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verbal
02-10-2008, 03:53 PM
I live in Las Vegas so it's been a few minutes...

David - That was one of the most beautiful, genuine, inspired, free, and complete expressions I have ever encountered (and I've been out the house once or twice). Congratulations! Thank YOU!

sade
02-10-2008, 04:00 PM
Did he talk anything about the bailout???
Tell us a little!

verbal
02-10-2008, 08:01 PM
Let's see... I can't remember the exact organization of the ideas, but here's one possible breakdown:
Create a problem: create housing bubble by granting person's credit well beyond their means. (Blame mortgage brokers?)
Reaction: People buy homes they can't afford with loan terms they don't understand - in pursuit of the American Nightmare. And subsequently default on the loans - due to credit/cash imbalance. e.g. extend $500,000 credit into economy. release $200,000 cash into economy - hmmm, gonna have a tough time paying of that credit extension.
Solution: $700 billion bailout - private profit from bubble, social loss from bust.

You can slice it and dice it at countless levels of analysis but it all comes down to this:
The bailout is a final money grab by the peak of the pyramid (Gov't and above) to put some distance between themselves (the masters) and the massive numbers of rich slaves. (e.g. big difference between 700 billion and 700 thousand (or even 700 million)). Why? Consider:
As things are, the masters have lost quite a bit of power and control to the upper echelons of the slave hierarchy. There are huge numbers of slaves with enough capital to influence fairly large segments of society without the consent of the masters. The bailout enables a conduit through which enough money can flow to create a significant gap in total wealth held by the masters and the total wealth held by rich slaves. Sooo what? Rich slaves are still rich and plenty satisfied?
That will only be true until the economy (regardless of bailout) inevitably collapses (coming soon to a theatre near you!). To fix the defunct economy, the American Union and the Amero. To make the monetary unit change, we will all have to trade our US Dollars (physical & electronic, Canadian Dollars, Mexican Pesos, etc.) for Ameros. To give the illusion that the change has curbed inflation, lets say for every 100 USD, you get 1 Amero. Consider: Joe 2yr Professional Degree makes a good living and has sacked away $700,000 (just starting to see that compound interest take off). After the collapse, this is the total of what he has. When he trades his dollars in for Ameros, he's coming home with a$7,000 (really not far above jack-s__t). Now consider the Master: whith his cut of the bailout money (which got kinda, shall we say, "lost" in the collapse) he walks into the Amero Banc. He has one billion dollars. In truth, that's a hell of a lot more than $700,000. But in practice, from the perspective of 99% of the world, both men are basically rich moth__ ___kers. So our master trades in his billion and gets 10 million Ameros. He still has much more $ than our rich slave, but something has changed. Master has 10 million, Rich Slave has 7,000 - Now there's only ONE rich moth__ ___ker. To re-establish this gap between masters and slaves - That is where all the $ goes. $ from the corporate rip offs, tax scams, S&L bailout, disaster relief funds, social security, insurance bailouts, airline bailouts, gov't coke dealing, banks/wall st. bailout, simply running the presses at the mint, typing in an extra zero here and there. In post collapse American Union, there will be no Ron Paul cash bombs, no independent film companies, no independent media broadcasts of any kind. Simply because we can't afford it. No gov't censorship or propaganda monopoly here. Just a bunch of fat n lazy Americans who don't earn enough to live on. This is how it will work.
Fortunately, Americans are not just fat and lazy. We enjoy spicy Mexican food, (sorry Canada, I don't eat much polar bear, nor baby seals), still call french fries - French Fries, can appreciate a quality box of wine, know that steak is better rare than well done, that chicken tastes better than turkey, and if you don't eat enough fiber/real veggie greens, you're gonna fill up with poo and look like you're pregnant. Americans are also strong willed, determined (i.e. stubborn), compassionate, creative, brave, and love to be an underestimated, underdog. Enough people have awakened - and awakened to the truth that THERE IS ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY. Fear's biggest fan is 'premature' death - sickness, starvation, exposure, US military. These are no longer justifiable causes for pain, suffering, death, and fear. We have the technology and resources to wipe all four of them out. Apparently, we don't have the money. ...and there's A CREDIT CRUNCH! and if you beLIEve that, I have some great opportunities for you... Ever dreamed of making $5k/mo.? $7,000 per month? 10 thousand? how about 20? WELL YOU CAN! and you can start earning that money TODAY! Just read my 1-page e-pamphlet and your life will change FOREVER! SECURITY! RELAXATION! VACATIONS! TRAVEL THE WORLD! Imagine driving your car (or shall I say Ferrari!) just for pleasure... not in bumper to bumper traffic for an hour and a half just to get to work... ...where you pound away 8 hours for virtually nothing. Only to drive bumper to bumper for another hour and a half, to get home just in time to kiss your children good night (the one in blue is the boy). And you know what? You can do it again tomorrow if you want to? If it really was that fulfilling? Did i say want to? duh... Have To. OR YOU CAN READ MY E-PAMPHLET AND LEAP ONTO THE ROAD to FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE! ...oh yeah, and your military, yes citizen, YOUR military has killed 100's of thousands of innocent people in the middle east over the last 7 years. I'm sorry, did you miss that... HUNDREDS... thats H-U-N-D-R-E-D-S of T-H-O-U-S-A-N-D-S of INNOCENT PEOPLE. Some estimates are much higher. Look again: 100,000 200,000 300,000... you have never even counted to 100,000. And if you say you have... yeah, i beLIEve you. (credit: i got the "beLIEve" thing from Chris Angel). So how does one swallow their share of the birthday cake celebrating the murder of even 30 people? 300? 3000? 30000? 300000? 3million? Eat it. Its yours. Now do something about it. Even if that is nothing more than shedding a single tear. At least it's a start.

Whoa! That one got away from me a bit eh? A note to the reader: Being an American, I tend to slip into speaking to an American reader. I hope you can still relate. Not that I'm so Americentric, just that universal PC language gets rather tedious sometimes.

Well, that's the 700 billion dollar bailout! LOL
love
-v

tyler
02-10-2008, 10:11 PM
Yeehaaaaaa! Goldarn it that was one helluva post!

Thanks buddy.

thenightmare
02-10-2008, 10:21 PM
Cool, you got me interested in that pamphlet. You know where i can get it?

Nice post by the way.:)

bagatell
02-10-2008, 10:26 PM
Another penny just dropped. Thank you. The same thing will happen when the pound is swapped for the Euro.

lottie
02-10-2008, 10:28 PM
Glad you enjoyed it verbal!!

Your avatar's bit scary!! lol

doyouknowyourdead
02-10-2008, 10:34 PM
yeah, the last bit there was great sarcastic advice not just for americans, but really for all westerners.

interesting discussion with the crash/bringing of the amero.

if US citizens will be screwed with a hypothetical rate of $100/amero, imagine what los amigos pobres down south will have to deal with....

hopefully when the shit hits the fan (or before), we can get our revolution on for reals.

verbal
03-10-2008, 02:02 PM
Hi. Thanks folks for the kind words. I guess David inspired me a bit last night, hence the not-so-focused release post. It really pleases me to know that just one person feels my perspective. Ya know? On the good days it must be rather ecstatic for David - knowing that he's making sense to so many while exploring the edges of his experience. It's in all of us really, just different paths... OOOOhhhhh, the avatar. I dunno if I have ever mentioned this around here, but it is a rather bizarre story. Here's the Cliff's Notes version:

As June 6, 2006 (666) and people started to talk about it, in a private moment in my car I spoke out to the whatever it is, ...it. And I asked, "Is there anything to this 666 stuff? or is it just a scare tactic or what? I would really appreciate some sort of sign on the matter." Well, that's a picture of me on 6/6/6 - au natural. no contacts, no tricks, no effort made on my part, no B.S. Probably one of the largest, "HUH?" experiences I'll ever have. At least IT has a sense of humor! ...I know... it is me, i enjoy my sense of humor and so, blah, blah, blah. It's not as stimulating from that perspective :)
David/staff: Did you enjoy the "This is how it works." I threw into that second post? That's one of my ways of saying thanks. Thanks. That's another. ***Actually I said"this is how it will work"- close enough for gov't work.
Cheers,
-v

verbal
03-10-2008, 02:43 PM
if US citizens will be screwed with a hypothetical rate of $100/amero, imagine what los amigos pobres down south will have to deal with....
Glad you mentioned our Mexican friends (and the remainder of central & south america - but the Mexicans really get a special Di__ in the as_ since they're right next door), I think about their role quite a bit...
First off, hermanos(as), Thank you for providing the back that the USA was built on, and is maintained with. Hecho en Mexico.
And the Amero exchange rate :-) lets go with the $100/1 Amero example. What are Mexicans gettin? lol The same thing they've gotten from us for around 300 years. If you've ever seen the refrigerator box city in Juarez next to El Paso TX, then you'll understand why when the American Union and the Amero are introduced, most Mexicans will likely say, "Whatever." and just go back to digging.
And a final note for the staunch, nationalist American types: After the 12 native Americans living in Arizona (there may be 5 others living up in the Dakotas) the people of Mexico are the closest descendants and arguably the rightful heirs to the blood stained land we're sitting on this very moment. THE PEOPLE WE CALL "ILLEGAL ALIENS" ARE THE VERY PEOPLE WE SLAUGHTERED AND TOOK THIS LAND FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Understand though: I'm NOT saying to pack your bags and move back to where ever. Nor that you are responsible for the atrocities of the past or that you should bear any guilt. What I AM saying is to show a little respect for the truth, the history, and the people living right next door to us. Remember, the one's who dug your swimming pool and vacuum your house on Wednesdays? ...and don't speak english and slammed into your Mercedes without car insurance - well, nobody's perfect...
Love
-v

samkinison75
03-10-2008, 04:46 PM
Well I am gettin out of the zion land as the people here are just totally fucking brainwashed. Getting out of this place will hopefully be my good start again. Good post by the way there V. I really wished I could make the Los Angeles David Icke event. That really would of been killer.

Fucking bastards trying to sink this country even further........I mean what taxes don't we fuckin pay for already? NO means NO, I thought as the vote for the bailout was declined on Monday, but no.......those weasel fucks have to get their panties in a bunch and see to it to get the bills passed to pass the bailout. I don't know, its strange and I am really fucking pissed off. People need to realize that democrazy has been a myth for quite sometime and that the people do not run things......as should be totally obvious.

Arrrgggghghhh!!!!!

jos08
03-10-2008, 08:19 PM
Let's see... I can't remember the exact organization of the ideas, but here's one possible breakdown:
Create a problem: create housing bubble by granting person's credit well beyond their means. (Blame mortgage brokers?)
Reaction: People buy homes they can't afford with loan terms they don't understand - in pursuit of the American Nightmare. And subsequently default on the loans - due to credit/cash imbalance. e.g. extend $500,000 credit into economy. release $200,000 cash into economy - hmmm, gonna have a tough time paying of that credit extension.
Solution: $700 billion bailout - private profit from bubble, social loss from bust.

You can slice it and dice it at countless levels of analysis but it all comes down to this:
The bailout is a final money grab by the peak of the pyramid (Gov't and above) to put some distance between themselves (the masters) and the massive numbers of rich slaves. (e.g. big difference between 700 billion and 700 thousand (or even 700 million)). Why? Consider:
As things are, the masters have lost quite a bit of power and control to the upper echelons of the slave hierarchy. There are huge numbers of slaves with enough capital to influence fairly large segments of society without the consent of the masters. The bailout enables a conduit through which enough money can flow to create a significant gap in total wealth held by the masters and the total wealth held by rich slaves. Sooo what? Rich slaves are still rich and plenty satisfied?
That will only be true until the economy (regardless of bailout) inevitably collapses (coming soon to a theatre near you!). To fix the defunct economy, the American Union and the Amero. To make the monetary unit change, we will all have to trade our US Dollars (physical & electronic, Canadian Dollars, Mexican Pesos, etc.) for Ameros. To give the illusion that the change has curbed inflation, lets say for every 100 USD, you get 1 Amero. Consider: Joe 2yr Professional Degree makes a good living and has sacked away $700,000 (just starting to see that compound interest take off). After the collapse, this is the total of what he has. When he trades his dollars in for Ameros, he's coming home with a$7,000 (really not far above jack-s__t). Now consider the Master: whith his cut of the bailout money (which got kinda, shall we say, "lost" in the collapse) he walks into the Amero Banc. He has one billion dollars. In truth, that's a hell of a lot more than $700,000. But in practice, from the perspective of 99% of the world, both men are basically rich moth__ ___kers. So our master trades in his billion and gets 10 million Ameros. He still has much more $ than our rich slave, but something has changed. Master has 10 million, Rich Slave has 7,000 - Now there's only ONE rich moth__ ___ker. To re-establish this gap between masters and slaves - That is where all the $ goes. $ from the corporate rip offs, tax scams, S&L bailout, disaster relief funds, social security, insurance bailouts, airline bailouts, gov't coke dealing, banks/wall st. bailout, simply running the presses at the mint, typing in an extra zero here and there. In post collapse American Union, there will be no Ron Paul cash bombs, no independent film companies, no independent media broadcasts of any kind. Simply because we can't afford it. No gov't censorship or propaganda monopoly here. Just a bunch of fat n lazy Americans who don't earn enough to live on. This is how it will work.
Fortunately, Americans are not just fat and lazy. We enjoy spicy Mexican food, (sorry Canada, I don't eat much polar bear, nor baby seals), still call french fries - French Fries, can appreciate a quality box of wine, know that steak is better rare than well done, that chicken tastes better than turkey, and if you don't eat enough fiber/real veggie greens, you're gonna fill up with poo and look like you're pregnant. Americans are also strong willed, determined (i.e. stubborn), compassionate, creative, brave, and love to be an underestimated, underdog. Enough people have awakened - and awakened to the truth that THERE IS ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY. Fear's biggest fan is 'premature' death - sickness, starvation, exposure, US military. These are no longer justifiable causes for pain, suffering, death, and fear. We have the technology and resources to wipe all four of them out. Apparently, we don't have the money. ...and there's A CREDIT CRUNCH! and if you beLIEve that, I have some great opportunities for you... Ever dreamed of making $5k/mo.? $7,000 per month? 10 thousand? how about 20? WELL YOU CAN! and you can start earning that money TODAY! Just read my 1-page e-pamphlet and your life will change FOREVER! SECURITY! RELAXATION! VACATIONS! TRAVEL THE WORLD! Imagine driving your car (or shall I say Ferrari!) just for pleasure... not in bumper to bumper traffic for an hour and a half just to get to work... ...where you pound away 8 hours for virtually nothing. Only to drive bumper to bumper for another hour and a half, to get home just in time to kiss your children good night (the one in blue is the boy). And you know what? You can do it again tomorrow if you want to? If it really was that fulfilling? Did i say want to? duh... Have To. OR YOU CAN READ MY E-PAMPHLET AND LEAP ONTO THE ROAD to FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE! ...oh yeah, and your military, yes citizen, YOUR military has killed 100's of thousands of innocent people in the middle east over the last 7 years. I'm sorry, did you miss that... HUNDREDS... thats H-U-N-D-R-E-D-S of T-H-O-U-S-A-N-D-S of INNOCENT PEOPLE. Some estimates are much higher. Look again: 100,000 200,000 300,000... you have never even counted to 100,000. And if you say you have... yeah, i beLIEve you. (credit: i got the "beLIEve" thing from Chris Angel). So how does one swallow their share of the birthday cake celebrating the murder of even 30 people? 300? 3000? 30000? 300000? 3million? Eat it. Its yours. Now do something about it. Even if that is nothing more than shedding a single tear. At least it's a start.

Whoa! That one got away from me a bit eh? A note to the reader: Being an American, I tend to slip into speaking to an American reader. I hope you can still relate. Not that I'm so Americentric, just that universal PC language gets rather tedious sometimes.

Well, that's the 700 billion dollar bailout! LOL
love
-v
waoo you seem right on the edge. You are making a lot of sense though. The more I look into this dictatorship the less sensitive I become in hating them too. Lets try to make everyone aware of this crap they are pulling over our eyes.
Peace

verbal
04-10-2008, 08:25 AM
Well I am gettin out of the zion land as the people here are just totally fucking brainwashed. Getting out of this place will hopefully be my good start again.

Where are you going? Im collecting ideas. I feel like i kinda stuck here in vegas as i've grown accustomed to the warmth and to living at night. I have a relatively successful biz, kids, but you never know. When the poop hits the fan I may have to go to Atlanta. but yeah, where are you headed?

Good post by the way there V. I really wished I could make the Los Angeles David Icke event. That really would of been killer.

You have no idea. The theatre was old, but supremely elaborate. In the relative pee-hole of downtown LA. speaking of pee hole, the bathroom was down like 3 flights of stairs in this veritable dungeon. pretty nasty as far as restrooms go. But the dirty, thrashed, ultra-ornate combination gave the event a bizarre underground feel. The balcony was very large and VERY steep. A burgandy look to the scene. The place was PACKED. And packed with every walk of life you can dream of. The diverse mix of people and the love (not the gay kind, but the hip powerful stuff) shared was beautiful. On the phone at intermission the only way I could describe the crowd was to say they were "people". Actual, real, genuine people. Although I must admit, I didn't see one "normal" person there. Not to say that normal people even exist, but you know... back to the packed house of freaks. So Im up in this HUGE STEEP balcony level, yes, packed full of people waving their programs in the air. There was not a single air duct, ceiling fan, floor fan in this place. All the doors were open to the outside but there was NO breeze. It must have been 150*f in there. Pretty much standing room only was actually a blessing. I could move around for different views, walk out the side doors and smoke or use the phone ...or breathe... it was very bohemian, I guess you could call it that. I didnt have any expectations of what the crowd would be like, nor realize that having that many genuine people in one place would be different than an average, non-violent crowd. But it was WAY different. People looked you in the eye and acknowledged your existence without needing to try to intimidate or impress you in some way. People smiled when you caught their eye, without looking away. People tried to not get in each others way (that was a biggie!) Lastly, the energy of the space was different. I'm not sure how to characterize it, but I think it was due to the lack of fear? Neat stuff. I think as the number of aware people continues to grow, the apathy that currently stifles most individual and collective spontaneous displays of freedom and unity is going to fade. There is definitely hope for the world. Until the poo really starts to go down, we can vitalize our beings with the 10 Pee's: Power, Progress, Preparedness, Publicity, Picnics, Patience, Perseverance, People, Potatoes, and P(preferred genitalia here).


Fucking bastards trying to sink this country even further........I mean what taxes don't we fuckin pay for already? NO means NO, I thought as the vote for the bailout was declined on Monday, but no.......those weasel fucks have to get their panties in a bunch and see to it to get the bills passed to pass the bailout. I don't know, its strange and I am really fucking pissed off.

My final disillusionment. I had a brief moment of hope when the house shot the bill down. I guess the big boys (senate & exec & finance) weigh an awful lot. I'm really not one for cussing, but FUUUUCK! I didn't expect to win the game or anything, I just didn't want them to score another goal as time ran out...

People need to realize that democrazy has been a myth for quite sometime and that the people do not run things......as should be totally obvious.
Arrrgggghghhh!!!!!

Democrazy - Love it! I call it our mockery of democracy. I think what contributes to much of the stupidity is that so many Americans are basically being paid off to be docile - or at least being promised to be paid off shortly if they remain docile. I say this because, man, anyone making $100k+ per year (actually even less but to be safe...) is making A LOT of F'IN MONEY and is leading a pretty pleasure filled existence. And frankly, I can understand how difficult it would be to not support the system, corrupt as it may be, that made all the privileges you enjoy, possible. I'd love to have that problem eh?
In final, yeah, It's pretty disheartening. One might say even infuriating. But all said and done... so what. F 'em. Worst case scenario we've got a little over four years left. I can say that with confidence because if I see 1/1/2013 and I'm still dealing with this B.S., I promise, I'm takin all the mot___ ___kers out! It's kinda like we're nearing the end of the summer after 8th grade and all we have to do is make it through High School. Heck, Jr High is about to start! Time for sex drugs and rock n roll!
-v

jmmk
04-10-2008, 09:10 PM
This is some great stuff here, about the people coming together to see David
Icke . I wish I could've been there, but I live on the East coast. As far as all
of the people who make loads of money and have a closed mind to all of this,
they're the ones who are losing out. I'm grateful actually that I'm poor and
live simply, otherwise I might been sucked totally into the matrix like them.
However, if I happen to win the lottery, now that I'm enlightened and free,
I'll use the money wisely and even help us (Ickesters) on our quest. LOL