Credit Crunch creates New World Order

[numbersix]

I was reading the BBC news website on articles about the credit crunch and was instantly drawn to this one mentioning the New World Order being created by the credit crunch...

Looks like its all being engineered!!!

See the following link...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/

[jesta_g]

I was reading the BBC news website on articles about the credit crunch and was instantly drawn to this one mentioning the New World Order being created by the credit crunch...

Looks like its all being engineered!!!

See the following link...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/



yip its very interesting and obvious ..... been posted on he forum 4 times now tho.;) :p

[pri01]

I hear the words 'Credit Crunch' on the television, in newspapers magazines etc. It's as if the country is on its knees. Yet when I go to the supermarket, namely Asda and Tesco it's absolutely heaving with shoppers who's trollies are full to the brim. The news does not match reallity in my opinion. People have money to spend, but for how long I do not know.:confused:

[jesta_g]

I hear the words 'Credit Crunch' on the television, in newspapers magazines etc. It's as if the country is on its knees. Yet when I go to the supermarket, namely Asda and Tesco it's absolutely heaving with shoppers who's trollies are full to the brim. The news does not match reallity in my opinion. People have money to spend, but for how long I do not know.:confused:


people arnt going to notice it all until theres lttle or no food on the shelves or no money in their account. its bloody insanty, we are going into a market crash and shops etc are still promoting sales for people to spend spend spend - "I GOT TO BUY IT, I GOT TO BUY IT,I GOT TO BUY BUY BUY, CHIN PO-KO-MON "

this is exactly what the elite want, people still walking around like the sheepp they are while the wolves gradually surround them, move between them and get ready to make their move.
its quite sickening, im still trying to wake folk up and sme of my closest "friends" still want t mock or disregard it.
the majority of people are going to get well hell of a wake up call.

[tusme]

I was reading the BBC news website on articles about the credit crunch and was instantly drawn to this one mentioning the New World Order being created by the credit crunch...

Looks like its all being engineered!!!

See the following link...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/
Hi Numbersix,

Hmm...of-course it was engineered, was they any doubt that it weren't...!?

They're p!ssed off co's we wouldn't accept their "truth gift's", the leader's (Bush & Bliar, etc, etc) that they have chosen for us, 9/11, Iraq and Afghanistan, etc, etc...

So now, they've engineered the "credit crunch"...and the collapse of global financial service industry...!!

Why? because they believe, it's what we deserve, for our insolence...!

And how? because it's their game and their rules...!

The question is, are we going to allow them to succeed...!? ;)

Cheers!

[disorder2k8]

I hear the words 'Credit Crunch' on the television, in newspapers magazines etc. It's as if the country is on its knees. Yet when I go to the supermarket, namely Asda and Tesco it's absolutely heaving with shoppers who's trollies are full to the brim. The news does not match reallity in my opinion. People have money to spend, but for how long I do not know.:confused:

I totally agree, if its there, I havent seen it yet.

[tusme]

I hear the words 'Credit Crunch' on the television, in newspapers magazines etc. It's as if the country is on its knees. Yet when I go to the supermarket, namely Asda and Tesco it's absolutely heaving with shoppers who's trollies are full to the brim. The news does not match reallity in my opinion. People have money to spend, but for how long I do not know.:confused:
Hi Pri01,

The Credit Crunch...is basically, all the zero's, the banks in the US/UK were allowed by the NWO/elitist, to reflect on their books/systems...ie, debt as money...

The NWO/elitists are p!ssed off, it's payback time...this is not how it was meant to pan out...after 9/11, they (these banks) projected the above actions would be vindicated/justified...or at least, their books would be balanced...

What none of these people NWO/elitists, nor the banks, want to acknowledge, is the People Power involved here...

If we, the people had allowed Bush and Bliar to continue their deeds unabated, then, this Credit Crunch would never have happened...and thats a fact!

Anyway, thats my 2p... ;)

Cheers!

[armchair philosopher]

I work as a financial writer and I can tell you the credit crunch is very much there, but let's not get confused between the credit crunch and inflation.

The credit crunch is limiting people's access to loans and mortgages. In itself it does not make anyone poorer, except some people who are forced to take higher interest rates when they remortgage. Most people, in reality, are barely affected.

Inflation is what will test people's pockets, and although the official rate is 4.7%, in reality inflation is around 10% (the Government are very clever about making inflation look less harsh than it actually is). It's not a figure that is going to devastate most people, and indeed most people are just buying budget, hence the budget supermarkets such as Aldi and Lidl reporting large profits, and people's outgoings aren't changing that much.

What COULD cause very serious problems is a) rising unemployment, for obvious reasons and b) if more banks do go out of business - presumably the winners will be people who are borrowing from those banks, but the losers will be people with a lot of savings.

The Government automatically insure savings up to the value of £35,000, but I don't fancy the chances of them compensating millions of people if the economy does collapse entirely.

However, I do not think the economy will collapse - the worst case scenario is a complete re-jig of the system, which may cause hyper-inflation as seen in Germany after WW2. But ultimately we would be OK.

Hope that clears things up for a few people.

[tusme]

I work as a financial writer and I can tell you the credit crunch is very much there, but let's not get confused between the credit crunch and inflation.

The credit crunch is limiting people's access to loans and mortgages. In itself it does not make anyone poorer, except some people who are forced to take higher interest rates when they remortgage. Most people, in reality, are barely affected.

Inflation is what will test people's pockets, and although the official rate is 4.7%, in reality inflation is around 10% (the Government are very clever about making inflation look less harsh than it actually is). It's not a figure that is going to devastate most people, and indeed most people are just buying budget, hence the budget supermarkets such as Aldi and Lidl reporting large profits, and people's outgoings aren't changing that much.

What COULD cause very serious problems is a) rising unemployment, for obvious reasons and b) if more banks do go out of business - presumably the winners will be people who are borrowing from those banks, but the losers will be people with a lot of savings.

The Government automatically insure savings up to the value of £35,000, but I don't fancy the chances of them compensating millions of people if the economy does collapse entirely.

However, I do not think the economy will collapse - the worst case scenario is a complete re-jig of the system, which may cause hyper-inflation as seen in Germany after WW2. But ultimately we would be OK.

Hope that clears things up for a few people.
Hi Armchair philosopher,

This is not about inflation...or at least, not yet!

The banks have been told (by the NWO/elitists), they no longer have the liberty of "making money out of nothing"...for example, debt!

That is why, they're "limiting people's access to loans and mortgages"...!

Thats what all this is about...! These people and institutions are all FUCKING CRIMINALS, the lot of them...! If this were you or I, we'd be in prison by now!! ...swines! :mad:

Cheers!

[jesta_g]

[QUOTE=tusme;511402][B][I]These people and institutions are all FUCKING CRIMINALS, the lot of them...! If this were you or I, we'd be in prison by now!! ...swines! :mad:

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i bloody hear you on that, these mudda fuckas will seriously not get away with this. they know we as one will bring them to their knees, they hide nd for that reason alone. they will be brought to true justice.

[disorder2k8]

nice one armchair philosopher

Well i dont have any savings personally, though my father does. And I was worried he might lose them.

Also this place is a variation of freehold/ or leesehold and we dont pay mortage, only bills and a land maintenance fee (nothing really) for cutting grass outside, I guess we'll be ok?

[armchair philosopher]

nice one armchair philosopher

Well i dont have any savings personally, though my father does. And I was worried he might lose them.

Also this place is a variation of freehold/ or leesehold and we dont pay mortage, only bills and a land maintenance fee (nothing really) for cutting grass outside, I guess we'll be ok?

Yes, I would say so.

I am not exctly an expert just yet, but as far as I can tell, if the financial system collapsed entirely, people would just have to stay put. Mortgage and rent couldn't be paid, and landlords/mortgage lenders would have no incentive to kick people out.

However - I strongly doubt the financial system will collapse entirely. Not deliberately by the elite anyway - bear in mind the elite need money too and they need people who can run their normal day-to-day lives to get to where they want to be.

Plus a complete financial collapse would stop the TV and print media from running, so they would have no means of manipulating the masses.

Without a working economy they are as useless as anybody else.

[armchair philosopher]

I'd just like to add, though, I did see that New World Order article on the BBC and it concerned me too. I keep seeing those three words crop up and I was wondering why.

So I did a little Wikipedia search on the term. Turns out 'New World Order' was being used as far back as WW1. It was more commonly used around the time of the Cold War as a reference to dismantling of all nuclear weapons, which was an idea suggested by the Russians at one point.

I suspect most times that we read the words 'New World Order' in the mainstream media, it is a reference to that. I'm sure there is the occasional reference slipped in by the elite, but remember that most writers are like you and me, just ordinary people doing their jobs. So I very much doubt that much elite/Illuminati symbolism actually makes it into the MSM. The MSM is used more as a propaganda tool, if anything, which is much easier to do.

[tusme]

[QUOTE=tusme;511402][B]These people and institutions are all FUCKING CRIMINALS, the lot of them...! If this were you or I, we'd be in prison by now!! ...swines! :mad:

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i bloody hear you on that, these mudda fuckas will seriously not get away with this. they know we as one will bring them to their knees, they hide nd for that reason alone. they will be brought to true justice.
[I]Hi Jesta_g,

Hmm...I'm speechless my friend!?

I dunno who I should be more p!ssed off with, the Universe/GOD or them...!? :mad:

WHY?????

They've got the resources, why don't they all just fuck-off to the Moon...and be the NWO/elitist all they want over there...!? :D

Cheers

[disorder2k8]

hm, well the way i look at it, they dont need money, they have all the gold and the power/control.. only we need money, as we place a value on it, but it is ultimately worthless.


when they take the money away it will allow for 2 things they apparently want, physical and financial panic (and control)

[romas]

hm, well the way i look at it, they dont need money, they have all the gold and the power/control.. only we need money, as we place a value on it, but it is ultimately worthless.


when they take the money away it will allow for 2 things they apparently want, physical and financial panic (and control)



They don't need money for their own economic needs, because they have more then enough, they need money to build new world order, secret projects, bribery etc, need alot of money for those things ;)

[armchair philosopher]

It's all becoming quite clear now. Taking the money away and/or making it a rare commodity will have us on our knees... it is essentially power to them - we will do whatever the Government(s) tell us we need to do to get out of this mess.

I fear it is genuinely the start of the NWO's reign.

The only upside (if you can call it that) is that they need a functioning society to support THEM, so it's not like we're going back to the stone age - just expect your civil liberties to be extremely limited in the next few years.

I can only pray that a) there is a massive public uprising - by strength in numbers we can take these people out of power. If billions of people decide they are not in power, then they are not. Or b) this talk of an alien rescue (genuine, not false flag) is true.

Either way hold tight and stay positive, guys. :)

[deckard]

Billions of people will be too comfortable to get rid of these guys, even though they know they are enslaved, its a comfortable prison.
The only way you would get that kind of uprising, would be if people felt their lives were threatened, or they were in extreme discomfort or need, and part of the NWO's trap is to not have that, otherwise it would collapse.

[armchair philosopher]

Billions of people will be too comfortable to get rid of these guys, even though they know they are enslaved, its a comfortable prison.
The only way you would get that kind of uprising, would be if people felt their lives were threatened, or they were in extreme discomfort or need, and part of the NWO's trap is to not have that, otherwise it would collapse.

I think you're right.

I don't even know what I'd rather have myself. A lifetime struggle that MIGHT (or might not) end in freedom for my children, or a comfortable but controlled existence, like a caged bird? I honestly don't know.

[deckard]

I think you're right.

I don't even know what I'd rather have myself. A lifetime struggle that MIGHT (or might not) end in freedom for my children, or a comfortable but controlled existence, like a caged bird? I honestly don't know.

Comfort no matter what the price is a hard thing to give up, thats why the NWO has been pushing the love of materialism on us for decades, their unrelenting message of having more and more stuff will make you happy.
Our Grand parents lived in much smaller houses, had only one car etc but they had spiritual wealth, which is a billion times greater than anything material wealth could ever give you.
If you want to beat the NWO, turn your back on their material trap, their message of indulgence, their message of demand, that way you see what is really important.

[armchair philosopher]

Comfort no matter what the price is a hard thing to give up, thats why the NWO has been pushing the love of materialism on us for decades, their unrelenting message of having more and more stuff will make you happy.
Our Grand parents lived in much smaller houses, had only one car etc but they had spiritual wealth, which is a billion times greater than anything material wealth could ever give you.
If you want to beat the NWO, turn your back on their material trap, their message of indulgence, their message of demand, that way you see what is really important.

I'm certainly becoming less materialistic regardless of the NWO. I hate shopping centres and magazines, anything that promotes a materialistic outlook on life for that matter.

I am constantly telling my girlfriend to stop reading her fashion and celebrity mags - all they do is make her insecure and want more stuff, she feels a need to improve herself based on these things - and let me tell you she is not a bad looking girl by a long shot, yet these things still get to her. It's a very obvious cancer on our society that needs stamping out.

That said I am a sucker for gadgets and technology, but only stuff I can afford and will use. I don't spend money I don't have and I don't buy anything on a whim.

[tusme]

Hi Armchair philosopher & Deckard,

Many people have predicted all this to happen and even more still to come...the difficult part is, predicting when it would happen...more importantly, whether people would actually listen to these types of predictions...!?

One thing is certain, thus far, the elitists have been very successful about giving us our "truths"...and thereby, completely shutting us off the reality that the perfect Truth existing within us all...!

You guys have nailed it...it's gonna be hard but it can be done, and it's got to be done...! Truth, no only is it the most powerful of all energies, it is the only energy which existed at the "beginning"...and the only energy which will prevail in the "end"...if there is such a thing as the "end"...!?

If these elitists are permitted to achieve their goals...it will eventually lead to our and indeed, their self-destruction...!

And the Truth is, despite what all the religious people and books say, it's never meant to be that way...Truth is our only hope left...and indeed, will ensure that we overcome all these evil people...!

The reason most people find it hard to oppose or stand up to the NWO, is because, most of them believe that their "hard working ethic" and the understanding of, "GOD helps those who help themselves...", is the only things that matters, hence, whatever material possessions they have, it is what GOD supposedly "blessed" them with...some people's psyche have been completely mess-up!!

Thats is why "cognitive dissonance" is such an important subject...of-course, there's nothing wrong with owning material possessions...but if, those possession takes precidence over the Truth...then it will all everntually count for nothing...just like it now seems the case...!

Anyway, thats my take...good debate you 2 are having, I'm enjoying it...! ;)

Cheers!

[deckard]

later, Im tired, and I want to post with a clear head.

[cleopatraxxx]

Credit Crunch creates New World Order

i would rename the title to

New World Order creates CREDIT CRUNCH... and more is to come, the masses are still watching X-Factor and games, and drinking and drinking...

i dont think anyone will be bothered, and will only blame the government for being shit to them, when if fact too the sheep are to blame for being stupid, stupidly guided and lured... blah, blah...

the ones who are wanting some answers and truths are only a minority and thus there is not much one can do, but to be aware is half the way to answers already... imho..


cleo
xxx

[bicycle]

ALISTAIR Darling is to boost Britain's faltering economy by giving 30 million one pound coins to poor people.


Mr Darling assured the Labour conference in Manchester that these coins are top quality but should not be used in fruit machines, adding: "They won't work. I've checked.

"And don't go examining them to see if the Queen's head is lined up properly because that's a lot of bollocks anyway.

"Look, who are you going to believe? The BBC website or the guy - me - who has the actual keys to the Royal Mint and can go in - whenever - and just take loads and loads of pound coins? Exactly."

The chancellor said the economy had been damaged by reckless lending and excessive debt, but stressed everything was going to be fine because he had just applied for a £90bn overdraft.

Mr Darling insisted the loan was affordable as it was no more than 600,000 times his current salary.

He told delegates: "I'll just cut back on DVDs and Haagen Dazs. And I'll cancel my gym membership. Why do people pay for a fancy gym when they can just go for a run? Doesn't cost any money to go for a run.

"And I'll start getting the bus to work and I'll renovate all my old shoes and I'll make loads of soup. It tastes so much better when you make it yourself, doesn't it? And it's so cheap!"

Meanwhile the government has pledged to crackdown on City bonuses right up to the point where everyone moves to Hong Kong.

[hokhmah]

deckard, you said,
Comfort no matter what the price is a hard thing to give up, thats why the NWO has been pushing the love of materialism on us for decades, their unrelenting message of having more and more stuff will make you happy.
Our Grand parents lived in much smaller houses, had only one car etc but they had spiritual wealth, which is a billion times greater than anything material wealth could ever give you. If you want to beat the NWO, turn your back on their material trap, their message of indulgence, their message of demand, that way you see what is really important.


Well said, and absolutely spot on the mark!!

[armoured_amazon]

What I find odd is at this time of tightening the purse strings I am having all sorts of loans thrown at me. I also got sent a credit card last week from my bank (I've never used credit so I have no credit history and therefore have never been approved for a credit card; I always use debit cards and cash). Surely this is at odds with the whole idea of it being more difficult? Or is it a case of tptb wanting to rein me in because I've managed to stay out of debt?

[tusme]

What I find odd is at this time of tightening the purse strings I am having all sorts of loans thrown at me. I also got sent a credit card last week from my bank (I've never used credit so I have no credit history and therefore have never been approved for a credit card; I always use debit cards and cash). Surely this is at odds with the whole idea of it being more difficult? Or is it a case of tptb wanting to rein me in because I've managed to stay out of debt?
Hi Armoured_amazon,

Of-course...! Consider yourself, very fortunate...! Very few people, even those with "money", can enjoy such a True Freedom...!

Enjoy it...! :)

Cheers,

Ps, ...went into my local bank the other day, was told, by a lovely lady, there's a credit card waiting for me...if she wasn't so nice, I surely would've been tempted to say..."f@ck-off"! :)

And then, yesterday, my mobile phone provider text me a messages, saying, "they're worried, that I haven't been using my phone lately..." If only I had abit of credit, I would've reponded with the Biggest Fucking "FUCK OFF" message they have every seen...!! :)

[lottie]

Ive noticed over the last few weeks customers and public constantly talking about the 'credit crunch' and 'tightening the purse strings' but tbh i havnt felt it? (maybe its impending) but so far it's not affected my everyday spending ie; shopping, bills etc....i dont know whats going on....i think its just fear mongering but everyone's behaving as if they're skint despite the ruby's and diamonds they display in jewellery and expensive clothing! It's all psychological!

[armoured_amazon]

Hi Armoured_amazon,

Of-course...! Consider yourself, very fortunate...! Very few people, even those with "money", can enjoy such a True Freedom...!

Enjoy it...! :)

Cheers,

Ps, ...went into my local bank the other day, was told, by a lovely lady, there's a credit card waiting for me...if she wasn't so nice, I surely would've been tempted to say..."f@ck-off"! :)

And then, yesterday, my mobile phone provider text me a messages, saying, "they're worried, that I haven't been using my phone lately..." If only I had abit of credit, I would've reponded with the Biggest Fucking "FUCK OFF" message they have every seen...!! :)

LOL :D

I just received a text this morning - "Hi Emma. I've got your app for £7000 from a company you contacted. Call me before 7pm if you are still looking for the loan."

I never was looking for one! :rolleyes: This is probably the 6th text I've had re: this loan in the past month or so. :D

[deckard]

Dont take it, if you want to make money, save it, dont borrow.

[armoured_amazon]

Dont take it, if you want to make money, save it, dont borrow.

I'm going to keep ignoring them. :)

eta: £7000 is an odd amount, don't you think?

[thegoodnessisgood]

I think you are all missing one thing, and that is population control. They don't want ALL of us. Just the ones they need, bred from a larger population. What if the real plan WAS to collapse the system finally and forever, they already have their gold, land, war machines, bases, and everything else, they just need to a) collapse the system (easy) b) go door to door and dispense of dissidents first, the rest next c) keep the "lucky" slaves who will be microchipped and go to work. You will have your work force of a) scientists / engineers and workers b) farmers and then all the other industries they want. People would get paid enough to keep going and function in a new electronic currency society.

OR

If they don't want to kill too many at once, just for arguments sake, you could theoretically collapse the financial system for a short period, have the "brainy elites" publicly come out with a "solution" which would be a universal electronic currency to "save the day" everyone was equal, end of third world debt etc.

I personally think the former is more on the cards however if we are in THAT much danger, I personally HOPE very much for the "good" alien arrival as that is quite terrible a scenario. Everyone watching the skies for october 14/15 eh.... I must say I hope, and doubt at the same time.

If it does happen or something massive scale does occur remember to trust your feeling not your eyes.

And again, I don't think they know as much as some think they do, as much as they may see around the next corner, they didn't see the map changes all the time now more than ever. Fate is not up to them, they're just trying to play the system and they think they know the winning numbers but the game has changed.

[armoured_amazon]

I think you are all missing one thing, and that is population control. They don't want ALL of us. Just the ones they need, bred from a larger population. What if the real plan WAS to collapse the system finally and forever, they already have their gold, land, war machines, bases, and everything else, they just need to a) collapse the system (easy) b) go door to door and dispense of dissidents first, the rest next c) keep the "lucky" slaves who will be microchipped and go to work. You will have your work force of a) scientists / engineers and workers b) farmers and then all the other industries they want. People would get paid enough to keep going and function in a new electronic currency society.

OR

If they don't want to kill too many at once, just for arguments sake, you could theoretically collapse the financial system for a short period, have the "brainy elites" publicly come out with a "solution" which would be a universal electronic currency to "save the day" everyone was equal, end of third world debt etc.

I personally think the former is more on the cards however if we are in THAT much danger, I personally HOPE very much for the "good" alien arrival as that is quite terrible a scenario. Everyone watching the skies for october 14/15 eh.... I must say I hope, and doubt at the same time.

If it does happen or something massive scale does occur remember to trust your feeling not your eyes.

And again, I don't think they know as much as some think they do, as much as they may see around the next corner, they didn't see the map changes all the time now more than ever. Fate is not up to them, they're just trying to play the system and they think they know the winning numbers but the game has changed.

I can imagine your second option happening before the first. :)

[deckard]

I'm going to keep ignoring them. :)

eta: £7000 is an odd amount, don't you think?

Is a bit, thats about 12,500 Aus, down here we do loans in 5, 10, 15, 20,000 etc amounts.
But dont take it, its just a trap, save is the best way, I try to keep a 100 saved every week.