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1694
03-10-2008, 12:13 PM
Him and Brown don't get on, he has twice been binned for corruption and is being put in charge of business. It's a wank decision but it steals headlines.

What else is going on that isn't getting reported?

I suspect something involving the economic problems of the country.

Ears to the alternative news sources people.

lupus
03-10-2008, 12:21 PM
i suspect Brown's bosses think he's as incompetent as we do and Mandy's there to take a more hands on approach :)

1694
03-10-2008, 12:32 PM
Why would we "the prolitariate" share the views of Browns "pay masters"? What appears incompetence to us is him doing the bidding of powerful special interest groups rather than what is honestly whats good for the people.

homebrew1973
03-10-2008, 12:38 PM
If that wasn`t bad enough former defence secretary Geoff Goon is the new transport secretary, as if our public transport system isn`t in a big enough mess already... :(

lupus
03-10-2008, 01:08 PM
1694: i agree to an extent that seeming incompetence can just be pandering to "special interest groups" but I really think Brown is in a tight spot right now, and that they need Brown's superior looking over his shoulder, their planning is after all quite fragile

drhemp
03-10-2008, 01:16 PM
The ptb are also preparing for Cameron to take over, so they don't care if Labour make unpopular appointments to the Cabinet that would not be vote winners for Labour.

lupus
03-10-2008, 01:19 PM
i wonder how we can subvert democracy so that people instead of voting "tory" or "labour" actually manage to effect some kind of reform of society to one in which the lizards are not in control and human beings are instead

1694
03-10-2008, 01:19 PM
I concur, last bilderburg all british political members were Conservative.

EDIT: Apart from Mandleson who was down as an Internationl Representative as at the time he wasnt in British politics.

1694
03-10-2008, 04:29 PM
Maybe he isn't a distraction.

Second block of names, 4th up from the bottom:
http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=9770

stelios
04-10-2008, 05:36 AM
Mandy is one of the most evil, cunning, nasty characters around.
Gordon Brown has broughthim back because he is desperate and ready to deal with the devil.
But Brown himself is a nasty piece of work too, just that he is a moron whereas Mandy is more cunning.

Just make sure we kick them out when the election comes.

halftheworldaway
04-10-2008, 08:08 AM
I concur, last bilderburg all british political members were Conservative.

EDIT: Apart from Mandleson who was down as an Internationl Representative as at the time he wasnt in British politics.

There's acres of column inches dedicated to Mandelson's return in the UK newsapapers but not one journo thinks it's newsworthy that a British minister attended Bilderberg four months ago.

Cynics might believe that they don't want the sheople to know.:p

sukyspook
04-10-2008, 09:46 AM
Mandy is one of the most evil, cunning, nasty characters around.
Gordon Brown has broughthim back because he is desperate and ready to deal with the devil.
But Brown himself is a nasty piece of work too, just that he is a moron whereas Mandy is more cunning.

Just make sure we kick them out when the election comes.

I agree - however I guess broon has already signed away his soul to the devil.....both of these creeps are nasty pieces of work.

I am gobsmacked at the arrogance of broon and his handlers - they're spoiling for a fight with 'we the people' and pretty soon they're probably going to get one - if people can put down their burgers, beer cans and find their remotes to turn the tv off....sigh.

Both of these creeps are unelected - broon as PM and mandy isn't even an elected MP!!! THIS IS FASCISM!!

Perhaps Ruth Kelly saw this coming which is why she's not just off as a 'minister' but as an MP too - hope she 'sees the 'true light' of just what Opus Dei is too.....

Mandy HAS to be a diversion - it's certainly stirring up a hornets nest as far as I'm concerned. Note the party line: Global financial crisis. These 'people' are peeing their pants in anticipation of their new world odour and their part in it.....little do they know that shortly they will all be unceremoniously dumped once their usefulness is exhausted.....

Imho it's no coincidence that broon is PM at this time - what many call the 'End Times' before the antiChrist appears - who has only ONE EYE!!!!
Ah the illuminati and their little 'in' jokes!!!

hawks29
04-10-2008, 11:07 AM
i wonder how we can subvert democracy so that people instead of voting "tory" or "labour" actually manage to effect some kind of reform of society to one in which the lizards are not in control and human beings are instead

This may not be as hard as it seems given that in the last elections over 50% of the country didn't vote. At this moment in time if a party could get some air time with some common sence politics then they stand a great chance of causing an upset. sadly they cant get air time

hokhmah
04-10-2008, 12:00 PM
In all the newspapers, in response to questions about why he has done this, Prime Minister Gordon Brown says he wanted to "reinvent government" - well haven't 'they' been doing this all along? Why can't the sheeple voters who vote these 'gangsters in pinstripe suits' into positions of power see through all the bullshit?

It's clear that people are well and truly pissed off with puppet Tony Blair's legacy of bloodshed and mass murder, and with 'global global global' Gordon Brown, Dawid Miliband and Co. and there is an urgent need to appease the people because civil unrest and disatisfaction with the politicians / government is beginning to stir and gain momentum here. The hidden PTB want David Cameron and his ILL-uminati-agenda-lapping cronies elected into power in the next UK general election, to achieve this appeasement.

Peter Mandelson's return is being described as a "masterstroke" - yes, a masterstroke to 'wilfully steer' British voters into NOT voting for the Nu Labour crew.

Interest free loan on the taxpayers, or fudged UK passport application anyone?...

stelios
04-10-2008, 06:22 PM
Since Labour came to power in 1997 over 5 million Brits have emigrated.
And meanwhile an equal if not larger number of immigrants have come into Britain.
In the past expat Brits were still allowed to vote in Uk elections.
But i have a feeling it is not so easy anymore because they are now updating the electoral register every year and removing people from it even when they are still living in the same house and have not gone anywhere.
Like they did to the UKIP donor.
Meanwhile visitors from Europ are allowed to join the register and vote in UK elections.
Proudly able to state their nationality on the voter registration form.

So the fact that Mandlesohn is now back may have more to do with Brown wanting to carry out some kind of voter fraud.

Dont forget in the Scottish elections voting machines supplied by Neil Kinnock were used to count the votes and over 100,000 votes went missing.
The SNP should have won by a landslide but Labour voter fraud cost them dearly.

titan
04-10-2008, 06:53 PM
mmm Mandy

He was on the Barroso Commision....not keen on them.

I heard it was him who was behind the rose logo....rosicrusianism is one take on it that I've read.


Yeah, Global Meltdown?, there's no coincidences in politics.

krakhead
04-10-2008, 06:59 PM
Is Mandleson a distraction?

In so many fucking ways! I cannot stand the simpering, lying twat.

How's that for cutting socio-political insight for ya?

;)

bob_jones
04-10-2008, 07:14 PM
Since Labour came to power in 1997 over 5 million Brits have emigrated.
And meanwhile an equal if not larger number of immigrants have come into Britain.
In the past expat Brits were still allowed to vote in Uk elections.
But i have a feeling it is not so easy anymore because they are now updating the electoral register every year and removing people from it even when they are still living in the same house and have not gone anywhere.
Like they did to the UKIP donor.
Meanwhile visitors from Europ are allowed to join the register and vote in UK elections.
Proudly able to state their nationality on the voter registration form.

So the fact that Mandlesohn is now back may have more to do with Brown wanting to carry out some kind of voter fraud.

Dont forget in the Scottish elections voting machines supplied by Neil Kinnock were used to count the votes and over 100,000 votes went missing.
The SNP should have won by a landslide but Labour voter fraud cost them dearly.

Yes. I live in Carmarthenshire and I can tell you that Tony Blair and Peter Mandleson gerrymandered the referendum for the Welsh National Assembly.
The popular view was that people did not want more politicians.
But if Scotland voted yes to devalution and Wales voted no there would be embarrasment for Tony Blair.
The last county to announce the result was Carmarthenshire.
The result was delayed for several hours "for damatic effect" while Blair and Mandleson were up late.
It is during this delay that a load of proxy votes came in from Mr.M.Mouse and Dr.D.Duck etc. that changed the result from No to Yes by a few hundred votes.
I did blackmail £1 billion for Wales in match funding from Gordon Brown to keep my mouth shut about it but I am in no mood for Brown and his part in bogus terrorism. It would be reasonable to be able to have a dump without my guts dropping out with bio-warfare terrorism if he wanted to keep my end of the deal.
Never take a bribe. Never give into blackmail. The old saying goes.
They forgot the never take a bribe bit and so give in to blackmail all the time.
That is not the way to be powerful.

krakhead
04-10-2008, 07:19 PM
It is during this delay that a load of proxy votes came in from Mr.M.Mouse and Dr.D.Duck etc. that changed the result from No to Yes by a few hundred votes.

Have you any sources for this claim?

bob_jones
04-10-2008, 07:26 PM
Have you any sources for this claim?

My ex-cop grandfather told me about the proxy votes coming in last minuite.
He is now dead.
But the nephew of one of the returnig offices that worked in the career's centre in Swansea University told me about the announcing of the result being delayed for several hours "for dramatic effect".
So if it wasn't to change the result from NO to YES and so swing the referendum for the whole of Wales why did they delay the announcing of the result?
Unless you accept that it was for "dramatic effect". Ha ha ha.:D

krakhead
04-10-2008, 07:27 PM
My ex-cop grandfather told me about the proxy votes coming in last minuite.
He is now dead.
But the nephew of one of the returnig offices that worked in the career's centre in Swansea University told me about the announcing of the result being delayed for several hours "for dramatic effect".
So if it wasn't to change the result from NO to YES and so swing the referendum for the whole of Wales why did they delay the announcing of the result?
Unless you accept that it was for "dramatic effect". Ha ha ha.:D

So, to summarise, that's a no.

;)

seercirra
04-10-2008, 07:56 PM
Him and Brown don't get on, he has twice been binned for corruption and is being put in charge of business. It's a wank decision but it steals headlines.

What else is going on that isn't getting reported?

I suspect something involving the economic problems of the country.

Ears to the alternative news sources people.

well, theres the english bailout for starters.
the 1.2 TRILLION... POUND!! deal. thats about 2.4 trillion dollars. it totally dwarfs the US bailout. and its spread across a population about 1/4th of americas.

oh and the money goes to the rothschilds (ofcourse)

drhemp
04-10-2008, 07:58 PM
Yes. I live in Carmarthenshire and I can tell you that Tony Blair and Peter Mandleson gerrymandered the referendum for the Welsh National Assembly.
The popular view was that people did not want more politicians.
But if Scotland voted yes to devalution and Wales voted no there would be embarrasment for Tony Blair.
The last county to announce the result was Carmarthenshire.
The result was delayed for several hours "for damatic effect" while Blair and Mandleson were up late.
It is during this delay that a load of proxy votes came in from Mr.M.Mouse and Dr.D.Duck etc. that changed the result from No to Yes by a few hundred votes.
I did blackmail £1 billion for Wales in match funding from Gordon Brown to keep my mouth shut about it but I am in no mood for Brown and his part in bogus terrorism. It would be reasonable to be able to have a dump without my guts dropping out with bio-warfare terrorism if he wanted to keep my end of the deal.
Never take a bribe. Never give into blackmail. The old saying goes.
They forgot the never take a bribe bit and so give in to blackmail all the time.
That is not the way to be powerful.

Voter fraud under Labour is nothing new. Dirty tactics and not playing by the rules is endemic within the Labour Party. Winning elections at all costs is their number one priority, the views of the actual electorate is their bottom.

Occasionally, they get caught out, and they lay a few sacrificial lambs to the slaughter, as was the case in Birmingham, although, they should have made every result null and void, however, they only forced a re-run in a couple of wards -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4406575.stm
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/election2005/archives/2005/04/04/labour_shamed_by_voting_fraud.html

It has also been alleged voter fraud took place in the Sedgefield constituency to prevent Reg Keys from unseating Tony BLiar. Election monitors declared the election "far from free and fair" after it emerged that a police investigation into vote-fraud allegations were stopped by higher
authorities and a group of Sedgefield residents claimed that they saw election officers switch poll boxes as they were loaded to the backs of the delivery vans. Opinion polls taken in Sedgefield also indicated BLiar would lose his seat, yet strangely BLiar was actually returned with an increased majority.

David Shayler was going to stand in Sedgefield against BLiar, but stood down to back Reg Keys, he did some canvassing in Sedgefield and reckoned he couldn't find a single person who said they were going to vote for BLiar.

It wouldn't be acceptable to he NWO for Bush's closest ally and chief supporter of the Iraq War to lose his parliamentary seat (and therefore the premiership of GB), so no doubt, they simply switched some ballot boxes to ensure the snake kept his seat.

alfrmo
04-10-2008, 08:55 PM
Mandelson is sure one of the most repugnant, odious charachters in politics, even the idiots who advise Brown cannot see him as a vote winner, there must therefore be more behind his appointment, very powerful and influential politician who must have been foisted upon Brown by PTB in order to further the wishes of the financial masters, in there agenda for United Europe.

tyler
04-10-2008, 10:15 PM
I think you are right. This creep has spent so much time in Brussels living it up with the real elite.

ryethorpe
04-10-2008, 10:50 PM
Mandelson. Mandeloffspring. Persondelson. Persondeleteoffspring. Return Of The Zombies, Look Out There's A Monster Coming ... Kinnock... Thatcher... Foot... Heath... Hattersley... Callaghan... Mosley... Thorpe... Griffin... Horatio Bottomley... Brown... Cameron... aaarrrggghhh

Look Out There's A Monster Coming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HeEFxgktVg&feature=related

truthsayer
04-10-2008, 10:58 PM
Mandy is one of the most evil, cunning, nasty characters around.
Gordon Brown has broughthim back because he is desperate and ready to deal with the devil.
But Brown himself is a nasty piece of work too, just that he is a moron whereas Mandy is more cunning.

Just make sure we kick them out when the election comes.

I would have to agree. Mandy got Labour in power in 1997 and Brown needs him to keep him in power. The current reshuffle is simply to place Browns supporters in the right place and ensure that those 'dis-loyal' are less of a threat to his leadership.

It also looks like Brown will is going to make us wait to 2010 for a general election.

hokhmah
05-10-2008, 03:16 PM
Look Out There's A Monster Coming!

Peter Mandelson, once labelled the Prince of Darkness?

nah, more like the 'Queen' of the Damned... he's used hundreds of thousands of UK taxpayers paying for the 'rent...'

bob_jones
05-10-2008, 06:15 PM
I know from my source that will remain anonymous that Peter Mandleson had been spreading it about in Brussels that I have a little dick just like Napoleon and encouraging eurocrats to laugh at my expense.
However I do not have premature ejaculation and so do not have to shag my frumpy humpy five times a night.
(Music)
Once, twice, three times a lady. And then there's Cherie.
But at small one is an asset if you only want to jab a Brazilian toy boy's backside I guess.
(Music)
He’s a fighter not a quitter and he takes it up the sh**er - Mandy Man.

But seriously I am told that even the middle ranking Brussels officials think nothing of taking a half a million euros kickback for awarding a contract to a particular firm.
It’s the norm in Brussels.
It’s not about value for money it’s about feathering your nest.
You could get the sack from British Steel if you accepted as much as a free biro from a company you gave a contract to.
So what is the tendering process about?
Giving work to the best bidder or the one that bids the highest bribe?

bob_jones
05-10-2008, 06:18 PM
So, to summarise, that's a no.

;)

To sumarise it is a yes and both independent sources said different things independently that both lead to the conclusion of electoral fraud.
But if you want to mis-read deliberately then carry on.