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drhemp
29-09-2008, 03:24 PM
The Rich Are Staging a Coup This Morning ...a message from Michael Moore

Friends,

Let me cut to the chase. The biggest robbery in the history of this country is taking place as you read this. Though no guns are being used, 300 million hostages are being taken. Make no mistake about it: After stealing a half trillion dollars to line the pockets of their war-profiteering backers for the past five years, after lining the pockets of their fellow oilmen to the tune of over a hundred billion dollars in just the last two years, Bush and his cronies -- who must soon vacate the White House -- are looting the U.S. Treasury of every dollar they can grab. They are swiping as much of the silverware as they can on their way out the door.

No matter what they say, no matter how many scare words they use, they are up to their old tricks of creating fear and confusion in order to make and keep themselves and the upper one percent filthy rich. Just read the first four paragraphs of the lead story in last Monday's New York Times and you can see what the real deal is:

"Even as policy makers worked on details of a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry, Wall Street began looking for ways to profit from it.

"Financial firms were lobbying to have all manner of troubled investments covered, not just those related to mortgages.

"At the same time, investment firms were jockeying to oversee all the assets that Treasury plans to take off the books of financial institutions, a role that could earn them hundreds of millions of dollars a year in fees.

"Nobody wants to be left out of Treasury's proposal to buy up bad assets of financial institutions."
Unbelievable. Wall Street and its backers created this mess and now they are going to clean up like bandits. Even Rudy Giuliani is lobbying for his firm to be hired (and paid) to "consult" in the bailout.

The problem is, nobody truly knows what this "collapse" is all about. Even Treasury Secretary Paulson admitted he doesn't know the exact amount that is needed (he just picked the $700 billion number out of his head!). The head of the congressional budget office said he can't figure it out nor can he explain it to anyone.

And yet, they are screeching about how the end is near! Panic! Recession! The Great Depression! Y2K! Bird flu! Killer bees! We must pass the bailout bill today!! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Falling for whom? NOTHING in this "bailout" package will lower the price of the gas you have to put in your car to get to work. NOTHING in this bill will protect you from losing your home. NOTHING in this bill will give you health insurance.

Health insurance? Mike, why are you bringing this up? What's this got to do with the Wall Street collapse?

It has everything to do with it. This so-called "collapse" was triggered by the massive defaulting and foreclosures going on with people's home mortgages. Do you know why so many Americans are losing their homes? To hear the Republicans describe it, it's because too many working class idiots were given mortgages that they really couldn't afford. Here's the truth: The number one cause of people declaring bankruptcy is because of medical bills. Let me state this simply: If we had had universal health coverage, this mortgage "crisis" may never have happened.

This bailout's mission is to protect the obscene amount of wealth that has been accumulated in the last eight years. It's to protect the top shareholders who own and control corporate America. It's to make sure their yachts and mansions and "way of life" go uninterrupted while the rest of America suffers and struggles to pay the bills. Let the rich suffer for once. Let them pay for the bailout. We are spending 400 million dollars a day on the war in Iraq. Let them end the war immediately and save us all another half-trillion dollars!

I have to stop writing this and you have to stop reading it. They are staging a financial coup this morning in our country. They are hoping Congress will act fast before they stop to think, before we have a chance to stop them ourselves. So stop reading this and do something -- NOW! Here's what you can do immediately:

1. Call or e-mail Senator Obama. Tell him he does not need to be sitting there trying to help prop up Bush and Cheney and the mess they've made. Tell him we know he has the smarts to slow this thing down and figure out what's the best route to take. Tell him the rich have to pay for whatever help is offered. Use the leverage we have now to insist on a moratorium on home foreclosures, to insist on a move to universal health coverage, and tell him that we the people need to be in charge of the economic decisions that affect our lives, not the barons of Wall Street.

2. Take to the streets. Participate in one of the hundreds of quickly-called demonstrations that are taking place all over the country (especially those near Wall Street and DC).

3. Call your Representative in Congress and your Senators. (click here to find their phone numbers). Tell them what you told Senator Obama.

When you screw up in life, there is hell to pay. Each and every one of you reading this knows that basic lesson and has paid the consequences of your actions at some point. In this great democracy, we cannot let there be one set of rules for the vast majority of hard-working citizens, and another set of rules for the elite, who, when they screw up, are handed one more gift on a silver platter. No more! Not again!

Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com

P.S. Having read further the details of this bailout bill, you need to know you are being lied to. They talk about how they will prevent golden parachutes. It says NOTHING about what these executives and fat cats will make in SALARY. According to Rep. Brad Sherman of California, these top managers will continue to receive million-dollar-a-month paychecks under this new bill. There is no direct ownership given to the American people for the money being handed over. Foreign banks and investors will be allowed to receive billion-dollar handouts. A large chunk of this $700 billion is going to be given directly to Chinese and Middle Eastern banks. There is NO guarantee of ever seeing that money again.

P.P.S. From talking to people I know in DC, they say the reason so many Dems are behind this is because Wall Street this weekend put a gun to their heads and said either turn over the $700 billion or the first thing we'll start blowing up are the pension funds and 401(k)s of your middle class constituents. The Dems are scared they may make good on their threat. But this is not the time to back down or act like the typical Democrat we have witnessed for the last eight years. The Dems handed a stolen election over to Bush. The Dems gave Bush the votes he needed to invade a sovereign country. Once they took over Congress in 2007, they refused to pull the plug on the war. And now they have been cowered into being accomplices in the crime of the century. You have to call them now and say "NO!" If we let them do this, just imagine how hard it will be to get anything good done when President Obama is in the White House. THESE DEMOCRATS ARE ONLY AS STRONG AS THE BACKBONE WE GIVE THEM. CALL CONGRESS NOW.

amandaooo
29-09-2008, 04:17 PM
Have no idea why you are talking about Democrats and Republicans as if they are in any way different!!!

drhemp
29-09-2008, 04:46 PM
Not me, it's an article by Micheal Moore that I received in my email this morning, just thought I'd share it on here.

endlessvista
29-09-2008, 04:57 PM
It caters for the same gullible Americans who say they hate Bush but "Support The Troops" as if the two concepts are not the same thing fundementally.

1694
29-09-2008, 05:05 PM
It caters for the same gullible Americans who say they hate Bush but "Support The Troops" as if the two concepts are not the same thing fundementally.

Oh Reginald..... I disagree!

drhemp
29-09-2008, 05:39 PM
It caters for the same gullible Americans who say they hate Bush but "Support The Troops" as if the two concepts are not the same thing fundementally.

He condemns the Democrats for not pulling out of Iraq when they took control of Congress. Read the article, and learn how to spell fundamentally :)

horus13
29-09-2008, 07:24 PM
he's spot on about this though:

et me cut to the chase. The biggest robbery in the history of this country is taking place as you read this. Though no guns are being used, 300 million hostages are being taken. Make no mistake about it: After stealing a half trillion dollars to line the pockets of their war-profiteering backers for the past five years, after lining the pockets of their fellow oilmen to the tune of over a hundred billion dollars in just the last two years, Bush and his cronies -- who must soon vacate the White House -- are looting the U.S. Treasury of every dollar they can grab. They are swiping as much of the silverware as they can on their way out the door.

norton
29-09-2008, 09:46 PM
any protests in the uk?

mcthompson2x
30-09-2008, 12:35 AM
Frankly, any calls for government run "free healthcare" are highly suspicious. One just needs to look at EVERY OTHER DAMN COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WITH FREE HEALTHCARE. It obviously is not beneficial - it makes the general health of the population worse, and also it allows the government to put people who they deem "bad for the country" at the bottom of critical waiting lists. Population control!

stinky catz
30-09-2008, 12:40 AM
... And learn how to spell fundamentally :)

wow.

drhemp
30-09-2008, 12:44 AM
The National Health Service was introduced after the 2nd World War in Britain and the majority of Brits I would say see this as a good thing. The problem is the NHS is abused by our politicians; since Labour came into power, they have pumped billions more pounds into the health service, but most of this has gone on bureaucracies and administrators.

The principal of free health care is a good one, the problem is they are often happy to spend the money expensive allopathic medicines when in fact they could save money on more effective and cheaper alternative remedies or treatments.

At least if I'm run over by a bus tomorrow, then I am taken to a hospital and treated free of charge, without them first looking to see if have medical insurance, though agreed, just about the only time I would want Western Medicine, would be in the event of an accident, as I think Western Medicine is very good at repairing bones and putting bodies back together, but they can keep their pharmeceutical poisons to themselves.

endlessvista
30-09-2008, 12:46 AM
He condemns the Democrats for not pulling out of Iraq when they took control of Congress. Read the article, and learn how to spell fundamentally :)

They did not repeal the Patriot Act either. Even though they had a chance to do that as well.

Michael Moore is an establishment stooge. State-sanctioned radicalism. He is a safety valve for certain Americans who are deeply concerned about their carbon footprint so they put a bumper sticker on their SUV with something like "THE EARTH IS NOT YOUR ASHTRAY" so they can then drive to the polling booth to vote for Obama in an epiphany of self-rightous smugness.

I know I spelled that incorrect too, but I couldn't give a fuck so can just go suck my big Irish dick.

mcthompson2x
30-09-2008, 12:50 AM
BTW, who isn't aware that Michael Moore is a paid government propagandist?

bendoon
30-09-2008, 12:55 AM
Nothing new here, Moore shifting the blame away from the real culprits.

Just like he did in farenheit 911.

But, having said that a lot of what he says there is true so maybe he isn't as bad as I thought.

drhemp
30-09-2008, 12:59 AM
They did not repeal the Patriot Act either. Even though they had a chance to do that as well.


Indeed, they're crap aren't they.


Michael Moore is an establishment stooge. State-sanctioned radicalism. He is a safety valve for certain Americans who are deeply concerned about their carbon footprint so they put a bumper sticker on their SUV with something like "THE EARTH IS NOT YOUR ASHTRAY" so they can then drive to the polling booth to vote for Obama in an epiphany of self-rightous smugness.


I've read a few of his books, and I have to say I liked them, he's very funny and a good writer. I see him as someone who joins some dots, but not enough of them. I don't think he's a bad man. Have you ever read any of his books? He's very critical of Bu$h, ok he doesn't go far enough, but would you prefer there was no dissent or criticism of Bu$h?



I know I spelled that incorrect too, but I couldn't give a fuck so can just go suck my big Irish dick.

Steady on, I was only joking and only noticed, coz my computer underlines spelling mistakes, and as for sucking your dick, erm .... thanks for the offer but, no thanks :D

endlessvista
30-09-2008, 01:03 AM
Steady on, I was only joking and only noticed, coz my computer underlines spelling mistakes, and as for sucking your dick, erm .... thanks for the offer but, no thanks :D

and I only just washed it. I feel so let down! ;)

drhemp
30-09-2008, 01:04 AM
and I only just washed it. I feel so let down! ;)

ROFL, sorry mate, but I've just cleaned my teeth.

onourwayto2012
30-09-2008, 02:00 AM
One of the side effects of "awakening" is no longer feeling the need to conform to the Illuminati imposed grammar rules.
edit: I'm not even sure who I was being saecastis about....sorry. Hahaaha I left in my original spelling of sarcastic.

onourwayto2012
30-09-2008, 02:04 AM
They did not repeal the Patriot Act either. Even though they had a chance to do that as well.

Michael Moore is an establishment stooge. State-sanctioned radicalism. He is a safety valve for certain Americans who are deeply concerned about their carbon footprint so they put a bumper sticker on their SUV with something like "THE EARTH IS NOT YOUR ASHTRAY" so they can then drive to the polling booth to vote for Obama in an epiphany of self-rightous smugness.

I know I spelled that incorrect too, but I couldn't give a fuck so can just go suck my big Irish dick.

Amen brother... those SUV Obamanites are revolting

cycles of time
30-09-2008, 02:28 AM
nah,the biggest robbery of this country is when europeans drifted over on their boats,only to commit the worst act of genocide in the history of the humanity,and then rape and pillage the natural resources of the land,and claim it as its own,and then to refer to the indiginious people as "illegal aliens"

cycles of time
30-09-2008, 02:29 AM
tbh the problem is europeans. most of them have a genetic defect which leads to narcissism /megalomania.

the defect is quite prominent in the european population.

endlessvista
30-09-2008, 02:31 AM
nah,the biggest robbery of this country is when europeans drifted over on their boats,only to commit the worst act of genocide in the history of the humanity,and then rape and pillage the natural resources of the land,and claim it as its own,and then to refer to the indiginious people as "illegal aliens"

The thing is they did that shit on their own people before and after the founded the USA.

endlessvista
30-09-2008, 02:33 AM
tbh the problem is europeans. most of them have a genetic defect which leads to narcissism /megalomania.

the defect is quite prominent in the european population.


That's a human trait, not only a European one. Read up on Nanking, Dafur, Armenia, The Kurds and of course the West Bank if you do not beleive me.

bendoon
30-09-2008, 02:56 AM
nah,the biggest robbery of this country is when europeans drifted over on their boats,only to commit the worst act of genocide in the history of the humanity,and then rape and pillage the natural resources of the land,and claim it as its own,and then to refer to the indiginious people as "illegal aliens"

Europeans were in North America first, they were killed off by immigrants from Asia.

Google Kennewick man

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Kennewickmanstanford.jpg

mynameis
30-09-2008, 03:24 AM
Europeans were in North America first, they were killed off by immigrants from Asia.

Google Kennewick man

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Kennewickmanstanford.jpg

Actually the skeletal features of the Kennewick man are Ainu peoples, not Europeans.

bendoon
30-09-2008, 03:37 AM
Actually the skeletal features of the Kennewick man are Ainu peoples, not Europeans.

In the politically correct world yes, in the real world no.

mynameis
30-09-2008, 03:39 AM
In the politically correct world yes, in the real world no.

The educated world isn't political. Your educated opinion is not a doctorate in anthropology; so I think I'll take the educated view; instead of the view of a garbage spewer on David Icke's forums; TYVM!

bendoon
30-09-2008, 03:52 AM
The educated world isn't political. Your educated opinion is not a doctorate in anthropology; so I think I'll take the educated view; instead of the view of a garbage spewer on David Icke's forums; TYVM!

The educated people know, the PC indoctrinated people know but lie.

The "native" americans are not native, there have been thousands of artifacts found that predate them.

mynameis
30-09-2008, 03:57 AM
The educated people know, the PC indoctrinated people know but lie.

The "native" americans are not native, there have been thousands of artifacts found that predate them.

As I thought, you are all talk, with no proof and no credibility. Have a nice day. :D

guuna
30-09-2008, 04:00 AM
any protests in the uk?

Nah, you must be kidding. Over here Knight of Malta and Bilderberger Brown and his fawning bunch of acolytes just make the decision and its a done friggin deal.:mad:

guuna
30-09-2008, 04:05 AM
Europeans were in North America first, they were killed off by immigrants from Asia.

Google Kennewick man

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Kennewickmanstanford.jpg

I'm not joining in any arguments here, but doesn't this sort of tie in with recent discoveries in South America that suggest that some mummies discovered there were in fact of blonde hair and fair skinned caucasian type. This dating from 1500 years ago.

bendoon
30-09-2008, 04:10 AM
I'm not joining in any arguments here, but doesn't this sort of tie in with recent discoveries in South America that suggest that some mummies discovered there were in fact of blonde hair and fair skinned caucasian type. This dating from 1500 years ago.

Yes. Also the Mummies in China from 3500 years ago with blonde and red hair dressed in Tartan.

History is very different to what we are led to believe and is supressed for PC reasons.

People on here should know better than trying to supress the truth.

mynameis
30-09-2008, 04:15 AM
I'm not joining in any arguments here, but doesn't this sort of tie in with recent discoveries in South America that suggest that some mummies discovered there were in fact of blonde hair and fair skinned caucasian type. This dating from 1500 years ago.

North America was settled more than 1500 years ago, try near 40,000+!


http://www.mexicanfootprints.co.uk/

mynameis
30-09-2008, 04:19 AM
Yes. Also the Mummies in China from 3500 years ago with blonde and red hair dressed in Tartan.

History is very different to what we are led to believe and is supressed for PC reasons.

People on here should know better than trying to supress the truth.

Your mummies in the Gobi are part of the silk road trade to Rome and Europe. The Taklamakan mummies are dated to 1000 B.C.E which is 1000 years before Christ; this isn't significant at all.

guuna
30-09-2008, 04:25 AM
North America was settled more than 1500 years ago, try near 40,000+!


http://www.mexicanfootprints.co.uk/

I didn't make any statements as to when it was first settled, plus the mummies in question here were in South America, not North, all that I said was that these mummies date from before conventional wisdom would indicate that people of this description (I assume caucasians) were present in North America.

According to bog-standard Academia the first Europeans to set foot in North America were Columbus and explorers that followed on from him. This would cast some doubt on that.

bendoon
30-09-2008, 04:30 AM
Your mummies in the Gobi are part of the silk road trade to Rome and Europe. The Taklamakan mummies are dated to 1000 B.C.E which is 1000 years before Christ; this isn't significant at all.

Mair concluded (Mair etc al, 2006):

"From the evidence available, we have found that during the first 1,000 years after the Loulan Beauty, the only settlers in the Tarim Basin were Caucasoid. East Asian peoples only began showing up in the eastern portions of the Tarim Basin about 3,000 years ago, Mair said, while the Uighur peoples arrived after the collapse of the Orkon Uighur Kingdom, largely based in modern day Mongolia, around the year 842."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies

mynameis
30-09-2008, 04:33 AM
I didn't make any statements as to when it was first settled, all that I said was that these mummies date from before conventional wisdom would indicate that people of this description (I assume caucasians) were present in North America.

According to bog-standard Academia the first Europeans to set foot in North America were Columbus and explorers that followed on from him. This would cast some doubt on that.

Kenniwick man 8000 BCE > Taklamakan mummies 1000 BCE.

Kenniwick man is older than the Taklamakan and makes Taklamaken insignificant as they do not co-exist. Kenniwick man has no distinguishing features of European people.

http://www.travel-destination-pictures.com/data/media/69/ainu-elder-japan_1399.jpg

As you can see above the Ainu people do not resemble Europeans.

mynameis
30-09-2008, 04:42 AM
I didn't make any statements as to when it was first settled, plus the mummies in question here were in South America, not North, all that I said was that these mummies date from before conventional wisdom would indicate that people of this description (I assume caucasians) were present in North America.

According to bog-standard Academia the first Europeans to set foot in North America were Columbus and explorers that followed on from him. This would cast some doubt on that.

I don't know about any South American mummies yet. If you have some better information...

guuna
30-09-2008, 04:51 AM
Kenniwick man 8000 BCE > Taklamakan mummies 1000 BCE.

Kenniwick man is older than the Taklamakan and makes Taklamaken insignificant as they do not co-exist. Kenniwick man has no distinguishing features of European people.

http://www.travel-destination-pictures.com/data/media/69/ainu-elder-japan_1399.jpg

As you can see above the Ainu people do not resemble Europeans.

That's good, but your losing me a bit here. Does this relate to the South American mummies, I think that this is more to do with the silk route thread of another topic.

fist fury
30-09-2008, 05:05 AM
That's Eurocentrism, claiming all 'western' people as being European. Back then Europe was barely populated.

Negroid skulls were also found in South America before Native Americans appeared. Does that mean the Americas belong to Africa? It sounds silly right.

There existed many different phenotypes tens of thousands of years ago, Europeans are only a subset, that managed to survive to the present day. It would be like calling your great-great-great-grandfather's cousin your brother.

guuna
30-09-2008, 05:32 AM
That's Eurocentrism, claiming all 'western' people as being European. Back then Europe was barely populated.

Negroid skulls were also found in South America before Native Americans appeared. Does that mean the Americas belong to Africa? It sounds silly right.

There existed many different phenotypes tens of thousands of years ago, Europeans are only a subset, that managed to survive to the present day. It would be like calling your great-great-great-grandfather's cousin your brother.

Hmm.. that's your opinion. And you know what they say about opinions.

Actually this thread is going rather off topic.

hw spartan
30-09-2008, 06:35 AM
if i was rich, like the rich, hehe:o
il be stageing a coup EVERYMORNING
hahaha and hang around hyde park hahaha:eek:

amandaooo
30-09-2008, 11:28 AM
That is not the Kennewick man
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Kennewickmanstanford.jpg


- that is Captain Jean-Luc Picard :eek:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/a/a0/Jean_Luc_Picard_2364.jpg/292px-Jean_Luc_Picard_2364.jpg