Marriage

[pri01]

I would like some views on this. From a sociological point of view it seems to be a ritual that is expected. From a biological point of view it seems to be necessary for the survival of the offspring. That is, both sexes take part in parental care. What is the answer?

[tracker]

I would like some views on this. From a sociological point of view it seems to be a ritual that is expected. From a biological point of view it seems to be necessary for the survival of the offspring. That is, both sexes take part in parental care. What is the answer?


marrage ?

:eek:


ive never been married , but thats because i do believe in it so much .

whilst i do say marrage isnt neccassary for adults to be responsible parents , i cant halp but think that to find that one time life lover who is that special that they marry each other , well , it must b like a fairy tail , all cakes and smile and stuff .

but ?
to raise chilren responsibly , doesnt need a cert.
it needs caring loving responsible parents .


:cool:

[homebrew1973]

Both that word and the word christmas make me want to puke, just as well I`ve an old homebrew bucket to do it in :rolleyes:

[turquoisefire777]

the way society's degrading there's definately going to be no marriage.

in fact, it could all end up like those fake celebrity shows.

[bendoon]

I am "married" but do not have a certificate from the state nor did I partake in any type of ceremony. To me marriage is when you make a mutual commitment to another person, the state does not have any part to play in that arrangement.

[kreesurgeon]

It's an interesting question. One that i've been asking my self recently

there seems to be two aspects to "marriage"

religious - getting the blessing of some "God"
Legal - getting the blessing of some paper work

I want to marry my fiance because i love her dearly and want to show the world this. However, I don't believe in the "god/gods" that religions babble on about and i don't have any respect for any authority higher than myself so cannot get legally married unless I do it entirely my way and create my own legal documents.

[duckingdafta]

I would like some views on this. From a sociological point of view it seems to be a ritual that is expected. From a biological point of view it seems to be necessary for the survival of the offspring. That is, both sexes take part in parental care. What is the answer?

it's different if children are raised in a 'Cinderella theory' I say this as my partner always dreams of a lovely wedding and a big event with happy freethinkers of all religions (due to she couldn't decide a style).. if it was none religious and free she'd get it!...

personally I have a problem with people claiming they follow a belief and then when it actually comes down to it..do they actually live it? I dragged my partner out of a kind of 'cult' some call Mormonism and her American family don't like it and so I am now evil... as I am an Atheist, I follow my feelings and thoughts. So taking this on board, my partner is now outcast as I refuse to marry (I also don't want us to become connected in a strawman fashion..as it itself carries certain rights to me being a freeman of the land) and yet we have been partners for 20 years (july 3rd 88).. and have four kids and they all have her parents family name through respect of them both not being here in physical form to see them (some call deceased, not my belief). I never wish to change a persons beliefs, but hers just have as I live by mine and don't just use them whenever it suits a purpose...if you believe something live it and stop pretending, then you can spot those manipulating your belief. What really puts me off is it isn't connected to belief no more, it's used to connect religion to politics and these are supposed to be separate entities.

to me all marriage is, is a theft from pagan belief of connection of persons for life long..and manipulated into a way to see it as religious and so tax it. I love my partner and that's all that matters..everything else is just material benefit from that.



man alive!..I babble on the tinnies, i forgot the question!

[duckingdafta]

I am "married" but do not have a certificate from the state nor did I partake in any type of ceremony. To me marriage is when you make a mutual commitment to another person, the state does not have any part to play in that arrangement.

perfect..if I had thought of that i wouldn't have wrote the crap above^^^...I could have just said ditto

[biblegirl]

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[boots]

I am "married" but do not have a certificate from the state nor did I partake in any type of ceremony. To me marriage is when you make a mutual commitment to another person, the state does not have any part to play in that arrangement.

Good post and so true.

I'd also add that you can have all the ceremony etc, and the commitment is made when you say "with this ring I thee wed" simple no doco's no government to uses your STRAWMAN as collateral, no contract to be made with the government, just with our partner.

If the love is there, what else do you need to bring up, your future children.

[phonicboom]

"if marriage didn't exist... would you invent it?" (doug stanhope) :D

[haukipesukone]

I am "married" but do not have a certificate from the state nor did I partake in any type of ceremony. To me marriage is when you make a mutual commitment to another person, the state does not have any part to play in that arrangement.

That's the kind of marriage I can agree with. But I couldn't call it marriage. That's love or something.


there seems to be two aspects to "marriage"

religious - getting the blessing of some "God"
Legal - getting the blessing of some paper work


That's the real marriage. Coined by church and state to control you. A political union, nothing to do with love.

[armoured_amazon]

marrage ?

:eek:


ive never been married , but thats because i do believe in it so much .

whilst i do say marrage isnt neccassary for adults to be responsible parents , i cant halp but think that to find that one time life lover who is that special that they marry each other , well , it must b like a fairy tail , all cakes and smile and stuff .

but ?
to raise chilren responsibly , doesnt need a cert.
it needs caring loving responsible parents .


:cool:

I agree. :)

I don't know that I'll get married but I don't think that it is expected any more in western society (I can't remember the last time I know someone who married...I tell a lie, I've been to two weddings in my adult life. I think more people should get married. Too many relationships are disposable, especially when there are children involved. Conversely, I think that marriage needs to be taken more seriously by a lot of people who 'commit' to it.

[tracker]

I agree. :)

I don't know that I'll get married but I don't think that it is expected any more in western society (I can't remember the last time I know someone who married...I tell a lie, I've been to two weddings in my adult life. I think more people should get married. Too many relationships are disposable, especially when there are children involved. Conversely, I think that marriage needs to be taken more seriously by a lot of people who 'commit' to it.

armoured amazon

agreed:D

the main problem is , too many people don't actually know what a marriage is.
they don't understand the terms
loving relationship ;
relationship ;
partner .

because many people actually confuse the issues in the mind , they confuse the issue and there fore make mistakes on who they pick to marry .

i will explain .

a relationship is exactly what it is A "relationship" . i have a good relationship with my mother but that does not mean we have a lovers relationship .:eek:
i have relationships with all my X lovers , these relationships are of the "friendly" manner and no more . A decent respect for each other and that's that .

i have a partner .
we are not lovers , but our "partnership" is based around our common bond , our lovely daughter of 6 years old .
i respect the mum , she respects the daddy . it is our moral duty to get on , after all we have a daughter , and we both have a partnership understanding in the upbringing of our flower .
there for , we have a good relationship of father and mother partnership in the common bond of our child's upbringing .

Loving relationship .
well that speaks for it self .

so my point is this , if we can confuse the real terms of what a "relationship" is and what a "Marriage" is , then from the out start , we are basing our judgements on a confused issue , which is why many of us can make the wrong choice which ends up in the "disposable" marriage scenario you have so justly crowned it as .

its no difference to people who say

"these people are friends of mine"

when what they really mean , is that are drinking mates or associate .
then they wonder why
their friends are never around when they want them .

if we confuse the issue on the inside of our minds , the common mistakes always tend to surface in the end as a "wrong choice" through wrong perceptions .

i have never been married , but that's because i truly believe in the bond .

glad i haven't married my X .:D when she was expecting or before , because now we are not lovers , so my strong belief and understanding as served me well , so far that is.
also
people are so lonely and desperate because they are able to live with out the delusion that they need some one else to justify their existance , that they cant wait to marry off .
i strongly believe that a person who is willing to give it all in one night , can throw it away just as easy , and they often do .too many people settle for second best and years down the road wonder why they didnt do such and such .
well thats my point on it .


:cool:

[homebrew1973]

Have you noticed that load of dinosaurs the Tories are once again promising tax incentives for married couples in their latest attempt to fool the gullible masses known as voters? I call that discrimination, there are many of us that either can`t get married or (in my case anyway) choose not to.

[phonicboom]

i married for a visa, the only way to solve the sticky laws that oppress.

i love for love and we will be together forever :) We would not have the need to go official but just had to prove the the government that we were serious so $10 dollars of paperwork and 30mins of our time satisfied big brother of something we know in our hearts.

[rydeon]

Have you noticed that load of dinosaurs the Tories are once again promising tax incentives for married couples in their latest attempt to fool the gullible masses known as voters? I call that discrimination, there are many of us that either can`t get married or (in my case anyway) choose not to.

I know, it seems to both parties, being single is a dirty word.
I won't be using it as an incentive to get married that's for sure.

I prefer and do true companionship with another than some 'official' paperwork and the states approval in partnership.

[fromthatshow]

I think marriage is selfish. It is basically a proclamation of your insecurity. An inability to trust that goes so far as to say I vow in front of all these people to be faithful to you forever. You are my only one.