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truthseekers
30-04-2009, 05:59 AM
Hi truthseeker. Thank you for that interesting post. I'm sure you are genuine in much of what you say, but I can't help see a bit of a contradiction in someone that calls themself a truthseeker, yet goes around making crop circles, designed to deceive. Please tell me what your motivation is, if not just to satisfy your own ego and laugh at those that may be fooled by your creations.
I checked out your youtube documentary and from what I've seen so far, there is nothing there to convince me that you have made any significant formations at all. It appears to be just a collection of interviews with 'circle-makers' - including the infamous Doug Bower - of Doug & Dave fame. I'm sorry, but I can't take any documentary seriously that gives credance to that pair. Where is the footage of you making the circles? If I have missed it, please forgive me, but surely that's all you need to convince people that you made them. Interviews mean sweet FA. It would also be nice if you explained how you encorporated the advanced geometric features into the designs and staked it all out in pitch darkness. I will certainly look forward to that video! But in the meantime it's just not happening. Cheers!
You see the problem starts immediately with your stating we are doing it to fool people. Thats your assumption. If you had watched the videos you would realise why we do it. Not just skip through them. Properly watch and listen. Its all to easy to sit back and deride me without being heavily interested in the subject and understanding what is being put forth. We are basically interested in the paranomal effects of our making circles.
You are trying to take down the artists who started it all off. They deserve credit for what they did. They made an artform which OTHERS declared was made by aliens. Yes Doug and Dave sat back and kept tight lipped for a long time and were happy to see peoples reactions. Still it wasnt an enforced idea that people had to believe Aliens or Plasma Vortices made the circles, people came up with those ideas themselves. Now people like you are upset because they admitted to what they did and that makes other look stupid. Well would it be better to live in myth, that is the question. If not then Doug and Dave turned the myth around.
The truth is we dont encode any special math or geometrics into our designs. Other interpret that that stuff is tehre but we didnt usually inetnd it. You have to very careful of believing those "researchers" who draw about 700 new lines and circles on what was a simple 5 pointed star and then say look at this intersection at this angle and this angel and nobody could have known that. You can find patterns in anything. Its overcomplicating what we originally did which was quite simple. Bear in mind a lot of the researchers lie about their work too. Who then are the real hoaxers!
You say you want to see how the circles are laid out in a field at night. There was footage of us doing the New Zealand circle which shows us staking out the fields with posts and scribing the design. Perhaps what you want is a tediously painstaking unedited 6 hour video showing every single move and stomp we make, just to make sure theres no fakery or camera tricks and that we can actually do it. Errrrm, well that would be boring and also pointless seeing as editing makes the point well. However I will bear it in mind. It doesnt take a genius to do what we do but not pointing any fingers if you cant see how its done after watching my videos then yes cough cough perhaps someone does need an instructional video to help them see.
Its not rocket science. Any idiot can make a circle. Dedicated circlemakers make good ones because of increased experience. You could go out and do it and then stand back and see people tell you "It wasnt there when I walked my dog earlier and when I walked back it just appeared, so it must have come down in 5 minutes". Then the massive awakeining will happen for you when you realise that we are telling you the truth and people will take your circle and uphold it as magical, paranormal and definately not people. This is the best acid test, not me making videos but you doing circles yourself. Then nobody is fooling you at all, you cant take it all in as it comes to you.
truthseekers
30-04-2009, 06:01 AM
I think if you showed some drawing of future geometric shapes you will make, we could verify some time in the future. Right now it's hear say evidence.
But we have done things like this many times. You say this but really dont know about what has been achieved to demonstrate what we do to help researchers understand. Many researchers are happy now we make circles. However there are hardcore of religious nutters who will never ever have it that people make circles.
I have made stuff for several TV channels also where we complete complex designs. Isnt that proof?
phildee3
30-04-2009, 10:59 AM
there are hardcore of religious nutters who will never ever have it that people make circles.
..and there is a hardcore of nutters who claim that every single one is man made.
Both are very small groups.
romas
30-04-2009, 02:32 PM
But we have done things like this many times. You say this but really dont know about what has been achieved to demonstrate what we do to help researchers understand. Many researchers are happy now we make circles. However there are hardcore of religious nutters who will never ever have it that people make circles.
I have made stuff for several TV channels also where we complete complex designs. Isnt that proof?
Could you please post some since you post claims here it would be wise to post evidence here to.
What's the next creation is going to be at least.
phildee3
30-04-2009, 04:12 PM
The best yet imo!
Superb.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/roundway/roundway2009.html
chattanova
30-04-2009, 04:45 PM
The best yet imo!
Superb.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/roundway/roundway2009.html
Roundway Hill, nr Devizes, Wiltshire. (reported 29th April)
http://img39.picoodle.com/img/img39/2/4/30/kennet/f_4292528copym_3e100ee.jpg
more aerials http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/roundway/roundway2009.html
who elsie
30-04-2009, 06:27 PM
You see the problem starts immediately with your stating we are doing it to fool people. Thats your assumption. If you had watched the videos you would realise why we do it. Not just skip through them. Properly watch and listen. Its all to easy to sit back and deride me without being heavily interested in the subject and understanding what is being put forth. We are basically interested in the paranomal effects of our making circles.
You are trying to take down the artists who started it all off. They deserve credit for what they did. They made an artform which OTHERS declared was made by aliens. Yes Doug and Dave sat back and kept tight lipped for a long time and were happy to see peoples reactions. Still it wasnt an enforced idea that people had to believe Aliens or Plasma Vortices made the circles, people came up with those ideas themselves. Now people like you are upset because they admitted to what they did and that makes other look stupid. Well would it be better to live in myth, that is the question. If not then Doug and Dave turned the myth around.
The truth is we dont encode any special math or geometrics into our designs. Other interpret that that stuff is tehre but we didnt usually inetnd it. You have to very careful of believing those "researchers" who draw about 700 new lines and circles on what was a simple 5 pointed star and then say look at this intersection at this angle and this angel and nobody could have known that. You can find patterns in anything. Its overcomplicating what we originally did which was quite simple. Bear in mind a lot of the researchers lie about their work too. Who then are the real hoaxers!
You say you want to see how the circles are laid out in a field at night. There was footage of us doing the New Zealand circle which shows us staking out the fields with posts and scribing the design. Perhaps what you want is a tediously painstaking unedited 6 hour video showing every single move and stomp we make, just to make sure theres no fakery or camera tricks and that we can actually do it. Errrrm, well that would be boring and also pointless seeing as editing makes the point well. However I will bear it in mind. It doesnt take a genius to do what we do but not pointing any fingers if you cant see how its done after watching my videos then yes cough cough perhaps someone does need an instructional video to help them see.
Its not rocket science. Any idiot can make a circle. Dedicated circlemakers make good ones because of increased experience. You could go out and do it and then stand back and see people tell you "It wasnt there when I walked my dog earlier and when I walked back it just appeared, so it must have come down in 5 minutes". Then the massive awakeining will happen for you when you realise that we are telling you the truth and people will take your circle and uphold it as magical, paranormal and definately not people. This is the best acid test, not me making videos but you doing circles yourself. Then nobody is fooling you at all, you cant take it all in as it comes to you.
Thanx. You say you are not interested in fooling the public and are just interested in the paranormal effects of making circles - so why not announce in advance when you are to make a formation? You don't have to say where, just say when and perhaps publish the design in advance, so there's no mistaking who did it. This would avoid accusations of trying to fool people and surely would not compromise your research into the paranormal. It's easy to claim you did it, after the event. Why not just be more open and transparant? So many people have invested so much time and effort in researching these formations - ok some have their own agendas, but a large number are just honest truthseekers, trying to solve a mystery. Don't you think you owe them a proper explanation?
So far, I've yet to see any known manmade formations that have that 'wow' factor, just sloppy and often small and simplistic designs. These designs are usually also easily identifiable from the amount of damaged crop within the formations. Yes, even I could do some of them, you are quite right. But it is the ones that I could not even comprehend the scale and intricacy of that interests me. So please, enough of the cloak and dagger routines, produce some proper evidence of your handywork. Otherwise you will come across as nothing more than a disinfo agent, who is just succeeding in muddying the waters still further.
If you have some good, specific evidence on film, please post it here.
hagbard_celine
03-05-2009, 04:30 PM
Bear in mind a lot of the researchers lie about their work too. Who then are the real hoaxers!
But you're telling the truth?:confused: They say that YOU are the liars. Who do we believe? I tend to find people more convincing when they don't get down and personal with their opponents.
You see I can believe you when you say you do make some of the crop circles. I can see how you do it too. I can see Circlemakers do not fit into the stereotype they're often labeled with by researchers. You obviously see that paranormal phenomena are real whether your circles are man-made or not. You're also artists with a professional attitude and a desire to bring wonder into people's lives:). Do I believe that ALL crop circles are made by humans? No. I've seen distinct differences in the lay between different circles. Some are not pushed down with planks IMO.
A good example of one that is manifestly artifical is the 2002 Windmill Hill formation. I studied trhe loay, and even took a plant home with me, and I could see that it had been pushed down. But the one I saw in the field south of Garsington, Oxon last year was very different. The plants had not been pushed down, they seemed to have grown in the position I found them in. In a couple of cases they were even sprouting out of the ground at the angle of the lay. Also they seemed perfectly healthy and were not wilted by the experience:cool:. Of course it's possible that a team of "Plankers" will own up to making that one and be perfectly sincere. They may well genuinely recall entering the field and creating the formation, but whatever field they entered it was not in the same 3D/linear time plain as the one I did. I think there may be some kind of dimensional shift involved here. I'm not sure.:eek::confused:
hagbard_celine
03-05-2009, 04:31 PM
Roundway Hill, nr Devizes, Wiltshire. (reported 29th April)
Thanks, Chat. :) I quite like the ones in the rape fields. The colour enhances the effect in a way that you wouldn't get in wheat or barley.
phildee3
04-05-2009, 01:51 PM
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/eastkennettlongbarrow/eastkennettlongbarrow2009.html
The night before it appeared, my partner and I asked for a wagon formation, for the folks at the Waggon and Horses in Beckhampton.
This is their reply:
We are from another demension, where we need only one wheel.
You need four.
Here is the one, working as four.
Another indication that free energy is on it's way!
relax
04-05-2009, 02:13 PM
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/eastkennettlongbarrow/eastkennettlongbarrow2009.html
The night before it appeared, my partner and I asked for a wagon formation, for the folks at the Waggon and Horses in Beckhampton.
This is their reply:
We are from another demension, where we need only one wheel.
You need four.
Here is the one, working as four.
Another indication that free energy is on it's way!
Whos reply?...
What?
phildee3
04-05-2009, 03:03 PM
Whos reply?...
Uh, - the ciclemakers.
What?
What's what?
jamesc
04-05-2009, 04:52 PM
Hi folk's, new on this forum and i have been following this debate on crop formations.I do not know that much on the crop formations subject but do remember reading something in the past that the genuine formations cause the plant stocks NOT to break , while the man made ones will always break at the stem ,proving that the genuine unknown formations are NOT man made and are what they appear to be, a genuine UNKNOWN. Have the people who have made some formations ever done ones that cause the stems of the crops NOT to break.Would be interesting if the people responsible for making man made formations could let investigators watch will they make one and see HOW they cause the stems NOT to break, just i thought.
chattanova
04-05-2009, 05:32 PM
East Kennett Longbarrow, nr Avebury, Wiltshire. (reported 3rd May)
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/2/5/4/kennet/f_EKennet0305m_f62be3b.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/eastkennettlongbarrow/eastkennettlongbarrow2009.html
biblegirl
04-05-2009, 06:07 PM
hey chatt, you should meet us there for the forum meet next month, maybe we'll get to see some up close :D
biblegirl
04-05-2009, 06:07 PM
Hi folk's, new on this forum and i have been following this debate on crop formations.I do not know that much on the crop formations subject but do remember reading something in the past that the genuine formations cause the plant stocks NOT to break , while the man made ones will always break at the stem ,proving that the genuine unknown formations are NOT man made and are what they appear to be, a genuine UNKNOWN. Have the people who have made some formations ever done ones that cause the stems of the crops NOT to break.Would be interesting if the people responsible for making man made formations could let investigators watch will they make one and see HOW they cause the stems NOT to break, just i thought.
welcome to the forum jamesc, some good points you raise there :)
who elsie
04-05-2009, 06:30 PM
Hi folk's, new on this forum and i have been following this debate on crop formations.I do not know that much on the crop formations subject but do remember reading something in the past that the genuine formations cause the plant stocks NOT to break , while the man made ones will always break at the stem ,proving that the genuine unknown formations are NOT man made and are what they appear to be, a genuine UNKNOWN. Have the people who have made some formations ever done ones that cause the stems of the crops NOT to break.Would be interesting if the people responsible for making man made formations could let investigators watch will they make one and see HOW they cause the stems NOT to break, just i thought.
The problem with the man-made or genuine unexplained formations debate is that most get invaded by people soon after their ceation and it becomes difficult to tell whether the damage was caused by the circle makers or the visitors. I was lucky enough, though, to once be with a group of people who were the first to enter a newly formed crop circle. We were looking at one in an adjacent field and the farmer came over and told us that another had appeared over night and noone else knew about it. Seeing a freshly laid crop circle was breath-taking. It was immaculate and we couldn't find any evidence of damage to the crop or any other tell-tale signs that people had been there before us.
While some formations made by human circle-makers might look convincing from the air or in a photo, they never draw your attention to the interior of a circle, as they are usually messy, with lots of damage to the crop with none of the beautiful swirls, nests and woven patterns you see in 'genuine' formations.
who elsie
04-05-2009, 06:38 PM
hey chatt, you should meet us there for the forum meet next month, maybe we'll get to see some up close :D
Oh, what a great time and place for a forum meet-up! Yes, you're almost certain to see a few formations around there at that time. I'd love to come down too, but I think it's the same weekend as my wedding anniversry, so I'll have to get my priorities right!
phildee3
04-05-2009, 06:53 PM
Check this one out, chatt...
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/clatford/clatford2009.html
Check this one out, chatt...
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/clatford/clatford2009.html
:eek: wow
chattanova
04-05-2009, 07:12 PM
hey chatt, you should meet us there for the forum meet next month, maybe we'll get to see some up close :D
Hey:) Seems as you are travelling all the way to UK, I can't use the distance as an excuse;)
No, seriously that sounds awesome, I would love to be there with you guys.
chattanova
04-05-2009, 07:20 PM
Check this one out, chatt...
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/clatford/clatford2009.html
Wow, now is that just ENourmous or What! :eek:
Clatford, nr Manton, Wiltshire. (reported 4th May)
http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/2/5/4/kennet/f_MANTON2m_e66e55c.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/clatford/clatford2009.html
ThX for pointing 'em out phildde3, I've been really unlucky at the times I'm checking ccc, they seem to always appear just after me checking it out lol
phildee3
04-05-2009, 08:30 PM
ThX for pointing 'em out phildde3, I've been really unlucky at the times I'm checking ccc, they seem to always appear just after me checking it out lol
That's why they've got me on the case with ya.
It's all about teamwork!
phildee3
04-05-2009, 08:41 PM
...at last!!
Disapointing to say the least.
**#*#*** plankers!
Not worth a pic, I think, chatt.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/liddington/liddington2009.html
...at last!!
Disapointing to say the least.
**#*#*** plankers!
Not worth a pic, I think, chatt.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/liddington/liddington2009.html
lol, that made laugh! :D arrr bless um!
chattanova
04-05-2009, 09:00 PM
...at last!!
Disapointing to say the least.
**#*#*** plankers!
Not worth a pic, I think, chatt.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/liddington/liddington2009.html
Oh my..:o And I that was actually eagerly waiting for this aerial..
A truly crAp circle :cool:
biblegirl
04-05-2009, 09:14 PM
Oh my..:o And I that was actually eagerly waiting for this aerial..
A truly crAp circle :cool:
he he, where's the CRAP CIRCLE thread? :D
white horse
04-05-2009, 10:26 PM
...at last!!
Disapointing to say the least.
**#*#*** plankers!
Not worth a pic, I think, chatt.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/liddington/liddington2009.html
Are you avin a giraffe!?!? :eek:
Not worth a pic I think! :cool:
miracles
06-05-2009, 12:12 PM
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5528/hampshireengland2001ti1.jpg
(hampshire, england-01)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6700/hampshirexaengland01pu3.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6193/hampshirexbta9.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8104/hampshirexb2001npm3.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/24/hertfordshireengland01kp8.jpg
(hertfordshire, england-01)
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5997/maidstoneengland05eg2.jpg
(maidstone, england-05)
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5843/maidstoneengland99bh1.jpg
(maidstone, england-99)
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1507/nederland96ao2.jpg
(the netherlands, -96)
http://www.c-sharpcorner.com/UploadFile/mgold/SpaceInvaders06292005005618AM/Images/SpaceInvaders.jpg
miracles
06-05-2009, 12:15 PM
Hey gang, whats the general consensus on crop circles? They've got me beat. Im fascinated
miracles
06-05-2009, 12:26 PM
Exactly.
I'm waiting to hear a report by someone who was there to witness the second phase being made last night.
Hi Im new to the crop circle threads. Im enthralled by them.
Can you explain what you mean by "witness the second phase" please?
chattanova
06-05-2009, 05:19 PM
All Cannings Bridge, nr Stanton St Bernard, Wiltshire (reported 6th May)
http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/2/5/6/kennet/f_P1030050cm_7e1b342.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/allcannings/allcannings2009.html
phildee3
06-05-2009, 07:14 PM
Hi Im new to the crop circle threads. Im enthralled by them.
Can you explain what you mean by "witness the second phase" please?
witness = was there to see, hear or otherwise directly sense.
second = the next after the first.
phase = stage.
phildee3
06-05-2009, 07:18 PM
All Cannings Bridge, nr Stanton St Bernard, Wiltshire (reported 6th May)
This one looks like a blending of mechanical and natural
(you beat me to it this time, chatt!).
hunter77
06-05-2009, 09:45 PM
witness = was there to see, hear or otherwise directly sense.
second = the next after the first.
phase = stage.
how condecending are you, :o why couldn't answer the mans question politely. all he wanted was a resonable explanation:confused:
thefallguy
06-05-2009, 11:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmDfXE4Hnjo
hagbard_celine
07-05-2009, 02:32 PM
Hi folk's, new on this forum and i have been following this debate on crop formations.I do not know that much on the crop formations subject but do remember reading something in the past that the genuine formations cause the plant stocks NOT to break , while the man made ones will always break at the stem ,proving that the genuine unknown formations are NOT man made and are what they appear to be, a genuine UNKNOWN. Have the people who have made some formations ever done ones that cause the stems of the crops NOT to break.Would be interesting if the people responsible for making man made formations could let investigators watch will they make one and see HOW they cause the stems NOT to break, just i thought.
Hi, James. Welcome.:) This is what I observed when I visited two formations. One was the Windmill Hill formation in 2002 which was obviously man-made. You could see how the crops had been pushed down by the planks, but I saw another last year at Garsington, Oxon, where the plants in the lay looked like they were growning in that position. The formation was a week old, but the plants hadn't wilted. For all I could see they were still growing.:eek:
hagbard_celine
07-05-2009, 02:36 PM
http://www.c-sharpcorner.com/UploadFile/mgold/SpaceInvaders06292005005618AM/Images/SpaceInvaders.jpg
The 1999 Maidstone formation is one of my favourites. Can you see how one of the small circles has no tramline access?;):confused: If this one was made by the Plankers then how did they get to that spot without disturbing the virgin crop?
phildee3
07-05-2009, 03:20 PM
all he wanted was a resonable explanation:confused:
miracles and I go back a long way -
he's taking the piss.
How can that phrase be stated any clearer?
biblegirl
07-05-2009, 05:28 PM
Hello guys, sorry if this is rehashing stuff that's already been posted here, it's the first I've heard a connection...what do you think?
I believe crop circles are created by planetary elementals of the air called "Sylphs". Sylphs may also be called "Wingmakers". In the Encyclopedia of the Occult by Manley P. Hall, the chief Sylph is named Shad and he is very ancient and powerful.
The Sylphs coordinate weather, climate, forest growth, forest fires, land animal migrations, bird migrations and the dissolution of static magnetics (Dor) in the atmosphere. They are INTRA-dimensional existing in both the third and fourth dimensional densities.
I heard about "Powers of the Air" as far back as 1970. I saw a female Sylph above West Vancouver in 1972. In 1984 I bought Trevor James Constable's book on infrared photography of Sylphs in which they have amoeba-like heat signatures on the specially prepared photographic plates. They are actually slender beings as the Greek term sylph means thin. Constable wrote that the USAF as far back as 1960 set up microwave defenses against Sylphs who they blamed for gremlins in aircraft and psychic disturbances against pilots. It is probable that the USAF was in violation of natural law and the Sylphs were trying to correct the Air Force's practises. Crop Circles are a continuation of the Sylph's desire to warn men to stop their environmental, psychic and spiritual crimes....They have been drawing designs in grainfields forever. Indians of North America have interacted with Sylphs in many ceremonies including rain-dances. After a rain-dance there is a circle in the prairie grasses where no feet have tread. These holy circles were marked with stones and called medicine wheels. Within hours rain would fall. They crop circles of the last few years have become more complex as the Sylphs become more desirous that men stop their abominations. The crop circles are made using the same energy that goes into generating rain storms. The Sylphs are generating a love message to raise the consciousness of humanity, written on the only available tablets to which they have access. The graphics are highly intelligent loving cartouches.
http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/zslwhomakescropcircles15julo2.shtml
romas
07-05-2009, 09:20 PM
Interesting, I have to dig up my Manly P Hall material, thanks biblegirl :)
miracles
08-05-2009, 08:57 AM
The 1999 Maidstone formation is one of my favourites. Can you see how one of the small circles has no tramline access?;):confused: If this one was made by the Plankers then how did they get to that spot without disturbing the virgin crop?
There awesome man, Whats your theory on them?
miracles
08-05-2009, 09:02 AM
miracles and I go back a long way -
he's taking the piss.
How can that phrase be stated any clearer?
Honestly mate, Im not taking the piss, Im baffled by these thingies, whose behind it aliens ufos. Looks like it to me. As a man whose widsom and forethought I immensly respect, whats goin down here dude? Your mate witnessed it you say, what do you men? He witnessed an alien space craft in action or what?
phildee3
08-05-2009, 12:34 PM
Whats you theory on them?
If you were really interested, you would be finding out what the full-time researchers have to say, not us part-timers. Look at the facts and come to some conclusions of your own. Perhaps then you would have something to contribute.
phildee3
08-05-2009, 12:35 PM
Your mate witnessed it you say, what do you men? He witnessed an alien space craft in action or what?
I did not say that.
Re-read the posts (539/540).
phildee3
08-05-2009, 02:13 PM
Is there anyone in, or near, Cambridge who could check this out,
preferably from the air?
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/rumours2009.html
relax
08-05-2009, 03:03 PM
I did not say that.
Re-read the posts (539/540).
Fuckinghell whats your problem? Every post to this person you're acting like a total retard, try acting a little human and helping out.
miracles
08-05-2009, 03:04 PM
If you were really interested, you would be finding out what the full-time researchers have to say, not us part-timers. Look at the facts and come to some conclusions of your own. Perhaps then you would have something to contribute.
Wells thanks Phildee as usual telling my granny how to suck eggs. Throw me a fricken bone here. Who are the experts? I'll swat up and come and tell you all what's what. I'm good at that. Your copping heat fella. It's lovely to watch. Lol.
miracles
08-05-2009, 03:08 PM
Is there anyone in, or near, Cambridge who could check this out,
preferably from the air?
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/rumours2009.html
Yeah ill be there flying around in my new Robinson, and you know what, I aint showing you didley.
phildee3
08-05-2009, 03:42 PM
Fuckinghell whats your problem? Every post to this person you're acting like a total retard, try acting a little human and helping out.
My problem is that I can't explain what I didn't say.
Perhaps you could teach me how to do that?
miracles
08-05-2009, 05:14 PM
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/eastkennettlongbarrow/eastkennettlongbarrow2009.html
The night before it appeared, my partner and I asked for a wagon formation, for the folks at the Waggon and Horses in Beckhampton.
This is their reply:
We are from another demension, where we need only one wheel.
You need four.
Here is the one, working as four.
Another indication that free energy is on it's way!
Did you say another demonsion. What do you mean you asked for a wagon formation? This is whose reply?
phildee3
08-05-2009, 09:07 PM
Did you say another demonsion. What do you mean you asked for a wagon formation?
What do you mean "what do you mean"? I meant what I said.
Have you not prayed prayers of petition?
This is whose reply?
The circlemakers -
demons, angels, interdimensional beings, ETs, thought forms, spirits, elementals, etc.etc. - depends on your frame of reference - they're all the same thing.
That's what they are doing - bringing about an end to separation, division and conflict.
Heaven on Earth!
miracles
09-05-2009, 02:10 AM
What do you mean "what do you mean"? I meant what I said.
Have you not prayed prayers of petition?
The circlemakers -
demons, angels, interdimensional beings, ETs, thought forms, spirits, elementals, etc.etc. - depends on your frame of reference - they're all the same thing.
That's what they are doing - bringing about an end to separation, division and conflict.
Heaven on Earth!
Are you saying you prayed to them and they answered you by doing a crop circle of wagon wheels? What do me mean what do mean?. If I knew what you meants i wouldnt have asked for clarification. Dose evry conversation have to be like pulling teeth. If I send you a friend request, will you be nicer?
chattanova
09-05-2009, 11:43 AM
Clatford, nr Manton, Wiltshire. (reported 4th May)
800-Foot-Long Pattern in U. K. Oilseed Rape -
A Sigil Someone Wanted Destroyed ?
“All of the plants were broken pretty viciously and there were obvious
trampled paths up and down the long avenues of the huge formation.
The damage is not consistent with standard hoaxing, in my opinion.”
- Charles Mallett, Silent Circle Information Center, Calne, U.K.
http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/2/5/9/kennet/f_UKMantonSigm_89aa2cb.jpg
Eighth formation in Wiltshire, England, seen in field from airplane on rainy
morning of May 4, 2009, after a night of rain at Clatford near Manton, Wiltshire,
England. The thick, yellow, flowering oilseed rape is tangled and yet this huge sigil-like
pattern was neatly placed 800 feet long and 300 feet wide rising up and down over
a hill in the big field at an angle to the tramlines.
http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/2/5/9/kennet/f_UKMantonSigm_23469b1.jpg
Sigil for the demon, Aim (aka Aym or Haborym),
who is a Great Duke of Hell ruling over twenty-six legions
of demons and using fire to destroy. Aim is depicted as humanoid
with three heads: one a serpent; the second a man with two
stars on the forehead; and the third a cat.
FULL REPORT http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1560&category=Environment
phildee3
09-05-2009, 02:21 PM
Are you saying you prayed to them..
I said we asked them.
You could call it prayer, I suppose,
if you define prayer as communicating with spirit.
But there was no formality, nor did we think of it as "prayer."
It was spontanious - just an idea, as a gift for the folks who feed us whenever we go to Avebury.
After we had shared the idea, we had the feeling that it would manifest in the way that it did -
except that it was further down the road (but on the same side) than we had visualised it.
lakkimakki
09-05-2009, 06:18 PM
i think they use some kind of acid , to make formz :cool:
miracles
10-05-2009, 01:46 AM
I said we asked them.
You could call it prayer, I suppose,
if you define prayer as communicating with spirit.
But there was no formality, nor did we think of it as "prayer."
It was spontanious - just an idea, as a gift for the folks who feed us whenever we go to Avebury.
After we had shared the idea, we had the feeling that it would manifest in the way that it did -
except that it was further down the road (but on the same side) than we had visualised it.
That's incredible dude, serioulsy. What is your theory on who/how/what is doing these amazing things? Im genuinely interested. I promise I am not taking the piss.
chattanova
10-05-2009, 10:24 AM
800-foot-long pattern in u. K. Oilseed rape -
a sigil someone wanted destroyed ?
**Update**
...as we arrived late we had little time to take day light pictures, hence some of the images are very dark, but i hope you can still clearly see the impression in the plant. As night time was creeping in fast, there was an eerie feeling of being watched. As i raised the camera pole to take the last few shots, an orb appeared out of nowhere and appeared to hover just above the plants.
http://img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/2/5/10/kennet/f_UKMantonOrbm_7bd24d4.jpg
time lapse of faintly glowing orb (inside photoshop highlight circles) that appeared to hover
above the oilseed rape after sundown on may 4, 2009, clatford near manton, wiltshire, england. Arrow points at andrew's colleague for size and distance comparison.
this orb disappeared and reappeared once again approx 15 minutes later along the tramline. Quite extraordinary to think what these things might be doing. -are they looking for our reaction? Listening, watching and cataloguing the event? We can only guess!!
http://img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/2/5/10/kennet/f_jjm_9889711.jpg
fifteen minutes after the orb first appeared, a glowing orb showed up once more at a distance
in the tramline beyond foreground circle (inside white oval) after sundown on may 4, 2009,
clatford near manton, wiltshire, england.
sadly the re-appearing orbs were not the only thing watching us! As we made our way back to my car - a very angry farmer who arrived with screeching tires, nearly hitting the back of my car, stepped out of his truck with raised fists and full of abuse and started to thump my car with his fists. We stuck to all the guide lines of conduct and offered our apology in a courteous manner and left. So in this instance:
The farmer does not want anyone to enter his land.”
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?id=1561&category=environment
chattanova
10-05-2009, 05:55 PM
Peaks Down, nr Swindon, Wiltshire. (reported 9th May)
http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/2/5/10/kennet/f_1m_f1ad2d5.jpg
http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/2/5/10/kennet/f_2m_9596f4c.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/peaksdown/peaksdown2009.html
phildee3
11-05-2009, 01:44 PM
What is your theory on who/how/what is doing these amazing things?
I don't have one.
thirdwave
11-05-2009, 02:19 PM
Peaks Down, nr Swindon, Wiltshire. (reported 9th May)
12 planets around the sun ?
phildee3
11-05-2009, 02:31 PM
...probably the most ambitious planker job I've seen:
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/roundway2/roundway2009b.html
chattanova
11-05-2009, 06:11 PM
...probably the most ambitious planker job I've seen:
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/roundway2/roundway2009b.html
Roundway Hill (2), nr Devizes, Wiltshire. (reported 10th May)
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/2/5/11/kennet/f_P1030121bm_f0b8c94.jpg
jamesc
11-05-2009, 06:52 PM
This for you dudes that are interested in crop cycles i don't know much about them my self but what do you make of this evaluation of the meaning of this formation??
Likely it is NOT a sigil! but rather a Time Map.
The crop circle (glyph) which appeared in Clatford on May 9th has been provided a label of 'sigil' in an article at EarthFiles.Com.
Personally, I doubt that this latest crop glyph is a sigil as it is not asymmetric, as are all, meaningful, sigils. As is explained in the annotated diagrams of the crop circle(glyph) below, this latest orb-created glyph is bi-laterally symmetrical, as no sigil *can* be an still retain value as a code. Also let us note now that sigils are an attempt to disguise information through coding, not communicate it. Sooooo....it does not make sense to me that these orb-dudes would go to all the trouble to create these glyphs only to then use forms that 'obscure' information, as do sigils.....my conclusion therefore is that this glyph is NOT a sigil, and, assuming that it is intended to create effective communications, a different interpretation *could* be extracted.
First, a diagram of the glyph in question:
We note that the image is symmetrical in various differing orientations, and further is separated into two components, each of which is symmetric.
As we further get into the analysis of this glyph, on the assumptions that 1) the militaries of the Anglo/American empire are demonstrating by their actions that they are aware that the glyphs are *not* hoaxes (i.e. human created), and that they are exhibiting 'fear' reactions in their actions; and 2) that any expenditure of such energies as are required to create these glyphs are an attempt at communications, there are several interesting, universal archetypes which may be seen and that provide some levels of meaning from this particular glyph.
Taking the top component first, it can be seen that this is composed of a larger structure which is surrounding a dark, completed circle. That circles are involved instantly brings up the archetypes of both cycles and revolutions (around a central point), both of these are archetypic representations of time. Thus we can observe at the next level down that the central point is surrounded by a circle which is divided into 4/four equal sections. Within that division, the 4/four are grouped into 2/two sets of 'twin' images, again, not only demonstrating symmetry, but also providing the idea of a 'cycle' divided into 4/four parts, of which each of 2/two parts are identical or equal.
Such a division of a cycle divided by regularity or symmetry invokes the images of 'time', as well as the 'solar year' which is itself divided into the 2/two solstices, and the 2/equinox. Given that the 'equinox' is by explicit derivation an expression of 'equality' where-in both the day and the night split the 24 hour day equally, we could assign such a meaning to the 2/two images at the 9 and 3 o'clock positions merely on their simplicity of expression of 'equality'.
If we assign, in our analysis, the 2/two horizontally oriented components to the equinoxes, then the more complex vertical components would naturally fall to being representations of the solstice. This may actually fit as each of these more complex structures is composed of 4/four larger circles which are divided into 2/two symmetric groups. There are an additional 7/seven smaller circles, clustered around the central point of the structure. Further these smaller circles are shown as being 'in orbit' around the larger circles. Again, *IF* this were assumed to be a communication, then the view from the central circle point of rotation would show these 4/four circles as really only a single event, in which there are actually 3/three circles or 'days' from the point-of-view of the central circle, as 1/one of the circles would 'occlude' its further twin. Since, from earth, the solstices are actually 3/three days in which the 'sun stands still', or seems to from our point of view, this also would seem to fit.
If we are to step up to the total level of the top component of the diagram we further see that the central point circle around which the larger structure revolves has 26/twenty-six of the combined smaller and larger circles around it in 4/four structures. This total of 26/twenty-six is interesting as it is the number of (thousands of) light years from our solar system to the centre of the Milky Way Galaxy. Further it our 'great year' of the super cycle of the precession of the equinoxes is nearly 26/twenty-six thousand years long. Also our planet's angular alignment relative to the galactic central is at a 26/twenty-six degree tilt.
Oh, and tres curiously, the pope Gregory had the Gregorian calendar designed in such a way that it syncs up with the Mayan calendar so that the end of the Mayan calendar occurs on the Winter Solstice (December 20=22 inclusive, 2012) at what time? Why 11:11 am.....very curious indeed.
Other archetypes expressed (probably universal) in this diagram include the idea of the 'notch' which is seen in the disrupted arc connecting the 3/three elements of the lower component of the diagram. The archetype of a 'notch', at the archetypical level, includes the idea of 'slotting in' or 'going into the notch/slot'. Noting that the 'slot/notch' of this diagram is visually connected, though not by any diagram element or line, with the 'solstice' group of circles, could this then be referring to the December 2012, 2009, 11:11 AM alignment with the center of the Milky Way galaxy? Perhaps so, as half way between the 'notch/slot' and the larger circle at the bottom of the diagram are 4/four small lines disconnected from any of the circles within the diagram. Could these 4/four lines be 'reference marks' which is a omni-humanity method of getting disparate parts to 'line up correctly'? Humans use such reference marks for 'alignment' in many many many diverse forms of their endeavors, and it is one of our oldest forms of 'techniques to ensure precision'.
On further examination, the bottom component is composed of an arc, not a complete circle, and it is actually a 'half circle'. Could this be indicative of a 'half cycle'? And then we can also note that the central, completely filled in circle, in the bottom part of the image is itself surrounded by another circle, as are its 2/two smaller companions. Could this again be referring to the archetypes of 'revolutions', and thus cycles of time?
Conclusion (preliminary):
There are more elements and combinations of elements which can be also interpreted with archetypic, and hopefully 'universal' themes, but they are also going to the point already made, which is to say that the Clatford crop glyph is likely NOT a sigil, intending to obscure, but rather is more likely a temporal reference 'map' intending to point us toward the alignment of the earth (from the earth's view point) with the Milky Way galactic central on 12.21.2012, at 11:11 am. There are also hints within the further analysis at the archetypic level to examine the 'half cycles', or 13,0000 years and what happened then.....or so it would seem.
Further conclusions are able to be extracted from the higher levels of reality, such as the 'apparent' attempt to over lay the 'hoax' label on this particular glyph, as well as the 'rapt and rabid' attention being paid to crop circles/glyphs by the British and American military organizations, as well as several very 'key' corporations.
The amount of effort going into 'rubbishing' this particular glyph brings up the natural response of 'why'? What makes this communications so special?
As with the rest of the planet, we here at HPH, will be 'staying tuned for more' when it comes to the 2009 crop circles/glyphs/communications 'season'.
opinions and conclusions expressed herein are entirely mine, clif high.
May be reproduced with attribution.
moon @ Halfpasthuman . com
http://www.halfpasthuman.com/swirlies/clatford_base_2.jpg
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May_2009/manton3_000.jpg
jamesc
11-05-2009, 07:06 PM
Roundway Hill (2), nr Devizes, Wiltshire. (reported 10th May)
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/2/5/11/kennet/f_P1030121bm_f0b8c94.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/roundway2/P1030126b.jpg
I WOULD RULE OUT PLANKS OF WOOD AND STRING ON THIS ONE.
phildee3
11-05-2009, 08:13 PM
I WOULD RULE OUT PLANKS OF WOOD AND STRING ON THIS ONE.
I have no idea what tools they are using nowadays, I've not been interested enough to find out.
For "planker job" in my post, please read "manually made."
It is too rough to be a "real" one, and it doesn't resonate with that energetic crackle!!
thirdwave
12-05-2009, 01:37 AM
maybe a real one that is man made.
jamesc
12-05-2009, 10:30 AM
I have no idea what tools they are using nowadays, I've not been interested enough to find out.
For "planker job" in my post, please read "manually made."
It is too rough to be a "real" one, and it doesn't resonate with that energetic crackle!!
http://www.halfpasthuman.com/swirlies/clatford_base_2.jpg
Where you interested enough to read the article on the above formation , seems very technical but interesting given the fact that it seems to add up in a sense.
astrochicken
12-05-2009, 11:39 AM
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/roundway2/P1030126b.jpg
I WOULD RULE OUT PLANKS OF WOOD AND STRING ON THIS ONE.
Fake. Without a doubt.
hagbard_celine
12-05-2009, 01:47 PM
There awesome man, Whats your theory on them?
I can't begin to speculate!:eek: Some are obviously man-made. It's a kind of landscape art. But for those which aren't... I've no idea!:o
hagbard_celine
12-05-2009, 01:50 PM
12 planets around the sun ?
That's interesting because they've found more planets in the solar system. The only reason they've downgraded Pluto to a minor planet is because there are other planets of similar size further out.
phildee3
12-05-2009, 09:44 PM
Miracles -
have you watched this yet?
http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/22517/NEW_SWIRLED_ORDER_CROP_CIRCLE_DOCUMENTARY_MUST_SEE/
kriss_crow
13-05-2009, 05:31 PM
I've just found it on google.maps [Avebury]
If somebody could provide any info on this formation, please? I never seen this one.
How old is it? Is that possible that the pattern may appear in the next year
as a result of some "radiation" in the soil? I read about such fenomena few
years ago, I even have a photo of such, but not on this computer.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4367/aveburycropcircle2.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aveburycropcircle2.jpg)
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9798/aveburycropcircle.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aveburycropcircle.jpg)
chattanova
13-05-2009, 06:58 PM
I've just found it on google.maps [Avebury]
If somebody could provide any info on this formation, please? I never seen this one.
How old is it? Is that possible that the pattern may appear in the next year
as a result of some "radiation" in the soil? I read about such fenomena few
years ago, I even have a photo of such, but not on this computer.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4367/aveburycropcircle2.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aveburycropcircle2.jpg)
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9798/aveburycropcircle.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aveburycropcircle.jpg)
I remember posting that formation somewhere in this thread...
chattanova
13-05-2009, 09:17 PM
Miracles -
have you watched this yet?
http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/22517/NEW_SWIRLED_ORDER_CROP_CIRCLE_DOCUMENTARY_MUST_SEE/
Here it is in superb quality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mAdrSvOgwI
phildee3
13-05-2009, 09:25 PM
Here it is in superb quality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mAdrSvOgwI
Nice!!
Can't get it on full screen though. :(
chattanova
13-05-2009, 11:21 PM
Nice!!
Can't get it on full screen though. :(
It's supposed to work I just watched it in full screen, maybe it's some graphic settings or something on your computer..I don't know really but what i do know is that I'm really thankful that you recommended this film, I've thought since I've seen it be around that it's just some homemade stuff with akward music added by a youtuber.:o Kudos for sharing phildee3!
phildee3
13-05-2009, 11:51 PM
It's supposed to work I just watched it in full screen, maybe it's some graphic settings or something on your computer..I don't know really but what i do know is that I'm really thankful that you recommended this film, I've thought since I've seen it be around that it's just some homemade stuff with akward music added by a youtuber.:o Kudos for sharing phildee3!
I love the way they get Jamie in there -
and Glickman squaring the circle - choice!
lostinstrangeworld
18-05-2009, 05:39 PM
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/fsilva.htm
Crop Circles: Hard Evidence, Freddy Silva
Now we know that for some people, the subject of Crop Circles raises eyebrows and even a few giggles. After watching this interview, I doubt there will be anyone who could say this is the subject of hallucination or fantasy, there is just too much information documented to disprove them.
Freddy Silva is one of the world's leading experts on crop circles and best-selling author of Secrets in the Fields, hailed by many as the most comprehensive book ever written on this multi-disciplinary phenomenon. He is also a leading researcher into the interaction between temples and consciousness, and recently directed the documentaries "Stairways To Heaven" and "In The Footsteps Of Isis".
He has made keynote presentations at the International Science and Consciousness Conference, and the International Society for the Study of Subtle Energies and Energy Medicine earned him a standing ovation. Freddy has appeared on The History Channel, Discovery Channel, BBC, Art Bell, and Whitley Streiber's Dreamland.
phildee3
18-05-2009, 11:18 PM
Is this the first one of the season in grain?
Is there anyone in Manchester who can get an overhead before it gets smished?
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/rumours2009.html
hagbard_celine
19-05-2009, 01:05 AM
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/fsilva.htm
Crop Circles: Hard Evidence, Freddy Silva
Now we know that for some people, the subject of Crop Circles raises eyebrows and even a few giggles. After watching this interview, I doubt there will be anyone who could say this is the subject of hallucination or fantasy, there is just too much information documented to disprove them.
Freddy Silva is one of the world's leading experts on crop circles and best-selling author of Secrets in the Fields, hailed by many as the most comprehensive book ever written on this multi-disciplinary phenomenon. He is also a leading researcher into the interaction between temples and consciousness, and recently directed the documentaries "Stairways To Heaven" and "In The Footsteps Of Isis".
He has made keynote presentations at the International Science and Consciousness Conference, and the International Society for the Study of Subtle Energies and Energy Medicine earned him a standing ovation. Freddy has appeared on The History Channel, Discovery Channel, BBC, Art Bell, and Whitley Streiber's Dreamland.
Thanks, LISW.:) I love these open-minded crop circle researchers. I call them the "Big Three" of crop circles: Silva, Wilson and Glickman. Sounds like a firm of lawyers!:D
chattanova
25-05-2009, 07:05 PM
After a quiet period this season seem to have really started. :)
Barbury Castle, nr Wroughton, Wiltshire. (reported 24th May.)
http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/2/5/25/kennet/f_Barbury0905m_4fa5721.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/barbury/barburycastle2009.html
chattanova
25-05-2009, 07:07 PM
Windmill Hill, nr Avebury Trusloe, Wiltshire. (reported 25th May)
http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/2/5/25/kennet/f_5252680m_eb3ba0b.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/windmillhill/windmillhill2009.html
biblegirl
25-05-2009, 08:00 PM
wow that one is a real beauty :)
lostinstrangeworld
25-05-2009, 08:36 PM
Windmill Hill, nr Avebury Trusloe, Wiltshire. (reported 25th May)
http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/2/5/25/kennet/f_5252680m_eb3ba0b.jpg
Gutted, I went past there today, I want to go back now and take a look!
I wonder whether the circle makers made it for me as its my birthday :p :D
who elsie
26-05-2009, 01:16 AM
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/windmillhill/5252680.jpg
Wow! The best so far this year! Lay looks interesting. I'd like to see this one close up!
It's been a great season so far, hope it continues this way!
Btw - here's one that I think Chatanova missed:
Bishop Cannings, nr Devizes, Wiltshire. Reported 24th May.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/barbury/5252661.jpg
flaykat
26-05-2009, 06:07 AM
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9548/germany92uz1.jpg
(germany-92)
Does anyone know what this is, or what it means? We've obviously seen it before with this ancient artifact...... :confused:
chattanova
26-05-2009, 04:32 PM
Barbury Castle, nr Wroughton, Wiltshire. (reported 24th May.)
http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/2/5/26/kennet/f_5252694m_ae22ea0.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/barbury/barburycastle2009.html
chattanova
26-05-2009, 04:37 PM
Zierenberg, Hessen (Hessia), -Germany
(Reported 21st May)
http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/2/5/26/kennet/f_Ziernberg09m_0549351.jpg
21.05.2009 - Today we have the first crop circle in Germany. It's a flower design in a field of young barley in Zierenberg near Kassel. At the moment we have only some ground shots but no aerial shots, because we have thunder and lightning and much rain the whole day. More you can see on our homepage http://www.fgk.org
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/inter2009/germany/ZIERENBERG2009.html
chattanova
30-05-2009, 01:03 AM
Waylands Smithy, nr Kingstone Coombs, Oxfordshire.
(reported 29th May)
http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/2/5/29/kennet/f_DSC0010m_61dbbba.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/waylandsmithy/waylandsmithy2009.html
biblegirl
30-05-2009, 02:23 AM
Waylands Smithy, nr Kingstone Coombs, Oxfordshire.
(reported 29th May)
WOW! um...WOW!
chattanova
30-05-2009, 09:32 AM
WOW! um...WOW!
Freaky :eek:
lostinstrangeworld
30-05-2009, 01:17 PM
I wonder if there are clear ways to tell the difference between the man made ones and the genuine ones?
(I saw a program on Edge channel where this guy was talking about this group he was involved in going around making them....and encouraging others to do the same- because of interesting experiences they had in the process of receiving inspired inspiration, etc). I personally wish they wouldn't.
romas
30-05-2009, 01:41 PM
Those tentacles kind of imperfect geometrically - man made :P
phildee3
30-05-2009, 02:30 PM
I wonder if there are clear ways to tell the difference between the man made ones and the genuine ones?
Depends what you mean by "genuine."
There are clear ways to tell the difference between manually made and remotely made ones though.
bulletproofheart
30-05-2009, 05:43 PM
It really irks me that because of a few mouthy circle makers people STILL think most circles are false.I spent last summer in Westbury and had a tip off at 6 in the morning from an old farmer who had seen the circle appear before his eyes.
phildee3
30-05-2009, 06:01 PM
Those tentacles kind of imperfect geometrically - man made
Why do all formations that are not "man made" have to be geometrically perfect?
What about Chilbolton?
who elsie
30-05-2009, 09:36 PM
It really irks me that because of a few mouthy circle makers people STILL think most circles are false.I spent last summer in Westbury and had a tip off at 6 in the morning from an old farmer who had seen the circle appear before his eyes.
Quite right. We need to be paying more attention to these sort of people, rather than the ego-driven 'circle-makers', who want us to believe that ALL crop circles are their work. We should just ignore them, until proper evidence is provided. I haven't seen any yet.
Don't really know what to make of that jelly-fish formation, but it doesn't FEEL right to me, impressive though it is.
phildee3
30-05-2009, 10:01 PM
Don't really know what to make of that jelly-fish formation, but it doesn't FEEL right to me, impressive though it is.
Has anyone checked for swollen nodes?
Ground shots can reveal a lot too - the type of lay.
Of corse, it could have been added to by a different species than the original makers too.
I'm too busy to get up there myself.
beldazar
30-05-2009, 11:35 PM
Waylands Smithy, nr Kingstone Coombs, Oxfordshire.
(reported 29th May)
Yes the tentacles do look a little out of place...
I just covered them up with my fingers and it looks much nicer.
biblegirl
31-05-2009, 02:31 AM
who has seen crop circles being made? what does it look like?
asha loka
31-05-2009, 03:20 AM
See here. (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/circulos_cultivos/esp_circuloscultivos10.htm)
Although sometimes they just appear, even when fields are being watched.
Not that that's conclusive. It's hard to see in the dark, and not many crop watches use night vision.
But around midsummer you'll get maybe two to three hours of real darkness. If people are making them, laying out a complex pattern in the dark isn't a small achievement.
I live in crop circle country and the local politics are interesting, with proven hoaxes and strange experiences getting roughly equal air time.
elton
01-06-2009, 12:25 PM
See here. (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/circulos_cultivos/esp_circuloscultivos10.htm)
Although sometimes they just appear, even when fields are being watched.
Not that that's conclusive. It's hard to see in the dark, and not many crop watches use night vision.
But around midsummer you'll get maybe two to three hours of real darkness. If people are making them, laying out a complex pattern in the dark isn't a small achievement.
I live in crop circle country and the local politics are interesting, with proven hoaxes and strange experiences getting roughly equal air time.
Wow. Thats incredible that the carp has the same markings as the circles. Thats the first time I've seen something like that.
Are there other examples of animals or whatever being marked with something simlar to the crop circles?
chattanova
01-06-2009, 04:29 PM
Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire.
(reported 1st June)
http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/2/6/1/kennet/f_DSC0005Knolm_1315795.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/knolldown/knolldown2009a.html
chattanova
01-06-2009, 04:45 PM
Ehlen, Hessen (Hessia), -Germany
(reported 30th May)
http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/2/6/1/kennet/f_RRxm_e4bbb1f.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/inter2009/germany/Ehlen2009.html
lookfar
01-06-2009, 05:53 PM
Nice to see so many appearing already, I'm gonna have to get visiting some soon...:)
lostinstrangeworld
01-06-2009, 10:40 PM
I think we should become a bunch of rebellious travelers and move up there permanently. :p
Mind you, at the same time I do kind of like my creature comforts. :rolleyes:
alzee
02-06-2009, 05:13 PM
Giant jellyfish invades Earth... in the form of a mysterious crop circleBy Daily Mail
A 600ft jellyfish has washed up in a barley field miles from the sea - in the form of one of the biggest and most bizarre crop circles ever seen.
Experts say the gigantic pattern in the field in Kingstone Coombes, Oxfordshire, is the first of its kind - and far larger than most crop patterns.
Aficionado Karen Alexander said: 'We have seen butterfly and bird patterns in the past, but this is the first jellyfish crop circle in the world (more (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1190279/Giant-jellyfish-invades-Earth--form-mysterious-crop-circle.html))
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/02/article-1190279-052DC7D6000005DC-106_634x422.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/02/article-1190279-052DC78B000005DC-988_634x850.jpg
Surely this one is man-made?? If so, it shows just how complex man-made circles can be!
phildee3
02-06-2009, 07:30 PM
Surely this one is man-made?? If so, it shows just how complex man-made circles can be!
"...no signs of human hoaxing were perceived throughout the formation."
Alex Mercer Crop Circle Connector - Field Reports.
lostinstrangeworld
02-06-2009, 07:42 PM
Do people usually examine the structure of the wheat/ how it has been bent? I.e, microwave orb energy or tools?
phildee3
02-06-2009, 07:56 PM
Do people usually examine the structure of the wheat/ how it has been bent? I.e, microwave orb energy or tools?
I always look for swollen nodes and for bending at those points,
but I leave the "how" up to the lab guys.
phildee3
02-06-2009, 09:29 PM
Now this is amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing!!
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/milkhill/milkhill2009.html
kitchenmatt
03-06-2009, 07:27 AM
Looks like the jellyfish has made it onto the BBC:):rolleyes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/8080315.stm
@ Phildee -
Holy cow! This season is effing incredible already.
who elsie
03-06-2009, 09:04 AM
Looks like the jellyfish has made it onto the BBC:):rolleyes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/8080315.stm
@ Phildee -
Holy cow! This season is effing incredible already.
£600,000 worth of damage?! That's expensive crop! If the crop is that damaged, then it must be man-made, but according to other reports, this formation showed no signs of being hoaxed, which would indicate no or very little damage to crop. True, visitors may have subsequently done some damage, but £600,000! I don't think so, somehow.
alzee
03-06-2009, 11:39 AM
£600,000 worth of damage?! That's expensive crop! If the crop is that damaged, then it must be man-made, but according to other reports, this formation showed no signs of being hoaxed, which would indicate no or very little damage to crop. True, visitors may have subsequently done some damage, but £600,000! I don't think so, somehow.
Did they change it? lol - it reads £600, not £600,000 :o
who elsie
03-06-2009, 12:51 PM
Did they change it? lol - it reads £600, not £600,000 :o
Yes, it's £600, but it did say £600,000 when I read it. Infact there is a foot note at the end of the article now:
Correction: Mrs Spence inadvertently provided a figure of £600,000, rather than £600, for the damage caused, which was used in an earlier version of this story.
Just a slight differnce of £590,400! Nothing to worry about. Maybe they were hoping they'd get that much compensation or something!
hagbard_celine
03-06-2009, 03:37 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/02/article-1190279-052DC7D6000005DC-106_634x422.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/02/article-1190279-052DC78B000005DC-988_634x850.jpg
Surely this one is man-made?? If so, it shows just how complex man-made circles can be!
It's been on the news that the farmers who own the field have asked people to stay away.:(:eek::p
Just because it's a recognizible objecty doesn't mean it's man-made. Crop circles occasionally take the form of naturalistic art. It's rare but it does happen. Remember the insectoid ones?
lostinstrangeworld
03-06-2009, 03:57 PM
If it was man made it must have taken many to make that particular one.
Our Jellyfish friend strikes me as an eccentric character. :cool:
I wonder what these latest ones mean?
hagbard_celine
03-06-2009, 04:08 PM
If it was man made it must have taken many to make that particular one.
Our Jellyfish friend strikes me as an eccentric character. :cool:
I wonder what these latest ones mean?
Look out for jellyfish related issues in the news.:cool:
alzee
03-06-2009, 05:23 PM
It's been on the news that the farmers who own the field have asked people to stay away.:(:eek::p
Just because it's a recognizible objecty doesn't mean it's man-made. Crop circles occasionally take the form of naturalistic art. It's rare but it does happen. Remember the insectoid ones?
Point taken. It just seems an odd thing for anyone other than an earthling to design :confused:
chattanova
03-06-2009, 05:31 PM
Below Milk Hill, nr Alton Barnes, Wiltshire. (reported 2nd June)
http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/2/6/3/kennet/f_Milk2m_b6de0c6.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/milkhill/milkhill2009.html
phildee3
03-06-2009, 07:40 PM
Just because it's a recognizible objecty doesn't mean it's man-made.
Romas' claim that it's "man-made" was based on the fact that the tentacles are not geometric,
and there are lots of recognisable forms in "real" formations - butterflies, birds, dolphins, insects, sun, planets....
phildee3
03-06-2009, 08:11 PM
Our Jellyfish friend strikes me as an eccentric character. :cool:
I wonder what these latest ones mean?
The jellyfish is a very ancient form, having resisted evolution for millions of years -
a very successful design, -
and so it exists in many other-dimensional worlds too.
In the latest one, the dolphins are counter-rotating.
We've seen counter-rotation before - in many forms, in many formations
and is at the heart of Vril technology -
yet another of the free-energy technologies which they have been revealing.
The perfect combination of organic and mechanical is a message: -
we must balance the principles of the bricoleur and the engineer to achieve practical over-unity!
mcmenek1
03-06-2009, 09:47 PM
Below Milk Hill, nr Alton Barnes, Wiltshire. (reported 2nd June)
http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/2/6/3/kennet/f_Milk2m_b6de0c6.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/milkhill/Milk-Hill3copy.jpg
Interesting!.......this crop formation is encoded with the number 7.......Large Outer Heptagon with 7 sides, Smaller inner Heptagon with 7 sides, 7 circles on each corner, 7 circles just inside the Large Outer Heptagon.......could this be connected to 7/7/2009 I wonder?
Crop circles predict CME on 7/7/09 scientist says
An Australian scientist and American retired astrophysicist think some of the crop patterns could have astronomical information about a count down to increased solar flare and coronal mass ejection (CME) activity this coming July 2009
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65027
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phildee3
03-06-2009, 10:40 PM
this crop formation is encoded with the number 7
It's hardly encoded -
it's quite overt, I'd say!
could this be connected to 7/7/2009 I wonder?
The problem with connecting a phenomenological manifestation with a date in our (Julian/Gregorian) calendar is that the latter is entrirely arbitrary.
I would be more inclined to link it to natural events/cycles.
mcmenek1
03-06-2009, 11:29 PM
It's hardly encoded -
it's quite overt, I'd say!
Well!......not everyone who looks at this crop formation will see the number 7 connections I've highlighted.......
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phildee3
03-06-2009, 11:43 PM
Well!......not everyone who looks at this crop formation will see the number 7 connections I've highlighted.......
True.
Only those who have an IQ over 20, I'd say.
relax
04-06-2009, 12:17 AM
I would be more inclined to link it to natural events/cycles.
Why when they will have knowledge of our system, and we are more likeley to understand it if the message is given that way.
margaretr
04-06-2009, 12:25 AM
The connection to 7/7/09 is established by the circles which show the phases of the moon.
It is explained here-
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1562&category=Environment
airria
04-06-2009, 05:01 AM
Little London, nr Yatesbury, Wiltshire. Reported 3rd June.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury/DSC0018-Little-London-Yates.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury/DSC0011-Little-London-Yates.jpg
Wow! I don't know what to say. Look at the wings!
who elsie
04-06-2009, 08:54 AM
Little London, nr Yatesbury, Wiltshire. Reported 3rd June.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury/DSC0018-Little-London-Yates.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury/DSC0011-Little-London-Yates.jpg
Wow! I don't know what to say. Look at the wings!
Now THAT'S incredible! As you say, the detail in the wings is fantastic. The swirls in the lay also looks very impressive. Certainly doesn't look like the work of board stompers! Love it!
phildee3
04-06-2009, 10:45 AM
The connection to 7/7/09 is established by the circles which show the phases of the moon.
It is explained here-
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1562&category=Environment
Thanks.
That is interesting.
I saw this before, but accidently read it as June 7th.
kingmob
04-06-2009, 07:54 PM
Those last crop circles are just WOW. LOOKs like a giant bug. What the hell does this mean?
elton
05-06-2009, 02:29 PM
This one and the jellyfish one are incredible. They are both very similar in form and size. Can they overlay?
lostinstrangeworld
05-06-2009, 02:31 PM
They remind me of the Nazca lines.
I enjoyed lessons about ancient civilizations so much....and enjoying a lesson was a rare thing at school.
Speaking of school years, that bug reminds me a little bit of a phantom larvae I caught on a school trip and was fascinated by when I examined it under a microscope.
http://www.nativefish.org/img/articles/Glassworm.jpg
Isn't life fascinating? :)
thirdwave
05-06-2009, 03:01 PM
to be honest, im not as impressed with the circles nowadays... they are loosing their magic....
you do get the odd one that is nice and puts something out but the majority them for me no longer hold anything...
lostinstrangeworld
05-06-2009, 03:04 PM
to be honest, im not as impressed with the circles nowadays... they are loosing their magic....
you do get the odd one that is nice and puts something out but the majority them for me no longer hold anything...
I would just like to know which ones are made by forces other than human and which ones aren't.
phildee3
05-06-2009, 08:08 PM
I would just like to know which ones are made by forces other than human and which ones aren't.
They can't be seperated.
The ones that are made remotely involve the human spirit
and the ones that are made manually have a non-human element involved.
alrick888
05-06-2009, 09:51 PM
to be honest, im not as impressed with the circles nowadays... they are loosing their magic....
you do get the odd one that is nice and puts something out but the majority them for me no longer hold anything...
You're getting jaded lol....
Be honest these are very interesting
decim
06-06-2009, 05:24 AM
Seen the insects in the film "the Mist"?
The aliens are not going to be from the planet luv'dup, preaching rainbows, lollipops & unity.
You are going to eaten.
Harvested.
kitchenmatt
06-06-2009, 10:04 AM
Seen the insects in the film "the Mist"?
The aliens are not going to be from the planet luv'dup, preaching rainbows, lollipops & unity.
You are going to eaten.
Harvested.
Its nothing less than the human race deserves.
chattanova
06-06-2009, 11:48 AM
New Farm, nr Chiseldon, Wiltshire
(reported 5th June)
http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/2/6/6/kennet/f_Chiseldon1m_444cd1b.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/newfarm/newfarm2009.html
Looks like the German circles we've had so far, just some more complex (if thats just not the picture quality). http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/inter2009/germany2009.html
phildee3
06-06-2009, 12:32 PM
to be honest, im not as impressed with the circles nowadays... they are loosing their magic....
The formations are nothing but a mirror...
hagbard_celine
06-06-2009, 01:45 PM
Little London, nr Yatesbury, Wiltshire. Reported 3rd June.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury/DSC0018-Little-London-Yates.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury/DSC0011-Little-London-Yates.jpg
Wow! I don't know what to say. Look at the wings!
Did I manifest that one!?:eek::eek::cool: Just a few days ago I was talking about insectoid crop circles! See the previous page.
Either way it's exquisite!
mcmenek1
07-06-2009, 01:42 AM
Little London, nr Yatesbury, Wiltshire. Reported 3rd June.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury/DSC0018-Little-London-Yates.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury/DSC0011-Little-London-Yates.jpg
Wow! I don't know what to say. Look at the wings!
Amazing!......It looks like a Dragonfly......Dragonfly eggs hatch into nymphs that live beneath the water, a nymph will undergo a gradual metamorphosis before reaching its adult stage, when a nymph is ready to finally metamorphose (to change completely and become something different) into an adult it will climb out of the water and start breathing, the skin tears behind it's head and an adult Dragonfly climbs out of the old nymph skin......
Could this Dragonfly crop formation be symbolically portraying the planet Earth in gradual stages of evolution and about to make it's final metamorphosis into something completely different?........If you look at the body of the Dragonfly it looks symbolically to me like the planet earth is being portrayed in various stages of evolution by showing the Earth gradually becoming larger, the land mass of the earth being depicted as the unflattened crop and the sea being depicted by the flattened crop, both in various positions....
Also looking at the Earth it's about to enter it's 11th and final stage........the number 11 is connected to the vibration frequency of 'light' and is the closest balanced manifest vibration frequency to the stillness of the oneness, the word 'light' also has a vibration frequency of 11....... is this why people keep seeing 11:11 is it a prompt for them to raise their vibration frequency so they can evolve/travel with the planet Earth........
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romas
07-06-2009, 04:47 AM
Amazing!......It looks like a Dragonfly......Dragonfly eggs hatch into nymphs that live beneath the water, a nymph will undergo a gradual metamorphosis before reaching its adult stage, when a nymph is ready to finally metamorphose (to change completely and become something different) into an adult it will climb out of the water and start breathing, the skin tears behind it's head and an adult Dragonfly climbs out of the old nymph skin......
Could this Dragonfly crop formation be symbolically portraying the planet Earth in gradual stages of evolution and about to make it's final metamorphosis into something completely different?........If you look at the body of the Dragonfly it looks symbolically to me like the planet earth is being portrayed in various stages of evolution by showing the Earth gradually becoming larger, the land mass of the earth being depicted as the unflattened crop and the sea being depicted by the flattened crop, both in various positions....
Also looking at the Earth it's about to enter it's 11th and final stage........the number 11 is connected to the vibration frequency of 'light' and is the closest balanced manifest vibration frequency to the stillness of the oneness, the word 'light' also has a vibration frequency of 11....... is this why people keep seeing 11:11 is it a prompt for them to raise their vibration frequency so they can evolve/travel with the planet Earth........
Love
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Peace
Interesting post, thanks.
Maybe explains why I love setting up my alarm clock at 11:11 when ever I can, just seemed like cool numbers :o
I doubt that it raises my whatever just by setting clock like that though lol ;)
lostinstrangeworld
07-06-2009, 10:18 AM
Thanks for posting your thoughts Mcmenick!
Yes, it does look like a dragonfly!
chattanova
07-06-2009, 02:12 PM
Monteiasi, Taranto, Puglia, -Italy
(reported 5th June)
http://img35.picoodle.com/img/img35/2/6/7/kennet/f_monteiasi2m_8cc99d4.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/inter2009/italy/Margherita2009a.html
Oh FFS! Evolve me already! How many of these fookin things are we gonna have to look at?:mad:
phildee3
07-06-2009, 09:15 PM
Oh FFS! Evolve me already! How many of these fookin things are we gonna have to look at?:mad:
None.
lostinstrangeworld
08-06-2009, 01:00 PM
LoL!
LoL!
Tree! How dare you!:mad::p;) (snarf)
chattanova
08-06-2009, 07:52 PM
Bishop Cannings, nr Devizes, Wiltshire.
(reported 8th June)
http://img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/2/6/8/kennet/f_DSC0016Bishm_327d937.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/bishopcanning/bishopcannings2009b.html
phildee3
08-06-2009, 08:36 PM
Bishop Cannings, nr Devizes, Wiltshire.
(reported 8th June)
Yesterday was Trinity Sunday.
We held a mass in an abandoned chapel which was originally dedicated to the Trinity.
The archangels, of which there are seven, were featured prominantly in the liturgy.
There was a lunar eclipse last night :eek:.
(btw, the chapel is one of a group of seven.
It's semi-circular chancel has seven windows.
Also, seven men and seven women showed up for the celebration).
Perhaps the formations are not "made" at all
but simply manifest in sympathetic resonance with what is strong in the collective consciousness.
Millions were celebrating Trinity Sunday yesterday.
romas
08-06-2009, 09:02 PM
uhm age of pices with third fish? :P
Reminds me of a clock, age of pices, buncha atmos/planets in revolution, three triangles(possibly pythagoras golden ratio?).
phildee3
08-06-2009, 09:10 PM
uhm age of pices with third fish?
No.
Most (if not all) belief systems have some kind of trinity.
Yesterday was the day when Christians celebrate theirs.
The fish is a Christian symbol.
In order for Pisces to figure in the symbology here, duplicity would have to figure in the geometry, as that is an essential element in the Pisces symbol.
alrick888
08-06-2009, 09:11 PM
Bishop Cannings, nr Devizes, Wiltshire.
(reported 8th June)
This one's definitely man-made. Some of the circles are ovoid, and it just doesn't have that particular feel to it.
phildee3
08-06-2009, 09:29 PM
This one's definitely man-made. Some of the circles are ovoid,
If "aliens" are smarter than us, then wouldn't they be capable of making ovoids?
Incidentally, ovoids are much more difficult for humans to make than circles are!
beldazar
08-06-2009, 09:36 PM
If "aliens" are smarter than us, then wouldn't they be capable of making ovoids?
Incidentally, ovoids are much more difficult for humans to make than circles are!
Yep! Plus why cant a group of skeptics beg a farmer to let them recreate one of these splendid crop circles once and for all and see how long it takes?
Ive heard they did once and it took much longer than a few hours in the rain dark :eek:
If "aliens" are smarter than us, then wouldn't they be capable of making ovoids?
Incidentally, ovoids are much more difficult for humans to make than circles are!
Maybe a bit more diffucult but not much more. You just need two sticks/tripods insted of one and a piece of string with the ends tied to loop round the aforementioned sticks.
phildee3
08-06-2009, 10:42 PM
Maybe a bit more diffucult but not much more. You just need two sticks/tripods insted of one and a piece of string with the ends tied to loop round the aforementioned sticks.
Point conceeded.
Thanks for correcting me.
However, it does not detract from my point that ovoids do not indicate that the formation is more likely to be "man-made."
phildee3
08-06-2009, 10:46 PM
Yep! Plus why cant a group of skeptics beg a farmer to let them recreate one of these splendid crop circles once and for all and see how long it takes?
Why?
Why don't you ask the guys who make them?
Apparantly, it doesn't take long if they have a good sized, well organised team.
Why do you want to know?
beldazar
08-06-2009, 11:00 PM
Why?
Why don't you ask the guys who make them?
Apparantly, it doesn't take long if they have a good sized, well organised team.
Why do you want to know?
I just do. Ok with you?
lostinstrangeworld
08-06-2009, 11:33 PM
I want to know too! :p
phildee3
09-06-2009, 10:03 AM
I just do.
Well, it's a good time of the year to find out.
If you go and hang out with the croppies, visiting the formations, talking to people you run into, you'll probably hear of one being made before too long.
Then you can go check it out and ask them.
It depends how complex it is.
I've heard of them being made in a couple of hours or less, but an average one would be a half-day project to make it more worthwhile for team members.
I avoid them myself. I can't see why anyone is interested in them. The remote made ones are much more interesting, imo.
phildee3
09-06-2009, 10:08 AM
I just do. Ok with you?
Sure.
Is it ok with you that I want to know why you want to know?
beldazar
09-06-2009, 02:37 PM
Well, it's a good time of the year to find out.
If you go and hang out with the croppies, visiting the formations, talking to people you run into, you'll probably hear of one being made before too long.
Then you can go check it out and ask them.
It depends how complex it is.
I've heard of them being made in a couple of hours or less, but an average one would be a half-day project to make it more worthwhile for team members.
I avoid them myself. I can't see why anyone is interested in them. The remote made ones are much more interesting, imo.
Im going to Avebury on the 19th of this month, I cant wait! Just for a day or two but Im hoping I will be able to stay up all night to watch out for any crop formations.
Phildee I would love to hang around where crop circles are made but I dont get the chance to.
Lets hope this time will be an opportunity for me :)
PS do you live near there? If so, it would be lovely to meet you :)
phildee3
09-06-2009, 08:31 PM
Im going to Avebury on the 19th of this month, I cant wait! Just for a day or two but Im hoping I will be able to stay up all night to watch out for any crop formations.
Bad time for that - it's a dark moon.
Advise you sleep at night and have more energy to look around during the day.
Most of the manually made ones are made in the afternoon, or the more covert ones around full moon at night.
Most of the remote-made ones seem to appear early morning.
I don't think you'll see much before sunrise.
do you live near there? If so, it would be lovely to meet you
I live in Glasto. and go to Avebury fairly often.
Won't be able to meet you at that time - too busy.
I find that the best place to meet people in the know is at the formations.
The people you find at the Barge and the Silent Circle are much more interested in themselves!
hagbard_celine
10-06-2009, 11:36 AM
Monteiasi, Taranto, Puglia, -Italy
(reported 5th June)
That's on grass by the look of it!:eek::cool:
fekdemasons
10-06-2009, 12:19 PM
Im going to Avebury on the 19th of this month, I cant wait! Just for a day or two but Im hoping I will be able to stay up all night to watch out for any crop formations.
Phildee I would love to hang around where crop circles are made but I dont get the chance to.
Lets hope this time will be an opportunity for me :)
PS do you live near there? If so, it would be lovely to meet you :)
Hey Beldazar,
Why don't you invest in some kit for measuring electrical / energy activity. eg Giga counter and the like. Take some readings , from what I hear you'll pick up some crazy readings. THen you'll probs know if its fake or not.
You may feel a bit dizzy and funky yourself.
Also the lay of the crops is meant to be a fair indicator. I'm no expert but from what I've read the crop is layed just so and no stems appear broken.
Good luck with your hunting and post some pics eh !
phildee3
10-06-2009, 07:20 PM
That's on grass by the look of it!
Golden grass??
That's wheat...
beldazar
10-06-2009, 09:30 PM
Hey Beldazar,
Why don't you invest in some kit for measuring electrical / energy activity. eg Giga counter and the like. Take some readings , from what I hear you'll pick up some crazy readings. THen you'll probs know if its fake or not.
You may feel a bit dizzy and funky yourself.
Also the lay of the crops is meant to be a fair indicator. I'm no expert but from what I've read the crop is layed just so and no stems appear broken.
Good luck with your hunting and post some pics eh !
If I see anything I certainly will. Not sure I will be getting the geiger-counter or whatever it is...:).
phildee3
10-06-2009, 10:20 PM
If I see anything I certainly will. Not sure I will be getting the geiger-counter or whatever it is...:).
Check out ebay.
They're not that expensive.
You should at least be packing a compass!
Take bearings when you're still a long way off, and then at frequent intervals as you approach the formation.
Trouble is, even a manually "man-made" formation can have the influence/involvement of non-human entities and thus produce anomalous gamma/EM readings.
AND
how do we know if a remotely made one is not "man-made" using some advanced, covert technology?
What is "real"
and what is "fake"?
Things are not that black and white!
I have found different types of formations, both remotely made, which were definitely not made by the same entities.
airria
10-06-2009, 10:36 PM
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/bishopcanning/bishops_can4.jpg
I'm currently putting together the meaning of the last few formations - when I saw the arrival of the fish formation I had to go there to confirm a nagging question to my theory. This time I wasn't comfortable going on my own and asked Paul Jones a friend of mine to come along with me as the experience at New Farm made me feel very uneasy.
Being in a crop circle - day or night has never ever bothered me before. As we entered the fish formation in an instant the same feeling as in New Farm hit me but this time ten times stronger. My heart again started to thump and i was constantly looking as if something again was watching. My enthusiasm to take photos just disappeared I tried all sorts of settings on my camera and all I was getting was under exposed images. A Norwegian camera man was filming there today and he also reported a similar problem. He also stated that some form of dust was also settling on his lens !! ( curious ). I also found myself disorientated - I was trying to find the centre circle and all I did was go round in a circle in the outer seven circles - and completely forgot to find the centre circle.! ( Most peculiar feeling ) I wanted to take a photo from the centre of the fish shape but never managed to complete the task. I was once again eager to leave. As I was collecting my things a few more people came in and again they reported the feeling of thumping heart and pressure on their foreheads.
This is the most interesting part: As we finally exited the formation I felt as If I was being PUSHED. My friend Paul thought that I had passed out ! At first I thought it was Paul that gave me a nudge, but Paul was still few a feet behind me. As we continued to walk along the tramline I started to feel as If I was drunk and started to place my left leg across my right as if I wanted to trip myself up. I can truly say that I have never felt this before and its made me anxious about visiting any new formations. I have felt good feeling energy in crop circles before but definitely nothing like this. As I sat in my car i then REMEMBERED why i came here in the first place and then i had a flash vision of people FALLING OVER. My theories may have been a bit wild in the past but this one is different - this fish formation is almost shouting at me and telling me that Its THE SEVEN SEALS OF REVELATION…..
Andrew Pyrka
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/bishopcanning/th_090608%20Bishop%20Cannings%20071.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/bishopcanning/comments.html
airria
10-06-2009, 10:43 PM
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/newfarm/Chiseldon2.jpg
There are some formations which you walk into and feel overwhelming energy. This formation I was eager to leave !!. My heart was racing, felt jumpy and kept looking over my shoulder. Bad weather on the horizon was threatening so had to rush with photos and skipped the usual inspection.
One part of the formation was different from the rest - one of the quarter moon circles had two swirls next to each other. The rest had one characteristic centre swirl. Swirl in the centre circle is again of centre. Intricate weaves are also very present - there seems to a pattern emerging where the crop circle makers seem to be applying care and attention to detail on ground level as well. This formation was still very crisp to the foot, so not many visitors had walked through its avenues.
Andrew Pyrka Cheltenham
Click on thumbnails to enlarge
Images Andrew Pyrka Copyright 2009
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/newfarm/090606-Chiseldon-068.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/newfarm/090606-Chiseldon-048.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/newfarm/090606Chiseldon056.jpg
phildee3
10-06-2009, 10:55 PM
I think these latest two formations are pretty conclusive:
The "circlemakers" are our collective consciousness!
who elsie
10-06-2009, 11:07 PM
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/newfarm/Chiseldon2.jpg
Click on thumbnails to enlarge
Images Andrew Pyrka Copyright 2009
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/newfarm/090606-Chiseldon-068.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/newfarm/090606-Chiseldon-048.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/newfarm/090606Chiseldon056.jpg
Those shots of the internal swirls are fantastic. The kind of detail that the board stomping circle makers simply can't replicate.
Thanx for posting. :)
airria
12-06-2009, 06:11 PM
Yatesbury, nr Cherhill, Wiltshire. Reported 12th June.
Phoenix rising from the ashes:
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/Yatesbury2S_04.jpg
Image Olivier Morel (WCCSG) Copyright 2009
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/06120193copy.jpg
Image Jack Turner Copyright 2009
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/yatesbury2009b.html
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/P1030428b.jpg
Image Dai Dobbs Copyright 2009
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/yatesbury2009b.html
lookfar
12-06-2009, 08:21 PM
Yatesbury, nr Cherhill, Wiltshire. Reported 12th June.
Phoenix rising from the ashes:
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/Yatesbury2S_04.jpg
Image Olivier Morel (WCCSG) Copyright 2009
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/06120193copy.jpg
Image Jack Turner Copyright 2009
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/yatesbury2009b.html
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/P1030428b.jpg
Image Dai Dobbs Copyright 2009
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/yatesbury2009b.html
Wow two in one field, they're definitely worth going to see! The shapes are very different this year too, I wonder if we'll be seeing more of this type...
Thanks for sharing:)
hagbard_celine
12-06-2009, 08:36 PM
Yatesbury, nr Cherhill, Wiltshire. Reported 12th June.
Phoenix rising from the ashes:
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/Yatesbury2S_04.jpg
Image Olivier Morel (WCCSG) Copyright 2009
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/06120193copy.jpg
Image Jack Turner Copyright 2009
The phoenix one is outstanding!:):cool::eek: definitely my favourite of the year so far.
phildee3
12-06-2009, 08:44 PM
Wow two in one field,
This is quite common in Wilts.
beldazar
12-06-2009, 08:47 PM
The phoenix one is outstanding!:):cool::eek: definitely my favourite of the year so far.
I dont like the phoenix one at all
hagbard_celine
12-06-2009, 08:47 PM
I dont like the phoenix one at all
Matter of taste I suppose. Different crop circles speak to different people in different ways.
relax
12-06-2009, 09:23 PM
It looks photoshopped in the first image, but in the comparison one real.
kingmob
12-06-2009, 10:22 PM
There seems to be a new trend with these circles. Animals and Insects. Has there been an elaborate analysis of these last few amazing crop circles? I'm eager to hear some.
phildee3
12-06-2009, 10:51 PM
There seems to be a new trend with these circles. Animals and Insects. Has there been an elaborate analysis of these last few amazing crop circles? I'm eager to hear some.
If you look back over the past ten years, you'll find that they're not new at all.
These last two make me think of Jimi:
"It's very far away, takes about a half a day to get there,
if we travel by -
dragonfly!"
and
"...the smell of a world,
that is burning."
gods sun
13-06-2009, 12:24 AM
umm guys the phe0nix is not a good sign theres gonna be some heavy stuff happening that you only see in the movies/
gods sun
13-06-2009, 12:34 AM
phoniex burns and rises frim ashes that means somthing will start again.
kingmob
13-06-2009, 12:57 AM
Rising from the ashes is usually a good thing me thinks.
There is a lot more to the Crop circles than just a Metaphorical meaning of a Phoenix rising from the Ashes. All that detail is a code to a message most likely, and it needs to be interpreted to get an idea of what it could mean.
I'm not sure if the circle even depicts a Phoenix.
relax
13-06-2009, 02:50 AM
umm guys the phe0nix is not a good sign theres gonna be some heavy stuff happening that you only see in the movies/
Hmm. And the circle thats above its head maybe symbolizing crown chakra..
phildee3
13-06-2009, 10:39 AM
I see the phoenix rising from the flames of the old paradigm - the banking system, the political system, tyranny, slavery, bigotry, war, etc. - as an entirely new paradigm.
There are eight pairs of tail feathers - representing duplicity - within the flames.
At it's head are symbols of triplicity,
while there are twelve sets of wing feathers - transitioning between duplicity and triplicity.
Duple numbers (2, 4, 8, 16, etc.) represent the physical, temporal world -
while triples (3, 6, 9, etc.) represent eternal, spriritual things.
gods sun
13-06-2009, 01:05 PM
or is it a pheonix or is it a annunaki
http://chiwaka2012.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/annunaki2.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/P1030416b.jpg
and does anyone see the dogey patch on the top corner is this binary code or is it just a mess people made im sure i be ther when weathers good.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/Yatesbury2S_04.jpg
a burning a collapse of somthing only to be risen from the ashes annunaki to start a new era or age.
phildee3
13-06-2009, 02:19 PM
or is it a pheonix or is it a annunaki
Well the flames suggest the phoenix, but it could also be an annunaki - ascending from it's "fallen" state to resume it's original role as one of the holy watchers.
beldazar
13-06-2009, 02:26 PM
Hmm, the Zoroastrian bird...
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/yatesbury2009b.html
I read a book called 'From the Ashes of Angels' and the author delved into Nephilim, etc...but what struck me was a time he went to a zoroastrian meeting in London. He went with a woman and one of the priests assistants asked whether the woman was menstruating or not because the priest finds it offensive (:confused:) I laughed at this as my first thought was that if the priest should smell the blood, he may shapeshift :D
lostinstrangeworld
13-06-2009, 04:13 PM
Scary crop circle. :eek:
gods sun
13-06-2009, 07:35 PM
people say there fake but why would someone wana do somthing like this? if i was an artist doing them the last thing on my mind would be, mayan calender or jelly fish 2 football pitchs long, i would do things smaller as well as i would get bored after 2 hours or even less.
gods sun
13-06-2009, 07:38 PM
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/Yatesbury2S_04.jpg
the circle could mean the earth, the pheonix is earth, with earths chakra on top,
that the earth will rise from the ashes, into somthing,
phildee3
13-06-2009, 07:44 PM
Scary crop circle. :eek:
What do you find scary about it?
I find it extremely reassuring -
and euphoric.
simplysimon
13-06-2009, 10:31 PM
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/Yatesbury2S_04.jpg
the circle could mean the earth, the pheonix is earth, with earths chakra on top,
that the earth will rise from the ashes, into somthing,
strangely, I was thinking this about 30 seconds before reading your post... Why else would the body of the phoenix be round?
phildee3
13-06-2009, 10:48 PM
strangely, I was thinking this about 30 seconds before reading your post... Why else would the body of the phoenix be round?
It's an eclipse.
I thought that was obvious.
Question is -
is it a lunar eclipse like we just had
or a solar one like we're about to have?
I think the latter -
at 2.36 UT on July 22nd.
simplysimon
13-06-2009, 10:56 PM
There are 2 small circles either side of the top of the tail. Could they represent the 2 DNA strands we are made of, then the Earth Phoenix (representing a huge Earth) arises from the ashes of Earth and is populated by beings with 3 DNA strands represented by the smaller circle above with the 3 small circles around it?
gods sun
13-06-2009, 11:04 PM
has anyone yet noticed that dogey patch in corner? bit odd
phildee3
13-06-2009, 11:10 PM
There are 2 small circles either side of the top of the tail. Could they represent the 2 DNA strands we are made of, then the Earth Phoenix (representing a huge Earth) arises from the ashes of Earth and is populated by beings with 3 DNA strands represented by the smaller circle above with the 3 small circles around it?
Yes, this could be one of many manifestations of duplicity rising to triplicity (see msg. 1191).
Maybe those beings with three strands are us!
bulletproofheart
13-06-2009, 11:12 PM
As great as crop circles are,I get fed up with the endless conundrum of mystery....where? who ? why? there comes a point where you just want the f**ing answer.
phildee3
13-06-2009, 11:15 PM
As great as crop circles are,I get fed up with the endless conundrum of mystery....where? who ? why? there comes a point where you just want the f**ing answer.
Why?
bulletproofheart
13-06-2009, 11:17 PM
Why?
Because I spent last summer in Wiltshire and the feeling in the air after a circle appearing was electric.I just want to know the ultimate answer I guess.
simplysimon
13-06-2009, 11:18 PM
Because I spent last summer in Wiltshire and the feeling in the air after a circle appearing was electric.I just want to know the ultimate answer I guess.
UH OH :D
Simple. 42 is the answer.
Please don't ask what the question to the ultimate answer is though, cos we might go off on a mice tangent :D
phildee3
13-06-2009, 11:18 PM
Those sets of three circles each side of the neck are curious.
In one set they're all touching
in the other, the two smaller ones are detached.
Chromosomes in the new humans?
simplysimon
13-06-2009, 11:21 PM
Those sets of three circles each side of the neck are curious.
In one set they're all touching
in the other, the two smaller ones are detached.
Chromasomes in the new humans?
Could also mean that the phoenix itself has 2 sets of tri-chromasomes and we're just about to get our third.
phildee3
13-06-2009, 11:23 PM
Because I spent last summer in Wiltshire and the feeling in the air after a circle appearing was electric.I just want to know the ultimate answer I guess.
You missed my humour.
I didn't really want to know.
phildee3
13-06-2009, 11:24 PM
Could also mean that the phoenix itself has 2 sets of tri-chromasomes
Mythological creatures do not have chromosomes.
hunter77
13-06-2009, 11:25 PM
You missed my humour.
I didn't really want to know.
you must be funnier in person;)
simplysimon
13-06-2009, 11:29 PM
Mythological creatures do not have chromasomes.
I was always taught that every myth normally has a root in truth somewhere way back when. Surely the original basis for the Myth must have been a creature of some sort, ergo, it would have had some form of DNA.
If the phoenix is a representation of our creator, and DNA is our transmitter/receiver then it would make sense that their DNA is far more complex than ours is.
An example of a myth that is very true today is Sisyphus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus), which is why people are so unhappy these days.
phildee3
13-06-2009, 11:34 PM
I was always taught that every myth normally has a root in truth somewhere
I didn't say that myths were not true, or real,
just not physical.
phildee3
13-06-2009, 11:37 PM
Those sets of three circles each side of the neck are curious.
In one set they're all touching
in the other, the two smaller ones are detached.
Chromasomes in the new humans?
Uh, oh!
I just did a bit of searching and, guess what?
It started happening in 1961 already!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XYY_syndrome
phildee3
13-06-2009, 11:52 PM
you must be funnier in person;)
No, you still wouldn't get it.
hunter77
13-06-2009, 11:57 PM
No, you still wouldn't get it.
must be the way you tell em
phildee3
14-06-2009, 12:00 AM
must be the way you tell em
Indeed.
Like crop circles, they're designed to make you think.
Where's the fun in having everything explained to ya?
hunter77
14-06-2009, 12:03 AM
Indeed.
your better at dead pan;)
gods sun
14-06-2009, 12:35 AM
new crop circle found im off to see it tmorw its huge.
bulletproofheart
14-06-2009, 02:07 AM
You missed my humour.
I didn't really want to know.
And you are.....who exactly?......an internet nobody
BIG FUCKING DEAL
romas
14-06-2009, 03:44 AM
And you are.....who exactly?......an internet nobody
BIG FUCKING DEAL
Everybody is nobody on le intraweb :p
phildee3
14-06-2009, 12:16 PM
I hope you're all watching CCC.
They just posted the third one today!
chattanova
14-06-2009, 12:39 PM
Below Milk Hill (2), nr Alton Barnes, Wiltshire
(Reported 13th June)
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/2/6/14/kennet/f_stanton2LS0m_25555b2.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/milkhill2/milkhill2009b.html
chattanova
14-06-2009, 12:41 PM
Wayland's Smithy Long Barrow, nr Odstone Hill, Oxfordshire.
(Reported 12th June)
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/2/6/14/kennet/f_Outlook1m_93831de.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/waylandsmithy2/waylandsmithy2009b.html
chattanova
14-06-2009, 12:43 PM
South Field, Alton Priors, Wiltshire
(Reported 13th June)
http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/2/6/14/kennet/f_SouthField2m_02ef39d.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/southfield/southfield2009.html
phildee3
14-06-2009, 02:58 PM
The South Field aerial is up -
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/southfield/southfield2009.html
relax
14-06-2009, 03:02 PM
Below Milk Hill (2), nr Alton Barnes, Wiltshire
(Reported 13th June)
I wonder why only the one of the circles has additional shape to it, any ideas?
phildee3
14-06-2009, 03:06 PM
The South Field aerial is up -
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/southfield/southfield2009.html
There are 33 "rays" coming from behind the eclipse.
In astronomy, an eclipse is known as an occultation.
The occult Freemasons have 33 degrees.
phildee3
14-06-2009, 03:12 PM
I wonder why only the one of the circles has additional shape to it, any ideas?
The Zionist perversion of Judaism?
chattanova
14-06-2009, 03:46 PM
South Field, Alton Priors, Wiltshire
(Reported 13th June)
http://img35.picoodle.com/img/img35/2/6/14/kennet/f_SouthField0m_dbfb917.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/southfield/southfield2009.html
phildee3
14-06-2009, 04:18 PM
http://img35.picoodle.com/img/img35/2/6/14/kennet/f_SouthField0m_dbfb917.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/southfield/southfield2009.html
Missiles -
turning back on themselves.
lookfar
14-06-2009, 04:47 PM
Blimey, they were busy there yesterday, wow!!
who elsie
14-06-2009, 06:20 PM
Blimey, they were busy there yesterday, wow!!
Weird. Your signature links to: Dolphins playing with bubble rings? When I read this I thought you were referring to the above crop formation.
Now look again at the pic. Could it be....?
dodie
14-06-2009, 06:22 PM
Missiles -
turning back on themselves.
Spirals going back home to source.
gods sun
14-06-2009, 06:30 PM
i was there today and it doesnt look anything like that till you hit the air, but about 30 minutes when i was in the pheonix 1 we got a phone call that a new 1 was seen at bambuy castle :S.
who elsie
14-06-2009, 06:34 PM
Another new one, with another animal theme, but...
Compare & contrast this:
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/baburycastle/DSC0117-Barbury.jpg
with this:
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/southfield/SouthField03_OH.jpg
and this:
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/yatesbury2/DSC0109-Yatesbury-PhoenixOH.jpg
I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.
kingmob
14-06-2009, 09:10 PM
Man, this shit is getting stranger and stranger and I'm more confused with every circle.
The last few simplistic crop circles are a little under suspicion for fakeness.
beldazar
14-06-2009, 09:17 PM
Man, this shit is getting stranger and stranger and I'm more confused with every circle. The last few simplistic crop circles are a little under suspicion for fakeness.
Me too! Im beginning to think that most (if not all) of them that arent 'man-made' (i.e people on the ground) are made by their secret technology
relax
14-06-2009, 09:18 PM
The Zionist perversion of Judaism?
How does that relate to the extra shape?
kingmob
14-06-2009, 09:23 PM
In My opinion, these circles need detailed mathematical analysis. Something big must be on the horizon for them to be churned out at this rate(is this still all pointing to 7.7.09?). That was usually the case with previous crop circles, and numbers usually present a much clearer message than just an uneducated observation.
gods sun
14-06-2009, 09:26 PM
solar strom july 7th keep eyes out and turn off all electrical equitment. the humming bird is a fake, period its locaton as well had no reference like all the rest and its next to a castle so only for tourist, the design it to simple and can easily be done bye man.
phildee3
14-06-2009, 09:38 PM
How does that relate to the extra shape?
"Perversion is a concept describing those types of human behavior that are perceived to be a serious deviation from what is considered to be orthodox or normal." Wiki
Isn't that one circle a deviation from the norm in the rest of the formation?
Me too! Im beginning to think that most (if not all) of them that arent 'man-made' (i.e people on the ground) are made by their secret technology
Yes, that keeps cropping up (sorry:o) in my mind too. But how can they keep coming up with such beautiful and original designs so frequently? The brand new bird one is extremely pretty. Although, just having looked at it again.... the wings are on the piss.
gods sun
14-06-2009, 09:58 PM
i think 1 of the makers on it released to much on ats forum i said that next 1 would be humming bird because someone blew there cover. and was easliy spotted on forum only to find out the nxt 1 was a humming bird what a coincidence.
relax
14-06-2009, 11:23 PM
"Perversion is a concept describing those types of human behavior that are perceived to be a serious deviation from what is considered to be orthodox or normal." Wiki
Isn't that one circle a deviation from the norm in the rest of the formation?
Yep, doesnt explain what you said though.
gods sun
15-06-2009, 01:21 AM
wow i take my word back just got phone call of many people at new circle witness orbs and touching them wow incredible and a sort off vehicle floating over backwards and forwards.
lookfar
15-06-2009, 01:49 AM
Weird. Your signature links to: Dolphins playing with bubble rings? When I read this I thought you were referring to the above crop formation.
Now look again at the pic. Could it be....?
Haha, yeah I see what you mean:) Who knows though, they are certainly appearing in an abundance atm & I'm interested in the new animal shapes. Although that phoenix one reminds me of some sort of logo/emblem, does anyone else get that?
phildee3
15-06-2009, 02:50 PM
doesnt explain what you said though.
At some point you're gonna have to use your own brain, mate.
Which part of "The Zionist perversion of Judaism" don't you understand?
What does the formation mean to you?
hagbard_celine
16-06-2009, 10:32 AM
umm guys the phe0nix is not a good sign theres gonna be some heavy stuff happening that you only see in the movies/
Perhaps, but I still admire it as a work of art, leaving aside its meaning.:cool: