Wise Guru/echos David Icke

[informationx]

Hi folks,

Take a look at this amazing man. His speech echos a lot of what David Icke talks about.

Yoga Means Union - YouTube

His name is SADHGURU Jaggi Vasudev

Cheers!

[thirdwave]

very cool, cheers for that..

[john white]

Well worth checking out. Must find out more about this guy

[shodan]

This is brilliant, cheers.

[emma royds]

Well worth checking out. Must find out more about this guy

You only have to put the word sadhguru in google and it fetches up lots of links about him.

[john white]

You only have to put the word sadhguru in google and it fetches up lots of links about him.

Well thanks Emma, I know how to do that

'tis called a cautious endorsement:

As in "I like the message of the ten minute movie and am prepared to find the time to find out more, what with it being a busy Saturday and all, and me having a life" :)

[JohnDee]

just another white brotherhood asset on a ''initiate the massess into the luciferian believesystem'' mission. it does get old by now imo although i find it amazing how quick and easy some folks are duped by an apparantly empowering message wrapped in fancy rethoric.

http://www.ishafoundation.org/common/images/banner.jpg

oh yes everything is nice and beautyfull just look within and ignore the outside world with all its distracting pesky little facts.
like his connection to the United Nations.

Universality is the bedrock of Isha Foundation. While guiding individuals towards the experience of inner peace, Sadhguru also works with the world's pre-eminent leaders and international institutions to foster peace, global understanding and cooperation.

As a delegate to the United Nations Millennium Peace Summit, Sadhguru works tirelessly to impart the goals established therein through his grass-root level activities and speaking engagements around the world. Public meetings, frequently conducted by him, can draw over 100,000 people at a time, and serve as a powerful inspiration to consciously walk the inner path to well-being and peace.

Isha Foundation works actively with world bodies such as the United Nations through its various initiatives and events. Sadhguru often addresses the deterioration of human and social values and ecological degradation. He encourages individuals to take responsibility for their own well-being as well as that of the world.

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[emma royds]

Well thanks Emma, I know how to do that

'tis called a cautious endorsement:

As in "I like the message of the ten minute movie and am prepared to find the time to find out more, what with it being a busy Saturday and all, and me having a life" :)

I think you've mis-understood me John, sorry for not being a little clearer, but my post was not really directed at you personally, it was directed at everyone to basically say that it is worth googling the name as it comes up with lots of links. I guess you can't beat communication in person as a way of expressing yourself clearly and concisely.

[emma royds]

just another white brotherhood asset on a ''initiate the massess into the luciferian believesystem'' mission. it does get old by now imo although i find it amazing how quick and easy some folks are duped by an apparantly empowering message wrapped in fancy rethoric.

http://www.ishafoundation.org/common/images/banner.jpg

oh yes everything is nice and beautyfull just look within and ignore the outside world with all its distracting pesky little facts.
like his connection to the United Nations.



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http://www.ishafoundation.org/home.asp

http://www.ishafoundation.org/worldpeace/images/idp_new.jpg
http://www.ishafoundation.org/worldpeace/default.asp

There's nothing quite like a negative attitude is there. Sometimes it is best to see the good in people. Negativity breeds negativity.

[john white]

I think you've mis-understood me John, sorry for not being a little clearer, but my post was not really directed at you personally, it was directed at everyone to basically say that it is worth googling the name as it comes up with lots of links. I guess you can't beat communication in person as a way of expressing yourself clearly and concisely.


Aw shucks! So true!

[mcmenek1]

Hi informationx,

Thanks for the link :) .......I found him very interesting.......he seemed to talk a lot of sense.

Love
&
Peace

[john white]

There's nothing quite like a negative attitude is there. Sometimes it is best to see the good in people. Negativity breeds negativity.

I agree with you here too emma!

Its also important to recognise that everything genuine also gets infiltrated: the negatively dominated lusting for physical and temporal power need to dress themselves in the outer garment of the godly: we must look deeper than surfaces and not make knee-jerk reactions to what we fear something may be

My benchmark is: "does this advance love for humanity?"

[rossus]

i like him.

never saw a "guru" dude speak so fluently. osho for example, speaks very slowly and gives the impression of being high on dope.

this guy, looks like an average western man... very sober :)

[king]

just another white brotherhood asset on a ''initiate the massess into the luciferian believesystem'' mission. it does get old by now imo although i find it amazing how quick and easy some folks are duped by an apparantly empowering message wrapped in fancy rethoric.

http://www.ishafoundation.org/common/images/banner.jpg

oh yes everything is nice and beautyfull just look within and ignore the outside world with all its distracting pesky little facts.
like his connection to the United Nations.



http://www.ishafoundation.org/common/images/logo_tri.gif
http://www.ishafoundation.org/home.asp

http://www.ishafoundation.org/worldpeace/images/idp_new.jpg
http://www.ishafoundation.org/worldpeace/default.asp


great job JohnDee

look at that symbolism and connections to Lucifer worshiper ideology and their monolith organizations

the moment this guy opened his mouth -- i knew what he was getting at:

everything becomes one
all existence is just one energy
everything is one
yoga means union
experience of ... blah.. blah

one, all one, oneness, one, oneness.. one NA religion.. blah, blah
he even cited Einstein's E=mc2 formula!
wow! there is a scientific proof!
</sarcasm>


Hinduism is the base of Masonic New Age oneness religion that PTBs
are still pushing on westerners who still keep falling for it.

it would serve people better to be more cautious, more independent thinking.


it is funny how a Hindu guy with towel on his head is perceived differently
than an arab with (also) towel on his head. First one is perceived as a wise guy, second is a religious fanatic?!

why is that people are not falling for Islamic ideology but they are so easily falling
for Hinduism?

don’t people know that Masonic New Age religion builds upon Hinduism?
And, why not? Hinduism has a caste system, perfect for Masonic cunts who are planning to stay on top.

haven’t the people heard of Blavatsky and theosophical society and the ideas that they brought from Hinduism in order to change the west?

BTW, what was that this towel head had tried to convey?


“we need to find door handle of our sensations”

faaak, I think I have found more than that – I found 3 car wide garage door that leads to
“my sensations” and the door is wide open and it never closes.

:lol:

I cannot believe that people actually found this guy interesting


BTW, the way this guy sounds like Icke or Icke sounds like this dude is simple -- Icke spent some time in India, where he was introduced to Hindu oneness masonic New Age thing.

are we catching a drift?

I do not get it -- why are people still looking OUTSIDE of themselves for the solutions that were always and still are WITHIN each and everyone of us?

[john white]

You do know that's the mayan oneness symbol your using as an avatar there?

Just checking.....

[smoking oceanus]

Well, its all nice and everything but the only difference between this guy and many of us on this forum is that; he speaks into a microphone in front of a bunch of people, and we dont.

The fundamental wisdom contained within us is pretty much the same.

[king]

You do know that's the mayan oneness symbol your using as an avatar there?

Just checking.....




The Galactic Butterfly represent all of the consciousness that's ever existed in our galaxy.

The consciousness of all living things.

The consciousness that organized raw materials into
a whirling disk of stars, planets and solar systems.

God. but not Masonic god that is sold to people as light and oneness.

The Greeks believed butterflies to be human souls flying to heaven.
They also likened them to cognitive thoughts and spirits. This is
actually where the term "Psyche" comes from.

When a caterpillar forms a cocoon and begins to change, new cells
appear called "imaginal cells." They resonate at a different frequency
than the old cells making them seem so different that it's immune
systems actually attacks them as enemies.


Through the birth of creativity the caterpillar slowly begins to realize
it's becoming something different, new, wonderful and evolved. Now
as a butterfly, the cells no longer fight to survive. Instead
they begin to create. Each cell with it's own assignmentt. Performing
the task that's most natural to it. Creating pigment, wings, and new
instincts.

Galactic Butterfly is about shedding old ideas and giving birth to new
ones. The fight and flight to become something different. Powerful.
And consciously creative.

so, no -- it is not about oneness as someone may suggest because oneness is a Masonic term with an agenda behind it.

[thirdwave]

I think oneness is a universal term....

yes masons understand it and use it to their advantage... but it does not mean it cant be used as a possative advantage....

Jedi or Sith ?

[john white]

so, no -- it is not about oneness as someone may suggest because oneness is a Masonic term with an agenda behind it.

Sure it is. If you'd like to explain to me how a symbol representing...

The Galactic Butterfly represent all of the consciousness that's ever existed in our galaxy

...isnt about reconciling all into one, I'd love to here it

What else, apart from consciousness is there?

Whilst we are at it...

one, all one, oneness, one, oneness.. one NA religion.. blah, blah
he even cited Einstein's E=mc2 formula!
wow! there is a scientific proof!
</sarcasm>

OK, so Einstein is obviously "in on it" as far as your concerned...

Fine so we fall back on the newtonian model... Isaac Newton being one of the foremost occultists and freemasons of his day....

[tru3]

just another white brotherhood asset on a ''initiate the massess into the luciferian believesystem'' mission. it does get old by now imo although i find it amazing how quick and easy some folks are duped by an apparantly empowering message wrapped in fancy rethoric.

http://www.ishafoundation.org/common/images/banner.jpg

oh yes everything is nice and beautyfull just look within and ignore the outside world with all its distracting pesky little facts.
like his connection to the United Nations.



http://www.ishafoundation.org/common/images/logo_tri.gif
http://www.ishafoundation.org/home.asp

http://www.ishafoundation.org/worldpeace/images/idp_new.jpg
http://www.ishafoundation.org/worldpeace/default.asp

that vid is actually one of the best short explanations of the subjective nature of reality i've seen.

i don't think he's saying ignore the outside world; i'm getting that he's saying there is no outside world, really.

the world doesn't have to change for me to get what i want, which is primarily peace, specifically peace of mind.

like he said, the only way to 'know' about these matters is direct personal experience. reading a book about oneness is not the same as experiencing it first hand. seeing a cat and reading a book on cat biology is not the same as being a cat.

if ishayoga doesn't float one's boat, find something that does. there are a thousand doors to liberation, and we are still the ones who must open that door. jmo.

[bigus_dickus]

it is funny how a Hindu guy with towel on his head is perceived differently
than an arab with (also) towel on his head. First one is perceived as a wise guy, second is a religious fanatic?!

occasionally they are perceived as top notch boeing pilots.

[king]

Sure it is. If you'd like to explain to me how a symbol representing...



...isnt about reconciling all into one, I'd love to here it

What else, apart from consciousness is there?

Whilst we are at it...



i have no problem with one universal consciousness that all living things are part of. I believe that this is exactly so.
but i have problem with Masonic BS agendas that are being repeated ad nauseum by typical new agers who cannot even begin to understand bigger picture -- that all spiritual growth MUST come from inside, from within.

because, various Masonic sects have perverted the meaning of God and universal consciousness.

and, the true the meaning is -- we are all unique individuals, not self replicating clones that oneness agenda is trying to mold us into.

and, as long as we are different -- we are safe, but once we start following
"masters" and "gurus" who are telling us how do we have to live -- then we will be fucked for good.

what people do not understand -- individuality is the essence of humanity,
that is what makes the life worth living.
why the fuck we need to strive towards "oneness" when we are already connected to the universe/God it in most perfect ways -- by being an UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL!?

and those who believe in 'oneness' as presented almost always think that we need to get rid of our individuality.
no, no, no!
that is a masonic trick!

So, Masonic cunts keep pushing that oneness religion (and it is the religion, as long as it pushed on people) and people are still missing the point.
that we already have all that we need WITHIN each and everyone of us.

if we didn't -- we would not be "wasting time" arguing on some internet forum, we would not even know who we are, we would as self-aware as a plant.





OK, so Einstein is obviously "in on it" as far as your concerned...

Fine so we fall back on the newtonian model... Isaac Newton being one of the foremost occultists and freemasons of his day....

Yes, Newton was a rotten apple, that is true, but...Einstein served the the elite really well. He was one of the "change agents". Why do you think elite would support a clerk who worked in patent office, why did they make him a 'super genius' then promoted his theories heavily?
why would they do that -- unless he was advancing their agenda?
what was the consequence of Einstein's "research"?
was is for the good of humanity or for the detriment of humanity?

and, did you really believe that the light was the fastest thing in universe?

check this out:
"The purpose of this Website is to publish 'The Einstein Hoax', with its earlier rigorously derived sources, 'Gravity', and 'Corrections to Special Relativity' included as Appendices. 'The Einstein Hoax' is intended for those who have been suspicious of the premise that reality is so subtle that it can only be understood in terms of sophisticated abstract mathematics to which only the elite were privy. The understanding of reality in concrete terms was presented as being beyond the capability of intelligent individuals. Instead, reality turns out to be readily understandable in terms of common sense reasoning once the smoke and mirrors of mathematical obfuscation and the mathematical and logical errors associated with Special and General Relativity have been removed."

and

Einstein seems to be growing as an American cult hero. He is not only a dominating figure in the sciences but he has a profound influence on the culture. His theory of relativity sends the message that all things are relative in the cosmos, with the strong implication that the realms of morality, truth and culture are relative.

well -- who would benefit from this idea that everything is relative?
would Masonic cunts benefit if they made us believe this?
see, i can kill you and because all is relative, good an evil included -- so my action is open to the interpretation -- it is "relative".
got it?



Stefan Marinov 2005 Oct 07
... aether . Einstein was wrong ...
"Bulgarian genius, physicist professor Stefan Marinov worked during his last years in Graz, Austria. He has discovered the phenomenon of two-componentness of magnetic field, that is the presence scalar component except of known vector magnetic field. On the basis of his theory he has constructed a series of the observational devices, among which the 'Marinov's motor'. ... He has created a method of measuring of a absolute Earth's motion within aether. He has measured a velocity of this motion - 360 +- 30 km/s. Professor Marinov has finally and completely denied Einstein's SRT by this experiment, having shown, that velocity of light summarized according to Galilean Law."


Albert Einstein: The Corruption of the Physics Community 2005 Jul 02
... Einstein was wrong ...
"Proponents of Einstein have acted in a way that appears to corrupt the historical record. Albert Einstein, Time Magazine?s Person of the Century, wrote a long treatise on the special theory of relativity (It was actually called, 'On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies'), without listing any references. Many of the key ideas were known to Lorentz (like the Lorentz transformation), Mileva Maric, his wife, and Poincare before Einstein wrote the famous 1905 paper. As is typical of Einstein---he did not discover theories, he merely commandeered them. For instance the cloud of plagiarism hovers over Einstein with respect to the photoelectric effect, Brownian motion, the structure of the electron, general relativity and E = m c2. Time will tell if this cloud is removed."

Newton and Einstein didn't know what gravity is, and nobody knows to this day. ...

http://www.crank.net/einstein.html
even MSM is talking about it:

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/08/07/australia.lightspeed/index.html

[king]

occasionally they are perceived as top notch boeing pilots.

ROTFL

[john white]

Firstly, i'm not "backing" Einstein King: I'm pointing out that the two models are both imperfect, and if secret society involvment is a defacto problem, immediately tainted

Secondly, i don't recognise the "everyone is a clone" oneness you rightfully decry as the kind of unity described by the guy in the opening vid

God's oneness is the totality of creation: by its very nature, that is equality in our diversity

Its only the greed of mans ego that desire forced conformity: apart from the "elite" of course

Its exactly that point on which me and bassclef used to agree:

As we both agree that all the answers are within

Ultimately, do we reach a point where we have to invest in our own beliefs? That is, our ability to have common purpose whilst being diverse individuals?