Question for forum about the Constitution

[cruise4]

There are Americans strongly arguing for this document as the answer to our troubles, or at least theirs. I find this somewhat disheartening.

I'm hoping you will post your views/thoughts on the Constitution.

[size_of_light]

There are Americans strongly arguing for this document as the answer to our troubles, or at least theirs. I find this somewhat disheartening.

I'm hoping you will post your views/thoughts on the Constitution.

Here it is.

http://www.usconstitution.net/

[neomagic]

There are Americans strongly arguing for this document as the answer to our troubles, or at least theirs. I find this somewhat disheartening.

I'm hoping you will post your views/thoughts on the Constitution.

Why, please explain. :)

[h2pogo]

I think its because the constitution is a bit of paper designed to protect the people from oppressive government and tyranny.
and of course their rights to be free.
why do you find that disheartning?

[cruise4]

Because I think it does the exact opposite. And did. But I was hoping for more in-depth views, but ho hum. I'm honestly starting to think Americans particularly, and others, have lost all sight of what freedom actually entails.

[bendoon]

Because I think it does the exact opposite. And did. But I was hoping for more in-depth views, but ho hum. I'm honestly starting to think Americans particularly, and others, have lost all sight of what freedom actually entails.

The US Government is always trying to subvert the constitution.

If it had been adhered to there would be no Federal Reserve and none of the problems we are facing right now.

[cruise4]

"If it had been adhered to there would be no Federal Reserve and none of the problems we are facing right now."

I agree on the Fed Reserve and I agree those in power have totally subverted the Constitution. I can even see why it's a useful tool right now to bring those in power down. But all that is only the 'immediate' problem's we face now.

The Constitution is but a 'civilising' of an inherent underlying coercive slave system. It has some useful points but basically advocates state, law and passing on responsibility yet again.

People say it offers protection against Government excess. But it hasn't, has it? There is room for subversion.

The money system was a problem when it was attached to Gold. Banks have always been a problem. Land and resource aquisition has always been one of the main core problems yet most will quite happily return to these things and the same problems will arise again and again. It advocates an unfair voting policy. It advocates democracy. All these things are problems that need solving not redoing.

And I do believe that the people, all the people, can rule themselves with no centralised anything.

I feel ahead of my time and that many are 'mired in the past', or something.

Still, I can support the US Constitutional fight, for now, as it's useful. But as a solution... No, it isn't. We can do much better.

I wondered if we could agree on the need to end coercion. But No, not even that. I haven't had a single response supporting the end of coercion. But to me that's the endgame. That's what is so disheartening. It appears to me that even now people are not seeing clearly past the programming and opting for that which they know. But that's another slave system. Nothing has actually made me feel sad since getting into all this stuff, but this bit has. If humanity still isn't prepared to change, and grow up and really throw out their dictated rule books then how can we win anything worth having?

Not at all happy about this turn of events. I thought we were fighting for true freedom. But many aren't.

(Many are on this forum. I than God for this place. The most enlightened people around if you ask me).