Is David Icke New Age?

[mada88]

I didn't know where to put this so what lthe heck lol
Anyway why do people consider David to be new age? answers on a postcard lol.
I keep telling em look at the end chapters of infinte love.

[earthseed]

I don't know he's very against the new age just calls it the same old thing repackaged. But, he does take a lot of new research and put it in his books. Some people think anything new or newly rediscovered is new age.

[awakensong]

I didn't know where to put this so what lthe heck lol
Anyway why do people consider David to be new age? answers on a postcard lol.
I keep telling em look at the end chapters of infinte love.
Isn't it sort of New Age-y to channel "Consciousness" while high on a psychedlic plant, such as what he either did in Brazil or copied from someone else's writings?

[pollock]

Isn't it sort of New Age-y to channel "Consciousness" while high on a psychedlic plant, such as what he either did in Brazil or copied from someone else's writings?

That sounds more ancient than new age to me!

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[auron]

Anyway why do people consider David to be new age? answers on a postcard lol.

Answer:

Because people are fucking stupid and don't take the time to read any of his material. :D

[i am all i am]

Anyway why do people consider David to be new age? answers on a postcard lol.

G'day Mada88.



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Because they like to label everything in an attampt to confine it and make it appear otherwise than what it is.

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[mada88]

old age new age same thing. The 33rd degree magazine was called the new age. Its just appears that the new age is just the old age re-packed. It is like what David says the last thing stopping us like a goal keeper.

[2tuff]

We must remember that much of whats termed New Age simply IS NOT new age at all and its simply ancient knowledge and traditions passed on for centuries. learning about Chakra systems for instance will be classed as New Age when its been around since the creation of man and animals which all have Chakras.

[earthseed]

Isn't it sort of New Age-y to channel "Consciousness" while high on a psychedlic plant, such as what he either did in Brazil or copied from someone else's writings?

No people have been tripping for as long as humans have been around. But, again if you think he is liar I don't know why you are here in the first place. And don't tell me it's for the sake of balance that is such a shill thing to say.

[awakensong]

No people have been tripping for as long as humans have been around. But, again if you think he is liar I don't know why you are here in the first place. And don't tell me it's for the sake of balance that is such a shill thing to say.
The New Age has also been here for as long as humans have been around. Read upwards a bit -- New Age/ Old Age: same thing. The original question of this thread is what I was responding to. Perhaps he IS New Age in certain ways, and if so, I never said one way or the other whether I cared or not.

Who are you to judge or even question why another person is here, or to stand in judgement of why a certain question was asked, and then assign a label to it? Just because it is a New Age practice to take psychedilic drugs, as has been practiced for millenia, doesn't make someone a liar if they engage in it. (Your post really makes no sense, sorry. Balance?).

You sound angry, not to mention presumptuous. Do you know that anger is fear in disguise? I have to wonder if it's you who thinks David is a liar, for the lack of love in your post, and the presence instead of accusations and outright rudeness.

[james777]

I have to jump in here as I see feelings hurt and tempers flaring. Honestly now, if David is new age then he's new age and if he's not, he's not. The 'real' question is, "Is this guy David (Ex-footballer, sidelined by arthritis and now author) Icke really a trustworthy man? Just because he's slick with a pen and knows how to 'publicly' speak doesn't make him a truth-sayer. Consider Hitler (not that I think Icke is a nazi or anything), he was a very persuasive and knowlegable man, fooled many and killed others, but we find out later that he was just another puppet on the world's stage.

So, as far as the same old thing 'repackaged', perhaps Icke should look at his own status and possibly ponder what is his role here really?? Just because you've read a couple of this guys books and watched some of his videos doesn't mean that you should put all your apples in his basket. Most people I've encountered here practically worship Icke as some type of god, but let's face it, if Icke dies tomorrow, that's it, he'll be dead, no ressurection, no fancy re-incarnation, just cold flesh in a lifeless body and we'll all still have the same questions........truth is not in man. So whether this guy David Icke is New Age or not, it really isn't an important answer.

[james777]

I have to jump in here as I see feelings hurt and tempers flaring. Honestly now, if David is new age then he's new age and if he's not, he's not. The 'real' question is, "Is this guy David (Ex-footballer, sidelined by arthritis and now author) Icke really a trustworthy man? Just because he's slick with a pen and knows how to 'publicly' speak doesn't make him a truth-sayer. Consider Hitler (not that I think Icke is a nazi or anything), he was a very persuasive and knowlegable man, fooled many and killed others, but we find out later that he was just another puppet on the world's stage.

So, as far as the same old thing 'repackaged', perhaps Icke should look at his own status and possibly ponder what is his role here really?? Just because you've read a couple of this guys books and watched some of his videos doesn't mean that you should put all your apples in his basket. Most people I've encountered here practically worship Icke as some type of god, but let's face it, if Icke dies tomorrow, that's it, he'll be dead, no ressurection, no fancy re-incarnation, just cold flesh in a lifeless body and we'll all still have the same questions........truth is not in man. So whether this guy David Icke is New Age or not, it really isn't an important answer.

[celtic isis]

I have to jump in here as I see feelings hurt and tempers flaring. Honestly now, if David is new age then he's new age and if he's not, he's not. The 'real' question is, "Is this guy David (Ex-footballer, sidelined by arthritis and now author) Icke really a trustworthy man? Just because he's slick with a pen and knows how to 'publicly' speak doesn't make him a truth-sayer. Consider Hitler (not that I think Icke is a nazi or anything), he was a very persuasive and knowlegable man, fooled many and killed others, but we find out later that he was just another puppet on the world's stage.

So, as far as the same old thing 'repackaged', perhaps Icke should look at his own status and possibly ponder what is his role here really?? Just because you've read a couple of this guys books and watched some of his videos doesn't mean that you should put all your apples in his basket. Most people I've encountered here practically worship Icke as some type of god, but let's face it, if Icke dies tomorrow, that's it, he'll be dead, no ressurection, no fancy re-incarnation, just cold flesh in a lifeless body and we'll all still have the same questions........truth is not in man. So whether this guy David Icke is New Age or not, it really isn't an important answer.


If you actually read any of icke's books you will see he is anti new age crap, people following masters and last night i was reading 'And the Truth Shall Set You Free'. read that, you'll see if he's new age or not. He's NOT.

and yes, he is a truthsayer, you can just feel it through his work, and i wouldn't really call him slick with a pen, he is an excellent writer but as i said before his books are quite full of typing errors which show that having to self publish mostly he does the best he can with what he has.

i really don't know what all these threads trying to condemn icke apart are all about.

If you don't agree with him then don't read him lol, get off this site, go someplace else, a christian worship one maybe lol

we've all got our own minds here and it doesn't matter anyway, the NWO is almost a done deal, it doesn't matter who is one of them, it's still happening, you can see that more everyday.

Excuse me but i for one am not putting all my eggs in one basket. i'm on this forum cause i like the people and it's really interesting, most of us are on the same level, we're not having to explain the whole deal to anyone. All of us question things, we son't just blindly follow anyone cause then we'd be no different to the ignorant sheep who just accept everything their told.

You can hardly compare hitler and icke lol

[celtic isis]

I So whether this guy David Icke is New Age or not, it really isn't an important answer.


then why ask the question in the first place?! :rolleyes:

and if icke died tomorrow, he wouldn't just be cold flesh empty shell whatever, there are people who know the truth about this stuff that happens after death, i've watched my own mam die i know what happens after and so does my honours in chemistry engineer programmer of a brother.

[celtic isis]

I don't know he's very against the new age just calls it the same old thing repackaged. But, he does take a lot of new research and put it in his books. Some people think anything new or newly rediscovered is new age.

Most people are just fucking stupid and that's it lol

There's nothing to do with them.

sorry i'm really pissed off today, from people. :mad:

[auron]

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Watch his latest DVD. Then tell me he is "New Age"

You will find he certainly isn't.

If you still think he is... Well then..

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[celtic isis]

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Watch his latest DVD. Then tell me he is "New Age"

You will find he certainly isn't.

If you still think he is... Well then..

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good on ya auron :) i need more of a sense of humour, lol i've lost mine lately :)

[james777]

If you actually read any of icke's books you will see he is anti new age crap, people following masters and last night i was reading 'And the Truth Shall Set You Free'. read that, you'll see if he's new age or not. He's NOT.

and yes, he is a truthsayer, you can just feel it through his work, and i wouldn't really call him slick with a pen, he is an excellent writer but as i said before his books are quite full of typing errors which show that having to self publish mostly he does the best he can with what he has.

i really don't know what all these threads trying to condemn icke apart are all about.

If you don't agree with him then don't read him lol, get off this site, go someplace else, a christian worship one maybe lol

we've all got our own minds here and it doesn't matter anyway, the NWO is almost a done deal, it doesn't matter who is one of them, it's still happening, you can see that more everyday.

Excuse me but i for one am not putting all my eggs in one basket. i'm on this forum cause i like the people and it's really interesting, most of us are on the same level, we're not having to explain the whole deal to anyone. All of us question things, we son't just blindly follow anyone cause then we'd be no different to the ignorant sheep who just accept everything their told.

You can hardly compare hitler and icke lol


Actually I have read Icke's book and I KNOW what he has written. One thing though is that actions speak louder than words. Anyways, I've never said that he was or he wasn't(NEW AGE), I really don't care how he wishes to associate his beliefs. If you believe he's a truth-sayer then GREAT!!, but that doesn't mean he is. You have become awfully defensive and I haven't even made any personal remarks toward anyone, I guess I've hit a vital nerve though...damn....

By the way, I never said you put all your eggs in anybodies basket so why are you feeling the need to defend yourself?? Are you OK? Maybe it's you who should join another forum where feelings aren't so easily hurt.........and of course you can compare Hitler with Icke and many, many others.........just remember that most non-conformists ended up being the biggest puppets on the tightest strings..........but you only see what your heart allows you to.

BTW, Behold A Pale Horse is an exellent book also........R.I.P. William Cooper

[dondaz]

I often pop into second hand bookshops to check if they have any of Mr Ickes books. When I enquire I mostly get a look as if to say, "what would you want to read his books for."

I make a note never to go back to that bookshop again. I like to tell them this, it gets them squirming.

I was in a book shop here in birmingham the other week and out of curiosity I asked if they had any David Icke books?

"Try the new age section, if not there's a new age book shop in bla bla street!"

I didn't even bother looking in their new age section.

However, on visiting the Malvern Hills (Worcester) last week, I came across a cracking little bookshop.

"Hi, do you have any books by David Icke?" I asked.

"I'm not sure if we have anything in at the moment, but try upstairs in the spiritual section, there may be something there. His books are very popular and are sold almost as soon as we get them."

That was good enough for me. Up the stairs I went. There was none in stock, but what a refreshing feeling I got when this fella was so open minded, who actually knew of David Icke and wasn't dumb down to put Mr Icke in the new age section.

I will be paying that bookshop another visit when next in the Malverns.

David Icke new age? I don't think so!

Best

Darren

[celtic isis]

Actually I have read Icke's book and I KNOW what he has written. One thing though is that actions speak louder than words. Anyways, I've never said that he was or he wasn't(NEW AGE), I really don't care how he wishes to associate his beliefs. If you believe he's a truth-sayer then GREAT!!, but that doesn't mean he is. You have become awfully defensive and I haven't even made any personal remarks toward anyone, I guess I've hit a vital nerve though...damn....

By the way, I never said you put all your eggs in anybodies basket so why are you feeling the need to defend yourself?? Are you OK? Maybe it's you who should join another forum where feelings aren't so easily hurt.........and of course you can compare Hitler with Icke and many, many others.........just remember that most non-conformists ended up being the biggest puppets on the tightest strings..........but you only see what your heart allows you to.

BTW, Behold A Pale Horse is an exellent book also........R.I.P. William Cooper

lol i'm seriously confused lol

and sorry if i'm a bt hormonal lol :D

you have the habit of making people defensive though james, cause you keep saying things and then retracting the whole thing you said after.

i respect icke, i enjoy his books, but of course i keep a healthy awareness of him too and well the truth is in me, in all of us, don't need to follow icke or anyone, just he isn't new age lol he is against it.

and also, i doubt there is forum that exists where people don't get hurt, cause sharing views with anyone means arguements...i only started to come on forums this year so i'm not used to yet lol

[celtic isis]

I often pop into second hand bookshops to check if they have any of Mr Ickes books. When I enquire I mostly get a look as if to say, "what would you want to read his books for."

I make a note never to go back to that bookshop again. I like to tell them this, it gets them squirming.

I was in a book shop here in birmingham the other week and out of curiosity I asked if they had any David Icke books?

"Try the new age section, if not there's a new age book shop in bla bla street!"

I didn't even bother looking in their new age section.

However, on visiting the Malvern Hills (Worcester) last week, I came across a cracking little bookshop.

"Hi, do you have any books by David Icke?" I asked.

"I'm not sure if we have anything in at the moment, but try upstairs in the spiritual section, there may be something there. His books are very popular and are sold almost as soon as we get them."

That was good enough for me. Up the stairs I went. There was none in stock, but what a refreshing feeling I got when this fella was so open minded, who actually knew of David Icke and wasn't dumb down to put Mr Icke in the new age section.

I will be paying that bookshop another visit when next in the Malverns.

David Icke new age? I don't think so!

Best

Darren


aww thanks for that darren :)

we live in hope eh.

[misscpb]

I didn't know where to put this so what lthe heck lol
Anyway why do people consider David to be new age? answers on a postcard lol.
I keep telling em look at the end chapters of infinte love.

Maybe the new age could be translated to mean many things, including freedom and awareness/expanded consciousness, our own power, other realms and dimensions and reality etc

[celtic isis]

Maybe the new age could be translated to mean many things, including freedom and awareness/expanded consciousness, our own power, other realms and dimensions and reality etc

yep you're right Misscpb :)

They just stick all of this in a box and label it New Age, and well keep most of the population in ignorance about it in the process, for fear of being labelled a hippie or whatever.

There's a big difference between the esoteric knowledge and truths and new age mumbo jumbo half truths. :D

ah it's frustrating, give a tiny amonut of the info available to the public, but dress it up in such a way as to make them run even faster towards the approved science and dogma lol and further from the truth that is already inside them...making the others looking to gurus and whatnot when they don't need this either. lol
:rolleyes:

[misscpb]

:)

[barbitone]

I think we should do without these labels. That's....kinda the point is it not.:rolleyes: David Ickes research covers way too many topics to be nailed down to any classification IMO.



I think it's just: "The Truth as best we can perceive it."

[celtic isis]

I think we should do without these labels. That's....kinda the point is it not.:rolleyes: David Ickes research covers way too many topics to be nailed down to any classification IMO.



I think it's just: "The Truth as best we can perceive it."

exactly :) they always have to stick everything in a box and label it don't they :rolleyes:

You can't label the truth, the truth is just the truth lol

[baron von lotsov]

Yes there are a lot of New Age concepts buried in some of Ickes theories. I suppose he has been influenced by people indoctrinated with this philosophy. The one that really gets me is the concept of 'your own truth'. This is deadly Tavistock style shit that encourages the victim to discard any notion of an absolute framework, and to construct ideas prompted by a kind of experience of 'being', to use NA jargon. Now combined with the concept of being open-minded, which is code to being receptive to emotional brainwashing material and you have a brain which is a straight conduit to be programmed in whichever way the elite see fit. An absolute and unchanging basis of what is what or sometimes referred to, as 'worldview' will generally mitigate against a programme of social change.

To give an example lets consider one of their projects that they call euthanasia. To start with people's worldview encompasses the concept that killing is absolutely wrong. Now along come the Tavistock scientists and they find someone who is in extreme pain and has been persuaded to want to end it. The public are conditioned by this sort of thing and bit-by-bit they extend what is generally regarded as acceptable. A fixed view, normally called a 'narrow mind person' would not allow this to happen.

[bigus_dickus]

'your own truth', means that everyone believes something and that 'rings' true to each, which means that each truth is a truth. but, what it really really means is your own lie. and that is simply because truth cannot be owned. so if each one of us believed in our "own" truth, there would be no truth there. it's quite simple actually, because any kind of "truth" would be the sum total of the "truths", which would be the sum total of the lies, so "truth" would not be truth.

what is an open mind.. if we perceive the mind as a programmable platform in which we build ideas and beliefs by programming them module by module, then an open mind would be nothing else but an 'open source' platform in which anyone given permission is able to add their own modules.

there is no reason to have a mind opened or closed. there is reason to understand that we are the end programmers of our minds and that we are fully responsible for our choices and decisions.

[awakensong]

I would just like to know if any two people can agree on what "the one truth" is. Perhaps this is where the phrase "your own truth" came from. Everyone's perspective, if not experience, is different.

Michael Tsarion and others have said "Truth cannot be known". Perhaps it is our own reality that we each have, the experience of which is "true" to us.

[baron von lotsov]

Here, this link is a pretty good summary of New Age beliefs.

Each one is there for a reason ,considering that it has been constructed to become the world religion. See how much of this tallies with Icke doctrine.

No. 2- Relativism is what we are talking about as often reffered to as 'your own truth'.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/new_age_beliefs.htm