The Natural Solutions Foundation: USA.

2. Laibow, R.E., "Neutraceuticide" and Codex Alimentarius: The death of nutritional medicine. Alternative & Complementary Therapies, 2005. 11(5): p. 223-229.

3. Codex Guidelines for Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements. [cited July 10, 2008]. Available from:
(http://www.chfa.ca/media/pdf_files/Code...)

4. Stockholm Convention on persistent organic pollutants. [cited July 10, 2008]. Available from: (http://chm.pops.int/)

5. Federal Register: October 11, 1995 (Volume 60, Number 196). [cited July 10, 2008]. Available from: (http://www.fda.gov/oia/IH_policy.html)

6. Central America Dominican Republic Free Trade Agreement. [cited July 10, 2008]. Available from: (http://www.wola.org/index.php?&option=c...)

7. Laibow, R.E. Natural Solutions Foundation Codex Commission Report. [cited July 10, 2008]. Available from: (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/)

8. Laibow, R.E., Dispatch #9 - Post-Codex Video #5 from Dr. Laibow: Propelling us into the future. [cited July 10, 2008]. Available from: (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.p...)

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A little more information.

I really cant bellive there are not more on the Codex as this is they way they will take the population from 6-3 billion people!

lookfar

05-10-2008, 12:54 PM

Hi free_soul

This is a very important area & needs much exposure. I've signed the petition - thanks for sharing:)

Do you mind if I edit the title of this thread to include "E-petition"? There are quite a few threads about this and some members might overlook it as a repeat of them (as I very nearly did just now:o)

time_lord

05-10-2008, 02:40 PM

Thanks Free Soul. I was afraid people had forgotten about this ticking nuclear bomb. What with the financial terrorism going on at the moment, you’d think it was set up as a distraction. :rolleyes:

uloodara

05-10-2008, 03:18 PM

Why id be happy to sign :D

Done and Dusted :cool:

Pce

zero1

05-10-2008, 03:19 PM

Yes, I remember watching those videos on Ewtoob a while back. It is shocking what they are doing to food in many places...

tracker

05-10-2008, 03:54 PM

free_soul

06-10-2008, 11:20 PM

free_soul

06-10-2008, 11:23 PM

it does not serprise me at all .

i have always known that the food inustry and drug companies have always been two arms of the same body .

murderers / vampires / man killers and child killers .
all govern the food and drug industry !

there are no other words for them .

Exactly you could say, same shit different smell.

I think that the Gold company and oil company are pairs hence the term "black gold" and when water is privatised i wont doubt it will be the oil barons cashing in on "blue gold"

The water is also linked with the drug companys which are linked to food.

In other words were all fucked up the arse by a sideways barge pole lol.

metatron

07-10-2008, 12:32 AM

Hi
Thanks for the heads up on this one.

I have have just signed this e-petition..... a very important issue that definitely needs a lot more exposure.

Also I have emailed family and friends and urged them (gently mind :) ) to sign it too. There cannot be too many signatories on this issue in my opinion.

I just hope theres enough to make a difference and help stop this fundamentally evil piece of legislation!!

Mo0n5tar

07-10-2008, 06:14 PM

bump

mikethepunk

07-10-2008, 07:37 PM

I have been taking vitamins and supplements for years. When I don't take them I feel like crap. the fact that my right to take them is going to be violated infuriates me. I am thinking I need to stock up big time but I can't afford to buy too much. One thing I noticed is that many, many lower cost and better vitamins have been removed from the shelves throughout the past 5 years. Once I heard about the Codex thing, I completely understood. This is just disgusting. These criminals that have hijacked our world will be held accountable. We need some Aliens on our side to help us. Since the criminals all ready have one race of Aliens helping them (see the William Cooper thread in the Conspiracy researcher section off the David Icke Official Forum page here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37921

I mean they really need to help us, not just telepathically or whatever. We need some first contact, we need some higher advice on how to take down these criminals that have hijacked our world. This Codex crap scares the shit out of me but I refuse to submit to that fear.

Are there any petitions for the USA on this matter?

bob_jones

07-10-2008, 11:37 PM

Look out for Aspartame is almost all Vitamin-C in Tesco etc.

shellygurrrl

08-10-2008, 12:01 AM

Well, I'm not a British resident so can't sign, but great thread! I recently found out about Codex and it is truly frightening!

jhado

08-10-2008, 06:24 AM

Signed.

drael

08-10-2008, 09:50 AM

Is this being slightly exaggeratted:

All advice on nutrition (including written online or journal articles or oral advice to a friend, family member or anyone) will be illegal

Or does this mean saying "i think bananas are good for you" will land u in jail?

WHO cant arrest people can it?

If this info is true it certainly is scary, even if exagerated!

truthcommission

08-10-2008, 10:31 AM

Signing petitions although well intentioned does fuck all.

We need to take back the health and well being of ourselves from these corporations.

This world belongs to us.

frankanne

08-10-2008, 11:18 AM

Signing petitions although well intentioned does fuck all.

We need to take back the health and well being of ourselves from these corporations.

This world belongs to us.

how do we do that, when the majority of people support 'these corporations'?

Us few minority can boycott, petition, whatever,but as long as the MAJORITY of people support, comply, co-operate, collude, and go along with the NWO agenda, us 'few' seem to have little input.

Any suggestions?

truthcommission

08-10-2008, 11:39 AM

Any suggestions?
We need to start to setting up our own self sufficient projects and coming together. Human beings have an amazing ability to adapt to certain circumstances. At the end of the day it comes down to your natural human instinct not what you have been indoctrinated by corporations.

If the system were to collapse (which it looks like it will) most people will head for the shopping mall thinking that all that nicely packaged food will provide for them. But for how long?

Think long term survival ....

alfrmo

08-10-2008, 11:44 AM

this is very interesting, and very scary stuff! I will be signing the petition, does anyone out there know of the input of the British Government into supporting the agenda of Codex Alimentarius? and what about the EEC? would appreciate some info! Cheers.

Mo0n5tar

08-10-2008, 02:27 PM

Is this being slightly exaggeratted:

Or does this mean saying "i think bananas are good for you" will land u in jail?

WHO cant arrest people can it?

If this info is true it certainly is scary, even if exagerated!

I think the point that we are being hit with msg/aspartame, glucose fructose and e-numbers, sprayed with chemtrails, pollution from cars and above all drinking unclean water is not exaggerated, and this is about them limiting the food supply while creating fake shortages, don't be surprised to see people who are speaking out against these issues, against G.M foods and against the Pharmocratic inquisition getting harrased, detained etc..

krakhead

08-10-2008, 06:13 PM

Signed :)

keystone

08-10-2008, 10:51 PM

Pass the soma someone?

hagbard_celine

10-10-2008, 08:04 PM

Just signed it.

grenadene

11-10-2008, 11:57 PM

signed :)

sickleblade

13-10-2008, 12:14 AM

signed it days ago.

this makes me want to vomit.

what sick twisted people they really are, and it saying even more so how we should wake up and take them down, or at least try.

now im gettin abit exited sozl ol

dolphinswink

13-10-2008, 03:06 AM

I signed it some time ago myself.

Not to sound naive or anything, but will signing a petition actually make any difference in reversing this law that is to take effect next Dec?

hw spartan

13-10-2008, 05:50 AM

I signed it some time ago myself.

Not to sound naive or anything, but will signing a petition actually make any difference in reversing this law that is to take effect next Dec?

hahaha sign the devil away
when they got written in stone to cull the population to around 500,000,000
good luck with petitions:eek:

Here is what is written on the Georgia Guide Stones in 8 languages:
link
http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/browse_thread/thread/753b0ade3de84c18

ok il start a thread:)

snowee

13-10-2008, 02:23 PM

Signed up.

-snowee-

pduffy4

15-10-2008, 02:10 PM

Signed, thanks.

unusual_suspect

15-10-2008, 08:56 PM

sweheretic

08-11-2008, 10:21 PM

the codex and microchipping are the two biggest refuse-at-all-costs plots they've got so far.

I don't have much faith in signing a petition, making noise should work alot better. Go to health stores and point out that they'll be out of business in a few years and ask them to check it out and then try to tell their customers that vitamins might just not be around when they need them later on. Print out leaflets with some general info with good links on them. People got the attention span of roughly 1½ seconds so make sure to make it simple enough for a bloody goat to get the picture.

Or something. Btw Codex-threads should be sticky imho.

patrish

10-11-2008, 07:04 AM

signed...........

I think we are all going to have to dig for victory - grow our own produce and share with each other.

Patrish x

justiceuk

10-11-2008, 04:57 PM

Well, I'm not a British resident so can't sign, but great thread! I recently found out about Codex and it is truly frightening!

Yeah you can... you have the same problem in the States and Canada. The c-51 bill was just fought by thousands - so the govt amended that application and resubmitted it as C-52. Go to Liabow site and see the links there.
BUT DO NOT DONATE MONEY! Thats another story... :eek:

hagbard_celine

10-11-2008, 08:22 PM

signed...........

I think we are all going to have to dig for victory - grow our own produce and share with each other.

Patrish x

If necessary. If you keep your garden clean of chermicals for 3 years (I think) you can get it passed by the Soil Association. Even if you haven't got a garden you can grow some veg in a windowbox.

catfood

10-11-2008, 09:10 PM

Iv signed. guess they now have a useful list of the first people that are to be sent to the Nutritional awareness camps.

hagbard_celine

10-11-2008, 09:33 PM

Iv signed. guess they now have a useful list of the first people that are to be sent to the Nutritional awareness camps.

SSH!:eek: Don't give 'em ideas!:D

free_soul

12-11-2008, 08:35 PM

I signed it some time ago myself.

Not to sound naive or anything, but will signing a petition actually make any difference in reversing this law that is to take effect next Dec?

Nah it will get passed anyway the masons and un will make sure of that lol.

It shows them that we are paying atention.

infin8_possibility

20-11-2008, 10:37 AM

I signed the UK petition...

US Petition here
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=184

alternative_answer

21-11-2008, 08:21 PM

A little more information.

I really cant bellive there are not more on the Codex as this is they way they will take the population from 6-3 billion people!

Is it ok to put this info on my website, I will add credits for it where necessary.

free_soul

26-11-2008, 09:09 AM

Are there any petitions for the USA on this matter?

There will be a US link soon asked a MOD :)

free_soul

26-11-2008, 09:13 AM

Signed :)

The thing is tho'. Since first hearing of this a couple of years ago, I have tried to wake people up to this, they either don't care, and don't seem to realise the ramifications of Codex. Or they smile in an annoyingly patronising manner and tell me that something like this will not be allowed to happen.

Does anyone else feel like pulling their hair out? Someone I know even declined to sign a this petition 'cause their name might be stored - wtf! :confused:

I's time to get some 'erbs on the go before it's too late :)

I know what you mean i try and warn people about this and all i really get in return is somethink along the lines of.

"That aint going to happen, bet you heard it from that David Icke bloke, youll be saying its all the reptilians fault next"

I hate it even when i show them the website and they can see the pestisides (the ones banned for beeing too dangerous) they can't see it!

Sometimes i think whats the point we probably wont be able to aford to eat anyway by next december lol.

size_of_light

26-11-2008, 01:09 PM

There will be a US link soon asked a MOD :)

Link to the US petition is now embedded (imbedded?) in the OP.

free_soul

09-12-2008, 11:42 PM

Look out for Aspartame is almost all Vitamin-C in Tesco etc.

Not just in vitamins but in alot of "modern medicine"

lizzy

11-12-2008, 05:47 PM

I signed the UK petition...

US Petition here
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=184

Hi there ;)
signed the usa one a while back and this as an expat. Thanks.

infin8_possibility

11-12-2008, 06:05 PM

Hi there ;)
signed the usa one a while back and this as an expat. Thanks.

Whats expat.?

lizzy

11-12-2008, 06:09 PM

Whats expat.?

I am a Brit who lives in the States , so I sign with US address selecting ex-patriot catagory.

infin8_possibility

11-12-2008, 06:10 PM

I am a Brit who lives in the States , so I sign with US address selecting ex-patriot catagory.

OK cheers, I did not know that...

quail

24-12-2008, 12:39 PM

Hi, Check out pringles packs, I thought they don't taste as nice as the use to and took at look at the ingredients.. at the bottom in brackets after the protein content is written 'Codex Alimentarius' I nearly fell over:eek:

free_soul

24-12-2008, 02:11 PM

quail

24-12-2008, 02:36 PM

Just had a check on ours and nothing... yet!

Hi, it is a tub from a twin pack, maybe some are newer stock than others?

free_soul

24-12-2008, 04:44 PM

Hi, it is a tub from a twin pack, maybe some are newer stock than others?

Oh right not sure when these are from lol just pringles :P

vince2468motorway

21-01-2009, 04:49 PM

I sent this e-mail to Bill at codex uk today...

Perhaps i will get a reply..

Hello Bill...

I have been hearing quite a lot of bad publicity about the codex alimentarious organisation to the effect that it is preparing to make the aquisition of many herbs and minerals difficult to obtain come the end of 2009

Would you be so kind as to clarify the situation as regards this negative publicity?

I particularly have an interest in the supplement of powdered vitamin c..

Do you find this substance to be non beneficial to the human race?
If so what are the grounds for you to come to this conclusion?

I for one have come to realise the benefits of this substance and its ability to re-claim human health over the years .

As the human body has lost its ability to create this substance through the evolution process, Combined with the fact that g.m.o foods contain very little or no vitamin c, It poses the question....
Where is the source of vitamin c to come from if codex manages to phase out this substance?

Obviously, It dosent take much imagination to understand the effects this will have on the western population .

I trust my concerns are unfounded and you will come back to me with an explanation.

Yours,,,

ANY COMMENTS ON THIS WOULD BE APPRECIATED...

vince2468motorway

21-01-2009, 05:45 PM

Dear Vince,

There is no truth in the stories and rumours that the Codex Alimentarius
will have any drastic effect on the sale and use of vitamins and minerals.
Codex has no plans to phase out vitamin C.

The Codex Alimentarius Commission, comprising over 100 member countries,
endorsed draft guidelines on vitamin and mineral food supplements in 2005.
You should note that these are guidelines and not rules. In the EU, the
provisions in Directive 2002/46/EC have more of a bearing on what can and
cannot be used in supplements. Annexes to the Directive list which vitamins
and minerals can be used in food supplements (vitamin C is of course
included), although others can be used provided they were in food
supplements within the EC when the directive came into force and there is a
favourable decision by 31 December 2009 following the European Food Safety
Authority's assessment of a scientific dossier.

Of greater significance to you could be the impending proposals from the EC
Commission on maximum levels of vitamins and minerals to be used in
supplements or to fortify food. It is not yet known whether they will
propose a maximum level for vitamin C but it is not on the cards to phase
out or otherwise ban vitamin C.

I hope this explanation is clear. By the way, I too take a vitamin C tablet
each day.

Bill Knock
EU and International Strategy
0207 276 8183

I GUESS THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE WORDING HERE THAT MAY GIVE RISE TO IMPLEMENTING THEIR PLANS ANYWAY,, MAKE OF IT WHAT YOU WILL.

HERE IS BILLS E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WANT TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS..

CODEX UK ACTUALLY ANSWERED MY E-MAIL WITHIN HALF AN HOUR.

Bill.Knock@foodstandards.gsi.gov.uk

BE SAFE EVERYONE.

hagbard_celine

22-01-2009, 11:38 AM

Well done for asking anyway, Vince.:)

I'm not satisfied by any reassurances the organization could give. We hear them all the time! Thalidomide was thought of as safe at one point!:eek:

tonymac

09-02-2009, 12:15 AM

I've signed the UK petition to the prime minister.

I hope many more people will do so.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

free_soul

09-02-2009, 09:38 AM

I've signed the UK petition to the prime minister.

I hope many more people will do so.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

We do have alot of signitures when i first started this thread there were a mere 300 and now were are in the thousends, it is getting out!

jim fear

11-02-2009, 02:08 PM

I've Signed

NO ONE TOUCHES MY VITTY C! :mad:

free_soul

11-02-2009, 03:50 PM

I've Signed

NO ONE TOUCHES MY VITTY C! :mad:

The best way is to ignore the law, however they will take it all away :(

They are not just on about vitamin tablets but also vitamins inside food too

jesuitsdidit

11-02-2009, 04:51 PM

signed

moggy

14-02-2009, 05:40 PM

My apologises if someone has already posted this topic in another thread but I only found out about Codex Alimentarius a few weeks ago.

Recently Codex Alimentarius have made proposals for the restriction of the presently freely available herb/vitamin/mineral food supplements within the UK. If these proposels from Codex Alimentarius are made law then every UK citizen would only be allowed to obtain food supplemennts on a subscription basis.

There is a petition running here (http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vitamins/) on the uk goverment website if anyone wants to sign it. There are almost 10,000 signatures already, and once this number is surpassed the prime minister has to respond.

opaquelens

03-03-2009, 01:53 AM

I've signed the petition. I think I should mention this in my podcast too. I wouldn't put it past those criminally insane bastards to smile whilst killing us. They'll probably be eating 'illegal' food whilst smiling too.

decided

05-04-2009, 03:43 AM

This is the organization we ought to join and support. They are really working on our behalf.

http://www.anhcampaign.org/?action=register.member

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOVICmEfQtE

Please be very careful about Rima Laibow & her husband Gen. Albert "Bert" Stubblebine III -

http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-moderngeneral.html

http://www.ymlp167.com/pubarchive_show_message.php?jham+579

hagbard_celine

07-04-2009, 04:26 PM

tattooverb

07-04-2009, 04:38 PM

How Organic is Organic?
Codex Alimentarius Cohorts Wage War Against Food

by Verb

Take a moment to pause and consider what it is you are eating on a daily basis. More and more people are trying to consume a healthy diet these days. Just what constitutes a healthy diet is a matter of great contention. Many including myself contend that limiting your exposure to pesticides, food additives and genetically modified (GM or GMO) foods is a good start and thus have begun eating organic foods. In order to eat only healthy natural foods we must first determine, how organic is organic? Will organic and home grown foods be bred and legislated out of existence? What is Codex Alimentarius and how does it and corporate farming threaten bio-diversity, organic farms and even personal allotments or home gardens?

For those of us committed to improving or maintaining our health by eating a balanced organic diet, the agenda of corporate farming and governmental regulations complying with the Codex Alimentarius proposals spell disaster. This not only affects our access and right to additive-free, pesticide-free, industrially produced chemical-fertilizer-free and non-genetically-modified organic foods, it also threatens every participating country's rights of national sovereignty. In the United States of America the new federal food bills also threaten the constitutional sovereignty of the states.

What is Codex Alimentarius? Codex Alimentarius is an organization which works in conjunction with the Food and Agriculture Organization and the World Health Organization, which were all formed by the United Nations. Let's have a look at what they have to say about themselves on their website, http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp. Under the heading 'Understanding Codex Alimentarius' in the very first paragraph of the prefix you will find:
"The Codex Alimentarius, or the food code, has become the global reference point for consumers, food producers and processors, national food control agencies and the international food trade. The code has had an enormous impact on the thinking of food producers and processors as well as on the awareness of the end users – the consumers. Its influence extends to every continent, and its contribution to the protection of public health and fair practices in the food trade is immeasurable."

The reach and influence of Codex Alimentarius is undoubtedly global. There are 180 member countries, including such notables as Canada, the USA, every member state of the EU, Switzerland, Israel, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, China, Japan and Australia. Has this influence done more harm than good? Has the world seen an increase in the availability of healthy food products and fair trade? China is producing toxic baby formula. The USA is trying to legislate seed cleaning and seed banks. Use of toxic food additives like aspartame are increasingly pervasive in common international food products, including those products intended for children. More land is being planted with GM food crops every year.

All of the countries on the continent of Africa except one are members of Codex Alimentarius and a fat lot of good it has done them. There are still slaves used in the agricultural industry in many parts of Africa, most notably the coco industry. Many who work for the big food producing corporations are little better than slaves, not just in Africa. I have personally seen the effects of the large fish canneries in West African Nations such as Ghana and Togo. I have seen the brands on the market shelves in the USA, Europe and Canada while the local Africans dry their small catch on the pavement or smoke it in small community smoke houses, left with barely enough to survive.

Why is it Africans are starving when their governments ascribe to Codex Alimentarius? They are starving because their food is in Western shops for sale and not their own markets. Why are we drinking wines from Africa when those grapes could be dried into raisins and distributed to feed the children of Africa? Many Africans are starving because availability of indigenous hardy plant seeds is reduced and the prices of quality indigenous strains of seeds inflated. Farmers in Africa and all over the non-western world are finding that GM and western plant seeds will not grow properly or at all, particularly when using the traditional farming methods in these areas. Crop failure equals starvation in many agrarian societies and GM crops have been a total failure for many poor farmers. The bottom line is they are starving because both governments and Codex Alimentarius are corrupt and serve not the public interest but the interest of the large multinational corporations, like Monsanto.

In the Western countries the influence of Codex Alimentarius and its corporate cronies is just as pervasive. In the USA more and more restrictive food laws are being passed as I write. A new bill introduced in the house of representatives, H.R. 875: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009, has ominous implications for organic farmers. It also threatens farmers' ability to collect and store their own seeds as they have been doing for centuries. In addition, the American government's refusal to label products containing GM foods means that any food product sold or exported from the USA can potentially contain GM ingredients.

You may be exposing yourself to GM ingredients even when buying organic products. A recent study done by Professors Mark Partridge and Denis Murphy, at Glamorgan University in Wales, detected traces of GM ingredients in 10 of the 25 organic food samples tested. Professor Murphy stated, "We have recently observed that many soya products now carry 'GM free' or 'organic' labels, both of which imply an absence of GM ingredients in these foods. However, most of the soya now produced in the world comes from GM varieties."

Plants in non-GM crops are having their genetics affected by neighboring GM fields. Wind and insect borne cross-pollination is threatening many of the corn species in Mexico. GM pollen has also affected at least one man's honey crop in Germany, causing him to dispose of his harvest and relocate his bees so they would not have access to GM plants.

A wide verity of livestock are fed GM grains and then people eat the eggs, milk products and meat from these animals. If the grain does not need to be labeled GM, how can you be certain you are eating eggs, dairy and meat that are organic?

The world's food supply is under attack due to corrupt governments and organizations like Codex Alimentarius. This is most obvious in Africa, but the signs of encroaching food control can now be seen in almost every nation on Earth. The same institutions that have been set in place to safeguard the public are the very ones who foist unfair trade practices and unsafe foods upon humanity.

Natural foods are essential in order to ensure your own good health and that of future generations. Buy your food from local reputable organic farmers. Where and when possible you should grow your own produce. We must all refuse to accept unreasonable governmental restrictions on organic farms and gardens by actively resisting these laws and bills. Make your voice heard before it is too late. Human beings have the unalienable right to grow and eat healthy foods as well as a right to harvest and store the seeds produced by their crops.

footnotes:
Instead of the usual footnotes I am listing all the researchers, filmmakers and authors who pointed me in the direction of the information above and not only those whose work would normally be referenced in direct conjunction with the information in this article. These footnotes are not only an acknowledgment of the scholarship of the people listed below but also a sincere thanks for their contributions towards the education of all humanity.
thank you:
Ben Stewart
Max Igan
David Icke
Mark Partridge
Denis Murphy
Adriana Stuijt
farmwars.info

Special thanks to my friends Knowthelies and omz13 who helped me edit this essay.

decided

08-04-2009, 02:48 AM

I am a tad suspicious. Stubblebine was involved in psychic assassins and remote viewing. Ian Crane nominated Rima Laibow as possible controlled opposition.

Stubblebine and Rima Laibow are husband and wife.

Ian Crane has stated to be very leery of them.

hagbard_celine

09-04-2009, 02:06 PM

Stubblebine and Rima Laibow are husband and wife.

Ian Crane has stated to be very leery of them.

Yeah, he reckons any money you donate to Laibow will be spent on her own first class plane tickets.:rolleyes::eek:

margaretr

27-04-2009, 09:32 PM

I started the petition to #10.
I have only just found this forum and appreciate the support you have given to it.
I became concerned when, at age 65, I developed health problems which I can reasonably attribute to pharmacutical meds prescribed in the previous 20 yrs.
The NHS regards CFS as incurable - I am curing myself with nutrition therapy.
Codex Alimentarius and the European Food directive threaten my abilty to cure myself. For me, and for others like me, they are in effect passing us a death sentence.
Throughout my internet search for my cure I have been made aware of the conspiracy to cull world population. I am stockpiling food supplements.

I am glad I found this site - I am a believer:)

pipsicle

29-04-2009, 08:38 PM

Recently Codex Alimentarius have made proposals for the restriction of the presently freely available herb/vitamin/mineral food supplements within the UK. If these proposels from Codex Alimentarius are made law then every UK citizen would only be allowed to obtain food supplemennts on a subscription basis.

There is a petition running here (http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vitamins/) on the uk goverment website if anyone wants to sign it. There are almost 10,000 signatures already, and once this number is surpassed the prime minister has to respond.

Indeed. My local healthstore is currently handing out postcards for MP's with the following information on it:-

IN 2009, maximum levels will be set for vitamins and minerals under the Food Supplements Directive. Some countries and big pharmaceutical companies are pressing for very low levels to be set. This will remove thousands of safe and popular food supplements from the UK market.

In 2011, herbal remedies which have been available for centuries will need to complet with the Traditional Herbal Medicinal Products Directive . This requires them to meet inappropriate and expensive pharamceutical testing standards. Small specialist companies cannot afford the cost and will have to remove thousands of herbal remedies from the market unless other routes to market can be found.

So maximum levels fir vitamins and minerals are to be set THIS YEAR.

free_soul

30-04-2009, 01:31 AM

pduffy4

29-05-2009, 10:47 AM

ustane

15-08-2009, 01:18 PM

I signed this petition about an hour ago, I checked back, 102 more people have signed since

hagbard_celine

15-08-2009, 07:25 PM

I signed this petition about an hour ago, I checked back, 102 more people have signed since

Thanks for sending it to me. If I hadn't already signed it I would now:).

mightiswrong

18-08-2009, 12:58 PM

(NaturalNews) ... From the official Codex website (www.codexalimentarius.net) the altruistic purpose of this commission is in "protecting health of the consumers and ensuring fair trade practices in the food trade, and promoting coordination of all food standards work undertaken by international governmental and non-governmental organizations". Codex is a joint venture regulated by the Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO) and World Health Organization (WHO).

If you are a 'consumer' and intend to remain one then you have already given up. Plant your own garden and sign the proactive family food garden petition below and take control over your own destiny.

johan niklasson

21-08-2009, 07:49 PM

www.theflucase.com

alchemiser

22-08-2009, 08:59 PM

margaretr

22-08-2009, 10:47 PM

Thanks for putting all this info up free soul :) Codex is something new to me.

As i have arthritis i take several kinds of vitamins & minerals but it's the fresh organic food i eat that does the most good by a long shot.
This line is what really scares me:

All foods :eek: includes everything we grow ourselves as well if i'm reading it right!

A great way to learn about Codex is to watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrF9KjlGsc - all 5 parts.
She tells of its nazi origins :eek:

I am really astounded by the rate at which signatures have been added to my petition since this thread started...............THANK YOU ALL:D

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vitamins/

alchemiser

26-08-2009, 09:45 PM

A great way to learn about Codex is to watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrF9KjlGsc - all 5 parts.
She tells of its nazi origins :eek:

I am really astounded by the rate at which signatures have been added to my petition since this thread started...............THANK YOU ALL:D

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vitamins/

Thanks for the vids margaretr :)
Can't help but have some fear welling up given just how toxic our food could become, has brought me back down to the physical plane with a bump :(

All signed up as well :D

always_rebel

17-10-2009, 03:46 AM

bump.

margaretr

17-10-2009, 03:40 PM

The petition ended on 5th Sept with 62,240 signatures
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vitamins/
I have had no response from #10 yet

dude111

05-11-2009, 08:38 PM

I have signed (Or i will sign) the petition.....

THIS IS A DISGRACE AND SUPPLEMEANTS SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT TO STAY HEALTHY!!

My question is: WILL WE BE ABLE TO GET AROUND THIS IF IT DOES GO THRU??

In other words if you wanna take 1000 µg daily of Vit D and its limited to 5 µg capsules,could you not take 200 capsules to equal 1000??

loopy2222

13-11-2009, 12:47 PM

I had no idea about Codex Alimentarius until coming on this site. Its a disgrace and very shocking!!

I wish I had been able to sign the petition but only found it after the deadline :(

gilly

22-11-2009, 10:20 AM

I've now unstickied this thread, as the dead-line's been & gone.

dude111

23-11-2009, 07:23 AM

But its still an important matter Gilly,MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE 1 THREAD WITH A COLLECTION OF GOOD LINKS,what do ya think?

janams

27-12-2009, 04:44 PM

Trying to sign this petition - it has now closed BUT there was one against vaccinations which I obviously signed as I'm also against these.

This thread is something that should be out there as I'm sure there are not many people who know this and one I find very scary as I know how much vitamins help against all illnesses so banning them is surely going to have a lot more ill people in hospitals. I for one would rather take the vitamins and try to avoid illness than be ill :confused:

ottolund

04-01-2010, 04:48 AM

Monsanto Patent for a Pig (http://www.navigate3d.no/mbbs22/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1569&start=76#M5144)

The World According to Monsanto (http://www.navigate3d.no/mbbs22/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1507&start=1#M4611)

My conclusion after three years of study, the plan behind the gmo, genetically modified organism, agenda and technology is to destroy or sicken all life and establish a global fascist regime. The thinktank behind is totally cynical, the same as was and is behind the destructive nazi ideology. It lacks empathy and respect for sustainable development completely. It is of utmost importance to understand this. Please forward this information.

With regards from
Otto Lund

http://www.navigate3d.no/images/EightStarIn3DUniverseFramed.gif

Falcons' CAFE (http://www.falconscafe.com/)

ed benzedrine

04-01-2010, 02:49 PM

I had no idea about Codex Alimentarius until coming on this site. Its a disgrace and very shocking!!

No doubt its been posted a few times before, but no harm in giving people another 'prod' in the right direction ...
See Ian R Crane's presentation :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2D4-noTiCg&feature=PlayList&p=A94DF2D32A8661A1&index=0&playnext=1

ufochick

16-04-2010, 11:53 PM

After writing my representative here is the canned letter I got back on this topic.... very very sad...

Dear Ms. Compton,

Thank you for contacting me with your thoughts regarding access to dietary supplements. I appreciate hearing from you about this issue and welcome the opportunity to respond.

I understand that many Americans rely on alternative medicine, including dietary supplements, as part of a healthy lifestyle. In fact, a recent FDA study indicated that 73 percent of American adults use dietary supplements. Today's dietary supplements are not only vitamins and minerals, but also include other less familiar substances, such as herbals, botanicals, amino acids, and enzymes. These supplements can come in a variety of forms, such as tablets, capsules, powders, energy bars, or drinks.

While scientific evidence supporting the benefits of some dietary supplements is well established for certain health conditions, others need further study to ascertain their safety and effectiveness. Unlike drugs, but like conventional foods, dietary supplements are not approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for safety and effectiveness. It is the responsibility of dietary supplement manufacturers and distributors to ensure that their products are safe and that their label claims are accurate and truthful. Once a product enters the marketplace, the FDA has the authority to take action against any dietary supplement product that presents a significant or unreasonable risk of illness or injury.

I recognize that many individuals turn to dietary supplements to assist in the daily health regimen. Additionally, I believe it is important for Americans to know that the supplements they take are safe and without serious side effects. Thus, please know that should legislation regarding this issue come before me on the House floor, I will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind.

Again, thank you for contacting me. It is an honor to serve you in Washington. If you would like more information on issues, or would like to share your thoughts with me via e-mail, you may visit my website at sullivan.house.gov. Please do not hesitate to contact me again should you have further concerns on federal legislation or programs.

Sincerely,

John Sullivan
Member of Congress

dude111

17-04-2010, 04:26 AM

They are just pissed off CAUSE THEY AINT MAKING $$$ OFF OF THESE ALTERNATIVE THINGS!!!!

Your right,VERY SAD........