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cleft_asunder
14-05-2007, 07:39 AM
Things are REALLY fucking bad. I mean really really really bad. This is it folks; the worst times you can imagine and you're living it. We're in hell, and the NWO is like the ultimate version of it. I'm going to repeat that: We're in hell Humanity is getting fucked in the ass and it's taking it because of the little pleasure it feels, too stupid, blind, scared and inferior to even notice who's doing the pounding. I have no faith in humanity right now. I know that's defeatist and dismal, but the stupidity level in this country is beyond belief. Most people, when asked at a college campus what year 9/11 took place, didn't know. How can I have faith in humanity when I know that the controllers are a race that is VASTLY more intelligent then us, and because of this have been manipulating the micro and macrocosm of this planet like a game of X-COM. I mean just think about it: They see down on everything like a tactical map, manipulating everything 24/7, while humanity is so focused on the trees, that they can't see the rest of the forest. I couldn't do it justice to tell you have bad our perspetive is on things.

This awakening thing, I sure hope to God it's happening. I asked people if they feel that an awakeing is happening, but what the hell does feeling mean anyway? I think many of us would like to believe that feeling is intuition, but it's not. My definition of feeling is emotional. You read something and it invokes a certain emotion, and that emotion is heavily based on individual bias. (i.e. the Israeli soldier felt a surge of good feeling after seeing the Palestinian womans hijab torn off.) So when we read the good news Icke feeds us about a gauranteed awakeing --and yes the voice does say to him that there is no stopping the awakeing-- we feel good about it because we're tired of the shit. So we sit on our asses and we wait for the shit to hit the fan? Ummm, that's what we do, don't lie. When someone tells you that awakeing is guaranteed, you will take me as a fool if you told me that you get up and start taking action. The fact of the matter is that we want to believe it. I'm guilty of that. But how many of us KNOW what he says is true? I'm not talking about the lower-level conspiracy here. That stuff can be verified through research, which is intellectual. I'm talking about a future awakeing which we can't KNOW will happen unless our intuition or inner self knows it, or some shit like that. So how many here experience that? How many here KNOW that an awakening is happening or will happen? I don't. I've just been placing my faith in Icke in regards to that, but now I must admit that I can't simply just believe him hust because the rest of his info is true. All I can do is hope he's right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ktgl0tcsXg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etruthorlies%2Eorg%2F

truthcommission
14-05-2007, 08:31 AM
cleft - I oscillate from absolute despair in the human race to believing that there WILL be a change on a cosmic scale whether we like it or not.

I do see signs of awakening and cracks in the NWO. Any system that is built on such huge lies CANNOT last.

ho1ogram
14-05-2007, 08:45 AM
I've heard about this awakening thing people go on about... sounds like their waiting for a saviour or something.

If you wanna wake up, wake up. There's no time like the present.

king
14-05-2007, 08:47 AM
Things are REALLY fucking bad. I mean really really really bad. This is it folks; the worst times you can imagine and you're living it. We're in hell, and the NWO is like the ultimate version of it. I'm going to repeat that: We're in hell Humanity is getting fucked in the ass and it's taking it because of the little pleasure it feels, too stupid, blind, scared and inferior to even notice who's doing the pounding. I have no faith in humanity right now. I know that's defeatist and dismal, but the stupidity level in this country is beyond belief. Most people, when asked at a college campus what year 9/11 took place, didn't know. How can I have faith in humanity when I know that the controllers are a race that is VASTLY more intelligent then us, and because of this have been manipulating the micro and macrocosm of this planet like a game of X-COM. I mean just think about it: They see down on everything like a tactical map, manipulating everything 24/7, while humanity is so focused on the trees, that they can't see the rest of the forest. I couldn't do it justice to tell you have bad our perspetive is on things.

This awakening thing, I sure hope to God it's happening. I asked people if they feel that an awakeing is happening, but what the hell does feeling mean anyway? I think many of us would like to believe that feeling is intuition, but it's not. My definition of feeling is emotional. You read something and it invokes a certain emotion, and that emotion is heavily based on individual bias. (i.e. the Israeli soldier felt a surge of good feeling after seeing the Palestinian womans hijab torn off.) So when we read the good news Icke feeds us about a gauranteed awakeing --and yes the voice does say to him that there is no stopping the awakeing-- we feel good about it because we're tired of the shit. So we sit on our asses and we wait for the shit to hit the fan? Ummm, that's what we do, don't lie. When someone tells you that awakeing is guaranteed, you will take me as a fool if you told me that you get up and start taking action. The fact of the matter is that we want to believe it. I'm guilty of that. But how many of us KNOW what he says is true? I'm not talking about the lower-level conspiracy here. That stuff can be verified through research, which is intellectual. I'm talking about a future awakeing which we can't KNOW will happen unless our intuition or inner self knows it, or some shit like that. So how many here experience that? How many here KNOW that an awakening is happening or will happen? I don't. I've just been placing my faith in Icke in regards to that, but now I must admit that I can't simply just believe him hust because the rest of his info is true. All I can do is hope he's right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ktgl0tcsXg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etruthorlies%2Eorg%2F

Hang in there and keep driving the truth wedges into the walls of lies.
NWO is destined to fall.

i think that seed of awakening is planted and is growing

There is a reason why all of us are here, at this time.

i_am
14-05-2007, 09:41 AM
NWO is destined to fall.

i think that seed of awakening is planted and is growing

There is a reason why all of us are here, at this time.

I believe you are right.

And I believe not only are we here at this time for a reason but, through groups such as this, we are no longer alone, battering our heads against a brick wall. Our voices are growing stronger and our knowledge base is astounding.

Cleft, take a break when you feel despairing. Go out and enjoy yourself, enjoy nature and see that there is still beauty out there.

thirdwave
14-05-2007, 10:42 AM
of course people will wake up.... at least those who are meant to will...

You only need to bring the subject up to come and they know what you are talking about stright away ..even if they are playing ignorent.... but people are lazy and will only do somthing if they have to.... so they are going to end up having to wake up in order for them to wake up....

a pitty, but its their call...

winstonsmith
14-05-2007, 11:51 AM
An awakening is happening. I've been meeting people from all walks of life lately that have either awoken to the truth or are in the process of awakening to it. People that I never would have expected to question the 'official' version of reality are starting to do so. The frequency of these encounters is increasing by the day. That can only be a good thing...

lightbeing
14-05-2007, 11:59 AM
Well I get the feeling the awakening is happening, albeit slowly, even my wife has said the odd thing lately that may be her 'egg shell' cracking a bit!:eek:
But I think something big will have to happen to make this wakeup really hit the 'bigtime', 9/11 looks like it will meltdown pretty soon........
But for me, the biggest wakeup for the masses would be thousands of ET craft appearing all over the world, this is on the cards by my feeling........................

peter19
14-05-2007, 12:03 PM
good post cleft. i hope they is an awakening, i want to "awaken" and maybe that is a sign that there will be others who want too. but yeah fear,lazyness,ect comes in and it might stop you from awakeing to certain levels. people think because we know certain info like 9-11 is an inside job ect that you are know longer a sheep as icke calls people who follow other people, but to me i worry what other people think sometimes,get anxiety over fuck all, and i wouldnt describe them states as awake, more so sheepishly.

"peace for peace" do you agree with that mate?. fundamentally i thinks its right, you need to be in a state of peace to get peace. but what if that leads to on minor levels - me neibour as just smashed me car, peace for peace, i wont say nothing, its only a car man, - now they have come to me house with there mates, kicked the door in poured petrol all over me house and burnt it down, peace for peace, keep your head in that sand ect. me point behing that i want peace but when do your draw the line?. another example if you were at school and there was a bully who picked on you and everyone else, know one is going to get peace until someone stands up, and says something/does something.

wideawake
14-05-2007, 12:48 PM
Im wideawake:p Sometimes though I wish I could go back to sleep. I felt something happening over the last few weeks and it's the reason I'm on this website. Some people can handle it better than others though. In fact I don't think I like what is happening at the moment and I don't know what to believe.

But there seems to be alot more on TV lately about stuff I have been reading. I don't know wether it's cos I'm looking for it or because it's just there and coincidence. If it is all conincidence then it an effing strange one.
Perhaps this is it:eek:

ho1ogram
14-05-2007, 01:17 PM
Coincidence is the world talking to you (imo)... I've found if I pay attention I'm able to read life better... as the universe is essentailly a reflection of yourself you're actually talking to yourself... it's like your spirit or whatever getting the attention of your conscious mind. That's what I've found anyway and I go with them... wherever the wind takes me.

tru3
14-05-2007, 02:32 PM
Things are REALLY fucking bad. I mean really really really bad. This is it folks; the worst times you can imagine and you're living it. We're in hell, and the NWO is like the ultimate version of it. I'm going to repeat that: We're in hell Humanity is getting fucked in the ass and it's taking it because of the little pleasure it feels, too stupid, blind, scared and inferior to even notice who's doing the pounding. I have no faith in humanity right now. I know that's defeatist and dismal, but the stupidity level in this country is beyond belief. Most people, when asked at a college campus what year 9/11 took place, didn't know. How can I have faith in humanity when I know that the controllers are a race that is VASTLY more intelligent then us, and because of this have been manipulating the micro and macrocosm of this planet like a game of X-COM. I mean just think about it: They see down on everything like a tactical map, manipulating everything 24/7, while humanity is so focused on the trees, that they can't see the rest of the forest. I couldn't do it justice to tell you have bad our perspetive is on things.

This awakening thing, I sure hope to God it's happening. I asked people if they feel that an awakeing is happening, but what the hell does feeling mean anyway? I think many of us would like to believe that feeling is intuition, but it's not. My definition of feeling is emotional. You read something and it invokes a certain emotion, and that emotion is heavily based on individual bias. (i.e. the Israeli soldier felt a surge of good feeling after seeing the Palestinian womans hijab torn off.) So when we read the good news Icke feeds us about a gauranteed awakeing --and yes the voice does say to him that there is no stopping the awakeing-- we feel good about it because we're tired of the shit. So we sit on our asses and we wait for the shit to hit the fan? Ummm, that's what we do, don't lie. When someone tells you that awakeing is guaranteed, you will take me as a fool if you told me that you get up and start taking action. The fact of the matter is that we want to believe it. I'm guilty of that. But how many of us KNOW what he says is true? I'm not talking about the lower-level conspiracy here. That stuff can be verified through research, which is intellectual. I'm talking about a future awakeing which we can't KNOW will happen unless our intuition or inner self knows it, or some shit like that. So how many here experience that? How many here KNOW that an awakening is happening or will happen? I don't. I've just been placing my faith in Icke in regards to that, but now I must admit that I can't simply just believe him hust because the rest of his info is true. All I can do is hope he's right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ktgl0tcsXg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etruthorlies%2Eorg%2F

good rant, c.a. and, i appreciate you taking responsiblity for your own words and the emotion that is fueling them. too many times, people point a finger 'out there', and fail to realize they have three more fingers pointing back at themselves.

http://apcmag.com/files/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/blame-180px.jpg

yes, i agree; the massive apathy in the u.s. consumer is stunning, and at times disheartening to me. nothing seems to move us out of our torpor as a nation.

yes, the 'awakening' may be a wishful fantasy. back around the year 1000, they anticipated the end times, and saw the antichrist under every rock. here we are, pretty much still the same.

at the same time, i can tell you that i have been involved in the "personal growth" movement since the early 90's, and i worked with people who had been involved since the mid-70's, and it has appeared to me that people are moving through their "issues" much faster than i have, and certainly much faster than the people who had been involved since the 80's.

according to david r. hawkins, in 1987 mankind's group consciousness moved from pride into courage, which is the demarcation between integrous and non-integrous living.

and personally, i believe that Grace really is the only thing that can save us from ourselves. more precisely, accepting the Grace that is available to us at all times, including this moment.

but, from a long perspective, my feeling is that 'awakening' is an evolutionary survival strategy. as a species, we'll either wake up or face extinction. it's sad, but it's a fact that our asses got to get realistic about, to borrow a phrase from 'pulp fiction'.

mk72
14-05-2007, 03:58 PM
I feel just as frustrated as you sometimes! But I can see people changing around me, they say things now that would never have come out of their mouths a few years ago. I also remind myself that I still have a lot to learn and cannot judge them, they have their own road to get where they should be. I also believe that everything is as it should be any given time, even this shit hitting the fan now. A very important thing to remember is the consciousness shift now and towards 2012, the mayan calander is actually an indication of evulotion throught billions of years and will end with a huge consciousness shift almost as if our creation is finnished at last, maybe all the creation stories are wrong and we are not born yet and these times are birthpains, maybe then we will use dormant brain functions and dormant DNA, who knows? So far, billions of years, of mayan predictions has been acurate and we are definitely on a timeline. Also remember that feelings are not emotions but the language that the matrix understands and with that language you can create your reality.(as per Tibetan and other pray methods)

garth
14-05-2007, 04:07 PM
yes, the 'awakening' may be a wishful fantasy. back around the year 1000, they anticipated the end times, and saw the antichrist under every rock. here we are, pretty much still the same.

at the same time, i can tell you that i have been involved in the "personal growth" movement since the early 90's, and i worked with people who had been involved since the mid-70's, and it has appeared to me that people are moving through their "issues" much faster than i have, and certainly much faster than the people who had been involved since the 80's.

according to david r. hawkins, in 1987 mankind's group consciousness moved from pride into courage, which is the demarcation between integrous and non-integrous living.

and personally, i believe that Grace really is the only thing that can save us from ourselves. more precisely, accepting the Grace that is available to us at all times, including this moment.

but, from a long perspective, my feeling is that 'awakening' is an evolutionary survival strategy. as a species, we'll either wake up or face extinction. it's sad, but it's a fact that our asses got to get realistic about, to borrow a phrase from 'pulp fiction'.

Great Rant Cleft..some days ya just gotta blow.

Tru3's response sparked something that has been niggling away for a some time in me and others I have communicated with.

Firstly, I have come to know that this reality is all made of cycles, every aspect of the "5 senses" involves a cycle, from the basic day & night, summer/autumn/winter/spring seasons, lunar cycle, global temperature all the way down the ladder to basic matrix cycles like fashion etc. Everything has a cycle and is cyclic in nature.

As tru3 wrote above there have been times in history when an "awakening" of sorts has transpired, but what of this awakening, what happened to the awakend ones? where was the change for the better. It would appear that throughout history, mankind has been cyclic in his understanding of this world, how come there is wreckage of a Phoenician ship right here in OZ, yet the knowledge of sailing around the globe was somehow lost, to be latter "rediscovered" by Columbus/Cook etc. Why is this? What happened to the knowledge?? You'd think that sailing to a far away land would be something that would not be lost.

Did someone or something press "reset", a grave thought, but what other explanation can be offerd here?

Is this "awakening" we are currently entwined in just another matrix cycle that has been played out before, just another form a subdefuge of this matrix control stucture that keeps us here imprisoned. Another cycle?

Is life & death just another cycle, the basis of reincarnation, except it's a treadmill that we can't get off. We like to think that after this there is a escape to another place, far better than here, full of bliss, goodness etc, but is this just another construct, a cyclic revolution of souls from one reality to another and back around again. Is this why I feel like I've been here before many times, been on this merry go round for a long time.

So therefore are we deluding ourselves that this all has a higher meaning, a purpose or reason to be, maybe it just is. A huge treadmill that cycles around. If this is the case, I'm getting damn dizzy, I want off the merry go round, out of this sureal "mouse on a wheel" reality.

My take is that it's time to take down the construct, the matrix. Time to delete it, it seems the only way to see whats behind the 5 sense blinkers that we have been restricted to. Its' time to find the key to this reality and unlock it.

Of course this would mean that out organic digital meatsuits would go with it, but if we are souled beings, made of more than digital electrical impulses and chemical reactions, then we would still be here (wherever here is) but we would see without the digital construct and control mechanism, see the real place that we inhabit without cyclic events. This maybe the most beautiful place we could imagine, but it also might be the most hostile desolate hell hole that there could be, or we could in fact be nothing but digital holographic images who believe that we are self realised and souled, we may cease to exist. Either way, I'm up for it, I've done to many round's in the barrel, its's time for the REAL.

yinon
14-05-2007, 05:30 PM
I believe in A MIRACLE!!!!! RIGHT NOW. DO YOU?????

JOIN US

edit
14-05-2007, 05:38 PM
uplouads (http://www.ibiz.be/uploads/us.jpg)

yinon
14-05-2007, 05:39 PM
I visualize them on their knees asking for help

I see their EGO falling apart

I see them loving everyone

I see them truly humble able to admit their faults

I see them working through cooperation to save this world

I see them stopping to invest on military programms

I see them working for the true welfare of human kind

I see them loving for the first time of their life

I see them sharing their money to help us go through this inivitable shift

I visualize them truly happy to be part of the human family for the first time

I visualize them willing to listen us

It's already done in the energy

neutron flux
14-05-2007, 06:39 PM
I visualize them on their knees asking for help


If they did it would only be another ploy to manipulate you.

I see their EGO falling apart

It's all they have so I can't see this happening.

I see them loving everyone

Psychos don't love.

I see them truly humble able to admit their faults

I doubt it, but if they did it would be yet another ploy to manipulate you.

I see them working through cooperation to save this world


Save themselves more like.

I see them stopping to invest on military programms

Dream on, there's no profit in peace.

I see them working for the true welfare of human kind

Again, stop dreaming.

I see them loving for the first time of their life


They don't know how to love.

I see them sharing their money to help us go through this inivitable shift


Wakey, wakey.

I visualize them truly happy to be part of the human family for the first time


They are different type of human and I certainly wouldn't want them in my family.

I visualize them willing to listen us

They'll listen and then do whatever they want to do which probably won't have our best intrests at heart.

yinon
14-05-2007, 06:57 PM
Ok Then...If it's what they want and truly are...

VIsualize this with me...

We put them all in a rocket without return ticket and their destination is HELL for eternity

Visualize this with me

Everything is possible...

Right NOW

cleft_asunder
14-05-2007, 09:08 PM
Someone explain to me why this song is being played crosscountry in the states:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=589942666684307048&q=waiting+on+the+world+to+change&hl=en

with the world and those who lead it
we just feel like we don't have the means
to rise above and beat it

so we keep waiting
waiting on the world to change
we keep on waiting
waiting on the world to change

it's hard to beat the system
when we're standing at a distance
so we keep waiting
waiting on the world to change
now if we had the power
to bring our neighbors home from war
they would have never missed a Christmas
no more ribbons on their door
and when you trust your television
[ Waiting On The World To Change lyrics found on http://www.completealbumlyrics.com ]
what you get is what you got
cause when they own the information, oh
they can bend it all they want

that's why we're waiting
waiting on the world to change
we keep on waiting
waiting on the world to change

it's not that we don't care,
we just know that the fight ain't fair
so we keep on waiting
waiting on the world to change

and we're still waiting
waiting on the world to change
we keep on waiting waiting on the world to change
one day our generation
is gonna rule the population
so we keep on waiting
waiting on the world to change

we keep on waiting
waiting on the world to change

cleft_asunder
14-05-2007, 09:19 PM
Great Rant Cleft..some days ya just gotta blow.

Tru3's response sparked something that has been niggling away for a some time in me and others I have communicated with.

Firstly, I have come to know that this reality is all made of cycles, every aspect of the "5 senses" involves a cycle, from the basic day & night, summer/autumn/winter/spring seasons, lunar cycle, global temperature all the way down the ladder to basic matrix cycles like fashion etc. Everything has a cycle and is cyclic in nature.

As tru3 wrote above there have been times in history when an "awakening" of sorts has transpired, but what of this awakening, what happened to the awakend ones? where was the change for the better. It would appear that throughout history, mankind has been cyclic in his understanding of this world, how come there is wreckage of a Phoenician ship right here in OZ, yet the knowledge of sailing around the globe was somehow lost, to be latter "rediscovered" by Columbus/Cook etc. Why is this? What happened to the knowledge?? You'd think that sailing to a far away land would be something that would not be lost.

Did someone or something press "reset", a grave thought, but what other explanation can be offerd here?

Is this "awakening" we are currently entwined in just another matrix cycle that has been played out before, just another form a subdefuge of this matrix control stucture that keeps us here imprisoned. Another cycle?

Is life & death just another cycle, the basis of reincarnation, except it's a treadmill that we can't get off. We like to think that after this there is a escape to another place, far better than here, full of bliss, goodness etc, but is this just another construct, a cyclic revolution of souls from one reality to another and back around again. Is this why I feel like I've been here before many times, been on this merry go round for a long time.

So therefore are we deluding ourselves that this all has a higher meaning, a purpose or reason to be, maybe it just is. A huge treadmill that cycles around. If this is the case, I'm getting damn dizzy, I want off the merry go round, out of this sureal "mouse on a wheel" reality.

My take is that it's time to take down the construct, the matrix. Time to delete it, it seems the only way to see whats behind the 5 sense blinkers that we have been restricted to. Its' time to find the key to this reality and unlock it.

Of course this would mean that out organic digital meatsuits would go with it, but if we are souled beings, made of more than digital electrical impulses and chemical reactions, then we would still be here (wherever here is) but we would see without the digital construct and control mechanism, see the real place that we inhabit without cyclic events. This maybe the most beautiful place we could imagine, but it also might be the most hostile desolate hell hole that there could be, or we could in fact be nothing but digital holographic images who believe that we are self realised and souled, we may cease to exist. Either way, I'm up for it, I've done to many round's in the barrel, its's time for the REAL.


I know I know, the ultimate problem is the Matrix itself, through the motion, creating the Illusion of progress--like we're going somewhere, evolving, but it's just a treadmill. The Matrix mind, or lucifer, is in the highest dimension and it feeds off fear energy to keep the Matrix going. I really really hope that Icke is right and this Matrix is ending.

freespark
14-05-2007, 09:55 PM
An awakening is happening. I've been meeting people from all walks of life lately that have either awoken to the truth or are in the process of awakening to it. People that I never would have expected to question the 'official' version of reality are starting to do so. The frequency of these encounters is increasing by the day. That can only be a good thing...

This post made me smile. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_216.gif

Thanks to you all...http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1355/aethankyoupf7.gif

It's nice to feel some hope. Imagine how amazing its going to be when humanity is finally set free and finally becomes aware of whats been happening. The illusion will melt away. ;)

THE WHOLE TRUTH WILL BE REVEALED....hehe and perhaps even 'set us free' along the way as well eh.

WOW.


-------http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_260.gif---- NWO

cleft_asunder
14-05-2007, 09:57 PM
This post made me smile. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_216.gif

Thanks to you all...http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1355/aethankyoupf7.gif

It's nice to feel some hope. Imagine how amazing its going to be when humanity is finally set free and finally becomes aware of whats been happening. The illusion will melt away. ;)

THE WHOLE TRUTH WILL BE REVEALED....hehe and perhaps even 'set us free' along the way as well eh.

WOW.


-------http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_260.gif---- NWO


Why are you so sure?

freespark
14-05-2007, 10:00 PM
Look at the posts above...;)

adramelech
14-05-2007, 11:21 PM
An "awakening", energetically speaking, is happening and heading towards an apex somewhere around 2012. This is just dealing with natural Earth cycles and vibrational levels. The problem is that an "awakening" doesn't infer action. You can unshackle every convict in a prison, but it doesn't mean anything if you've convinced them that they don't want to leave.

This energy can easily be harnassed for both positive and negative purposes.

wideawake
14-05-2007, 11:55 PM
Well we can all sit here can't we judging people and putting the world to rights cant we? But while we are all sitting her in our spiderman pyjamas we actually need to focus on our intuitions. And Intiution tells me personally that the awakening is here. If you are on this website then you are awake and if you aint then you soon will be.

garth
15-05-2007, 01:33 AM
An "awakening", energetically speaking, is happening and heading towards an apex somewhere around 2012. This is just dealing with natural Earth cycles and vibrational levels. The problem is that an "awakening" doesn't infer action. You can unshackle every convict in a prison, but it doesn't mean anything if you've convinced them that they don't want to leave.

This energy can easily be harnassed for both positive and negative purposes.

I tend to agree, Energy in whatever form is "harvested" from this "matrix". Doesn't matter if it's good or bad, its all energy and it's all used. But I tend to think that Fear energy is the most potent of the "5 sense" emotional energies and as such is the desired energy for harvest. This would stand to reason for when you are in fear of something (from my experience) it niggles away in the pit of your being, never going away, always just under the surface. This is good for the "harvesters" as it would appear to give more bang for ya buck so to speak. The preference for Fear energy could also directly relate to our ancestors who (IMO) ran on high Primeval fear, fear of being eaten by a tiger etc, basic fearful existence of living in the wilds. Due to a prevelence of this energy, would not a construct requiring an energy source hook up to the most prevalant?

But all energy is harvested, but maybe just maybe, true love isn't. Being over and above the 5 sense electrical/chemical mechanism, maybe true love is not harvestable, not digestable doesn't compute, a different language altogeather and of no use to the Matrix. If this is so, it is part of the key.

limelady
15-05-2007, 03:50 AM
The virtual program that runs the show here is dispassionate. It has only EVER had one goal -
its own survival. As such, the program does whatever is necessary (a tweak here a tweak there, a complete re-boot if required) to perpetuate its own continued need to survive within the cyclic programming it has learnt to manipulate for its own purposes. Although its own survival has meant controlling human emotions (via the DNA/hormones/electrical responses), it still works within the constraints of its original programming. It may have 'self-actualised' to a point, but the 'matrix' has no interest in the consequences or impact of ANY of its actions on its organic batteries - the humans and animals that feed it the energy it requires. It HAS no greater purpose, therefore while we live within its compounds, WE have not greater purpose, even though the 'machine' has cleverly tricked us into believing we do (think spirituality, religion etc). ALL programs within the mainframe.

Like all virtual programs, the matrix we believe to be reality, has been programmed with a prime directive which it carries out in the same manner any digital program carries out its instructions - dispassionately, emotionlessly. Its digital - it knows
nothing else, and that's why nothing makes any sense to us who although part digital, are also analogous, organic. These are the parts it of US it can manipulate and feed off.

Cycles within cycles, programs within programs. The life/death cycle is just part of the program. When we leave this part of the cycle, we go to the 'holding tank' in another part of the cycle. What we experience while we await our next spin-cycle (in the 3D aspect of the program which is the fuel centre for the program) is whatever the program has provided for us by means of its simulations during our last 3D jaunt. Heaven, hell, bliss etc, are all concepts the program has taught us to 'believe' in - it cares not which one of its false realities we chose to believe in, as long as we believe in one of them......including 'nothingness' when we die.

Whenever the program detects its 'batteries' are becoming too self aware, it provides another virtual program to take us off course, hence the 'near-death-experience' that got neatly slotted into the program during the height of the New Age program. Keep the batteries happy by providing yet another virtual hope - this time the sense that there is something beautiful that awaits when we leave 3D.......the matrix cannot have the fuel waking up to the fact that NOTHING awaits except more of the same. Let them 'die' in peace if that's what it takes to keep them from becoming aware of the program.....they will then think what awaits them after 3D is the REAL part.

This is the way it has always been, and unless we find the key to shutting this program down COMPLETELY the cycles will continue indefinitely. If this is a game, then game is a very serious one for the game itself, who's only purpose is its one prime directive - its own survival.

Trigger movies for the rogues (the viruses) who need to remember that they are here THIS TIME to fuck the program......

The Thirteenth Floor (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139809/)
The Matrix (franchise) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
V For Vendetta (http://vforvendetta.warnerbros.com/)
Blade Runner (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083658/)
The 5th Element (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119116/)
Donnie Darko (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246578/)
The Butterfly Effect (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289879/)
Dark City (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118929/)
What Dreams May Come (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120889/)
Them (http://www.them-movie.com/)
Pi (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138704/)
The Stepford Wives (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0327162/)
American Beauty (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0169547/)
Frequency (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0186151/)
The Time Machine (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268695/)
The Da Vinci Code (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382625/)
National Treasure (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368891/)
Eyes Wide Shut (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120663/)
The Island (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399201/)

Look em up.....watch them again (listen to them with your ears open too, even the music has frequency triggers) if you didn't get your 'cues' the first time...there are triggers (some of them subliminal) in ALL these movies, yet NOTHING is what it seems to be in ANY of them. Take your clues, yet believe NONE of the scripts in totality, then lets re-group.....a part of you knows we're here to stop it this time.

Confused? You're supposed to be - this is how the matrix survives - it relies on your confusion to never know any better.
The question is, ARE we going to wake up this time, or are we still so riveted with matrix-inspired illusion, belief and fear that we are going to allow this to continue on forever?

There is only one certainty - the matrix WILL continue for as long as it takes us to learn how to hack this program and shut it down.

I know its do-able, don't you?

auron
15-05-2007, 05:10 AM
Well we can all sit here can't we judging people and putting the world to rights cant we? But while we are all sitting her in our spiderman pyjamas we actually need to focus on our intuitions. And Intiution tells me personally that the awakening is here. If you are on this website then you are awake and if you aint then you soon will be.

Spot on! Hit the nail right on the head!

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yinon
15-05-2007, 02:35 PM
The top of the illuminies pyramid collapse under their lies

Can you feel it? I do

shenoma
22-05-2007, 05:25 PM
People's entire emontions come from fear, it is the most human condition. Even love comes from it (you are afraid of being alone), the true trick to gaining power over yourself or anything it to move out of it and to destory the base and recreate it with pure love and knowledge of creation. For me it has been the hardest thing to do in my life, I still feel the fear but not so much, being in the same situation doesn't help either.
:rolleyes:

i_am
22-05-2007, 10:47 PM
People's entire emontions come from fear, it is the most human condition. Even love comes from it (you are afraid of being alone), the true trick to gaining power over yourself or anything it to move out of it and to destory the base and recreate it with pure love and knowledge of creation. For me it has been the hardest thing to do in my life, I still feel the fear but not so much, being in the same situation doesn't help either.
:rolleyes:

Hello shenoma I agree with this to a point, however, what most people call love is not true love it is being 'in love'. Big difference. I will endeavour to explain the difference, as I see it :p

To Be In Love has limitations, expectations and conditions.

It is based on need – need to be with, need to be needed, need to possess and/or be possessed, need to control and/or be controlled, need to be continually reassured and the need of someone else for your survival.

When these needs are not met, you then need to find another someone else to meet them.

It is fear based and destructive.


To Love however is unconditional.

There are no needs, no conditions, no expectations, no limitations and most of all NO DRAMAS.

You can only do this when you love yourself unconditionally, are truly secure and comfortable with who you are, and do not need another for your survival.