Another ex-Mason victim of Freemasonry

[ban freekmasons]

4:07 am PDT, Sep 30, anon ex-mason, Australia

I am a descendent of a many generationed, highly influential masonic family, involved in blue, grand, aas lodges, shriners and (I think) OTO. I was the 'blue eyed boy' - until I questioned it. I have been trying to leave them for years, and have been subject to most of their terrorising methods, also SRA. They 'pop up' wherever I go. My ancestors were personal friends of our first prime minister and 'father of federation.' I tried to become resident recently in the uk, and when I was close to 'escaping' them, the money supply from a 'friend', who I since discovered worked in their circles, suddenly ran out (after many assurances to the contrary) and was nearly poisoned by a new 'friend' who again promised much. Whilst they exist, I will not have a life, at least not out of their control. Is that fair? I am talented, but cannot realise these gifts, as every time I have tried, they have attempted to regain control of me throught their members and associates in the media, public service, police and medical professions (some of whom were involved in my own RSA, thanks to the flashbacks! Including a former police commisioner, governer-general and prime minister. Don't believe me? Am happy to provide details, from conscious and recovered memories of RTA (assisted and covered up by my natural family), would happily sign a sworn oath. What 'concerns' could I have left? What more could I lose? Its either me or them, it seems - that's their rules. They will not let me go! I know too much! So, lets close them legally, for the sake of a better world. Ritual sex abuse and child murder is part of it, despite denials (they would say that, wouldn't they?!) God sees all! Gentlemen, time for some penance ... ? It's up to you ...

[agneau]

Reading this forum is one of my greatest joys during the long, long lunch hour here in the City of London. Second only to watching Monty Python re-runs. And strangely similar in so many ways...

Heck I know it's a made up 'testimony' - not unlike most on Duane Washums farcical forum - but I can't resist...

believe me? Am happy to provide details
Fine - please do.

despite denials (they would say that, wouldn't they?!)
Well, yes, if the allegations were untrue then they would deny it. Your evidence for such a preposterous and dreadful assertion? Or just flying your delusional kite? Takes a warped mind to accuse people of such crimes without any reason - and I KNOW you have no back-up to this.

[ban freekmasons]

Reading this forum is one of my greatest joys during the long, long lunch hour here in the City of London. Second only to watching Monty Python re-runs. And strangely similar in so many ways...

Heck I know it's a made up 'testimony' - not unlike most on Duane Washums farcical forum - but I can't resist...


Fine - please do.


Well, yes, if the allegations were untrue then they would deny it. Your evidence for such a preposterous and dreadful assertion? Or just flying your delusional kite? Takes a warped mind to accuse people of such crimes without any reason - and I KNOW you have no back-up to this.

Ok masonic agneau ? aka mike martin, keystone, element etc ? just joined and hiding like all FMs do.
u r not the only phisherman here. every post could be a test, game, time wasting, etc. ACP hold all the cards, why ? because we are real physical people/victims and we have absolutely nothing to hide, unlike all criminal masons. what a deranged collective u r part of, still, it's nice to waste the mason's time. this gives the truth-seekers time to research. you'll have to be quick as ACP has much serious work ahead. give u 1 clue, joe did not wear a uniform and serve the elite, 2 of us did

[agneau]

Oh gosh, no - you're not wasting my time. It's really VERY enjoyable reading your..er, contributions to this forum.

And I've just been reading your petition replies. Very creditable bunch of signatories you have there - you should be very proud....

Phishing? No idea what that means. Hiding? Nope.

you'll have to be quick as ACP has much serious work ahead. give u 1 clue, joe did not wear a uniform and serve the elite, 2 of us did

Sorry -didn't understand that.

[lightworks]

I havent got much time today but I am very interested in your story....I may also be able to suggest ways you can rid yourself of thier interference....

[agneau]

may also be able to suggest ways you can rid yourself of thier interference....

Getting a grip on reality is one - failing which, I suggest lobotomy.

[speculative]

this is what i find funny, ban freakmasons is not one person but a collective of people (self admitted in this thread) all who think freemasons have destroyed their lives. they use one name for multiple people which to me says hiding (or how about curtains as they call it?) while they then accuses Masons of hididng.

all the while they insult, accuse and never posts anything with actual physical or even factual evidence.

all this PLUS they bombard a forum with tosh, the only thing he wastes on here is his own breath, but it certainly is getting annoying.

on another note, I know a lot of forums make a disclaimer saying that only one person to an account. if thats the case here too then he is breaking the rulse of the forum to spout this garbage too. I might have a look just to see!

[lightworks]

Getting a grip on reality is one - failing which, I suggest lobotomy.lol

[element]

ACP does not exist.

It's a myth.

If not, then please provide any real proof, give us photos of your ACP team, office etc...

[runciter]

Getting a grip on reality is one - failing which, I suggest lobotomy.

reality = what they tell you is real

lobotomy = from hell (2001)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/The_Juwes_are_the_men_that_Will_not_be_Blamed_for_ nothing.JPG/270px-The_Juwes_are_the_men_that_Will_not_be_Blamed_for_ nothing.JPG

[marpat]

reality = what they tell you is real

lobotomy = from hell (2001)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/The_Juwes_are_the_men_that_Will_not_be_Blamed_for_ nothing.JPG/270px-The_Juwes_are_the_men_that_Will_not_be_Blamed_for_ nothing.JPG


Reality is what you perceive it to be not what people tell you. People can tell you many things but unless you believe what you are told then you will not accept their version of truth.

There are many interpretations of reality and who is to say which one is right in the absolute

[mike martin]

aka mike martin,
Err no, he or she is not me!

Did anyone else notice that at no time does the story's subject actually claim to be a Mason?

Mike

[runciter]

Reality is what you perceive it to be not what people tell you. People can tell you many things but unless you believe what you are told then you will not accept their version of truth.


whom do you believe?


There are many interpretations of reality and who is to say which one is right in the absolute


"the field is the only reality"

http://www.thunderbolts.info/images/ElectricUniverseCover.JPG

http://www.plasma-universe.com/index.php/Plasma-Universe.com

[marpat]

whom do you believe?



"the field is the only reality"

http://www.thunderbolts.info/images/ElectricUniverseCover.JPG

http://www.plasma-universe.com/index.php/Plasma-Universe.com

I dont believe anybody as such. I keep and open but questioning mind rather than sticking to one particular version of relaity. The truth is that peoples belief in reality oftan changes so why pin yourself down to something that will change in time anyway. I dont think anybody holds all the truth on the matter.

[runciter]

I dont believe anybody as such. I keep and open but questioning mind rather than sticking to one particular version of relaity. The truth is that peoples belief in reality oftan changes so why pin yourself down to something that will change in time anyway. I dont think anybody holds all the truth on the matter.


our reality is controlled by the rothschilds through money.

they're stealing the energies of every single human being.

[marpat]

our reality is controlled by the rothschilds through money.

they're stealing the energies of every single human being.

I dont think so. This is a nice theory but perhaps you should offer some proof. I hav read Ickes work so am familiar with what he says but I still doubt very much that they have absolute control, etc.

[runciter]

I dont think so. This is a nice theory but perhaps you should offer some proof. I hav read Ickes work so am familiar with what he says but I still doubt very much that they have absolute control, etc.

they have the power to create money out of thin air.

LCFR is controlled by the Rothschild family

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/18/asia/AS-China-Bank-of-China-Rothschild.php

[marpat]

they have the power to create money out of thin air.
LCFR is controlled by the Rothschild family

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/18/asia/AS-China-Bank-of-China-Rothschild.php

Wow very Sai Baba.

There are more things of value in the world than money you know.

[runciter]

Wow very Sai Baba.


they're tricksters.


There are more things of value in the world than money you know.


try to live without money.

[marpat]

they're tricksters.



try to live without money.


Funny because people have for millions of years. There is nothing stopping you leaving society behind and going to lives in the wild, maybe is some remote part of the country. What you want is all the modern comforts but not all the problems that go with them.

[runciter]

Funny because people have for millions of years. There is nothing stopping you leaving society behind and going to lives in the wild, maybe is some remote part of the country. What you want is all the modern comforts but not all the problems that go with them.

what i want is debt-free money, and an illuminati-free world.

[marpat]

what i want is debt-free money, and an illuminati-free world.


But there will always be somebody at the top making decisions, etc.

You in debt or something?

[runciter]

But there will always be somebody at the top making decisions, etc.


shouldn't be a rothschild banker.


You in debt or something?


the rothschilds are in debt, not me.

[keystone]

Ok masonic agneau ? aka mike martin, keystone, element etc ?Nope not me either.

u r not the only phisherman here. every post could be a test, game, time wasting, etc.Found the mirror Joe?

ACP hold all the cards, why ?Playing "snap" again then?

because we are real physical people/victims and we have absolutely nothing to hide, unlike all criminal masons. what a deranged collective u r part of, still, it's nice to waste the mason's time. this gives the truth-seekers time to research. you'll have to be quick as ACP has much serious work ahead.Told you he was just playing games.

give u 1 clue, joe did not wear a uniform and serve the elite, 2 of us didThis means what? I used to wear a uniform of the dark blue variety. So what? Oh I see Joe applied and got turned down. Must be the masonic conspiracy against him. :rolleyes:

[mike martin]

and hiding like all FMs do.
because we are real physical people/victims and we have absolutely nothing to hide,
Post your photos and tell us your names then. So we can see who you are!

Put up or shut up.

give u 1 clue, joe did not wear a uniform and serve the elite, 2 of us did
Oh God they're all Traffic Wardens!!!!!

That explains tons

Mike

[marpat]

shouldn't be a rothschild banker.



the rothschilds are in debt, not me.

Well they cant be very efficient if they are in debt, with all their power :rolleyes: Not really the all powerful, totally controlling elite if they cant balance the banking system they created. Smacks of incompetence really.

[runciter]

Well they cant be very efficient if they are in debt, with all their power :rolleyes:


they have a huge spiritual debt, and they're going to pay.


Not really the all powerful, totally controlling elite if they cant balance the banking system they created. Smacks of incompetence really.


satan/lucis/saturn is devouring his children now nwo own.

http://www.espada.eti.br/Images/ICG_Bank_Merger.jpg http://www.espada.eti.br/Images/ICG_Market_Manipulation.jpg

http://www.copia-di-arte.com/kunst/francisco_jose_de_goya/saturn_verschlingt_kinder_hi.jpg http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati/Hessen_Rothschild.jpg

[marpat]

they have a huge spiritual debt, and they're going to pay.

satan/lucis/saturn is devouring his children now nwo own.



I doubt they will pay. The system is set up so that when things fuck up we pay. If they are the people who own the banks and control the money then how can they be in debt to themselves? you said it yourself that their bankers run the world so how can they owe themselves money, who will force payment.

[runciter]

I doubt they will pay. The system is set up so that when things fuck up we pay. If they are the people who own the banks and control the money then how can they be in debt to themselves? you said it yourself that their bankers run the world so how can they owe themselves money, who will force payment.

they are in debt with us, a huge energetic debt.

[marpat]

they are in debt with us, a huge energetic debt.

Really? and how are you going to make them pay. Surely the more spiritual people will forgive them for what they have done. If they are in debt to you then surely you have power over them, so when are you going to wield your influence.

If you have given them your energy then that is your fault. You must have made decisions that allowed such a thing to happen. I think the truth is that such theories are used to create a sense of fear in people so that they will fear and turn against anybody who is in authority, a kind of childish rebellion.

A question for you. You show the coat of arms for the Rothschilds beside a picture of a monster eating somebody. To me this looks like a poor form association, attempting to create the impression that the monster is represented on the coat of arms. It would be like me posting a pic of you next to a big arse with the idea of trying creating the impression that your full of gas. What point where you trying to make?

[runciter]

Really? and how are you going to make them pay. Surely the more spiritual people will forgive them for what they have done. If they are in debt to you then surely you have power over them, so when are you going to wield your influence.


we are already taking our energies back, their empire is falling.


If you have given them your energy then that is your fault. You must have made decisions that allowed such a thing to happen. I think the truth is that such theories are used to create a sense of fear in people so that they will fear and turn against anybody who is in authority, a kind of childish rebellion.


i was born in a rothschild world, it's not my fault.


A question for you. You show the coat of arms for the Rothschilds beside a picture of a monster eating somebody. To me this looks like a poor form association, attempting to create the impression that the monster is represented on the coat of arms. It would be like me posting a pic of you next to a big arse with the idea of trying creating the impression that your full of gas. What point where you trying to make?


it's saturn devouring his children

http://www.espada.eti.br/Images/ICG_Bank_Merger.jpg

saturn satan lucifer lcfr

http://www.polo-master.com/polo_masters/megeve/photos_remisePrix07/Groupe_LCF_Rothschild.jpg

dollar-hide & dolarhyde

http://ssad.bowdoin.edu:9780/snipsnap/eng242-s05/space/Red+Dragon+-+image/Great-red-dragon-L.jpg

the great red dragon

[mike martin]

i was born in a rothschild world, it's not my fault.


Actually you were born into the world just like everyone else, blaming other people because you don't have as much as them is just purile escapism. Why don't you take control of our own life that being the only thing you have control of (just like the rest of us) and make something of yourself.

Of course it is easier to blame others (shady unseen people) rather than get a grip and do something but hey what have you got to lose??

Mike

[ban freekmasons]

Actually you were born into the world just like everyone else, blaming other people because you don't have as much as them is just purile escapism. Why don't you take control of our own life that being the only thing you have control of (just like the rest of us) and make something of yourself.

Of course it is easier to blame others (shady unseen people) rather than get a grip and do something but hey what have you got to lose??

Mike

hello mason mike martini aka ? you are only waffling confidently because you have a huge criminal network behind you. cowardly snug behind the apron. acp are on the second rung of jacobs wonky ladder

[jacob sladder]

hello mason mike martini aka ? you are only waffling confidently because you have a huge criminal network behind you. cowardly snug behind the apron. acp are on the second rung of jacobs wonky ladder



Did somebody call?

[runciter]

Actually you were born into the world just like everyone else, blaming other people because you don't have as much as them is just purile escapism. Why don't you take control of our own life that being the only thing you have control of (just like the rest of us) and make something of yourself.


they are genocidal psychopaths, you are defending them.

how can you do this on david icke's forum? :confused:

http://saugstube-server.to/pub/Thumbs/00085000/00084316.JPG

[mike martin]

they are genocidal psychopaths, you are defending them.
Actually I am a long-standing and well experienced Freemason, I'm not defending anyone, I'm just attempting to balance some of the crap that people here who know nothing about Freemasonry are being fed.

how can you do this on david icke's forum? :confused:
For all his faults (we've all got em), he does seem to actually value free speech and understand that there are conflicting opinions and knowledge in the world. I don't see why you're so concerned, some people here actually want to understand and debate the issue rather than just shouting and calling people names.

Mike

[agneau]

........ you are defending them.

how can you do this on david icke's forum?

I find the quick reply button the easiest way...

they are genocidal psychopaths

Ok, Runciter, give me one - just one - example of Freemasons committing genocide - psychopathically or otherwise. We do have a big presence in London, but I’ve not noticed any appreciable gaps appearing in the populations of Stepney or Mayfair.

I’m so curious to know what REALLY lies behind your (and Ban Freekmasons) antagonism towards Masonry; a real or imaginary slight I wonder?

[mike martin]

hello mason mike martini aka ? you are only waffling confidently because you have a huge criminal network behind you. cowardly snug behind the apron. acp are on the second rung of jacobs wonky ladder
Cowardly? Me? With my reputation.

I'll just point out that of the 2 of us, you are the anonymous one, hiding behind the ramblings of a loon, that being Joe Striling. Of course you do have a small paranoid network behind you that being all the other facets of his personality.

Unlike you, I use my own name and I can easily be turned up on the Web, proving, that unlike you, I am actually a real person.

So I would suggest that maybe in future you actually think through your accusations just to make sure you're not making yourself look any stupider than usual.

Mike

[runciter]

Actually I am a long-standing and well experienced Freemason, I'm not defending anyone, I'm just attempting to balance some of the crap that people here who know nothing about Freemasonry are being fed.


you seem to confirm my hypothesis that masons are rothschild's puppets.

[mike martin]

you seem to confirm my hypothesis that masons are rothschild's puppets.
Oh please, please tell me how?

Mike

[runciter]

Ok, Runciter, give me one - just one - example of Freemasons committing genocide - psychopathically or otherwise. We do have a big presence in London, but I’ve not noticed any appreciable gaps appearing in the populations of Stepney or Mayfair.


if you read my posts you can notice that they're about the rotshchilds.


I’m so curious to know what REALLY lies behind your (and Ban Freekmasons) antagonism towards Masonry; a real or imaginary slight I wonder?


a healthy society can't bear secrecy... freemasonry is against equality.

[agneau]

you seem to confirm my hypothesis that masons are rothschild's puppets.

Runciter, quick, get down to the Treasurery or the Fed Bank - they're desparate to make 1+1 = £8 Billion at the moment, and you seem to have the talent in shedloads....

[runciter]

Oh please, please tell me how?


because my posts were about the rothschilds.

[runciter]

Runciter, quick, get down to the Treasurery or the Fed Bank - they're desparate to make 1+1 = £8 Billion at the moment, and you seem to have the talent in shedloads....

agneau...

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5463453,00.jpg

[agneau]

a healthy society can't bear secrecy... freemasonry is against equality.

OK, tell me what you want to know about Freemasonry and I'll tell you. We may have the odd-secret - like modes of recognition - but they're not really secret since they're plastered all over the web if you look. So what secrets is it that you object to precisely?

And against equality? How so?

[runciter]

OK, tell me what you want to know about Freemasonry and I'll tell you.


i wouldn't believe you.


And against equality? How so?


brethren help each other.

[agneau]

i wouldn't believe you.

Why not?

brethren help each other.
So do the members at my golf club so do the reagulars in my local boozer and so do the members of the Womens Institute, I suspect. What's wrong with that? If you mean help illegally or immorraly, then you're wrong (or rather, you're no more right than for any other group of people).

[runciter]

Why not?


because you're a mason.


So do the members at my golf club so do the reagulars in my local boozer and so do the members of the Womens Institute, I suspect. What's wrong with that? If you mean help illegally or immorraly, then you're wrong (or rather, you're no more right than for any other group of people).


good nlp, you fooled me..

[agneau]

because you're a mason.

Well, yes. But then asking a Freemason's probabaly an advantage if you're trying to find out about the Freemasons. NO good asking me abiout the WI, for instance - cakes aren't my cup of tea.....

good nlp, you fooled me..
Sorry, old son, you'll have to explain what 'nlp' means.

[runciter]

But then asking a Freemason's probabaly an advantage if you're trying to find out about the Freemasons.


just like asking a mafioso about cosa nostra.


Sorry, old son, you'll have to explain what 'nlp' means.


http://www.google.com/

[mike martin]

because my posts were about the rothschilds.

The post I responded to seemed much more about your own apathy, the fact that you've singled out a group to "blame" doesn't mean it isn't about you.

and I also haven't defended the Rothschilds so it would appear that I haven't.

Mike

[agneau]

just like asking a mafioso about cosa nostra.

Oh good grief! OK, give me - and the rest of us - ONE piece of solid evidence you have that would substantiate ANY of the ridiculaous claims I've seen postulated on this board. Not personal testimonies from the sad and lonely, nor half-baked theories from the attention-seekers, but the real deal.

http://www.google.com/ Would have been simpler to just explain,wouldn't it? The google produced neuro-lingusitaic progarmming - which as far as I can tell is about effective communication. So....yes, thanks, I was trying to communicate effectively.

[runciter]

Oh good grief! OK, give me - and the rest of us - ONE piece of solid evidence you have that would substantiate ANY of the ridiculaous claims I've seen postulated on this board. Not personal testimonies from the sad and lonely, nor half-baked theories from the attention-seekers, but the real deal.


or like asking a talmudic jew about the talmud.


Would have been simpler to just explain,wouldn't it? The google produced neuro-lingusitaic progarmming - which as far as I can tell is about effective communication. So....yes, thanks, I was trying to communicate effectively.

programming, not communication.

http://fluorescentflicker.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/damian_2_hal-9000_focus_jpg.jpg

[runciter]

The post I responded to seemed much more about your own apathy,


you know nothing about me, dear mike.


the fact that you've singled out a group to "blame" doesn't mean it isn't about you.


i blame the central bankers and their puppets.


and I also haven't defended the Rothschilds so it would appear that I haven't.


ohhh not directly, it would have been too audacious.

[agneau]

Well, I think that's effectively won my case for me. Cheers. Off to do some work now. (AND I work in the City....gosh - doesn't that just prove everything......?) Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.....

[runciter]

Well, I think that's effectively won my case for me.


if the judge is a mason you have some chance :(

[mike martin]

if the judge is a mason you have some chance :(

Hmmm... tell that to Frederick Henry Seddon, a real Mason who committed murder back in 1911.

Mike

[runciter]

Hmmm... tell that to Frederick Henry Seddon, a real Mason who committed murder back in 1911.


rofl

i should be surprised because a murderer was convicted.

how strange you are, little masonic robots :)

911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911

[mike martin]

rofl

i should be surprised because a murderer was convicted.

I would expect, going by your snide comment about Judges, that you would be suprised to find that a Freemason was found guilty by a Jury whose Chairman was a Freemason and despite trying to gain leniency from a Judge who was a Freemason was hanged for his crime.

It's a fact we use to remind Freemasons that despite what Conspiracists think we are not above the Law.

Mike

[anthony65]

Runciter, quick, get down to the Treasurery or the Fed Bank - they're desparate to make 1+1 = £8 Billion at the moment, and you seem to have the talent in shedloads....

'Scuse me...

Can I interrupt here to ask a question...

"they're desparate to make 1+1 = £8 Billion at the moment"

Does anybody know what the 118 symbolism is all about? I've seen some 118 graffiiti lately and this post just reminded me...

[rich157]

'Scuse me...

Can I interrupt here to ask a question...

"they're desparate to make 1+1 = £8 Billion at the moment"

Does anybody know what the 118 symbolism is all about? I've seen some 118 graffiiti lately and this post just reminded me...

It's the number of the twins. The number for the Gemini code. (The ll code) :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00642/news-graphics-2007-_642140a.jpg

Got their number.

[anthony65]

It's the number of the twins. The number for the Gemini code. :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00642/news-graphics-2007-_642140a.jpg

Got their number.

Thanks Rich! Now I have to research the gemini code! Interesting/bizarre this 1+1 =8 Billion quote...

I just found the following in the Internet...

"Symbol of 8 = Saturn
Having a plethora of Capricorn planets natally certainly helps me resonate with the number 8 even though in Numerology, I am considered a 9.
Whether 8-ish or 9-ish, I had a little time just now to snoop ’round the interweb and I found an interesting article concerning the Olympics and Saturn’s 8 vibration. You may wish to check it out at BrightStarLights, a blog of “Astrology, Fashion, and Celebrities”…where you can also read astrological info about your favorite celebrities - stars of the stars:
http://brightstarlights.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/8-8-2008-numerology-and-the-olympics/
While it’s true that Saturn, as the ancient ruler of Astrology, is in touch with the occult number 8, still we tend to think of the old Lesson-bringer as being connected to the number 10 because of Saturn’s natural house in modern horoscopes. Which may go to show that all is connected underneath - or that ‘modern’ Astrology isn’t always completely in tune with traditional, ancient teachings, teachings which were certainly culturally sound in their time.
Then you may as well add 8 + 10 = 18 = 9.
And there you go, 9 = the number of Completion!"

[rich157]

The 8 represents infinity... because Diamonds are forever. :)

It all goes back to the ancient Gemini Diamond. (or Je-di as it's been put in some films)

You won't find much about it online. They prefer to keep the codes hidden. (Diamond is another code they use)

[anthony65]

The 8 represents infinity... because Diamonds are forever. :)

It all goes back to the ancient Gemini Diamond. (or Je-di as it's been put in some films)

You won't find much about it online. They prefer to keep the codes hidden. (Diamond is another code they use)

Thanks again! Who are "they"?

Back to the original 1+1 =8 Billion. Apparently they're "desperate" to get it...

[rich157]

Thanks again! Who are "they"?

Back to the original 1+1 =8 Billion. Apparently they're "desperate" to get it...

The so called illuminated ones that wrote the codes.


Think of life as one giant game of snakes & ladders.

You can only get to the very top by avoiding all the snakes. ;)

[anthony65]

The so called illuminated ones that wrote the codes.


Think of life as one giant game of snakes & ladders.

You can only get to the very top by avoiding all the snakes. ;)

Psalm 118 is probably a favourite of the freemasons... ;) Are they desperately looking to put the cornerstone in place? :rolleyes:

Psalm 118

The book of psalms is a group of Biblical verses, poems and songs that are used to teach people through stories. There is much uncertainty about who wrote the psalms and when they were written. Psalm 118 is a teaching psalm. It uses an old fable to bring the teachings of God to people who read it.

Psalm 118 is a fable that talks about building a building. The builders have no use for a stone that is irregularly shaped so they toss it aside. Later, they find that they need a stone that particular shape to fit in the building and to actually join the sides together. In fact, that stone becomes the cornerstone for the building.

Psalm 118 shows us that God sends help to those who need it. The story starts out by talking about the cornerstone and how it is now needed for building the temple. People can learn from Psalm 118 that God loves you and that you will always be with God once you die. The righteous people are those who love God and trust and obey him. Psalm 118 teaches us to trust the Lord above all others.

Psalm 118 is often used at Passover. It was typically a song that would be sung at the beginning of Passover and was a celebration of the Lord. The psalms were written over a long period of time and were used to teach people about God. The psalms are made up of many lessons. Typically the common theme is that God is always there for us and that he always will be. Psalm 118 helps to teach us that prayer will let you get closer to God and will make your faith stronger. God should remain in the center of our lives through complete trust.

[rich157]

I think freemasons love the whole of the (Babble ??) bible... after all... it was a book written for them. :D


Jesus or Ge-Zeus ?? That is the question. :)

(Ge = Gemini)
Zeus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Diamend

[runciter]

I would expect, going by your snide comment about Judges, that you would be suprised to find that a Freemason was found guilty by a Jury whose Chairman was a Freemason and despite trying to gain leniency from a Judge who was a Freemason was hanged for his crime.


ok, you expect me to think like a robot, but i'm not a mason...


It's a fact we use to remind Freemasons that despite what Conspiracists think we are not above the Law.


not always, of course, because non-masons are watching you.

[anthony65]

I highlighted verses 10 to 12 because this is the old testament God of destruction. Who is the Lord? El? Elohim?

Apparently psalms 113 to 118 are very important to Jews (and probably also to the British Israelites) looking for the appearance of their messiah. They are referred to as the Hallel. The cornerstone reference applies to the rebuilding of the temple.

Look out for any news of temple rebuilding etc.

118 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
Public Domain


Psalm 118
1O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: because his mercy endureth for ever.

2Let Israel now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

3Let the house of Aaron now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

4Let them now that fear the LORD say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

5I called upon the LORD in distress: the LORD answered me, and set me in a large place.

6The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?

7The LORD taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.

8It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

9It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

10All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD will I destroy them.

11They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD I will destroy them.

12They compassed me about like bees: they are quenched as the fire of thorns: for in the name of the LORD I will destroy them.

13Thou hast thrust sore at me that I might fall: but the LORD helped me.

14The LORD is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.

15The voice of rejoicing and salvation is in the tabernacles of the righteous: the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.

16The right hand of the LORD is exalted: the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.

17I shall not die, but live, and declare the works of the LORD.

18The LORD hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.

19Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the LORD:

20This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter.

21I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.

22The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

23This is the LORD's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.

24This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

25Save now, I beseech thee, O LORD: O LORD, I beseech thee, send now prosperity.

26Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.

27God is the LORD, which hath shewed us light: bind the sacrifice with cords, even unto the horns of the altar.

28Thou art my God, and I will praise thee: thou art my God, I will exalt thee.

29O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.

[runciter]

Thanks Rich! Now I have to research the gemini code! Interesting/bizarre this 1+1 =8 Billion quote...

I just found the following in the Internet...

"Symbol of 8 = Saturn
Having a plethora of Capricorn planets natally certainly helps me resonate with the number 8 even though in Numerology, I am considered a 9.
Whether 8-ish or 9-ish, I had a little time just now to snoop ’round the interweb and I found an interesting article concerning the Olympics and Saturn’s 8 vibration. You may wish to check it out at BrightStarLights, a blog of “Astrology, Fashion, and Celebrities”…where you can also read astrological info about your favorite celebrities - stars of the stars:
http://brightstarlights.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/8-8-2008-numerology-and-the-olympics/
While it’s true that Saturn, as the ancient ruler of Astrology, is in touch with the occult number 8, still we tend to think of the old Lesson-bringer as being connected to the number 10 because of Saturn’s natural house in modern horoscopes. Which may go to show that all is connected underneath - or that ‘modern’ Astrology isn’t always completely in tune with traditional, ancient teachings, teachings which were certainly culturally sound in their time.
Then you may as well add 8 + 10 = 18 = 9.
And there you go, 9 = the number of Completion!"

hi anthony :)

have you heard about the saturn theory?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/85/Saturn-myth.jpg/256px-Saturn-myth.jpg

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34522

[rich157]

The ONE true creator would NEVER call themselves a LORD. Just goes to show how much the, not so elite, tamper with things. :cool:;)

(Even the films tell you that the Ge-Di's oppose the Lords)

[anthony65]

Hi Runciter,

No I hadn't heard of the Saturn theory; but I have now! Thanks!

*** I just found the following story, which fits in perfectly to what I wrote earlier about Jerusalem temple type news... :) Now that didn't take long to turn up! :D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081006/wl_mideast_afp/israelarchaeologyreligion;_ylt=AnI8_Q0PPJ6AjtjlgWJ IRras0NUE

Sarcophagus fragment found near Jerusalem

JERUSALEM (AFP) - Israeli archaeologists on Monday announced the discovery of a stone sarcophagus fragment with Hebrew script that was apparently taken from the original burial grounds and used for a Muslim building near Jerusalem.

The discovery was made along the West Bank separation barrier north of Jerusalem, the Israel Antiquities Authority said in a statement.

The sarcophagus is believed to be that of a Jewish priest from about 2,000 years ago. The fragment of the limestone lid bears the carved inscription "Ben HaCohen HaGadol" which can be loosely translated as "the high priest."

"It seems that the fragment was plundered from its original location approximately one thousand years ago and was used in the construction of a later Muslim building that was erected atop the ruins of the houses from the Second Temple period," the statement said.

The 60 centimetre by 48 centimetre (two foot by one-and-a-half foot) fragment likely comes from the sarcophagus of a priest who officiated at the Jewish Second Temple in Jerusalem some time between 30 and 70 of the first century, it said.

[anthony65]

The ONE true creator would NEVER call themselves a LORD. Just goes to show how much the, not so elite, tamper with things. :cool:;)

(Even the films tell you that the Ge-Di's oppose the Lords)

Thanks Rich!

Please see my previous post about this article... I feel like I'm in the flow today (feeling the force!) :D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081006/wl_mideast_afp/israelarchaeologyreligion;_ylt=AnI8_Q0PPJ6AjtjlgWJ IRras0NUE

[runciter]

and what about this one?

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081003/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_astronaut_s_diary

A little over two months after the shuttle explosion, NASA searchers found 37 pages from Ramon's diary, wet and crumpled, in a field just outside the U.S. town of Palestine, Texas. The diary survived extreme heat in the explosion, extreme atmospheric cold, and then "was attacked by microorganisms and insects" in the field where it fell, said museum curator Yigal Zalmona.
"It's almost a miracle that it survived — it's incredible," Zalmona said. There is "no rational explanation" for how it was recovered when most of the shuttle was not, he said.

i tried to decode it... :o

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37888

:cool:

showthread.php?t=37888

:eek:

777 888

:D

[rich157]

and what about this one?



i tried to decode it... :o

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37888

:cool:

showthread.php?t=37888

:eek:

777 888

:D

Just another coded news story with reference to Ra & 777, 888.

Basically saying: It's a miracle that the knowledge has survived considering the extreme conditions it's been through,
even though the vessel was destroyed.

:D:D;)

(Return of the Ge-Di)

[runciter]

Just another coded news story with reference to Ra & 777, 888.


ra is their fake religion, their sun is not our sun

777 is london bombings, crowley and jackpot

888 is olympic day, georgia surprise and... ?

p.s.

rich you replied to my post but not to anthony's

Thanks Rich!

Please see my previous post about this article... I feel like I'm in the flow today (feeling the force!) :D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081006/wl_mideast_afp/israelarchaeologyreligion;_ylt=AnI8_Q0PPJ6AjtjlgWJ IRras0NUE

you're a...

http://www.legalmoviesdownloads.com/movie_screenshots/Star_Wars_Episode_VI_-_Return_of_the_Jedi/Star_Wars_Episode_VI_-_Return_of_the_Jedi_3.jpg

:D

[rich157]

Haha.. someone must've poked me in the eye. :D

It's just the same story... the return of something or other. ;)

Except this time they say...

"the high priest"



All different things keep being returned to all different places just lately, all we have to do is look for them.

I guess someone left the freezer off. Ooops...... Look at all the food that's defrosted.

Can't stop the climate change. The BIG WAKE UP!! (eveille) :D

[marpat]

ra is their fake religion, their sun is not our sun

777 is london bombings, crowley and jackpot

888 is olympic day, georgia surprise and... ?

p.s.

rich you replied to my post but not to anthony's



you're a...



:D

Who is Ra the fake religion of? are you into the 2012 ascension stuff? the source behind the communications for that information is called Ra. I would like to know what this fake religion is and what makes it fake.

What has 777 to do with Crowley except he called one of his books that?

Talking about numerology look at the name Icke. If we condense it down to actual sounds you get Ike. The numerology is 10+20+1=31. 31 is the number for the Hebrew God El, who people claim is to do with the brotherhood. It is also the value of the Hebrew word La, not.

[rich157]

777 - is the eveille... and the bail-out (Exit)

http://www.sunshinehope.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/777.thumbnail.jpg - is the JACKPOT!!

ζζζ - is the.. Lucky for some, but not so much for others. :)

la trinité
le nombre magique

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/aveburydown/ullens8a.jpg


FREE!!

[runciter]

Who is Ra the fake religion of?


sun worship is only a facade, it's for the masses..


What has 777 to do with Crowley except he called one of his books that?


crowley is everywhere, in this upside-down world.

http://files.splinder.com/116900d0a4caba4f4725dc92c142815c.jpeg

American Airlines Flight 77 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The Anglo-Saxon k in Magick, like most of Crowley's conceits, is a means of indicating the kind of magic which he performed. K is the eleventh letter of several alphabets, and eleven is the principal number of magick, because it is the number attributed to the Qliphoth - the underworld of demonic and chaotic forces that have to be conquered before magick can be performed. K has other magical implications: it corresponds to the power or shakti aspect of creative energy, for k is the ancient Egyptian khu, the magical power. Specifically, it stands for kteis (vagina), the complement to the wand (or phallus) which is used by the Magician in certain aspects of the Great Work."

For Crowley, the alternate spelling was used to differentiate it from other practices, such as stage magic. Magick is not capable of producing "miracles" or violating the physical laws of the universe (e.g., it cannot cause a solar eclipse), although "it is theoretically possible to cause in any object any change of which that object is capable by nature".

Magick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/Itek_Air_logo.png

Unicursal hexagram - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/u/images/united-93-poster-1.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/93_(Thelema)

[marpat]

sun worship is only a facade, it's for the masses..



crowley is everywhere, in this upside-down world.

http://files.splinder.com/116900d0a4caba4f4725dc92c142815c.jpeg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77

"The Anglo-Saxon k in Magick, like most of Crowley's conceits, is a means of indicating the kind of magic which he performed. K is the eleventh letter of several alphabets, and eleven is the principal number of magick, because it is the number attributed to the Qliphoth - the underworld of demonic and chaotic forces that have to be conquered before magick can be performed. K has other magical implications: it corresponds to the power or shakti aspect of creative energy, for k is the ancient Egyptian khu, the magical power. Specifically, it stands for kteis (vagina), the complement to the wand (or phallus) which is used by the Magician in certain aspects of the Great Work."

For Crowley, the alternate spelling was used to differentiate it from other practices, such as stage magic. Magick is not capable of producing "miracles" or violating the physical laws of the universe (e.g., it cannot cause a solar eclipse), although "it is theoretically possible to cause in any object any change of which that object is capable by nature".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magick

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/Itek_Air_logo.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicursal_hexagram

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/u/images/united-93-poster-1.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/93_(Thelema)

You dont need to explain Crowley to me, but what I did ask is what the relevane is to 777 apart from his book being called that.

Crowleys work is not really that bad when you learn what he really means and when you can tell when he was being serious or when he was writing just to piss people off. The error of the majority of his critics is that they take the initial impression as the complete picture.

[runciter]

i see a 77 7 also in the argenteum astrum "seal".

[runciter]

Hi Runciter,

No I hadn't heard of the Saturn theory; but I have now! Thanks!

*** I just found the following story, which fits in perfectly to what I wrote earlier about Jerusalem temple type news... :) Now that didn't take long to turn up! :D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081006/wl_mideast_afp/israelarchaeologyreligion;_ylt=AnI8_Q0PPJ6AjtjlgWJ IRras0NUE

Sarcophagus fragment found near Jerusalem

JERUSALEM (AFP) - Israeli archaeologists on Monday announced the discovery of a stone sarcophagus fragment with Hebrew script that was apparently taken from the original burial grounds and used for a Muslim building near Jerusalem.

The discovery was made along the West Bank separation barrier north of Jerusalem, the Israel Antiquities Authority said in a statement.

The sarcophagus is believed to be that of a Jewish priest from about 2,000 years ago. The fragment of the limestone lid bears the carved inscription "Ben HaCohen HaGadol" which can be loosely translated as "the high priest."

"It seems that the fragment was plundered from its original location approximately one thousand years ago and was used in the construction of a later Muslim building that was erected atop the ruins of the houses from the Second Temple period," the statement said.

The 60 centimetre by 48 centimetre (two foot by one-and-a-half foot) fragment likely comes from the sarcophagus of a priest who officiated at the Jewish Second Temple in Jerusalem some time between 30 and 70 of the first century, it said.

between the years of jesus' preaching and the destruction of the second temple.

"i will destroy this temple and no one will be able to build it again"

[boots]

this is what i find funny, ban freakmasons is not one person but a collective of people (self admitted in this thread) all who think freemasons have destroyed their lives. they use one name for multiple people which to me says hiding (or how about curtains as they call it?) while they then accuses Masons of hididng.

all the while they insult, accuse and never posts anything with actual physical or even factual evidence.

all this PLUS they bombard a forum with tosh, the only thing he wastes on here is his own breath, but it certainly is getting annoying.

on another note, I know a lot of forums make a disclaimer saying that only one person to an account. if thats the case here too then he is breaking the rulse of the forum to spout this garbage too. I might have a look just to see!

What are you fucking stupid or something, forget the something. YOU are stupid.

ban Freekmasons, have stated the fact that they were are a collection of people who have had dealings with Freemasonary that have been a detriment to themselves. whos to say that freemasons arn't operating from one computer? more than likely you lot are.

Who the fuck do you think you are to bring up a moderation issuse on a forum that you lot dispise.



.

[agneau]

Oh dear, you're having a bad day, aren't you? Where you off to next? - this is great fun....

[boots]

I would expect, going by your snide comment about Judges, that you would be suprised to find that a Freemason was found guilty by a Jury whose Chairman was a Freemason and despite trying to gain leniency from a Judge who was a Freemason was hanged for his crime.

It's a fact we use to remind Freemasons that despite what Conspiracists think we are not above the Law.

Mike

No your NOT above the law at least all you shit kickers on the lower rungs aren't.

The ones at the top have more privileges than you would want to imagine.

Some people have there head in the sand, you've got yours firmly stuck up your arse.

[boots]

Oh dear, you're having a bad day, aren't you? Where you off to next? - this is great fun....

Lurking are you. You gutless coward.

I suppose thats what they are paying you for.

[mike martin]

No your NOT above the law at least all you shit kickers on the lower rungs aren't.

The ones at the top have more privileges than you would want to imagine.

Some people have there head in the sand, you've got yours firmly stuck up your arse.

Now stop....... take a breath....... now try actually reading my post before coming over all raging bull.

By the criteria applied by you and other anti-Masons I'm not on the "lower rungs" fellah.

Mike

[agneau]

Lurking? How does one ‘lurk’ on a forum?

Look, if you want to engage in serious discussion on your (misguided) beliefs, then I’m more than happy and more than qualified to do so.

But if you just want to throw around brainless insults, then I’m just going to sit back and laugh at you, and occasionally goad you into performing for me some more.

From the sound of you – you've gone way past your bed-time and you’re over-tired, old bean.

[runciter]

Look, if you want to engage in serious discussion on your (misguided) beliefs, then I’m more than happy and more than qualified to do so.


do you expect a non-mason to believe what a mason says about masonry?

rofl
http://www.alexmaurer.de/custom/MaoTseTungZedong.JPG

[agneau]

More than I would expect a non-Mason to beleive what somwewhat deranged non-Mason such as yourself, or Ban F or poor old Boots says about Masonry - yes.

But you see, I'm starting from a point of rationality, or reality even.

If there is anyone out there who seriiously wants to ask questions or debate any issues not stemming from paranoia- I will answer as best I can - as I'm sure the likes of Mike M and others will.

[boots]

Now stop....... take a breath....... now try actually reading my post before coming over all raging bull.

By the criteria applied by you and other anti-Masons I'm not on the "lower rungs" fellah.

Mike

Oh yes you are.

[boots]

More than I would expect a non-Mason to beleive what somwewhat deranged non-Mason such as yourself, or Ban F or poor old Boots says about Masonry - yes.

But you see, I'm starting from a point of rationality, or reality even.

If there is anyone out there who seriiously wants to ask questions or debate any issues not stemming from paranoia- I will answer as best I can - as I'm sure the likes of Mike M and others will.


Reality!!! you think you know reality, hang on while I pick myself up off the floor,. from laughing. You obviously dont know a thing about what Icke has said in his book's

Your only trolling this forum because it's a big dent in your ego for someone to knock you little group.

Now go home, so mummy can give you a lollipop and a bath before bed time.

Sucker.

[runciter]

More than I would expect a non-Mason to beleive what somwewhat deranged non-Mason such as

david icke http://i.pbase.com/v3/58/372658/1/51831617.rofl.gif

[agneau]

Exactly.

[runciter]

Exactly.

do you expect humans to think like little masonic robots? :)

[boots]

Exactly.

You still here :rolleyes: did your bosss not pay you? or maybe because your forum is so B-O-R-I-N-G.

[agneau]

do you expect humans to think like little masonic robots? :)


No, I just expect them to think. Rationally and sensibly. But I am so often disappointed.

You accuse us of thinking like robots, but your answer to any attempt to engage you in reasoned debate is invariably formulaic and limited – which is closer to the programmed cognitive response.

I think you have been conditioned by Icke’s nonsense and a failing in yourself to believe this nonsense – Lizards and Illuminati and Atlanteans? Have you really got any hard evidence for anything you accuse others of, or is it just an incredible naivety? I think it’s the latter, in which case the biggest danger are the likes of Icke who prey on the gullible.

[runciter]

You accuse us of thinking like robots, but your answer to any attempt to engage you in reasoned debate is invariably formulaic and limited – which is closer to the programmed cognitive response.


you can't be honest about masonry, a debate would be pointless.

[agneau]

How do you KNOW that - what factual evidence have YOU got that I can't be honest.

[runciter]

How do you KNOW that - what factual evidence have YOU got that I can't be honest.

if you masons were honest you wouldn't be a secret society.

[agneau]

But we're NOT a secret society, are we? All of our rituals are all over the web, and you only have to stand outside any temple to work out who's a member, and most of us wear badges and actively discuss our membership. Not one of the best kept secrets, is it? No, that can't be it - what is it really that you don't understand?

[boots]

No, I just expect them to think. Rationally and sensibly. But I am so often disappointed.

You accuse us of thinking like robots, but your answer to any attempt to engage you in reasoned debate is invariably formulaic and limited – which is closer to the programmed cognitive response.

I think you have been conditioned by Icke’s nonsense and a failing in yourself to believe this nonsense – Lizards and Illuminati and Atlanteans? Have you really got any hard evidence for anything you accuse others of, or is it just an incredible naivety? I think it’s the latter, in which case the biggest danger are the likes of Icke who prey on the gullible.

A true programmed response from a frog.:rolleyes:

Doesn't even believe that there is a nwo, that has it's root's in occultism and control of the human population.

[runciter]

But we're NOT a secret society, are we?

ok, then i want public lists of all freemasons of all degrees :)

[agneau]

Really? Explain why you want that and what would you do with it?

I rather think it would achieve the same as making compulsory making public the membership of this forum, for instance. Or the membership of every Golf Club or any other private group of individuals.

But I am curious to know what you would do with this list precisely?

[mike martin]

ok, then i want public lists of all freemasons of all degrees :)

I want a public list of all members of this Forum.

Just as useful.

What would you actually do with such a list?

Ooh I think my MP is a Freemason cos I don't like him, I know I'll look him up on a list of Freemasons then say I don't like him because he is a Freemason.

OR

I'm bored today, I know I'll find a Freemason who lives near me and go round knock on his door and abuse him.

The real question though, is who are you going to blame when you realise that most of your targets aren't actually Freemasons at all.

All you actually want is a way to make the target fit the crime.

Mike

[runciter]

I want a public list of all members of this Forum.


no problem, let's count 3-2-1 and then release the lists.

i won't give my data to a mafia-like secret society... :)

[mike martin]

i won't give my data to a mafia-like secret society... :)

More realistically, I won't give my details to loons who are looking for someone, in fact anyone to blame the failings in their own lives and even the world on.

Mike

[agneau]

Are you going to answer my two questions, Runciter?

[runciter]

More realistically, I won't give my details to loons who are looking for someone, in fact anyone to blame the failings in their own lives and even the world on.


i don't respect double-faced people who hide their dirty secrets :mad:

your rothschild temple is collapsing, all criminals will be convicted.

[runciter]

Are you going to answer my two questions, Runciter?

we would see how little robots help each other, and goodbye mafia.

[agneau]

You haven't any thoughts further than "we want a register", do you? Nothing there at all, save a robotic repetition of a delusional paranoia. No independant thought, no real comprehension, no intelligence, so substance. I do feel very sorry for you. I always thought that Care in the Commuunity was a bad idea.

OK, I've tried the adult approach - I'm going back to baiting.

[runciter]

You haven't any thoughts further than "we want a register", do you? Nothing there at all, save a robotic repetition of a delusional paranoia. No independant thought, no real comprehension, no intelligence, so substance. I do feel very sorry for you. I always thought that Care in the Commuunity was a bad idea.

OK, I've tried the adult approach - I'm going back to baiting.

i hope you've done harm to no one, because the veil is lifting..

you won't be punished for the crimes of your demonic masters.

[boots]

You haven't any thoughts further than "we want a register", do you? Nothing there at all, save a robotic repetition of a delusional paranoia. No independant thought, no real comprehension, no intelligence, so substance. I do feel very sorry for you. I always thought that Care in the Commuunity was a bad idea.

OK, I've tried the adult approach - I'm going back to baiting.

Why does he have to answer you.

Now, do as you are told little man and go home to mummy so she can tuck you in and put you to bed.

There's a good boy.

[mike martin]

i hope you've done harm to no one, because the veil is lifting..

you won't be punished for the crimes of your demonic masters.

You are either only 12 or 13 years old or a complete loon, either way you have lost it matey, in a big way.

Mike

[mike martin]

Why does he have to answer you.

Now, do as you are told little man and go home to mummy so she can tuck you in and put you to bed.

There's a good boy.


You're in the same category!

Is there any "original" thought going on in yer bonce or is it the case that we can just expect insults and recycling from your keyboard.

Mike

[runciter]

You're in the same category!


free people.

[runciter]

You are either only 12 or 13 years old or a complete loon, either way you have lost it matey, in a big way.


you're only here to defend slavemasonry :)

[mike martin]

you're only here to defend slavemasonry :)

Cor, you saw right through me didn't you??:rolleyes:

So like I asked boots, is there any original thinking going on inside your head? Or are you just going to go on spewing what you've been taught?

Mike

[runciter]

Cor, you saw right through me didn't you??:rolleyes:


this was post nr. 119

119 119 119 119 119


So like I asked boots, is there any original thinking going on inside your head?


911 911 911 911 911

http://www.ks-ebooks.co.uk/images/Hypnosis56.jpg


Or are you just going to go on spewing what you've been taught?


http://www.wbenjamin.org/magritte.jpg

[mike martin]

So that's a no and a yes then, shame.

Mike

[runciter]

So that's a no and a yes then, shame.


you have your masters, i have none...

so who is the free man?

http://www.brooklandsvideo.com/Hoodwinked.jpg

[banoyes]

The real question though, is who are you going to blame when you realise that most of your targets aren't actually Freemasons at all.

All you actually want is a way to make the target fit the crime.

Mike

Freemasons are trained in deception...it's in their handbook
They all play similar psycological games
They all deny .. they ignore the mountain of evidence exposed by researchers like Icke and many others.
John Wilkes Booth...MAson
Harry Truman ... killer of thousands of innocents ... Freemason
The list is long
The governor of Ohio,who ordered the National Guard to fire on unarmed students,, Freemason
Throughout history the trail of this murderous cult is evident
but
Freemasons ,,, deny it...they accept no responsibility
They stand by their oaths
They obey the "Worshipfull Masters"
The chance of getting any honesty from a Freemason is zero
They will just reply with some swarmy superior tone of derision
That's all they have, I don't know why they bother
Their presence here is , IMO, for training purposes
AND
"The real question though, is who are you going to blame when you realise that most of your targets aren't actually Freemasons at all."
The evidence be dammed...listen to what I say
It's all just a huge coincidence

[keystone]

It's all just a huge coincidenceJust like planes LOL.

[banoyes]

Just like planes LOL.
The chance of getting any honesty from a Freemason is zero
They will just reply with some swarmy superior tone of derision
That's all they have, I don't know why they bother

[keystone]

The chance of getting any honesty from a Freemason is zeroWrong, quite, quite wrong. You want to justify this?

They will just reply with some swarmy superior tone of derisionComing from you that's real rich.

That's all they have, I don't know why they botherDitto.

[mike martin]

Freemasons are trained in deception...it's in their handbook
Nope it's only in your imagination which appears to be fuelled only by your gullibility.
They all play similar psycological games
I love the way that to you, pointing out the obvious and telling the truth is some kind of "psycological game".

They all deny .. they ignore the mountain of evidence exposed by researchers like Icke and many others.
Actually what I do is point out to you the flaws in the molehill of misquotes, supposition, untruths and flawed logic processes in the material that you seem to eat up.

John Wilkes Booth...MAson
Harry Truman ... killer of thousands of innocents ... Freemason
The list is long
The governor of Ohio,who ordered the National Guard to fire on unarmed students,, Freemason
Throughout history the trail of this murderous cult is evident
You see here is a pefect example. How can you really believe that their actions were caused by any Masonic influence? Let's just take Truman (even though I've been through this before) for a moment. Are you really saying that you think his actions had nothing to do with the fact that he was the President of a country at war and it was something to do with the coincidental fact that he was also a Mason? You're actually saying that if he hadn't been a Mason that he wouldn't have bombed Japan. Come on, try and get a grip and engage whatever intelligence you might actually have in your head.

Freemasons ,,, deny it...they accept no responsibility
Obviously! Weaving Masonic membership onto important events and people in history (sometimes hundreds of years after the fact) is not evidence of anything other than you not having enough to do with yourself.

They stand by their oaths
They obey the "Worshipfull Masters"
The chance of getting any honesty from a Freemason is zero
They will just reply with some swarmy superior tone of derision
That's all they have, I don't know why they bother
Their presence here is , IMO, for training purposes
Just pointless posturing! Why don't you actually attempt to communicate rather than rant, you might learn something.


AND
"The real question though, is who are you going to blame when you realise that most of your targets aren't actually Freemasons at all."
The evidence be dammed...listen to what I say
It's all just a huge coincidence

Like I said the claims that you wish to push onto others are not proven there is NO real evidence.

Mike

[banoyes]

Nope it's only in your imagination which appears to be fuelled only by your gullibility.

I love the way that to you, pointing out the obvious and telling the truth is some kind of "psycological game".


Actually what I do is point out to you the flaws in the molehill of misquotes, supposition, untruths and flawed logic processes in the material that you seem to eat up.


You see here is a pefect example. How can you really believe that their actions were caused by any Masonic influence? Let's just take Truman (even though I've been through this before) for a moment. Are you really saying that you think his actions had nothing to do with the fact that he was the President of a country at war and it was something to do with the coincidental fact that he was also a Mason? You're actually saying that if he hadn't been a Mason that he wouldn't have bombed Japan. Come on, try and get a grip and engage whatever intelligence you might actually have in your head.


Obviously! Weaving Masonic membership onto important events and people in history (sometimes hundreds of years after the fact) is not evidence of anything other than you not having enough to do with yourself.


Just pointless posturing! Why don't you actually attempt to communicate rather than rant, you might learn something.



Like I said the claims that you wish to push onto others are not proven there is NO real evidence.

Mike
"Actually what I do is point out to you the flaws in the molehill of misquotes, supposition, untruths and flawed logic processes in the material that you seem to eat up."
Never happened .. a lie

"coincidental fact that he was also a Mason"
is it also a coincidence that the majority of US Presidents have been Masons?
It's also a coincidence that all Royals are Freemasons
This is them,the MAson logic
"just a coincidence"
HEY.... there are no coincidences and certaintly not on the scale found in MAsonry

They harp about discussion
It is impossible to have a "discussion" with a Mason
everything is a coincidence and they deny evidence
"Oh the KKK was not founded by Masons" .. thats poppycock"
Yet the evidence clearly shows it was.

"Like I said the claims that you wish to push onto others are not proven there is NO real evidence."

NAh there's no real evidence,Icke and Tarpley and the dozens of others are just bullshitting you.
To my mind the replys from these fine Mason fellows is all the proof one needs to know
Masons cannot be honest

[keystone]

is it also a coincidence that the majority of US Presidents have been Masons?Yeah 15 out of 43 is a real majority innit?

It's also a coincidence that all Royals are FreemasonsErrm - no they're not. Does the word WRONG figure in your vocabulary?

[kimball13]

a good book to read is a bool titled,,, The Templar Papers, it speaks of a little of the history and how a groupe of military egotists took them over in 1997.......I am not only a victum i am the rightful ruler of the Templars as well as much more according to not only the Royal Arch Masons but also european royalty:)Ive bean very busy the past 2 months:D can we say BALLS tho The Wall(wall strt that is), Maybe there are some still honoring the old law of the Templars and are listening to there rightful leader, a RAM is by birth and is a right:eek:i was there first vitim and i will be the last,,, me and my mothers side (catholic) have had a major falling out, i was disowened by my sister for not loving money, so when our mother followed my sisters orders and commands in front of my own eye's i knew who she represented "Morgana" the evil half sister of King Arthur.......Morgana tried to regain her controle over me through her ttaactics and people she works for(realy bad mojo), fufisive to say i had to walk of of a mountain and away from there stinking ill gotten wealth and the rest of my biological family, so i have truly sacraficed everything,,,,,,,there is a song about myself and others called Warrior by Kid R*ck and dale earnhard jr, and the National Guard.
The army's motto Army Strong is part of my family motto"fortis non ferox(strong not weak),kid rock is very dear to my heart, his music tells a strory especialy his album Rock and roll Jesus.

I am the true Merovingian King, King of Kings.......The Carolingian king George Bush is a bit nerviose and hopefully he will correct what his ancestror did(pippin the short),,,,,,,how bout that there are still loyal Knights that i have never met face to face yet they still remain loyal after 100's of years on there own,,,i hold the sword and they know it ball the the wallst,,,,,,,it will continue until they capitualate and give me my right's as they should be honored, if they continue as they have over the years the economic crisis will get worse, my people act atonimousely on there own and they know what to do in there own profesions to bring about the "TRUTH" i am Kalki the one on the white horse and i work for God and Christ.......I only want the leaders that refuse to surrender to suffer, there followers only have to turn them in and desert them and come underneath the True banner of the real Templar's,,,wonder why the banking has bin hit hard, well it was the Templars that developed banking so it is us that can destroy it.......Happsberg your a bad boy, are you ready to surrender (capitulate) and turn evidence over or shall i take your resorces and put you where you guys put me:cool: The there is the queen of england is the house of tudor willing to submit yet, they know who i am they have known since my birth,I ALSO AM THE ONE THAT WENT DOWN in the surer 61 in 93, i tried to cause the ambush prematurly to warn of the rest of the force and stop the op because i knew what may happend i was willling to sacrafice my life for my mens as well as the Somalians lives, i have no prejuduces against race.......

victums of what ever, we all are and just refuse to admit it because of Pride...
I admit it and im supposed to be this so called great King,,,the gentic program they did has caused me to have i dont know how many children:)and i love every one of them dearly they truly are beutiful,,,i will be in public today as i am everyday alone and in contact with people, i check on my kids daily and listen to there words of there family of upbringing, i hear them talk aout the men they think are there fathers, sometimes i gigle and have a warm fuzzy fealing thinking, i am hear for you and i want you to know i am here for you and love you,,, i am your real father and they call me Warrior, they call me loyalty, i have sacraficed everything for you includeing my time with you i want you to know why you unwillingly sacraficed time with me and our real family, go army!!!!!!!I love you all includeing some of my enemy's, and this time i declare war and im not under there controle, i have my hair and if ya try to take one hair you will pay dearly(wall)... Wall st started the same time the drug wars did:eek:By the way mota(herb) is not only a sacrament but also a medicine for some...By the way gay marriage does not exist, call it something else, no more manipulateng language(1984) call it a union for gays or something else like Gayig or something else of there choosing so that it is known that they are of a same sex union, if they are proud of there union they will have no problem with this, if they are stuck on the word marriage then they have another agenda that goes beyond marriage,,, are they tring to pull a Dogma move (the movie theme).

We can now clearly see the banks intentions by hw they are still attacking us all, like i said im only attacking the evil leaders the good ones will know this...fro more info read King arthur coverup Ancient History / Forbidden Knowledge / History Rewritten,,, and please read through as i had to write it in a hurry as you see now int the world economy

[mike martin]

a good book to read is a bool titled,,, The Templar Papers, it speaks of a little of the history and how a groupe of military egotists took them over in 1997.......I am not only a victum i am the rightful ruler of the Templars as well as much more according to not only the Royal Arch Masons but also european royalty:)Ive bean very busy the past 2 months:D can we say BALLS tho The Wall(wall
Snipped because to be honest it doesn't need to be repeated

Very funny, nice work, sort of sums up what I've been writing really.

Mike

[mike martin]

Never happened .. a lie
Interesting, you are just arguing aren't you.

"coincidental fact that he was also a Mason"
is it also a coincidence that the majority of US Presidents have been Masons?
No it's not a coincidence! It is an untruth (aka a lie) that you have been fed, you have swallowed and you are now regurgitating. A maorjority of US Presidents would have to be 22 or more, there have been 15 US Presidents that were also Masons

It's also a coincidence that all Royals are Freemasons
NO it is not a coincidence! It is yet another lie. There are 3 living members of the Royal Family who have been Initiated into Freemasonry, although one of them has not attended a Lodge meeting since 1952. In total, since 1717 when the first Grand Lodge appeared here have been 8 Royals involved not counting the 3 above.

This is them,the MAson logic
As much as you might hate it, it is in fact just the facts.

"just a coincidence"
HEY.... there are no coincidences and certaintly not on the scale found in MAsonry
Quite right! As I've shown above there are just the lies that you are so happy to believe.

They harp about discussion
It is impossible to have a "discussion" with a Mason
Well why don't you try it! Rather than just making stupid claims that someone else told you.

everything is a coincidence and they deny evidence
Nope it's not coincidence it is just you recycling lies.

"Oh the KKK was not founded by Masons" .. thats poppycock"
Yet the evidence clearly shows it was.
Oh God you really are screwed aren'tyou. You will believe anything. Did you know that the Masons invented rubber tyres, it was so that they could be punctured to piss off non-Masons. Ever seen a Mason with a flat tyre?

NAh there's no real evidence,Icke and Tarpley and the dozens of others are just bullshitting you.
I would suggest that you open your mind for a while and consider the facts above and that I've supplied in numerous other threads here that quite easily highlight the bullshit that you are buying into and come back to me with something more tangible than "he said, she said" evidence for why you think Freemasons are to blame for whatever it is you think we are to blame for.

To my mind the replys from these fine Mason fellows is all the proof one needs to know
Masons cannot be honest
Stop, you had me at "my mind" :D:D:D:D

Mike

[banoyes]

Yeah 15 out of 43 is a real majority innit??

US-PRESIDENTS: George Washington, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, James Polk, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, James Garfield, William McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Warren G. Harding, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson, Gerald R. Ford.

Thomas Jefferson,William H. Harrison , Ulysses S. Grant, Illuminati,John Calvin Coolidge,Skull and Bones,Grover Cleveland , Rutherford Birchard Hayes Skull and Bones, Franklin Roosevelt,Holland Lodge No. 8, Ronald Regan, Knight Malta,On Sight Freemason, Rosicrucian, Bill Clinton,DeMolay,George Bush,GW Bush,Skull and Bones... 25
Don't even bother saying Skull and Bones/Illuminati, is not Freemasonry,your BS is deep enough already

Also consider the length of the terms ,hell FDR made em change the rule
18 of the 46 U.S. Vice Presidents (39%) have been Freemasons

From 1789 to the present, there have been 108 Justices of the United States Supreme Court. Depending on which source is consulted, 34, 36, 38, or 40 of them have been Freemasons. This means about one-third of the Supreme Court Justices were Masons

67% of Members of Congress were Masons.but..
just coincidence
acording to Freemason logic

http://www.globalrapidinfo.com/article_a.php?cid=A-20080919013302-FBExPscGoZrJR&cat=svoGDplHTyAt&country=1
http://www.savethemales.ca/000768.html
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/uspresidentasmasons.htm


Errm - no they're not. Does the word WRONG figure in your vocabulary?
Prince Charles Coat of Arms has another symbol--The Order of the Garter. The Order of the Garter is the parent organization over Free Masonry, world-wide. When a man becomes a 33rd Degree Mason, he swears allegiance to that organization, and thereby to Prince Charles.

All male Royals are Freemasons

Just more of the same, deny,deny,mis-direct,lie
I am done with you
Just too tedious
The chance of a Freemason being honest is zero

[keystone]

Trouble is he seems (no this is not an insult it's what he demonstrates) to be congenitally incapable of answering these points. If he's on form the next in-coming will be another diatribe of ditto repeating the same old stuff.

PS This was written in response to Post 132 as 133 was being written

[keystone]

Don't even bother saying Skull and Bones/Illuminati, is not Freemasonry,your BS is deep enough alreadyGuess what IT ISN'T!! That's one of the biggest mistakes you make when you try and pin everything on the "evil freemasons". The BS imprinted on you by others is so profoundly deep that you are close to drowning in it. You have totally been conned as regards freemasonry. I thouht you had more intelligence than that. I was wrong it seems, you seem to be a conspiracy sheep.

Also consider the length of the terms ,hell FDR made em change the rule
18 of the 46 U.S. Vice Presidents (39%) have been Freemasons

From 1789 to the present, there have been 108 Justices of the United States Supreme Court. Depending on which source is consulted, 34, 36, 38, or 40 of them have been Freemasons. This means about one-third of the Supreme Court Justices were Masons

67% of Members of Congress were Masons.but..
just coincidence
acording to Freemason logicYour simplistic analysis is worthy of the second grade frankly.

Prince Charles Coat of Arms has another symbol--The Order of the Garter. The Order of the Garter is the parent organization over Free Masonry, world-wide. When a man becomes a 33rd Degree Mason, he swears allegiance to that organization, and thereby to Prince Charles.Where do you get this rubbish? It's NOT TRUE.

All male Royals are FreemasonsNo they are not.

Just more of the same, deny,deny,mis-direct,lie
I am done with you
Just too tedious
The chance of a Freemason being honest is zeroBoring - what did I say in my last post? Seems I was right then.

[banoyes]

Read ANY of keystones posts.
Do you see anything but.deny deny ,deny
oohh the oft superior toney barb
Other then that
Nothing
not a word of substance
The perfect Freemason

[keystone]

Read ANY of keystones posts.
Do you see anything but.deny deny ,deny
oohh the oft superior toney barb
Other then that
Nothing
not a word of substance
The perfect FreemasonWhat a cop-out this is! Come on then don't fuck about. Prove here and now that EVERY male member of the Royal Family is a Freemason. Mike Martin has told you the truth yet you won't accept it because someone else told you something else.

Yes I deny it because it isn't true - its a LIE.

Prove me wrong and I'll back off. When you do I'll be honest enough to say I'm wrong. Can you do that? Can you say you might be wrong?

Go one try and be honest with yourself just on this one little teensy point please.

PS

and sarcasm doesn't become you BTW.

[mike martin]

Read ANY of keystones posts.
Do you see anything but.deny deny ,deny
oohh the oft superior toney barb
Other then that
Nothing
not a word of substance
The perfect Freemason

Errr, why don't you try addressing my points, I am not keystone.

You also do not see "deny, deny, deny" in my responses, you see FACT-based refutations.

The only one out of you and me just denying is you, if fact you don't even seem to deny, you just ignore the rather inconvenient facts in favor of your programming.

For example in the world outside of your imagination, HRH Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales, does not like Freemasonry because his father and uncle didn't like it. His father, the Duke of Edinburgh doesn't like it because he felt he should join in 1952 purely to please his Father in Law and has never attended a meeting since.

So like I said before, why don't you try doing some research (if you're capable) of your own (and I don't mean just re-reading the lies that you have already been unfortunate enough to have seen) to see if the facts of your sources tie up with real world.

Mike

[mike martin]

Prince Charles Coat of Arms has another symbol--The Order of the Garter. The Order of the Garter is the parent organization over Free Masonry, world-wide. When a man becomes a 33rd Degree Mason, he swears allegiance to that organization, and thereby to Prince Charles.


The Order of the Garter is nothing whatsoever to do with Freemasonry. It is a Royal "honour".

No 33rd swears allegiance to Prince Charles this really is one of the biggest piles of guff I think I've seen. You can test the logic of that for yourself, try this:

How old is Prince Charles?
How old is the Antient and Accepted Rite?

Oooh the AAR is about 150 years older that Prince Charles, well that can't be right. Oh and hang on why exactly would a 33rd in the US swear allegiance to any member of the Royal family.

Ohh someone told me a lie.

You see that's how logic works, you should try it sometime.

Mike

[kimball13]

good thread,,,and by the way i am neither a Mason or a Catholic yet i am baptized at birth as well as by birthright the hereditary Leader of the Templars as well as the Church:confused:confused yet, im not, watch star wars and dune again:cool:and take with a grain or a whole barrel of salt if neaded...Hapsburg and other's are shaking can you tell:Dnot that i am the warrior king or anything like that (my hands are cleaner than any pasifist i know.......Here's a concept that if ya think about it is true, Hug a nazi create a liberal, slap a liberal create a nazi,,,my point is a person is not the label they choose a person will always revert to there true self when the rubber meets the road (unless ya got a flat):cool:Now heres a ? how can i be the top dog without ever being one, abswer-Once and Future King-:eek:I have made a decision shut the church down as well as all masonic lodge's, i will only deal with the Templar's and Knight's of malta i just hope that not all of them bought there knighthoods, oh ya and the order of saint John, i have already aproached the Native Americans and they are still trying to figure out wether or not im special force's or if i am who i say i am, to some of them i am known as Weho peyata eh mani tahoopa hooa lowa...It has sucked big time being the subject of prophecy while i just wanted to have a family and rais my children yet because of stupidity i have to become myself(darn)

So to sumize, the Church, the masons, liberals, terrorists and a few other groups are all a part of the problem, especialy the Catholic church, the Church is the oldest Intelgence aparatis in existance and that is a historical fact,,,,,,,:pso why is it that every church is not considers an embasy:confused:

[kimball13]

oh by the way my hereditay prophetic position is only one of solveing disputes as well as advising/consulting and when neaded declareing WAR!!!!!!! I do hold rightfull claim to sevral crowns of europe as well as Jerusalem and who knows maybe even a native american chief:confused: oh ya and then there is the merovigian/frankish daggobert/long haired light bending rainbow King, then there is the Mark on my thigh:eek:

[keystone]

oh by the way my hereditay prophetic position is only one of solveing disputes as well as advising/consulting and when neaded declareing WAR!!!!!!! I do hold rightfull claim to sevral crowns of europe as well as Jerusalem and who knows maybe even a native american chief:confused: oh ya and then there is the merovigian/frankish daggobert/long haired light bending rainbow King, then there is the Mark on my thigh:eek:Sorry this is getting off topic but I have to ask. What do you know of the one who calls himself Starjade?

[edelweiss pirate]

Why is Ban Freakmasons on warning and the mason trolls allowed to run free?

I find that very strange.

May I helpfully suggest that something is not quite as it should be here...

[keystone]

Why is Ban Freakmasons on warning and the mason trolls allowed to run free?

I find that very strange.

May I helpfully suggest that something is not quite as it should be here...What a pathetic post! :(

[mike martin]

Why is Ban Freakmasons on warning and the mason trolls allowed to run free?

I find that very strange.

May I helpfully suggest that something is not quite as it should be here...

Remembering the rules of the Forum, I'd take it up with a Moderator or the Forum Manager privately.

My guess though is that it is probably down to their continuously insulting posts.

Mike

[marpat]

Read ANY of keystones posts.
Do you see anything but.deny deny ,deny
oohh the oft superior toney barb
Other then that
Nothing
not a word of substance
The perfect Freemason

I actually find him and Mike very informative. They have good, solid arguements which are based on facts and not speculations. They certainly have the upper hand on those who are not as well armed with facts.

[edelweiss pirate]

What a pathetic post! :(

Is that you in the avatar....?

Nahh, I bet you're much slimier.

You know I'm right though. Your posts seem somehow to ooze insincerity and 'ass for rent' politics.

So these are the freemasons are they? Those who rule our world?

What a bunch of wankers.

[keystone]

Is that you in the avatar....?

Nahh, I bet you're much slimier.

You know I'm right though. Your posts seem somehow to ooze insincerity and 'ass for rent' politics.

So these are the freemasons are they? Those who rule our world?

What a bunch of wankers.and an even more pathetic response.