But why do they want a world Government ?

[fuggles]

I accept that the NWO might want a world government etc etc with a world army etc etc, but for what reason ??? What reason do they actually want to do this for ?

If every country overnight suddenly submitted to them and gave away all their power to them and accepted the microchip, it would be a bit of an anti climax. So mabe they want to do it with a bloody war because they simply love war and are power crazy ?


Thoughts?

[disorder2k8]

Sooner or later the world needs to stop bickering, become united and get out into the cosmos.

Its about time.

Sadly its not being led by example.


It would be beneficial to have a one world system, but one built on the understanding and acceptance of individual nations and not by force.


Humans really need a kick up the arse either way.

Do you really want to be stuck on this planet fighting over land and resources?

[marpat]

Sooner or later the world needs to stop bickering, become united and get out into the cosmos.

Its about time.

Sadly its not being led by example.


It would be beneficial to have a one world system, but one built on the understanding and acceptance of individual nations and not by force.


Humans really need a kick up the arse either way.

Do you really want to be stuck on this planet fighting over land and resources?

I agree with this. There has got to be a time when people have united. I would have thought that such world unity would be a natural stepping stone before humanity could seriously progress to being a space travelling race.

[fuggles]

Yer, david Icke talks about world government like its a bad thing, which is probably why I dont understand it.

So what if the world is heading towards a world government, what point is David Icke trying to make ?

[fromthatshow]

I can't understand the motivations of the illuminati at all.
All that they do brings more unhappiness upon themselves. All that they do is running further away from themselves. Once they have everything, then what? What if they had control over the entire universe, and could have anything and everything they wanted? They would not be satisfied. What would they do then? Kill themselves?

[fuggles]

So they want a world Government and total control ?

Why ??

And what would they do when they had this ???

And why does david icke say it like a bad thing,???

Its impossible to understand and Im not exactly looking for answers to the questions, I just want people to think about it.

[fromthatshow]

And what would they do when they had this ???


Exactly. I bet not one of them at the top has ever stopped to really think about what accomplishing this will do.

[bagatell]

Why, why, why? Who knows. I think they are of Vogon descent and simply like death and destruction. That they are here and are making govenments do awful things cannot, however be denied. But the problem with national governments is that they are hard to choreograph. If there was a world govenrment the carnage and mayhem would be so much more artistic.

[kblood]

I agree with this. There has got to be a time when people have united. I would have thought that such world unity would be a natural stepping stone before humanity could seriously progress to being a space travelling race.

Exactly. Before taking the step to do space travel, we need to unite. Hopefully it wont happen in the way the NWO makes it out, but I do hope it will happen so that we can combine our efforts even better. The highest technology developed today is hidden away, because of distrust to the world. The cold war and probably many years of our history on this planet has shown how much we distrust each other. It seems to be even more so today though, although it is getting better in some ways as well.

Still it seems obvious that our technological level is way beyond what mainstream media makes it to be. Some kinds of science is even kept secret and ridiculed, probably to make sure these secrets around discovered.

If all that stops, our technological progress would go skyrocket :)

[zero1]

1) SO they can crown a God-King of the World

2) SO they can be rulers in a world regime

3) SO they can plunder the Earth without fetter and be rich beyond dreams

4) SO they can militarize space and expand into the Cosmos

5) SO they can present a united front to other species encountered in the Universe

And SO on...

[1694]

Because then who could stop them?

[marpat]

1) SO they can crown a God-King of the World

2) SO they can be rulers in a world regime

3) SO they can plunder the Earth without fetter and be rich beyond dreams

4) SO they can militarize space and expand into the Cosmos

5) SO they can present a united front to other species encountered in the Universe

And SO on...

Is this not part of a unfied world? somebody would have to be in control, making the decisions, etc. You can either organise or remain disorganised on a global level. The fact is nations are becoming aware of how dependent they are on other nations for various resources, etc.

I think some of your comments are nothing but paranoid fear.

[kappy0405]

I dont think the goal of a NWO is neccessarily a bad one, thats debatable. Its what they are doing and have been doing for centuries to reach that goal. Killing off millions of people, simply because one country doesnt agree with whatever they want them to agree with, wanting to microchip all of us so they can track us, etc etc... Nobody is truly free as it is, and it will get worse over time. Being controlled isnt a good thing, is it? Simply put, these guys are clinically insane. I dont think there needs to be a better explanation than that. ;)

In a perfect world, everybody on this planet would realize that we are all just inhabitants of planet earth, practically a speck of dust in the universe, and the idea of us being divided due to what part of that speck of dust we live on is absurd. We would all live free, and all contribute to do our share, and we would all get by. It would be anarchy, not chaos, but order without control.

Unfortunately, people ARE running things and have been for as long as we can go back, and the people doing that are insane and only want to control. Its not for the betterment of mankind, although they may think so, its for their own benefit, and as a result of all this nonsense, the human race as a whole has evolved into the most corrupt species possible, so the 'perfect world' could not possibly exist for a long time if ever; the people who feel they have 'divine right' to control are the most corrupt of all.

Isnt that reason enough for it to be a bad idea? I think so..

[drael]

Well i dont think we need to be ruled by goverments at all, we do however need some form of organised defense. Im thoroughly opposed to anyone deciding anything for anyone else. Freedom should be a birthright, after all no one knows anything. If nothing is known, how can someone rule?

As for the ptbs motivation, well is supposed to have been originally religious, the idea of personal godhood through dominion of others. However i doubt there is even much cohesion in the elite in this regard anymore. Many have become lustful psychopaths of various kinds, which is actually the opposite of their religion, which calls for detachment. Theres military and economic power, media power and other forms of power outside of their spirituality which has become as important as goals.

So maybe, once they wanted a nwo, now their too busy holding onto their gold bags to really care - and fighting with each other over what they want.

Either way, i doubt in their present state of mind, that is taking satisfaction in the suffering of others and their own personal gains, that the nwo with chips and all would be the least bit satisfying to them.

Whats that from family guy and simpsons "ive grown accustomed to your face!"

[cruise4]

A one world GOVERNMENT would be very bad. That is a completely differnet thing to statements such as 'One world systems' or 'people of the world working together'.

If you see yourself as Gods of a New Age or Architect's of Destiny and believe in trashumanism, cyborgs and genetically altered everything then culling the old to make way for the new makes perfect sense, let alone the increased security they would then enjoy whilst engaging in their sick and twisted perversions.

"so the 'perfect world' could not possibly exist for a long time if ever"

I am convinced we could turn things around in no time flat. Whether we ever get the chance is another question altogether. I am suspecting the people will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into freedom, equality and peace, metaphorically speaking. Despite claiming this is their aim they always choose methods that are certain to result in the very opposite outcome. It's very strange.

[mauviene]

Globalization is imperative for human development - but the current incentive that moves the process is corrupt. The idea to unite the world under a global empire with limited freedoms and a micro chipped population to stifle rebellion is completely irrational. Obviously the guys who pull the strings aren't diabolical as much as they are insane - I think they do believe their doing the right thing but their means in achieving the goal needs reforming.

A more effective method that would need to be followed in order to attain peace and unity would be to destroy all governments and have a one world security system implemented and maintained through the global free market. It's always been governments that have screwed everything up and it always will be; even when theres just one. Taking away freedom and liberty is taking a huge chunk out of human development and potential and is completely idiotic on behalf of those in power if their really looking to benefit the human race.

I do believe we will see the disappearance of freedoms in the years to come, and I do think within our life times the bearers of truth and liberty will find it in their souls to emerge from their slumber and besiege the kings of corruption. I hope the means for regaining sovereignty do not require violent defense, but I do believe all those who have images of a beautiful future for humanity within their hearts would find that letting that hope decay in apathy and pacifism would be a greater evil than fighting for its birth.

[zero1]

Is this not part of a unfied world? somebody would have to be in control, making the decisions, etc. You can either organise or remain disorganised on a global level. The fact is nations are becoming aware of how dependent they are on other nations for various resources, etc.

Er, yes. So?

I think some of your comments are nothing but paranoid fear

I'm a big-picture kind of guy, it can seem that way to you perhaps...

[oiram]

I think a one World System for all sounds good!One World Government sounds like & smells like manipulation & corruption!Why is the Elite like this? Hmm!
Can you understand a Religious fanatic?= I can not!
Do you understand Satan? = I can not!
Expose is like asking a Christian why he believes in Jesus & why he goes to Church! The only answer you will get is I only believe in Jesus!
That's the problem in my view they don't do Jesus way!!

The Elite is different & will answer; we the assholes believe in Satan & we do Satan's ways!
Thats why they are one step ahead of the only believers ! :D
Here is one of my post talking about the global problem:I understand his point but I'm not sure exactly what God has to do with Government.Religion supposedly teaches believers that God expects them to do what is right. Pastor Mary Tate points our that voting for the lesser of two evils clearly isn't right. She expects that anyone who actually says that s/he is a believer should not compromise on principle and seems to suggest that believers need to look to the third parties that are much more palatable to most Christian teaching. Let me add that Muslims, Christians and Jews would actually find a great deal of common ground among some of the alternative parties.Personally for me "people having different believes is not a problem at all" but my logic & personal experience tells me that all Religious Organisations & Government Organisations are two of the lesser Evil & going hand in hand & supporting each other to fulfil there overall Evil general agenda!
No doubt there are some very opened minded & good Christians but they usually don't end up in Church Organisations every Sunday to receive the newly updated programming & indoctrination!
For me believing means absolutely nothing and is irrelevant in my book; but implementing & DOING a positive believe on a personal level means everything!Here are my special believers examples:
I believe in Jesus/Gods ways but I lie?
I believe in Jesus/Gods ways but I steal?
I believe in Jesus/Gods ways but I manipulate?
I believe in Jesus/Gods ways but I am jealous of my neighbour?
I believe in Jesus/Gods ways but I don't show my man, woman & child respect?
I believe in Jesus/Gods ways but I give false witness?
I believe in Jesus/Gods ways but I don't respect the freedom of others?
I believe in Jesus/Gods ways but I use others to have personal gains?
I believe in Jesus/Gods ways but I corrupt?
I believe in Jesus/Gods ways but I kill & murder on orders.......etc.. etc ...etcMaybe this is only my reality but this is what I see, feel, hear & live with every day all over the World!
So what is wrong with you all don't you know the Truth??
Bush, Chaney & ALL Co. including all congress people would say SO FUCKING WHAT WHO CARES! "NOT US!!"

How could anyone except Satan & his ways disagree that these are not Gods ways!
So what are they teaching in Church, for whom are they working... definitely not for God like ways!

People which really believe will never ever use there mouth to make there point; they will give you prove & show you by DOING; because DOING & FEELING is the only thing which equals the REAL TRUTH!

You know why people don't know the TRUTH because they only talking big holes into the air & don't DO & FEEL the TRUTH!

Talking & Doing are two different Universes one is belong to Satan the other one is Gods Universe!

People who need to talk LOVE don't know what real LOVE & TRUTH is!
You can not talk respect because you only can show it!

So the next time anyone tells you that he Loves you tell him to shut the heck up and instead shows you the Reality & real Truth of there meaningless words only! ;)

Full stop period end of school no more discussion needed!
No need for any rhetoric to correct this error & misfits by saying they are not all like this because the exceptions don't need correction to there behaviours!
I Love the Truth & Truth is me!
You like me to show you; because I know that talking does not work ever .... ever !
. . . . .Do I believe in God or Jesus?
"NO NEVER EVER!" because I only; "DO!"
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Note: . . . . The answer which logically only can be found by DOING!
Pontius Pilot asked the question, to Jesus "What is truth?"
Jesus did not reply! . . . . . . . . But do you know Why??
Because the Truth; don't need to be spoken! "Truth is Doing not talking!"
"This is Reality if you live it!"
I do! & I Love you all too; because I showed & proved it to You!