I believe / don't believe in Reptilians

[adzboarder]

This is a simple poll as I want to get a snapshot idea of how many users on this forum believe in the reptilians or the reptilian agenda.

So this is it, crunch time - do you or don't you?

*personally, I feel that if this reptilian thing were true then it would explain a lot! So that is why my vote, the first vote is I believe.*

[adzboarder]

Cool!

So where are all the disbelievers then?

[biblegirl]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32091
another poll asking the same, lots of interesting posts ;)

[element]

Should be 4 options imho:

- Yes, I believe
- Not sure, but very likely
- Not sure, but highly doubtful
- No, I don't believe

I can't vote between those two options you give.

[kingmonkey]

Until I see some evidence I'm not buying it.

[mcthompson2x]

Believing in anything without evidence gets individuals into trouble. The only way to be at peace with the question short of an actual physical encounter is to accept either possibility as being potentially true. Assumptions make fools out of us!

[lostinstrangeworld]

I am convinced that there could be.....I am yet to know.

[darketernal]

Until I see some evidence I'm not buying it.

That is how I feel about antartica myself. Sure people SAY it is real, but I do not know anyone credible who has seen it and I sure haven't.

I have however seen reptilians first hand, so I know they are real.

[kingmonkey]

That is how I feel about antartica myself. Sure people SAY it is real, but I do not know anyone credible who has seen it and I sure haven't.

I have however seen reptilians first hand, so I know they are real.

I'm not saying it's not possible. Im just like to see things with my own eyes before going out on a limb.

[blondina1]

Interesting results ;)

[cheeney1]

No Tuatara Rules Me.:D

[jayla]

It doesn't much matter whether I believe it or not...The fact that ENTIRE ruling classes are now and have for centuries been determined merely by bloodlines tell me the powers that be DAMN well believe it!
It's just like I tell my friends when we debate on "sacrifice to satanic powers". It's just as terrifying that THEY believe when they sacrifice an innocent to gain power.Even if it's a crazy theory, the end result is the same. An innocent life is lost either way.
Probably didn't explain that second half very eloquently, but I hope you got my meaning just the same:)

[darketernal]

It doesn't much matter whether I believe it or not...The fact that ENTIRE ruling classes are now and have for centuries been determined merely by bloodlines tell me the powers that be DAMN well believe it!
It's just like I tell my friends when we debate on "sacrifice to satanic powers". It's just as terrifying that THEY believe when they sacrifice an innocent to gain power.Even if it's a crazy theory, the end result is the same. An innocent life is lost either way.
Probably didn't explain that second half very eloquently, but I hope you got my meaning just the same:)

This is an interesting point, and a lot of this was information passed on to me in my childhood, because I was selected by genetics to be the holder of the family knowledge, and even knowledge is compartmentalized.

The point being even IF I and Icke and others are 100% wrong about the truth of the reptilian and bloodline issue.... the people who run what the people within the conspiracy world call the "NWO" the "Illuminati" and "The Elites" DO believe it. They believe it and act accordingly.

[bill23]

That is how I feel about antartica myself. Sure people SAY it is real, but I do not know anyone credible who has seen it and I sure haven't.

I have however seen reptilians first hand, so I know they are real.

theres lots of people living in antartica who can vouch for its existence unlike this rep theory.

[mcthompson2x]

theres lots of people living in antartica who can vouch for its existence unlike this rep theory.

The guy just told you he's seen a reptilian and you're trying to say there is not enough evidence...

[element]

Bill is my favourite down-to-earth guy when it comes to reptilians. :D
He has a point though. I respect the personal experiences, but the info available isn't really convincing. :o

[mcthompson2x]

I don't know why people feel like they have to be convinced to believe something is true... it seems like a better way of getting at the truth to merely accept multiple possibilities and then stack evidence on each possibility to see what seems more reasonable.

[zero1]

Should be 4 options imho:

- Yes, I believe
- Not sure, but very likely
- Not sure, but highly doubtful
- No, I don't believe

I can't vote between those two options you give.

Agree, without a "Not sure..." option the poll is unrepresentative.

[adzboarder]

I just realised that unwittingly the NWO now knows which of us on this forum believes in the reps! Our names are up there! Now they can visit us in their reptilian form and kill us! :eek:

What if they DID show their true-forms? I wonder how many of us could stand our ground against such reckless hate?

[darketernal]

I just realised that unwittingly the NWO now knows which of us on this forum believes in the reps! Our names are up there! Now they can visit us in their reptilian form and kill us! :eek:

What if they DID show their true-forms? I wonder how many of us could stand our ground against such reckless hate?

I can stand my ground just fine. Let them come. :D

[loderlive]

I just realised that unwittingly the NWO now knows which of us on this forum believes in the reps! Our names are up there! Now they can visit us in their reptilian form and kill us! :eek:

What if they DID show their true-forms? I wonder how many of us could stand our ground against such reckless hate?

I've made my position crystal clear.

[darketernal]

theres lots of people living in antartica who can vouch for its existence unlike this rep theory.

Clearly those people living in Antartica are shills... any of them have MRI results to prove they do not have a brain lession or grey matter loss from Schizophrenia?

I can assure you there are a very very small percentage of the population claim to have ever seen this "island" up close and have been there physically.

Bill there are a number of people on this forum who swear they have seen actual reptilians face to face, myself included. Myself and Mariag claim to have seen actual shapeshifts in front of us, openly on the forum. So that makes two you can confirm.

[adzboarder]

Clearly those people living in Antartica are shills... any of them have MRI results to prove they do not have a brain lession or grey matter loss from Schizophrenia?

I can assure you there are a very very small percentage of the population claim to have ever seen this "island" up close and have been there physically.

Bill there are a number of people on this forum who swear they have seen actual reptilians face to face, myself included. Myself and Mariag claim to have seen actual shapeshifts in front of us, openly on the forum. So that makes two you can confirm.

I'd like to read your account, I assume its around here somewhere...?

[darketernal]

I'd like to read your account, I assume its around here somewhere...?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30908

That thread contains a lot of the info I've put out on the subject.

I speak a great deal on the area in the voice chat a number of us on the forum have started using ventrillo, so a few forum members know a lot more of my personal history in that area.

I'm taking my time putting out information here, but over time will explain a bit more. A number of people here I talk to on the issue think that is the wisest way to do it.

[darkwriter00]

I definitely know and believe the reptilians exist. I've started to believe that it's most likely the so called evidence is AROUND everyone, right under our noses, and yes including those statues and ancient writings, and the mentioning of the obvious in Genesis and in Revelations.

It's clear that we are PART reptilian, all of us, because of the fact that human embryos when they first develop LOOK reptilian. (I was already told it's mentioned in Carl Sagan's "The Dragons of Eden", and I'm still reading it. Very interesting read btw! For those of you who don't know who Sagan is, he's a well known science and astronomy writer.) The other part is that we have what is called the Reptilian Complex, in which is where all our hard-wired instincts come from--social dominance, agressive behavior, food needs, territoral behavior, and reproduction for example. It's no wonder why a number of us are so fascinated with reptiles. I, for sure, am one of those numbers. For as long as I can remember, I've liked snakes, lizards, and even dinosaurs.

In fiction and in the media--the repeating themes of human enslavement, the mini-series V and the movie They Live (both in which I'd like to see), the repeating themes of secret societies plotting against humanity, cults involving human sacrifices/rituals to be like gods, and more.

On my current research as to how strongly connected we are to reptiles in general, I've found out some things that we have very much in common with lizards. (To know the reptoids, you've got to study the obvious reptilian animals around us.) Here's a bit of what I learned and now know that makes perfect sense;

-Lizards are found in many places all over the world; marshes and streams, forests, rainforests, deserts, prairies, in rocky areas, and even in suburban backyards. We Homo sapiens can be found in lots of places all over the world, correct?

-Many lizards can see color! (Primarily used to communicate to each other, because some species have bright colors on their bodies.)

-Some lizards can give live birth; the babies hatch in the womb before coming out.

-Of course we and lizards share the most basic instincts too.

One more thing--I know someone who's a reptoid. I mentioned my story on page 59 of the sticky topic, "Who's seen a reptilian then?"

[endlessvista]

I do not beleive in them based on a total lack of evidence, but otherwise I agree with just about everything else David Icke says.

So if Reptilians being real or not, well I really do not care and frankly it does not matter we are all wise and not cooperating with the elite be they lizards or evil people.

So it's always a win-win situation for us if we just ignore and live our lives as we choose. Ghandi was right with the non violencel non cooperation approach. There is nothng that they can do if we make them redundant. Ghandi brought down the British Empire by making salt and homespun clothes. There is a great lesson for all of us there.

That puts all wankers out of business, be they reptillians or not.

[armoured_amazon]

I've met so many non-human entities it would not surprise me in the slightest if reptilians existed in the capacity they are thought to.

[adzboarder]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30908

That thread contains a lot of the info I've put out on the subject.

Thanks man, I'll take a read.

[rydeon]

I believe that there are negative entities and dangerous forms of life out there.
I have encountered then in spirit but not quite (thankfully) in the flesh.

I believe Reptilians being just one name for them and possibly implying their traits as well.

[dooby]

I've chosen "I do not believe in Reptilians", however, if there was an "unsure" option, I would've picked that.

I do not have enough evidence to say "Yes", yet. But my mind remains open. :D

[rhydra]

I do and I don't, I do because I do believe that there are people who have other than human origins in their past lives, some may know about it, some may not and are acting unconsciously, some may just be wakening up to the true origins of their past life.
I don't because I have really not been convinced that people can change from human to reptilian in the flash of an eye, can change their body shape etc. This would have been observed much more and what happens when said person dies? Why no accounts of people croaking in hospital and turning into lizards?
Don't get me wrong, I do believe that there are others out there, they are just in human bodies. But I don't think that the situation is clear cut, for instance "them" trying to wipe humans out, eat folk and all that. I do believe that humans are being guided in some way.

[twistedconcept]

I'm unable to vote on this poll. I'm open to the possibility of reptilian entities but am unsure if they exist. I'm 50-50.

[smurf]

The guy just told you he's seen a reptilian and you're trying to say there is not enough evidence...

I once saw a mermaid and bigfoot playing a card game.
I just told you I saw it, how can you say there is not enough evidence?...

Darketernal, I'm not calling you a liar or anything. I'm just pointing out some faulty logic on his part.

[darketernal]

I once saw a mermaid and bigfoot playing a card game.
I just told you I saw it, how can you say there is not enough evidence?...

Darketernal, I'm not calling you a liar or anything. I'm just pointing out some faulty logic on his part.

Fair enough... but why then do we accept everything else we are told without being given evidence. We appeal to authority... not to evidence. ;)

[smurf]

Fair enough... but why then do we accept everything else we are told without being given evidence. We appeal to authority... not to evidence. ;)

That is true. I'll think of a good answer, just wait. :p

[darketernal]

That is true. I'll think of a good answer, just wait. :p

I'm sure you will my friend. :D

So tell me... why do you believe in this island at the south pole they call "Antartica"? Because someone drew it on a map? Because someone of authority wrote in a book they have been there? Because someone took a picture of a frozen tundra and told you it was this place? Because a school teacher repeated this same information to you? No no... people in their conditioned state do not value evidence... appeal to authority for all their information. They repeat what has been passed on to them.

[blondina1]

So tell me... why do you believe in this island at the south pole they call "Antartica"? Because someone drew it on a map? Because someone of authority wrote in a book they have been there? Because someone took a picture of a frozen tundra and told you it was this place? Because a school teacher repeated this same information to you? No no... people in their conditioned state do not value evidence... appeal to authority for all their information. They repeat what has been passed on to them.

A very valid point :rolleyes:

[jojo]

I saw someone shapeshift into a rep once. It was an ex who had been very high up in the military. I had to keep myself very still on the inside and show no sign of fear. I suppose i lived through it by connecting to infinate oneness. It was fucking horrible though. And it took about 9 months to fully recover.

I understand others wont believe me as its not happened to them, however, i know what happened, and their agreement is not necessary to me.

[darketernal]

I saw someone shapeshift into a rep once. It was an ex who had been very high up in the military. I had to keep myself very still on the inside and show no sign of fear. I suppose i lived through it by connecting to infinate oneness. It was fucking horrible though. And it took about 9 months to fully recover.

I understand others wont believe me as its not happened to them, however, i know what happened, and their agreement is not necessary to me.

Jojo. I believe you.

[jojo]

Jojo. I believe you.
:) i know you do. :)

[lenejento]

I saw someone shapeshift into a rep once. It was an ex who had been very high up in the military. I had to keep myself very still on the inside and show no sign of fear. I suppose i lived through it by connecting to infinate oneness. It was fucking horrible though. And it took about 9 months to fully recover.

I understand others wont believe me as its not happened to them, however, i know what happened, and their agreement is not necessary to me.

Jojo, would you like to share this experience in detail?
Or have you already done so? :)

[drael]

I do beleive in the annunuki/reptiles. However not exactly in the manner icke presents, or people here tend to beleive in.

I would not describe them as having an "agenda", i would describe it as an "overzelous/greedy/arrogant application of an assigned role". I beleive in multi-dimensionality, and in this, their are natural negative roles that actually need doing (refer, say, to law of one). It is my beleif that both the early lyrans, and the annunki influenced early culture, and that their is a treaty between the descendants preventing direct influence of culture (which is why the annunuki hide and lie etc, they have no other need to they are a very powerful warrior race). I dont not beleive they hold open positions of power, or such, rather they lead the elite cabal from the shadows.

There purpose here, now, is simply to "steal" energy from us, but again, not in the commonly held sense. Our capacity to dream and imagine is particularly powerful. The 4d, which is their primary dimension, is one where imagining, dreaming etc, is like a resource - u can actually live, for example in someones dream. The annunki, being negative, get off on the darker stuff, so they like to promote fear. (Which by itself, interestingly, slowly reduces imagination, cutting off the resource)

I suggest everything alien shud be highly cross-referenced anyway, theres alot of conflicting opinion out there. And IMO also check _older_ material. Often material is perverted over time, specially on the net. The annunuki story has for example changed from a multi-alien story, over time, into one where the annunuki are the only real players. If u check older books/stories etc, ull find that. Seems the modern stories pump the fear up significantly by doing that.

Id also like to say, that the existance of bloodlines, amongst the elite, doesnt have to be at all connected to reptiles. Could be magickal genes, altantean genes, albatross king genes, jesus's genes etc. Just to throw that out there :)

Ive seen a sirian though, admittedly a shared telepathic image broadcast from a UFO, but i tested it (ie we all drew seperately without descriptions or conversation - and all three were identical), and the ship was sirian too (according to the seen types).

I know nothing really, of reality, excepting that peoples own experiences are all we can go on, even all the different ones people have, and the rest is a mystery.

However, without my perspective of the annunuki being assigned to look after us on earth, i struggle with motivations. If they need slaves, why not robots? or gene-engineered super-slaves. If they need "fear" energy, or even just want to dominate us, why dont they just take one male and one female and start an off-world colony? If they want our resources, why not kill us? Doesnt quite add up to me.

[energi]

If they want our resources, why not kill us? Doesnt quite add up to me.

It's in your signature: Imagination is more powerful than knowledge!

For example, I had a dream where a friend of mine knocked on my door and stood there with a joint/spliff/cannabis cigarette in his hand, which I couldn't believe occured after waking up since I knew how much he was against drug usage (including medicines) overall.

Yet, it took him half a year before surrendering to his temptations and actually trying it out with me and other friends (he had a blast, really, it was great:D).

So yes, what you think - or perceive, since thoughts are forced illusions by our minds - create your reality every second.

It's like a huge paradox - now that we at the DI forums knows all of this stuff, we would either need to share it furthermore with the universe OR forget it over time, since both would remove the NWO/rep agenda completely, just at different speeds.

[krakhead]

Can I be awkward and say that I neither believe nor dis-believe?

Sorry.

I've read too much RAW to fall into either/or thinking!

I would say, however, that I consider the idea of actual shape-shifting lizard people improbable.

But not impossible.