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steevo
18-09-2008, 11:43 PM
A Jewish family has moved in recently in to our estate and tonight I have heard that 3 girls who are 12 and 13 have been arested for shouting "Jew" to them. I think they were charged with racism (according to a neighbour).
Racism is a terrible thing and these girls have been very stupid and ignorrant and their parents are really annoyed with the kids and also with the police for arresting these girls. I dont know why the girls picked on these Jewish people. Actually I'm surprised that Jewish people have moved here because I dont think that I have ever met a Jewish person in my life. (not that I know of anyway).
I think that the police have been told to expect civil unrest (cos let's face it the PTB have been manipulating this to happen for a while now) and I wouldnt be surprised if they have been told to give priority to these cases.
Also, the arrest of these girls could spark anti-Jewish feelings and THAT is what the powers that be want. It's fits very well with the anti muslim situation that is happening right now. Divide and Conquer.
By the way, regarding Jews, I feel that labeling the Illuminati as Jews is just a cover for the Illuminati to hide behind, so that when the shit hits the fan, the brainwashed sheeple will start fighting each other (rather than bringing the Illuminati to Justice) - Jews against Muslims, Whites against Jews, Police against whites, Police against blacks, blacks against white, whites against asians, everyone against civil enforcement officers......etc etc
Anyway, I just thought that I would let you know about this because I feel that the PTB actually WANT us to have a civil war and these girls will be giving the Illuminati hope, because , let's face it, I dont think that this country has the stomach for a REAL civil war. But it will be a bit different if the food runs out :cool:
ennui
19-09-2008, 12:11 AM
In '30s Germany it was common for Jews to be called names and spat at and the authorities did nothing to prevent it. That didn't turn out so good.
I'm not saying you're not right, and that this isn't some ploy to cause civil unrest. All these new hate crime laws they've bought in don't appear to be making us one big happy multi-cultural country, but it seems like it's one of those cases that whatever the police do, it will be the wrong thing.
steevo
19-09-2008, 12:18 AM
In '30s Germany it was common for Jews to be called names and spat at and the authorities did nothing to prevent it. That didn't turn out so good.
I'm not saying you're not right, and that this isn't some ploy to cause civil unrest. All these new hate crime laws they've bought in don't appear to be making us one big happy multi-cultural country, but it seems like it's one of those cases that whatever the police do, it will be the wrong thing.
The PTB need scapegoats so they create them. Most policemen IMO dont even know or care (cos they are brainwashed sheeple) what is really behind all the laws that they are enforcing. I would think that a few of them are waking up now though.
ennui
19-09-2008, 12:31 AM
The PTB need scapegoats so they create them. Most policemen IMO dont even know or care (cos they are brainwashed sheeple) what is really behind all the laws that they are enforcing. I would think that a few of them are waking up now though.
I had an interesting conversation with a couple of police officers the other day. We were talking about all the news laws being bought in (sec 44 terrorism act etc) and the erosion of freedom. They all agreed that not only are there more laws to control people but also that they can't do their jobs properly because of those laws - example being the stop and search form they have to fill in every time they talk to someone. They simply don't bother talking to anyone anymore!
I bought up 1930s Germany (I think there are interesting parallels with what's happening now) and pointed out that police officers there were just doing their jobs too. Then I asked these officers if things got too bad in this country would there come a point when they felt able to say "No, I refuse to do that". The replies I got were quite interesting. Mostly they were concerned that if they refused an order they would lose their jobs and pension. In the end they agreed that the only way they could refuse something was en mass. I found that pretty depressing because something like that would never happen. They can't even strike when the government has conned them out of their pay settlement, and they're still arguing over what, if any, action to take about it, so I really can't see them being organised enough to refuse an order.
But you live in hope.
steevo
19-09-2008, 12:56 AM
I had an interesting conversation with a couple of police officers the other day. We were talking about all the news laws being bought in (sec 44 terrorism act etc) and the erosion of freedom. They all agreed that not only are there more laws to control people but also that they can't do their jobs properly because of those laws - example being the stop and search form they have to fill in every time they talk to someone. They simply don't bother talking to anyone anymore!
I bought up 1930s Germany (I think there are interesting parallels with what's happening now) and pointed out that police officers there were just doing their jobs too. Then I asked these officers if things got too bad in this country would there come a point when they felt able to say "No, I refuse to do that". The replies I got were quite interesting. Mostly they were concerned that if they refused an order they would lose their jobs and pension. In the end they agreed that the only way they could refuse something was en mass. I found that pretty depressing because something like that would never happen. They can't even strike when the government has conned them out of their pay settlement, and they're still arguing over what, if any, action to take about it, so I really can't see them being organised enough to refuse an order.
But you live in hope.
Yes I live in hope.
When I came into contact with the police, I didnt ask those questions that you asked but I when I was speaking to them you could see that they were pissed off about the stupid new laws such as all the new stuff about wheelie bins and refuge collection. Some coppers are actually not bad people. It's the really brainwashed ones who are dangerous.
I agree that this is just like the 1930s in Germany. I watched all those episodes of "Nazis - A Warning From History" and it's panning out here now almost exactly the same except the muslims are being persecuted instead of the Jews, but like I say, the PTB probably dont care who we are fighting as long as it isnt them.
bendoon
19-09-2008, 01:59 AM
Lets see, two kids get arrested for calling a Jew a Jew ?
Would 2 Jewish kids be arrested for calling an English person English ?
steevo
19-09-2008, 02:10 AM
Lets see, two kids get arrested for calling a Jew a Jew ?
Would 2 Jewish kids be arrested for calling an English person English ?
Judaism is a religion, not a nationality as far as i'm aware. But I know what youre meaning here.
If a certain group of people seem to be favoured and others not, then this creates civil unrest usually and that's what they want.
eternal_spirit
19-09-2008, 02:13 AM
Judaism is a religion, not a nationality as far as i'm aware.
Yet they play the race card when it suits them. Same as when they say they only believe and follow the Old testament when it suits them, in reality Judaism is mostly based on the Talmud.
bendoon
19-09-2008, 02:17 AM
Judaism is a religion, not a nationality as far as i'm aware. But I know what youre meaning here.
If a certain group of people seem to be favoured and others not, then this creates civil unrest usually and that's what they want.
A friend of my GF works at Asda. an Asian customer shouted at her "hey white woman" so she refused to serve him, he reported her and she was disciplined.
So yes I see what you mean they are causing resentment by appearing to give preferential treatment to minorities, suppose its all part of the plan really.
stelios
19-09-2008, 02:38 AM
In Stamford Hill there are thousands of Jews and not a single racist incident.
This is a storm in a teacup deliberately created and blown up to cause panic and outrage.
The people to blame is our Labour government who have created this mess.
People should be able to mix up and integrate and should all be treated equally.
Yet the rules are not equal.
And why does every single government or council document always ask for race to be stated, surely in a modern democratic country it should not matter what race or religion a person follows.
Jews should be free to live anywhere in the UK they want without fear. As should Muslims and Christians and Atheists.
In America did you know that Black radio stations refused to play Craig David's music because he was Jewish and considered too white to be black?
steevo
19-09-2008, 02:50 AM
In Stamford Hill there are thousands of Jews and not a single racist incident.
This is a storm in a teacup deliberately created and blown up to cause panic and outrage.
The people to blame is our Labour government who have created this mess.
People should be able to mix up and integrate and should all be treated equally.
Yet the rules are not equal.
And why does every single government or council document always ask for race to be stated, surely in a modern democratic country it should not matter what race or religion a person follows.
Jews should be free to live anywhere in the UK they want without fear. As should Muslims and Christians and Atheists.
In America did you know that Black radio stations refused to play Craig David's music because he was Jewish and considered too white to be black?
ANYWAY, this thread is NOT about trying to make sure that EVERYONE who apparently descriminates be arrested. I had only mentioned that to highlight a point, I didnt mean that I wanted more people arrested. The answer to this problem is to address the CAUSES of the problem, and to eliminate the causes, we must stop the "powers that be" from MANIPULATING sheeple into hating each other.
snoopsnuffleopagus
19-09-2008, 08:58 AM
A Jewish family has moved in recently in to our estate and tonight I have heard that 3 girls who are 12 and 13 have been arested for shouting "Jew" to them. I think they were charged with racism (according to a neighbour).
Racism is a terrible thing and these girls have been very stupid and ignorrant and their parents are really annoyed with the kids and also with the police for arresting these girls. I dont know why the girls picked on these Jewish people. Actually I'm surprised that Jewish people have moved here because I dont think that I have ever met a Jewish person in my life. (not that I know of anyway).
I think that the police have been told to expect civil unrest (cos let's face it the PTB have been manipulating this to happen for a while now) and I wouldnt be surprised if they have been told to give priority to these cases.
Also, the arrest of these girls could spark anti-Jewish feelings and THAT is what the powers that be want. It's fits very well with the anti muslim situation that is happening right now. Divide and Conquer.
By the way, regarding Jews, I feel that labeling the Illuminati as Jews is just a cover for the Illuminati to hide behind, so that when the shit hits the fan, the brainwashed sheeple will start fighting each other (rather than bringing the Illuminati to Justice) - Jews against Muslims, Whites against Jews, Police against whites, Police against blacks, blacks against white, whites against asians, everyone against civil enforcement officers......etc etc
Anyway, I just thought that I would let you know about this because I feel that the PTB actually WANT us to have a civil war and these girls will be giving the Illuminati hope, because , let's face it, I dont think that this country has the stomach for a REAL civil war. But it will be a bit different if the food runs out :cool:
Hatred is a learned emotion. Someone. Somewhere. TAUGHT them to HATE, in this case, 'Jews'.
Was it at home? Was it at School? In the Playground? Maybe on the Internet.
I recently began a Thread I titled Judaism 101, in order to provide a basic overview of a Religion that has figured in Humankinds History. My intent was benign, dispassionate, and impartial. Like a Wiki. :)
I was thinking about starting a new Thread and call it Jewbashing 101, as that seems it would be very popular.
No shit.
So who taught these little girls to HATE...................
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................................... ..........
Oh, right, the PTB
Hate Propaganda :eek:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=403529&postcount=8
The Reality
http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/three.html
http://talmud.faithweb.com/
'We have met the enemy, the enemy is us"
Everytime we take on Doctrines and Beliefs because it Tickles our ears, or Resonates, or 'Feels Right', without performing Due Diligence. Check it out. Is what is being proffered 'reasonably factual'?
There is always 'Blowback', when Hate Propaganda is promoted and provided. ;)
We must 'Check' ourselves, or we will Wreck ourselves.
armoured_amazon
19-09-2008, 10:16 AM
Also, the arrest of these girls could spark anti-Jewish feelings and THAT is what the powers that be want. It's fits very well with the anti muslim situation that is happening right now. Divide and Conquer.
So what would have been the right response? Leave them alone and let them and others think that kind of persecutory behaviour is okay? Of course not.
runciter
19-09-2008, 10:21 AM
Hate Propaganda :eek:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=403529&postcount=8
The Reality
http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/three.html
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Prohibition on Incest
Incest was not only hushed up in stories, but also tabooed by laws, bans, commandments and repetitions. Most of the laws of the Torah are found in the Third. Book of Moses, including the prohibition on incest (Lev. 18 and 20.) Many of the laws in chapter 20 are repeated from from chapter 18, for example, the prohibition on homosexuality (Verse 22.) In Israel and in progressive Judaism, (Reform and Liberal Judaism), homosexuality is currently no longer taboo. Unfortunately, mention of incest still is.
We find the prohibition on incest in greater detail in Lev. 18,6-17. In the following list, the specific prohibitions on incest are given. The perpetrator is always the one to whom the prohibition applies:
- General prohibition on incest, Verse 2;
- Sex with parents, verse 7, perpetrator: child;
- Sex with the mother, respectively, step-mother, Verse 8, perpetrator, child;
- Sex with the sister, respectively, half-sister, Verse 9, perpetrator: child:
- Sex with the aunt, Verse 12-13, perpetrator: child;
- Sex with the uncle, Verse 14, perpetrator: child.
- Sex with the uncle's wife, Verse 14, perpetrator: child;
- Sex with the sister-in-law, Verse 15; perpetrator: child;
- Sex with the daughter-in-law, Verse 15, perpetrator: child;
- Sex with the granddaughter, Verse 19, perpetrator: grandfather;
- Sex with the step-daughter, Verse 17, perpetrator: step-father;
- Sex with step-granddaughter, Verse 17, perpetrator: step-grandfather.
In most of the cases (7 from 11), the perpetrator is the child, who doesn't have to be a minor. The first detailed prohibition refers to sex with the parents. There is, however, no prohibition that refers to sex with the daughter or son. The biological father and biological mother, are not denoted as perpetrators. There is no woman as perpetrator.
http://www.hagalil.com/bet-debora/jewish-women/golandsky.htm
cruise4
19-09-2008, 10:35 AM
"So what would have been the right response? Leave them alone and let them and others think that kind of persecutory behaviour is okay? Of course not."
Perhaps a quiet word with the parents would have sufficed. But we don't exactly live in a sane world these days. What I am certain about though is Police involvement was deliberate overkill and almost certainly meant for the 'scapegoating' of segments of society as mentioned previously.
tothestars
19-09-2008, 10:52 AM
A Jewish family has moved in recently in to our estate and tonight I have heard that 3 girls who are 12 and 13 have been arested for shouting "Jew" to them. I think they were charged with racism (according to a neighbour).
Racism is a terrible thing and these girls have been very stupid and ignorrant and their parents are really annoyed with the kids and also with the police for arresting these girls. I dont know why the girls picked on these Jewish people. Actually I'm surprised that Jewish people have moved here because I dont think that I have ever met a Jewish person in my life. (not that I know of anyway).
I think that the police have been told to expect civil unrest (cos let's face it the PTB have been manipulating this to happen for a while now) and I wouldnt be surprised if they have been told to give priority to these cases.
Also, the arrest of these girls could spark anti-Jewish feelings and THAT is what the powers that be want. It's fits very well with the anti muslim situation that is happening right now. Divide and Conquer.
By the way, regarding Jews, I feel that labeling the Illuminati as Jews is just a cover for the Illuminati to hide behind, so that when the shit hits the fan, the brainwashed sheeple will start fighting each other (rather than bringing the Illuminati to Justice) - Jews against Muslims, Whites against Jews, Police against whites, Police against blacks, blacks against white, whites against asians, everyone against civil enforcement officers......etc etc
Anyway, I just thought that I would let you know about this because I feel that the PTB actually WANT us to have a civil war and these girls will be giving the Illuminati hope, because , let's face it, I dont think that this country has the stomach for a REAL civil war. But it will be a bit different if the food runs out :cool:
What so "racism" about calling a jew a jew? I thought they are proud of being a jew?
breezinreezin
19-09-2008, 11:03 AM
Racism is a terrible thing and these girls have been very stupid and ignorrant and their parents are really annoyed with the kids and also with the police for arresting these girls. I dont know why the girls picked on these Jewish people. Actually
A terrible thing, hmmmm, sounds like a socially inculcated response to me. Calling somebody names for being racially different is a terrible thing? An act that warrants arresting a child? I don't think so. Calling others names because of their religion or race, well it's hurtful, but no more so than if they were obese or had acne. I would of thought that it would be less hurtful, unless of course you happened to think there was something shameful about your race or creed.
Sticking a knife in someone, now that's a terrible thing. Singling other kids out for being different, is as natural to kids as picking noses. It's innate. A product of social evolution over millenia. Like sticks with like. Picking on those that are different is a form of social bonding, reinforcing an identity. And, no, it is not taught, it's hardwired.
drhemp
19-09-2008, 11:15 AM
In America did you know that Black radio stations refused to play Craig David's music because he was Jewish and considered too white to be black?
Surely they should refuse to play Craig David's music, because he's shit?
redskywalker
19-09-2008, 11:30 AM
HAHAAHAHAHA nice one lol
neomagic
19-09-2008, 12:32 PM
Surely they should refuse to play Craig David's music, because he's shit?
That is simply not true.
peachped
19-09-2008, 12:34 PM
If Judaism is a religion and not a race, shouldn't these children be prosecuted under religious hatred laws instead of racial hatred laws?
ennui
19-09-2008, 12:43 PM
If Judaism is a religion and not a race, shouldn't these children be prosecuted under religious hatred laws instead of racial hatred laws?
The new (ish) hate crime laws in the UK cover race, colour, ethnic origin, nationality or national origins, religion, gender or gender identity, sexual orientation and disability.
What so "racism" about calling a jew a jew? I thought they are proud of being a jew?
You really don't understand what's wrong with being shouted at in the street?
runciter
19-09-2008, 01:32 PM
You really don't understand what's wrong with being shouted at in the street?
isn't there something wrong with being arrested for this, if you're a 12yr girl?
mynameis
19-09-2008, 02:34 PM
Without a affidavit for this story it has no legs and I don't believe a word of it, as it is all hearsay.
steevo
19-09-2008, 02:57 PM
Without a affidavit for this story it has no legs and I don't believe a word of it, as it is all hearsay.
That's probably the best way of looking at it.
steevo
19-09-2008, 02:58 PM
isn't there something wrong with being arrested for this, if you're a 12yr girl?
That's exactly what I think.
isn't there something wrong with being arrested for this, if you're a 12yr girl?
Theres something wrong about being arrested at any age for saying it. What ever happened to freedom of speech?. Even then all they said is jew , if your a jew and you get offended when someone calls you a jew , you need to get help.
psych641
23-09-2008, 03:57 AM
Theres something wrong about being arrested at any age for saying it. What ever happened to freedom of speech?. Even then all they said is jew , if your a jew and you get offended when someone calls you a jew , you need to get help.
Thats absolutely right, they shouldnt feel offended. However, depending on the intonation, volume & any accompanying gestures used etc, they could quite reasonably feel threatened, intimidated & persecuted.
psych641
23-09-2008, 04:04 AM
Actually I'm surprised that Jewish people have moved here because I dont think that I have ever met a Jewish person in my life. (not that I know of anyway).
really? :confused: thats hard for me to believe, unless your a hermit from the orkneys or somewhere lol. :D
Perhaps you dont view people in religious/racial terms.
(arguably jew isnt a race anyway etc..)
mentalogirl
23-09-2008, 12:53 PM
I was listening to a broadcast on Radio 4 about the 60 years of Israel,etc,and Howard Jacobson came on and said something about the Jewish 'psyche' or state of mind:that the Jewish people will NEVER feel safe,even with all the guarantees in the world.
If you never feel safe,you start seeing threatening ghosts everywhere.
shodan
23-09-2008, 12:57 PM
isn't there something wrong with being arrested for this, if you're a 12yr girl?
thats the one
http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/banksy_glastonbury_police_search.jpg