elders of zion

[nirvana]

I read this a while back .Well worth delving into.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion3.htm

Peace:)

[stelios]

Never worth forgetting.
This blueprint was written a long time ago and widely published.
Since then everything that has happened in the world has exactly followed this blueprint to the letter.

Trolls and shills try to pretend and divert people but anyone who reads this very soon realises that everything that happens in this world is planned.

Which is why we must all expose and fight zionism.

[eternal_spirit]

Heard it was written by Rotshchilds would make sense.

[mynameis]

The Origin of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion
The Secrets of an Anti-Semitic Manipulation


This "secret document" was quickly put into doubt by Count Alexandre du Chayla, a French aristocrat who had converted to orthodoxy and would later fight with the White Army against the Bolsheviks: in 1909, he had encountered the first publisher of the Protocols, Serge Nilus, the pope of Russian mysticism, who showed the Count the "original." Not at all convinced, the Count would later recount that he had the impression of encountering a fanatic for whom the question of the text's authenticity didn't matter. "We admit that the Protocols are fake," Nilus declared to him. "But is not God served by the discovery of the iniquity of what is being prepared? Can not God, considering our faith, transform dogs' bones into miraculous relics? Thus, he can put the betokening of truth into a lying mouth!"

The Protocols were in fact "launched" to the wider public on 8 May 1920 by The Times of London, in which an editorial entitled "The Jewish Peril: a disturbing pamphlet. Demand an inquest." evoked this "singular, short book," to which the newspaper seem to accord credit. The Times made good a little later, in August 1921, by announcing "The End of the Protocols" and publishing proof of the falsification. The Istanbul correspondent of the British daily had been conducted by a White Russian who had taken refuge in Turkey and, obviously well informed, had revealed to him that the text of the Protocols was the transfer [le decalque] of a French pamphlet against Napoleon III. A rapid verification proved the falsification: the Protocols actually took up the text of the Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu, published in Brussels in 1864 by Maurice Joly, an anti-Bonapartist lawyer who intended to show that the Emperor and his coterie were plotting to seize all power within French society. Using this forgotten text,[2] which won Maurice Joly two years in prison, the forger of the Protocols replaced "France" with "the world" and "Napoleon III" with "the Jews." The crude swindle was exploded by a simple line by line comparison of the two texts. The fake was revealed, but the mystery of its origin remained. One simply knew that the original text was drafted in French and one supposed that the fake had been fabricated at the beginning of the century, in Paris, in the milieus of the Russian political police.

It was in the archives of the Frenchman Henri Bint, an agent of the Russian services in Paris for 37 years, that Mikhail Lepekhine verified that Mathieu Golovinski was the mysterious author of the fake. Henri Bint -- receiving in Paris in 1917 a man named Serge Svatikov, an envoy from the new Russian government (led by Kerenski) who was tasked with dismantling the Czarist secret services and "debriefing," and sometimes sending back their agents -- explained to him that Mathieu Golovinski was the author of the Protocols and that he himself [Bint] had been tasked with remunerating the fabricator. The Czar's last ambassador, Basile Maklakov, being left with the archives of the embassy, which he gave to the American Hoover Foundation in 1925, Serge Svatikov bought Henri Bint's personal archives. Later breaking with the new Bolshevik leaders, Svatiko deposited the Bint archives in Prague, in the private collection of the "Foreign Russian Archives." In 1946, the Soviets seized this collection, which was added to the State archives of the Russian Federation in Moscow. The secret of Golovinski was thus kept until the collapse of Communism and the general opening up of the archives in 1992. The anti-Semitic falsifier having become a "fellow traveler" of the Bolsheviks in 1917, the Soviets had no desire to reveal this little ruse of History, which today still seems embarrassing, since Mikhail Lepekhine's discovery -- revealed this past August by Victor Loupan in Le Figaro -- has not aroused any interest in the mainstream French press.

Thanks to his detailed knowledge of the itinerary of the author of the Protocols, Mikhail Lepekhine can today -- at the end of five years of research -- completely retrace the circumstances and objectives of the fabrication of this fake. Born on 6 March 1965 in Ivachevka, in the Simbirsk region, Mathieu Golovinski came from an aristocratic family descended from a Crusader, Count Henri de Mons. A well-bred but turbulent family: "The great uncle of Mathieu Golovinski was condemned to twenty years in exile in Siberia for his participation in the anti-monarchist conspiracy of the Decembrists, and his father, Basil, a friend of Dostoyevsky, was condemned to death and reprieved at the same as the writer, after a simulation of an execution," Mikhail Lepekhine recounts. Freed after being engaged for several years as a soldier in the war of the Caucuses, Basile died depressed in 1875, leaving little Mathieu Golovinski in the hands of his mother and a French governess who in fact an excellent speaker of French. A casual but skillful student of law (without great scruples), Mathieu Golovinski seems gifted in intrigue. The young opportunist manages to enter into contact with the Count Vorontsov-Dahkov, close to the Czar and minister to the court: convinced of the menace of a conspiracy, the Count founded -- in the aftermath of the assassination of Alexander II -- the Holy Fraternity, a secret organization that responded to terror with terror and manipulation. The Holy Fraternity was actually one of the first "fakers" of fake documents, notably fabricating fake revolutionary newspapers.

http://www.notbored.org/protocols-history.html

[mynameis]

The above is Zionist propaganda

You are Zionist propaganda eternal spirit. The research bibliography is there. Where is your research bibliography?
http://www.smso.net/The_Protocols_of_Zion

Protocols of Zion (film)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7169205203825782546

[eternal_spirit]

You are Zionist propaganda eternal spirit. The research bibliography is there. Where is your research bibliography?
http://www.smso.net/The_Protocols_of_Zion

Protocols of Zion (film)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7169205203825782546

LOL reverse psychology at it's finest. And your Jewish name would be? Amongst this lot under the synagogue of satan info talks and texts.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/

[mynameis]

LOL reverse psychology at it's finest. And your Jewish name would be?

That's funny, I thought you were the rabbi of Zionism on this forum. You seem to know more about Jewish people than themselves?

[eternal_spirit]

That's funny, I thought you were the rabbi of Zionism on this forum. You seem to know more about Jewish people than themselves?

That's genuinely funny :D

Anyway doesn't matter who wrote the Protocols it's a World wide NWO plan as we know.

[nirvana]

I first heard the protocals of the elders of zion from one of david ickes books i read a few years ago.If the document is false why has so much of it come true?
I also know jewish people are victims from the zionist agenda themselves.

Peace:)

[nirvana]

I thought this thread would bring out the pro-zionist bods.

[mynameis]

Rabbi Yona Metzger

and

Neo Nazi Tom Metzger

nazi vs rabbi either way we both lose. This is the illuminati's game.

[nirvana]

Rabbi Yona Metzger

and

Neo Nazi Tom Metzger

nazi vs rabbi either way we both lose. This is the illuminati's game.

Very true

Peace:)

[tyler]

True or false? Forgery? Who cares.

Read the Protocols of Zion and realise how much of it is coming to fruition.

[stelios]

The zionists keep saying that the protocols are fake or a forgery.
However, surely that is totally ridiculous.
Because everything that is written in the protocols of zion is actually happening and has happened.
So either it was a blueprint for the future or it was a work of fiction that has since publication been followed religiously by the zionists.

[runciter]

The Origin of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion
The Secrets of an Anti-Semitic Manipulation


here's a different point of view, from a jew:

Maurice Joly Plagiarized "Protocols of Zion" (not vice-versa)

July 30, 2008

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

It is forbidden to mention the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" (1905) without the Disclaimer that, of course, they are a "forgery" of Maurice Joly's "Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu" (1864.)

The assumption is that since Protocols appeared some 40 years after Dialogue, it plagiarized the earlier work. But I will suggest that Protocols actually predated Dialogue and Joly borrowed from it. In other words, far from being an anti-Semitic ruse, the "Protocols of Zion" are authentic.

I have already argued that the two documents are neither similar nor derivative, although they have some lines and words in common. "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is essentially a brilliant Master Plan for tyranny, i.e. the New World Order. It is the key to understanding our present predicament. (This is not a condemnation of all Jews, only the nucleus of bankers and high-level Masons directing this diabolical war against the human race.)

"Dialogue in Hell" was a veiled Masonic Jewish attack on Napoleon III, an example of how they championed liberalism to undermine the Old Order and usurp power, as described in the Protocols themselves. (The author of Protocols is contemptuous of liberalism and all egalitarian programs. They are just gimmicks to manipulate the masses.)

Reading Kerry Bolton's monograph "The Protocols of Zion In Context" (Renaissance Press, 2003) it became obvious that Joly was plagiarizing from The Protocols and not vice-versa.

Joly, a Jew whose real name was Joseph Levy, was a lifelong Mason and member of the "Lodge of Mizraim" where the Protocols document originated. He was the protege of Adolph Cremieux (Isaac Moise Cremieux 1796-1880) the head of the lodge and a Minister in the Jewish-backed government of Leon Gambetta.

The plot is described in the Protocols as "centuries-old." It most likely predates "Dialogue." Joly was well versed in the Protocols and borrowed from it to flesh out the unpopular authoritarian position of Machiavelli, which he ascribed to Napoleon III.

Joly, who committed suicide in 1879, was in the habit of "borrowing." He is accused of plagiarizing a popular novel by Eugene Sue, namely "Les Mystères du Paris." (1845) Also his work is predated by one by another of Cremieux's proteges, Jacob Venedy, entitled, "Machiavelli, Montesquieu, Rousseau." (1850)

In 1884 Mme. Justine Glinka, the daughter of a Russian General living in Paris, hired Joseph Schorst, a member of Joly's Mizraim Lodge to obtain sensitive information. For the sum of 2500 francs, Schorst provided Glinka with "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." He was subsequently tracked down and murdered in Egypt.

The Tsarist government, already heavily infiltrated, sat on the document. Glinka subsequently gave it to a friend who passed it on to Professor Sergius A. Nilus who published it for the first time in 1901.

After the Bolshevik Revolution, Nilus was arrested in Kiev in 1924 ,imprisoned and tortured. The President of the Court told him he had "done them incalculable harm in publishing the Protocols." ("Waters Flowing Eastward" by Paquita de Shishmareff, 1999, pp.74-76.)

CONCLUSION

If your plan for World Domination leaked out, what would you do? Would you admit it? "You got me! My bad!"

No, you'd employ an army of ciphers to convince everyone the document is a hoax motivated by "prejudice" and "anti-Semitism." They have executed this "damage control" perfectly, a measure of their power to deceive even in the presence of the truth.

This is the only Conspiracy that has prevailed in spite of the Blueprint being freely available. It demonstrates the credulity (or venality) of the intelligentsia and the masses.

They have colonized our minds first. We cannot name our oppressor for fear of being accused of "anti-Semitism." It's as though Black slaves working on cotton plantations were taught it was "racist" or "prejudiced" to mention the White slave driver. Since the majority of Jews are ignorant of this plot, and are manipulated like everyone else, racism is a ploy to divert attention from a very dire problem.

The Illuminati (top-rung Masonic Jews and their non-Jewish allies) have distributed some wealth and power to the masses (liberalism, socialism) as a way of securing ultimate power for themselves. According to the Protocols, they will eventually withdraw these benefits once their "invisible government" is invincible. The "war on terror" should be seen in this context.

In my view, "Protocols Deniers" are complicit in this Conspiracy, which is responsible for most human suffering and will lead to a great deal more. As a Jew, I don't want this responsibility on my head, or on other innocent Jews or Masons.

http://www.henrymakow.com/maurice_joly_plagiarized_proto.html

[hagbard_celine]

The Protocols as we know them are fake, but they might have been inspired by a real document. The original publisher of the Protocols was Sergei Nilus. Material from the Protocols appeared a few decades earlier in several fictional novels like Biarritz by Herman Goedsche and A Dialogue in Hell Between Montesquieu and Machiavelli by Maurice Joly (Unless Henry Makow is right!:eek:). I believe that Nilus, Joly and Goedsche had access to an original document from which they transcribed their forgery. This original unknown document will have been by the REAL Illuminati. The Illuminati are not Jews; they're Zionists, which is a very different thing. But Nilus and the others might well have decided to publish a fake version of this unknown Illuminati document to falsely vindicate his own bigotry.

Is that possible? Well, to answer that I had to carry out an experiment to test whether it is possible to transcribe an Illuminati document on how to take over the world, to make it look like a Jewish document on how to take over the world. To test this I decided to try such a transcription in reverse: I took the Protocols as we know them and turned them into a non-Jewish document. It is astonishingly easy! Try it yourself if you have copy of the Protocols. I just changed the words “Jews” and “Zion” into “The Olympians” (The Illuminati probably don’t call themselves "the Illuminati"; “Olympians” is one of the words it’s been suggested is their real name). I then changed the words “Goyim” and “Gentiles” into “Sheeple” (This is just a guess, the Illuminati probably have some other derogatory word for the masses). So by just carrying out a couple of word replacements the document has totally lost its Jewish flavour. I imagine it is a document like this that was unearthed by Nilus. Here's a taster:

PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE OLYMPIAN COUNCIL OF THREE HUNDRED

...What I am about to set forth, then, is our system from the two points of view, that of ourselves and that of the Sheeple...

...Great national qualities, like frankness and honesty, are vices in politics, for they bring down rulers from their thrones more effectively and more certainly than the most powerful enemy. Such qualities must be the attributes of the kingdoms of the Sheeple, but we must in no wise be guided by them...

...3. Do not suppose for a moment that these statements are empty words: think carefully of the successes we arranged for Darwinism, Marxism, Nietzsche-ism. To us Olympians, at any rate, it should be plain to see what a disintegrating importance these directives have had upon the minds of the Sheeple...

...15 Ever since that time we have been leading the peoples from one disenchantment to another, so that in the end they should turn also from us in favor of that KING-DESPOT OF THE BLOOD OF OLYMPIA, WHOM WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE WORLD.

16. At the present day we are, as an international force, invincible, because if attacked by some we are supported by other States. It is the bottomless rascality of the Sheeple peoples, who crawl on their bellies to force, but are merciless towards weakness, unsparing to faults and indulgent to crimes, unwilling to bear the contradictions of a free social system but patient unto martyrdom under the violence of a bold despotism - it is those qualities which are aiding us to independence. From the premier- dictators of the present day, the Sheeple peoples suffer patiently and bear such abuses as for the least of them they would have beheaded twenty kings....

If you read it, it sounds like an old-fashioned version of “Silent Weapons For A Quiet War” or “Report From Iron Mountain”.
It would be an interesting experiment to take “Silent Weapons…” and see if it is possible to transcribe it into a hypothetical anti-Semitic document as easily.