The Army's Totally Serious Mind-Control Project

[deca]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1841108,00.html
The Army's Totally Serious Mind-Control Project
By Mark Thompson / Washington Sunday, Sep. 14, 2008Army scientists want to cram this array of brain-wave reading sensors into a helmet.
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Facebook Yahoo! Buzz Mixx Permalink Reprints Related Soldiers barking orders at each other is so 20th Century. That's why the U.S. Army has just awarded a $4 million contract to begin developing "thought helmets" that would harness silent brain waves for secure communication among troops. Ultimately, the Army hopes the project will "lead to direct mental control of military systems by thought alone."


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If this sounds insane, it would have been as recently as a few years ago. But improvements in computing power and a better understanding of how the brain works have scientists busy hunting for the distinctive neural fingerprints that flash through a brain when a person is talking to himself. The Army's initial goal is to capture those brain waves with incredibly sophisticated software that then translates the waves into audible radio messages for other troops in the field. "It'd be radio without a microphone, " says Dr. Elmar Schmeisser, the Army neuroscientist overseeing the program. "Because soldiers are already trained to talk in clean, clear and formulaic ways, it would be a very small step to have them think that way."

B-movie buffs may recall that Clint Eastwood used similar "brain-computer interface" technology in 1982's Firefox, named for the Soviet fighter plane whose weapons were controlled by the pilot's thoughts. (Clint was sent to steal the plane, natch.) Yet it's not as far-fetched as you might think: video gamers are eagerly awaiting a crude commercial version of brain wave technology — a $299 headset from San Francisco-based Emotiv Systems — in summer 2009.

The Army doesn't move quite as fast as gamers though. The military's vastly more sophisticated system may be a decade or two away from reality, let alone implementation. The five-year contract it awarded last month to a coalition of scientists from the University of California at Irvine, Carnegie Mellon University, and the University of Maryland, seeks to "decode the activity in brain networks" so that a soldier could radio commands to one or many comrades by thinking of the message he wanted to relay and who should get it. Initially, the recipients would most likely hear transmissions rendered by a robotic voice via earphones. But scientists eventually hope to deliver a version in which commands are rendered in the speaker's voice and indicate the speaker's distance and direction from the listener.

"Having a soldier gain the ability to communicate without any overt movement would be invaluable both in the battlefield as well as in combat casualty care," the Army said in last year's contract solicitation. "It would provide a revolutionary technology for silent communication and orientation that is inherently immune to external environmental sound and light."

The key challenge will be to develop software able to pinpoint the speech-related brain waves picked up by the 128-sensor array that ultimately will be buried inside a helmet. Those sensors detect the minute electrical charges generated by nerve pathways in the brain when thinking occurs. The sensors will generate an electroencephalogram — a confusing pile of squiggles on a computer screen — that scientists will study to find those vital to communicating. "We think we can train a computer to understand those squiggles to the point that they can read off the commands that your brain is issuing to your mouth and lips," Schmeisser says. Unfortunately, it's not a matter of finding the single right squiggle. "There's no golden neuron that's talking," he says.

Dr. Mike D'Zmura of UC-Irvine, the lead scientist on the project, says his task is akin to finding the right strands on a plate full of pasta. "You need to pick out the relevant pieces of spaghetti," he says, "and sometimes they have to be torn apart and re-attached to others." But with ever-increasing computing power the task can be done in real time, he says. Users also will have to be trained to think loudly. "How do we get a person to think something to themselves in a way that leaves a very strong signal in EEGs that we can read off against the background noise?" D'Zmura asks. Finally, because every person's EEG is different, persons using "thought helmets" will have to be trained so that computers intercepting their unspoken commands recognize each user's unique mental pattern.

Both scientists pre-emptively deny expected charges that they're literally messing with soldiers' minds. "A lot of people interpret wires coming out of the head as some sort of mind reading," D'Zmura sighs. "But there's no way you can get there from here," Schmeisser insists. "Not only do you have to be willing, but since your brain is unique, you have to train the system to read your mind — so it's impossible to do it against someone's will and without their active and sustained cooperation."

And don't overlook potential civilian benefits. "How often have you been annoyed by people screaming into their cell phones?" Schmeisser asks. "What if instead of their Bluetooth earpiece it was a Bluetooth headpiece and their mouth is shut and there's blessed silence all around you?" Sounds like one of those rare slices of the U.S. military budget even pacifists might support.

[tracker]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1841108,00.html


:eek:



i am familiar to the mind control games they play , :cool:

and some of the strange things that can be done whilst people serve in the army .:eek:


it been going on for years.:cool:

good thread though , its about time subjects like this get a real good look at .

thankyou ,:D

[deca]

i am familiar to the mind control games they play

Are you a mind control & electronic harassment victim like me?

thought not

so what mind control games are you familiar with then?

[tracker]

Are you a mind control & electronic harassment victim like me?

thought not

so what mind control games are you familiar with then?

thought not hay ? before youve even taken the time to talk to me , get to know me ,
and have asked a question and answered it for me

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????:eek:

ok then , why dont you give us all you know .

i am listening with an open mind .

tell me , mr been there and done that ,

tell us about how

you are the only targeted person in the world then , its part of the thread issue afte all .

im listening .

[jojo]

Are you a mind control & electronic harassment victim like me?

thought not

so what mind control games are you familiar with then?
deca, i think he was saying it was a good thread and came across as on your side.
are you ok?

[deca]

Yeap I am ok.


I am not the only victim dude in the world, I am not the only victim on this forum ok.
I work with many victims around the world, to try and expose Mind control and electronic harasment.

mind control electronic harrasment
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617

thought not hay ? before youve even taken the time to talk to me , get to know me ,
and have asked a question and answered it for me

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????

ok then , why dont you give us all you know .

i am listening with an open mind .

tell me , mr been there and done that ,

tell us about how

you are the only targeted person in the world then , its part of the thread issue afte all .

im listening .


Look don`t take things personal

I am not having a ago at you personaly,but just to put the searious edge on things, to try and get people to realise that theres real people thats suffering ok and to make them aware and hopefully
help expose and stop this ok.

[tracker]

Yeap I am ok.


I am not the only victim dude in the world, I am not the only victim on this forum ok.
I work with many victims around the world, to try and expose Mind control and electronic harasment.

thank you jojo , you are correct .
unfortunatly deca is so concerned on fighting at the moment deca cant see that i was agreeing with them and trying to show them that they have hit a good issue here because , many have this mind control and targeting from military , cia , mi5 , governments and gang stalking groups .


like i said

thank you deca , its about time people raised this issue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !:o

[tracker]

thank you jojo , you are correct .
unfortunatly deca is so concerned on fighting at the moment deca cant see that i was agreeing with them and trying to show them that they have hit a good issue here because , many have this mind control and targeting from military , cia , mi5 , governments and gang stalking groups .


like i said

thank you deca , its about time people raised this issue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !:o

yve now re-edited your post to make the one above seem bad .

dont go talking about mind games here when yo are saying one thing , waitin for a repply then changing what you said .

at the bottom of your post it says edited .

i will gladly still join you if you dont make mistakes like that again .


i do know thegames military play and how lives are manipulated around "T,I,s".:cool:

[tracker]

ok i will take the 1st step .

"T,I,s" means
targeted individuals.

its a term used for those who experience eletronic harrasment or government organised gang stalking .

my next post will give some info on how to spot "possible" cases .

[deca]

ok what ever, how fast do you think I can type, plus I had to go to my mind control thread and copy the link and then edit this thread to paste it in plus answer a few personal messages one from you? plus post on the another thread, I have said my bit and will not be drag in.

[tracker]

ok i will take the 1st step .

"T,I,s" means
targeted individuals.

its a term used for those who experience eletronic harrasment or government organised gang stalking .

my next post will give some info on how to spot "possible" cases .

at 1st , may dont realise that they have been targeted .

theyare not to blame as they trust the system and those in power , but thats not to say im talking about mi5 or cia or even top government officials .

it couldbe the local councils , tax offices , or other various departments .



likei said .
at 1st its not always obvious to the "T,I" that they have been targeted .

common factors that may arrise in their life , is the "coincidence" factor .

commonly linked to electronic harrasment , IE monitoring devices or hidden cammeras , a person who has been targeted may find , that

one day they talk to a freind about a certain issue .
the next day , whilst walking into a shop , te individual could experience a complete stranger , who then brings up the subject in almost the exact same way , as waspreviously done by the individual behind closed doors .

this is just one small tactic .
this is done so that the "T,I" is made awear that something isnt quite right .
at 1st this seems as a coincidence , but later on , these coincedenes happen time and time again , in more detail .
this is a tactic to make them appear crasy , but to the strangers around them , nothing seems out of the ordinary , thus

the individual starts to feel or could feel paranoid.

like i said , this is only one small tactic , and is played out over a long time , so that it is obvious to the "T,I" but to no one else .

i will make another post on this subject quite soon .

[tracker]

one such symptom of a life of a "T,I" being targeted is what i wall the "IN OUT" tactic.

this is my own term that i have made my self for reasons i refuse to submit .

the "IN OUT" tactic happens like this .

imagine MR Smith , hes just got a pay rise .
All of the sudden , out of nowhere , comes
an urgent tax bill for the sum of £3000.
he is told to pay within 2 weeks .
he phones up the tax office and protests and insist he has all his receipts and can prove he has payed and wishes to make an appeal .
whilst on the phone he is told , that he can appeal but that takes 4 weeks .

Mr smith tells them that he was told to pay in 2 weeks other wise the bailiffs come round to take his stuff .
the tax clerk ( who probably doesn't even know him , or whats happening ) says ,
"OK MR Smith , we see your point and we will review this issue , however we recommend you still pay small sums of money , would you like to make an offer ?"

MR Smith , protests but sees that he is fighting a loosing battle , so agrees with small payment plan while the case is being reviewed .

however ???????????
this is happening in december just before Christmas .

the Christmas period has come and gone , an when the end of the january and feburary sales finish , MR Smith then finds that the tax office repays his money back with no apology .

to which now , his rent has suddenly gone up and he owes some money from somewhere he hasn't seen before .




these tactics are played upon "T,I"s at the same time as the "coincidence" tactics are played , this can giv ean extra ooomph power to the affect of breackin down MR Smith.

[tracker]

another sign that the "T,I" can see is an increase to services around the area and an increase of persons wishing to ave access to the home .

these can come in the forms of

gas meter readers
electric meter readers
water companies
double glazing sails
even jahovah witnesses

are just some of the "increased" traffic in personell that have an end adgender of a quick peeky boo in the "T,I"s property .

im not talking about eery day life here , im talking about a sudden increase , just after premotion , or after a real issue could be debated on a forum .

a way to spot it is to remember when the last time tese people came to your area .
for instance a "T,I" would know something is wrong when - fo instance , another gas meter reading person comes round , despite thefact their meter was read less than 3 months previous .
or when an inspecto comes in , after the last inspection shows it was clear , yet the next guy says something like

"well i dontknow mate , must have lost the paper work"

or

"well you know these office boys , cant get nothing right".

this is no joke , this happens to "T,I"s , and the "sudden increase" always happens in and around the "IN OUT" tactic coupled with the "coincidence" tactic , yet another ooomph to their sickery .

[tracker]

another sign that the "T,I" can see is an increase to services around the area and an increase of persons wishing to ave access to the home .

these can come in the forms of

gas meter readers
electric meter readers
water companies
double glazing sails
even jahovah witnesses

are just some of the "increased" traffic in personell that have an end adgender of a quick peeky boo in the "T,I"s property .

im not talking about eery day life here , im talking about a sudden increase , just after premotion , or after a real issue could be debated on a forum .

a way to spot it is to remember when the last time tese people came to your area .
for instance a "T,I" would know something is wrong when - fo instance , another gas meter reading person comes round , despite thefact their meter was read less than 3 months previous .
or when an inspecto comes in , after the last inspection shows it was clear , yet the next guy says something like

"well i dontknow mate , must have lost the paper work"

or

"well you know these office boys , cant get nothing right".

this is no joke , this happens to "T,I"s , and the "sudden increase" always happens in and around the "IN OUT" tactic coupled with the "coincidence" tactic , yet another ooomph to their sickery .

including the "increased personell" traffic will be an increase of strangers walking past the house , smetimes looking directly at their windows , or just , so happening , to want to walk up the ally next to their house , to go a long way round , just to go the other way .

little things like this and im not talking about nowand again , its usually when the "increased personell" tactic is enforced .

these patterns of behaviour again only appear to the "T,I" during these times only .
not last year and this year , but during those times .

[tracker]

including the "increased personell" traffic will be an increase of strangers walking past the house , smetimes looking directly at their windows , or just , so happening , to want to walk up the ally next to their house , to go a long way round , just to go the other way .

little things like this and im not talking about nowand again , its usually when the "increased personell" tactic is enforced .

these patterns of behaviour again only appear to the "T,I" during these times only .
not last year and this year , but during those times .

also ?
one thing i missed out on the post above .
an increase of road traffc .
like , a car pulling up just down the road , they stay there , then go .

later on during the week , you are on your way to work and see that car in a laybye .

ths is the tagging tactic often used by "P,I"s , police observations or secret black ops .

the cars are not usually normal cars , although they can be , usually its a car that is fantasticly smart and expensive , thus again , only the "T,I" will know that they haveseen it down their road before just doing nothing .
to an outside observer , its all nothingto worry about but to the "T,I" , they know better .

ive made enough posts for now , time t give some one else a chance .

[tracker]

now to bring this back to electronic harrasment , as i said , when a "T,I" has a converstation behind closd doors , by strange coincidence the subject could be bought up in a local shop justas the indiviual walks in .

this type of tactic can only be achieved if the indivuals home has a monitoring device in it .

it can be done by sonic gun from a distance , and the usual way to spot it , is to see an increase of yourown converstation subjects bought up again around you .

the problem is tht the pepl who bring it up as a subject , may not actually intentionally know why they hve been ordered to bring it up by a higher figure head.
the higher figure head is the one that may have highered a few people to act as covert servailance ops , to watch the "T,I" .

but those who have been highered for this operation have been lied to by the figure head for them to enlist .
this eans that those concerned actually think they are doing it for the good of society , as they may have been told that the individual could be a terrorist , or a fraudster .
to the team highered for the intent , all they know is

that they do it for good reasons
whilst the "T,I" gets slowly freakd out.

these are cunning smart plans and are hard to stop if these individuals have no idea who to contact about it .

[frankanne]

Tracker, that is fascinating. Have you got any other tactics that they use?

I remember reading about 'gang stalking' or something like that a few years back. There was a website about it, and the poor people were going mad with it all. Like you say, a car parked down the road, a cyclist going up and down the road, stopping to chat to the person sitting in the car, then both of them looking at the 'target'. There were photos that the 'target' took and put them on the website to show people that he wasn't mad, he was being stalked. Or in a busy shopping high street for instance, and then being bumped into and sort of surrounded by these strangers. Yet to onlookers, there wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary, but the target knows that it's deliberate. That sort of thing.

Do you know WHY some people are targetted?

Is there a pattern to any of this?

So many questions, but you seem to know quite a bit about all this. Thanks Tracker.

[tracker]

Tracker, that is fascinating. Have you got any other tactics that they use?

I remember reading about 'gang stalking' or something like that a few years back. There was a website about it, and the poor people were going mad with it all. Like you say, a car parked down the road, a cyclist going up and down the road, stopping to chat to the person sitting in the car, then both of them looking at the 'target'. There were photos that the 'target' took and put them on the website to show people that he wasn't mad, he was being stalked. Or in a busy shopping high street for instance, and then being bumped into and sort of surrounded by these strangers. Yet to onlookers, there wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary, but the target knows that it's deliberate. That sort of thing.

Do you know WHY some people are targetted?

Is there a pattern to any of this?

So many questions, but you seem to know quite a bit about all this. Thanks Tracker.

experience !:(

and yes , soon i will give so much out this thread is going to grow into a -ucking bean stalk . ( no pun inteded ) lol.

[frankanne]

ooooohhh. Can't wait.

Were you the target, or the stalker?

[deca]

magic helmet on
magic helmet off

testing testing echo echo wounder what other audio effects you can do ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

"The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective. Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electronically control the brain. Someday armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain."
Dr José Delgado,
Director of Neuropsychiatry
Yale University Medical School Congressional Record,
No. 26, Vol. 118 February 24, 1974

who whats to be the borg or have no privacy?

Just thought I better says this to anybody in the militray that might be forced or fooled into using this.

They are some benifits of using this type of system, but at what cost to the end user!!!!

[deca]

Finally, because every person's EEG is different, persons using "thought helmets" will have to be trained so that computers intercepting their unspoken commands recognize each user's unique mental pattern.



Brainwashing and acepting this type of system and learning to trust and obey there commands!!!!

[tracker]

to answer your questions frankanne.

1stly
Why are folks electronically harassed or gang stalked ?

a few reasons . So be patient .

1) To find out if new operatives are up to the job , this means unfortunately , that a member can be picked even if they have done nothing wrong , its an experiment .

2) The individual has been targeted because a slow subliminal program of "seek and destroy" a certain other individual is being enforced . This is a subtle mind control tactic that slowly brings into affect , a slow process of subject , that link other subjects , that then links to one person .
In affect the "T,I" is slowly being mind programmed as an assassin .
Through many many years of being electronically harassed or gang stalked , the person is slowly driven to madness , however !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
these "T,I"s are usually the acclaimed "miss fits" or "drop outs" of society , that way , in the eventual outcome , a Dr's diagnosis of schizophrenia or clinical madness covers up the "T,I"s experiences as delusions and takes away the phocus from the experiences to the "T.I"s mentality instead .

3) The "T,I" is close to something very important .
I may even cover this one in more detail later , however , getting back on track, these "T,I"s may have said something important or found something of grave matters and has accidentally told a person who may have connections else where . This doesn't mean that the person they told has totally betrayed them with an intent , more over it could have been an accidental slip up , or just a comment that as made by the person they told near some one who does think its important . From there the person they told are politely and covertly through conversation asked questions as to where and when they heard the issue , this brings back the whole idea of being laid back to the "T,I" .
Thus, an unintentional process of _ being a loud mouth , gets them in trouble for a reason that was not sinister in the 1st place but turns out nasty in the long run through no fault of their own or thir freinds .

4) too much prodding big brother this speaks for it self .

5) a mind control experiment has back fired and a slow process of targeting take place to crush the individuals character integrity .

6)The individual has stuck out like a sour thumb and does not comply to the systems "hold you down" rules and is making a big change in their life . The big bros do not like this as , if one person can do it , so can the rest , so they do the slow process thing hence it can be done in and aroun a premotion.

7) The "T,I" is not liked by some one up top in position of councils , tax offices etc . ( maybe they made the tax mans daughter pregnant , lol but not funny )

these are just a few reasons behind electronic harassment and gang stalking programs .






Now ? for your other question .
is there a pattern to it all ?

yes , hopefully i have already answered that one .

And yes , since i have had experience in this , and never knew what it was ,
i eventually did come across the gang stalking sites my self .
and i have found one problem within gang stalking that none have mentioned so far .

Sometimes , during the process , people blabb off news like hot gossip .
So word will naturally get around the area .

This means , that some people could be looking at you strangely , or just making a passing comment because of rumors , this too can be widely mistaken as harassment or stalking .

I know this area very well indeed , and although i have seen some cases that are very true and so obvious , i have to admit that , like all subjects , there are also a lot of fake videos on this matter .
I'm not dissing folks , im just saying , that my statement above about gossip , has not been considered with many who think they are being gang stalked , however , lies and gossip does its own damage and is very similar in the way that it can come across which is why the topic of electronic harassment and gang stalking and mind control must be very carefully considered . This post is too long for that right now so i will keep it on the issue , ie your questions .

hope this has helped you .

[tracker]

sorry deca , im trying to get there but unless i show how many types of mind control there is and how it can relate to this thread , it can seem so far fetched to new visitors that they may ignore this issue .

im doing my best deca , i will be back soon with more .
the next post


finally , can highlight after all this
electronic harrasment and how to spot it and what to do .
with out paying thousands of pounds on too may gadgets .

wont be long deca , it takes alot of time to type out .:D

re-edited from here !
the problem lays in seperating the rumors from the real harrassers .
thats a tough one !

which is the last piece about gang stalking and harrasment on this issue before i get into electronic stuff

some gang stalking situations can actually arise from pure rumors , where , a rumor starts , and then gets all out of hand .
and the situation can go on for years .
this has happened to many people .

[tracker]

sorry , im eating my tea .

in about an hour i will highlight how to spot and stop electronic harrasment and the forms it can come in .
there could be more info on tis but i tak from my own knowledge , so please do research your selves too .:D

[frankanne]

Tracker. Thank you very much.

How evil this all is!

And when you consider that councils are now recruiting children to spy and check on their neighbours and grass them up if they don't recycle, well, the mind boggles.

[Ian2day]

I've been a TI for most of my life. It's not a nice thing to experience at all. They specifically place targeted individuals into the same properties to live. There might be a gap between a TI and another TI living in the same place. Those who do the targeting have things which they like using about certain places. The access to it. The road layout or isolation of the place etc. Ability to control the food the victim consumes.

I don't think that the junior people of any of these ops knows the real reason the target is being attacked. They are sold a lie to get them to do what tptb want them to do. I recognise loads of the signs of being a TI which have been posted about on this thread. I'm not saying that every single person in an organisation is aware of what is happening. Just enough in key positions to get done, what they need to be done to attack their victims.

[steevo]

From 1964 Outer Limits :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxhqjC2eSmY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxhqjC2eSmY

[tracker]

From 1964 Outer Limits :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxhqjC2eSmY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxhqjC2eSmY


come on deca ,

you made the thread , gve us some info an some experience , we need all we can get on this thread .

[Ian2day]

The gangstalking of TI's is also continued on internet forums.

[tracker]

The gangstalking of TI's is also continued on internet forums.


i know , but there isnt much info here on it ,
which is why i think deca brought it up.

[deca]

I don`t tend to talk about all the harrassment,intimidation,discrediting and distraction techniques as it tends to move the attention away from the technology and the real perpotraitors and also makes the targeted victim testomony sound even more unbelivable parinoid and points the finger towards local groups/people.


I am in the process of making an website were I am going to be more detailed discription of the technology and the effects,psychology,techniques and AI scripts ect.....
In great detail for 2 reason


A) Thats what these bastards get for testing on unwitting humans who are not covered by the Official Secrets Act .

B) So when simalar technology is admited then people can see just how it compares to my experience.

[tracker]

I don`t tend to talk about all the harrassment,intimidation,discrediting and distraction techniques as it tends to move the attention away from the technology and the real perpotraitors and also makes the targeted victim testomony sound even more unbelivable parinoid and points the finger towards local groups/people.


I am in the process of making an website were I am going to be more detailed discription of the technology and the effects,psychology,techniques and AI scripts ect.....
In great detail for 2 reason


A) Thats what these bastards get for testing on unwitting humans who are not covered by the Official Secrets Act .

B) So when simalar technology is admited then people can see just how it compares to my experience.



the real reason why i have mentioned "T,I" , mind control and gang stalking deca , is that many of these subjects all relate to the issue , and unless people know how it is done and what to look for , they wouldnt even have clue on how it relates to modern technology and mind control .

it is imperative as to how the begining of all this comes about , howit relates , and what to look for , especially in your thread subject .

i am now slowly moving onto the electronic mind control uses

[tracker]

the real reason why i have mentioned "T,I" , mind control and gang stalking deca , is that many of these subjects all relate to the issue , and unless people know how it is done and what to look for , they wouldnt even have clue on how it relates to modern technology and mind control .

it is imperative as to how the begining of all this comes about , howit relates , and what to look for , especially in your thread subject .

i am now slowly moving onto the electronic mind control uses


other members are also seeing strange activities in their areas now .

this all relates to security and army mind control in the long run .

[tracker]

other members are also seeing strange activities in their areas now .

this all relates to security and army mind control in the long run .

many people are interested in this thread deca .

many !

[armoured_amazon]

Thanks, Tracker; I've pmed you. :)

[tracker]

many people are interested in this thread deca .

many !

another erlation to mind control operations and those who do this stuff , is very related to another thread called

rules of disinformation .


these tactics are also known as


gas lihting in the gang stalking departments,


i call it


fire starting and always have done because of the way that good practicers of gang stalking adopt the same ruls as dis info artists . the traits are a common tactic through out the security

mind control

section of rules of engagement .

sorry for copying and pasting but its a real must see and definatly relates to this subject on controling
other peoples minds around individuals who are being targeted under te mind control field .

they are as followed .




http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums...pic.php?t=1222



2. Become incredulous and indignant - (How dare you question Rik's parents, etc.)

3. Create rumour mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumours and wild accusations

5. Side-track opponents with name calling and ridicule. (We've been called all sorts - vultures, vampires, nutters, etc. etc.)

6. Hit and Run - (a poster will pop up out of the blue, then disappear)ie they make a comment but then refuse to say why they made it and insinuate to others that it should be obvious why

8. Invoke authority ‘one who knows’ - (Rik's 'friends' 'I knew him in REAL LIFE'.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions i.e. (‘yes I agree there are some unanswered questions, but this has been blown out of all proportion’ type thing.)

18. Emotionalise, Antagonise, and Goad Opponents.

24. Silence critics. tell themto shut up or grow up in attempt to ridicule or under dog the aponant .

Traits of the dis-info agent

or spotting a investigator or gang stalking agent .

these traits are so common it is consistant through out the feild in all levels .



1) They never actually discuss issues head on

4) They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams and always decharactorise the indiviual as a lesser being .

5) Their disdain for "conspiracy theorists" or state that you are not complying to be a decent person , ie moralistic thus insinuating you are bad ..

6) An odd kind of "artificial" emotionalism and an unusually thick skin


i have slightly altered this info to show how they are very much the same .
although disinfo agents have the same traits as a gang stalker recruting agent .

also thos involved in gng stalking also have the same triats even if they are a beginner

[lizzy]

I don`t tend to talk about all the harrassment,intimidation,discrediting and distraction techniques as it tends to move the attention away from the technology and the real perpotraitors and also makes the targeted victim testomony sound even more unbelivable parinoid and points the finger towards local groups/people.


I am in the process of making an website were I am going to be more detailed discription of the technology and the effects,psychology,techniques and AI scripts ect.....
In great detail for 2 reason


A) Thats what these bastards get for testing on unwitting humans who are not covered by the Official Secrets Act .

B) So when simalar technology is admited then people can see just how it compares to my experience.


hi deca............goodluck with the website;)

and wanted you know, I read you stuff regularly........what you cover is so important..becoming more so everyday.

[lizzy]

other members are also seeing strange activities in their areas now .

this all relates to security and army mind control in the long run .

yes I agree........and thankyou for the 'spot the dis-info.'........;)

..took me a while to catch on when I first arrived here but I can recognize one or two these days.:D

[tracker]

yes I agree........and thankyou for the 'spot the dis-info.'........;)

..took me a while to catch on when I first arrived here but I can recognize one or two these days.:D


the main utube sites to get is by typing in

gang stalking utube

MK ultra utube gang stalking

MK ultra mind control

elcetronic harrasment utube

etc .

look out , some sites are actually controlled by the very enmay them selves .

but , alot of them do have some real good info.

also

see army mind control sites , they are all related to each other under a national security issue .

[deca]

Thanks

The Army's initial goal is to capture those brain waves with incredibly sophisticated software that then translates the waves into audible radio messages for other troops in the field. "It'd be radio without a microphone, " says Dr. Elmar Schmeisser

Now I think it would be a "bit" more than some covert speech radio, They basicly have that

Bone conduction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_conduction

http://www.amalgamate2000.com/sales/product5.htm
How does bone conduction work?
Put your fingers in you ears and block them. Go on, I'm not joking. You now can hear next to nothing of the sounds around you ! While you have your fingers in your ears, talk, sing or say something, you can hear yourself! The sound of you speech is coming through your skull bones tissues and into your ear!
The bone conduction principle uses a very sensitive microphone/earphone to detect that sound that travels through your head when you speak. The sound is picked up from within the ear canal.
This is how the system enables you to hold a conversation with someone in a very noisy environment i.e. a Sawmill, factory ,Steel mill or even when using a small petrol two-stroke chainsaw! . When you talk, the earphone /microphone picks up the speech travelling through your head into your ear canal. It cannot hear the external sound because of the good quality ear defenders. The system will only work if you wear good quality ear defenders to exclude all outside noise while the earphone is firmly in the users ear canal or have a precise fitting and sealing custom moulded earpiece made by an audiologist at your nearest hearing clinic


or they could use
http://www.neurophone.com/home.htm


They could also use subvocals
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2004/subvocal/subvocal.html
NASA scientists have begun to computerize human, silent reading using nerve signals in the throat that control speech. In preliminary experiments, NASA scientists found that small, button-sized sensors, stuck under the chin and on either side of the ‘Adam’s apple,’ could gather nerve signals, send them to a processor and then to a computer program that translates them into words.

"What is analyzed is silent, or sub-auditory, speech, such as when a person silently reads or talks to himself," said Chuck Jorgensen (pictured), a scientist whose team is developing silent, subvocal speech recognition at NASA Ames Research Center in California’s Silicon Valley.



Also you should check out Dr persingers "god helemet"

He can induce many different mental states, can even produce a "opium state"

[deca]

ELF Mind Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtEvdfLihto

[armoured_amazon]

I find this interesting. (I'm just going to copy-paste a portion of a message I sent to someone to explain it).

A couple of weeks after I moved in to the property I was idling out of the window when I suddenly realised there was a camera in the street light opposite. Ordinarily a street camera will be placed under the light or on a separate post altogether but this was actually inside the light casing (yes I have good eyesight! ). I stared it out for a while and next time I had a family member over I showed it to them. They declared that it looked like a camera but I was probably just being paranoid (ah, that glorious mantra). A couple of weeks after that and me pointing at it a lot with various people a sign appeared on the post below with "CCTV" written on it in large letters...obviously to make it appear legit. I must go across and read the sign properly.

Now while Big Brother has accelerated in built up areas and city centres, there is no reason whatsoever for this camera. It would not be able to get a panoramic view of the street, where it is mounted. For example, imagine the letter 'T'. It is in the street represented by the upright bar in the T and I am slightly to the right of centre of the horizontal bar. The camera, being inside the light would not be able to swivel and monitor behind the lamppost and it can only see 3 or 4 houses (mine included), due to its location. And it is at a 45 degree angle to its base to face my house. (I had a good scrutinise yesterday!)

My sister thinks perhaps a politician is a neighbour or something but I'm not convinced. Why go to the trouble of erecting cctv that can only monitor 3 or 4 houses at most, when put in a different position, merely a couple of metres, it could monitor several vistas at once?

Thoughts? Maybe I am just paranoid, maybe not....There are other suspected monitoring activities going on atm but I shall leave them for another time.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff239/queentantrum/cam.png

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff239/queentantrum/camblk.png

[deca]

It might by a mobile phone mast (Microcell) disqised as a cctv pole, don`t laugh they make them look like flag and lamp post!!!!
http://www.hks.demon.co.uk/jpegs/TMob%20Telegraph%20type%20(1).jpg

[armoured_amazon]

The little black square is not in any of the other lamps on the street; it's definitely a camera. Whether it's there for me or someone else, I do not know. Hopefully, it's a neighbour :D

[deca]

mind control clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJVN0R6BjtM

[blondina1]

good thread.

[frankanne]

[QUOTE=armoured_amazon;521813]I find this interesting. (I'm just going to copy-paste a portion of a message I sent to someone to explain it).

A couple of weeks after I moved in to the property I was idling out of the window when I suddenly realised there was a camera in the street light opposite. Ordinarily a street camera will be placed under the light or on a separate post altogether but this was actually inside the light casing (yes I have good eyesight! ). I stared it out for a while and next time I had a family member over I showed it to them. They declared that it looked like a camera but I was probably just being paranoid (ah, that glorious mantra). A couple of weeks after that and me pointing at it a lot with various people a sign appeared on the post below with "CCTV" written on it in large letters...obviously to make it appear legit. I must go across and read the sign properly.

Now while Big Brother has accelerated in built up areas and city centres, there is no reason whatsoever for this camera. It would not be able to get a panoramic view of the street, where it is mounted. For example, imagine the letter 'T'. It is in the street represented by the upright bar in the T and I am slightly to the right of centre of the horizontal bar. The camera, being inside the light would not be able to swivel and monitor behind the lamppost and it can only see 3 or 4 houses (mine included), due to its location. And it is at a 45 degree angle to its base to face my house. (I had a good scrutinise yesterday!)

My sister thinks perhaps a politician is a neighbour or something but I'm not convinced. Why go to the trouble of erecting cctv that can only monitor 3 or 4 houses at most, when put in a different position, merely a couple of metres, it could monitor several vistas at once?

Thoughts? Maybe I am just paranoid, maybe not....There are other suspected monitoring activities going on atm but I shall leave them for another time.

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that certainly sounds strange armoured. I'm wondering if you've ever been a campaigner of some kind, animal rights or even union rep. I know it sounds daft, but I do believe that some people are flagged up as possible threats to the NWO?

About 14 years ago I was a member of Education Otherwise. I volunteered for the helpline - my own private phone - and would get phone calls continuously from people wanting to know the law of home education, bullying problems of their children at school, loads of calls, all the time from worried parents. I also used to get loads of letters from all these enquirers and also parcels of literature, membership forms to send out. Anyway to cut a long story short, I started noticing my mail being opened. At first it was like a ripped parcel with a sticker from Royal Mail, saying 'damaged in transit' or some such thing. After a while this became so regular it was obvious that my mail was being opened, and I was sure that my phone was being tapped.

so what could seem like an innocent membership, i.e. home education, caring for animals, etc. is seen by these phsychotic lunatics who are running the planet as some kind of threat. Alex Jones pointed out the Patriot Bill which listed 'possible terrorists' or possible threats to the NWO and Christians are mentioned, so are home educators.

I don't think it is us who are paranoid - I think it is the lunatics who are running the asylum (world) who are the paranoid ones. lol.

Anyway, armoured, how about if you were to ask your council outright, why they have put a CCTV right outside your house. Blooming cheek!!!

Sometimes head on queries is the best way.

[armoured_amazon]

that certainly sounds strange armoured. I'm wondering if you've ever been a campaigner of some kind, animal rights or even union rep. I know it sounds daft, but I do believe that some people are flagged up as possible threats to the NWO?

About 14 years ago I was a member of Education Otherwise. I volunteered for the helpline - my own private phone - and would get phone calls continuously from people wanting to know the law of home education, bullying problems of their children at school, loads of calls, all the time from worried parents. I also used to get loads of letters from all these enquirers and also parcels of literature, membership forms to send out. Anyway to cut a long story short, I started noticing my mail being opened. At first it was like a ripped parcel with a sticker from Royal Mail, saying 'damaged in transit' or some such thing. After a while this became so regular it was obvious that my mail was being opened, and I was sure that my phone was being tapped.

so what could seem like an innocent membership, i.e. home education, caring for animals, etc. is seen by these phsychotic lunatics who are running the planet as some kind of threat. Alex Jones pointed out the Patriot Bill which listed 'possible terrorists' or possible threats to the NWO and Christians are mentioned, so are home educators.

I don't think it is us who are paranoid - I think it is the lunatics who are running the asylum (world) who are the paranoid ones. lol.

Anyway, armoured, how about if you were to ask your council outright, why they have put a CCTV right outside your house. Blooming cheek!!!

Sometimes head on queries is the best way.

Omigosh frankanne, my mail is ALWAYS tampered with. I just figured it's because I order a LOT of stuff from eBay (supplements and metal work tools...and mainly from the Far East and the United States). They're definitely blatantly opened and not just damaged, e.g. a metal hammering block I received - the pack was sliced open at the end (by customs, I imagine). The supplements and jewellery parts are usually more subtlely tampered with.

I've not been to any demos that I can recall but as I am an educator, I'm sure it's an annoyance for tptb to have someone who goes against the grain influencing young minds. I was thinking of going directly to the police/council and asking why the camera is there and requesting it be taken down. As it has direct access to my living room and front bedroom, I'd say there must be a law that forbids that; I just have to discover it, hehe. Especially as this is a very quiet, well-to-do area that has no noticeable crime hotspots and there are no other CCTV cameras in the vicinity.

I agree that I don't think it's us who are the paranoid ones :) I guess we should be bolstered that our way of life is right for us.

[frankanne]

Omigosh frankanne, my mail is ALWAYS tampered with. I just figured it's because I order a LOT of stuff from eBay (supplements and metal work tools...and mainly from the Far East and the United States). They're definitely blatantly opened and not just damaged, e.g. a metal hammering block I received - the pack was sliced open at the end (by customs, I imagine). The supplements and jewellery parts are usually more subtlely tampered with.

I've not been to any demos that I can recall but as I am an educator, I'm sure it's an annoyance for tptb to have someone who goes against the grain influencing young minds. I was thinking of going directly to the police/council and asking why the camera is there and requesting it be taken down. As it has direct access to my living room and front bedroom, I'd say there must be a law that forbids that; I just have to discover it, hehe. Especially as this is a very quiet, well-to-do area that has no noticeable crime hotspots and there are no other CCTV cameras in the vicinity.

I agree that I don't think it's us who are the paranoid ones :) I guess we should be bolstered that our way of life is right for us.

Yes, we should be bolstered, you're right.

I would imagine that if you are an educator and you are not going along with the NWO 'curriculuum', (spell), then you would be seen as a threat, especially if you teach people to think for themselves and question the powers that be.

Whatever it is that you are doing, be proud and confident that THEY don't like it. You're doing good by the sounds of it. And you should ask them to take down that camera. I'm sure it is illegal to point a camera at someone's living room and bedroom. How dare they! Maybe speak to your MP too. But there's no reason in the world that you should just put up with this invasion of privacy. Good luck Amoured. Let us know how you get on.

[armoured_amazon]

Yes, we should be bolstered, you're right.

I would imagine that if you are an educator and you are not going along with the NWO 'curriculuum', (spell), then you would be seen as a threat, especially if you teach people to think for themselves and question the powers that be.

Whatever it is that you are doing, be proud and confident that THEY don't like it. You're doing good by the sounds of it. And you should ask them to take down that camera. I'm sure it is illegal to point a camera at someone's living room and bedroom. How dare they! Maybe speak to your MP too. But there's no reason in the world that you should just put up with this invasion of privacy. Good luck Amoured. Let us know how you get on.

I will do. :)

[deca]

http://www.infowars.com/?p=4822
Local Surveillance to Plug Into Homeland Security Camera System
Local Surveillance to Plug Into Homeland Security Camera System

News Bureau
September 24, 2008

If you have ever been curious in regards to what appears as camera housing situated in public places, you may be amazed that a variety of them are part of the Homeland Security camera system network.

Not all of these cameras, and not in all cities and towns are part of it, yet an ever increasing number of cameras that are in existence in the majority of cities are joining forces with different government agencies in their ongoing fight against domestic terrorism.

There have been numerous cities that have installed cameras to maintain close surveillance on big public assemblies, for instance the White House as well as around various national memorials and monuments to help identify difficulties with crowds.

The capability to have these cameras networked together into a much bigger, national type of network is giving the Homeland Security Camera System the ability to grow through the use of extra cameras from communities all around the country.

For people who don’t comprehend that this is possible, think for a moment of the internet’s availability to access your personal computer from anyplace on the planet by simply signing onto a computer and then going to a website on the network.

Begin at your home network, if there is more than one computer that is connected to internet access by way of a hub, you have the capability of get access to anything on one computer from any other computer, if in fact you have the right authorization.




If for example you have cameras that are connected to a network at your office, then access the work computer from your house, you can then bring up images connected to your work computer from your house. This is a similar system that the Homeland Security Camera system utilizes to add additional cameras and resources onto their existing systems.

Surveillance System Rapidly Growing In Size

Because the infrastructure is already in place in many of the larger communities, it is actually a simply task for the Homeland Security camera computer to connect to the city camera computer and get access to the images of that computer.

Certainly, you have to have permission that is granted by the community for the Homeland Security camera system to take the images from the computer. Safeguards are also put in place to stop the homeland computer from getting any type of control over a communities camera system.

The majority of Homeland Security cameras that are being utilized are not just static types of cameras. There are numerous types that are equipped with accessibility through remote means so that they can pan, zoom and tilt to more effectively monitor people or events that are within viewing range to assist in fighting the possible threat of either domestic or global terrorism.

While there are people that are not comfortable with knowing that the local and federal government can hook into any community that they want with a camera system and snatch up images from anywhere, the majority of people realize the significance of having a constant vigil for the purpose of national security.

[tracker]

http://www.infowars.com/?p=4822
Local Surveillance to Plug Into Homeland Security Camera System

bump:cool:

[americana]

section of rules of engagement .

sorry for copying and pasting but its a real must see and definatly relates to this subject on controling
other peoples minds around individuals who are being targeted under te mind control field .

they are as followed .http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums...pic.php?t=1222

2. Become incredulous and indignant - (How dare you question Rik's parents, etc.)

3. Create rumour mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumours and wild accusations

5. Side-track opponents with name calling and ridicule. (We've been called all sorts - vultures, vampires, nutters, etc. etc.)

6. Hit and Run - (a poster will pop up out of the blue, then disappear)ie they make a comment but then refuse to say why they made it and insinuate to others that it should be obvious why

8. Invoke authority ‘one who knows’ - (Rik's 'friends' 'I knew him in REAL LIFE'.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions i.e. (‘yes I agree there are some unanswered questions, but this has been blown out of all proportion’ type thing.)

18. Emotionalise, Antagonise, and Goad Opponents.

24. Silence critics. tell themto shut up or grow up in attempt to ridicule or under dog the aponant .

Traits of the dis-info agent

or spotting a investigator or gang stalking agent .

these traits are so common it is consistant through out the feild in all levels .



1) They never actually discuss issues head on

4) They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams and always decharactorise the indiviual as a lesser being .

5) Their disdain for "conspiracy theorists" or state that you are not complying to be a decent person , ie moralistic thus insinuating you are bad ..

6) An odd kind of "artificial" emotionalism and an unusually thick skin


i have slightly altered this info to show how they are very much the same .
although disinfo agents have the same traits as a gang stalker recruting agent .

also thos involved in gng stalking also have the same triats even if they are a beginner

Brilliant. Great job relating it to the R. Clay issue. The link didn't work - - I would be interested in reading more about Gangstalking - - so a working link and any others that you TRUST would be much appreciated! :D

And thanks always to Deca who is always out there researching and letting us know about this very important info.

[tracker]

Brilliant. Great job relating it to the R. Clay issue. The link didn't work - - I would be interested in reading more about Gangstalking - - so a working link and any others that you TRUST would be much appreciated! :D

And thanks always to Deca who is always out there researching and letting us know about this very important info.

the link does work , its on this thread on a previous page back there somewhere .

it does work which is why i bumped this thread because its good .

you'll find gang stalking back there too .

if you can , sorry to say this

read the whole thread .
its got contact sites too .

thanks for that thank you too .
and yes
deca has made some outstanding threads too .:cool:

[Ian2day]

Have a look at thsi thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38820

I think that you will also find these cameras in many street lamps in certain council controlled areas. The cctv is there to protect people with specific alternative interests. Local councils are messed up in some really strange things...

[tracker]

bump:cool:

[tracker]

bump:cool:

many x service men are now talking about the issues here and on the gang stalking threads .:cool:

[kimball13]

:rolleyes:very old tech, did i say old well i ment ancient:cool:. What the tech shleps are finding out is that the original good old human effort can overide any tech sooner or later, i think its called faith,,,good thing a spiritual form of tech got a hold of me before the tech heads and there inhibitors and the induced cognitive disonance coupled with emotional and physical hardship with no reward other than knowing that what i do is right,,,i suppose sooner or later there has to be a ruler for the golden rule(pun definatly intended);)remember the man with one good eye is either crazy for seing or he is the one to explain reality to a sightless world(dam theres that Kalki stuff again):eek::cool:

trust me they were doing it to monkeys before i was born, all they did was put more leads on the helmet, just like if ya put racing stripes on a lemon.

[tracker]

:rolleyes:very old tech, did i say old well i ment ancient:cool:. What the tech shleps are finding out is that the original good old human effort can overide any tech sooner or later, i think its called faith,,,good thing a spiritual form of tech got a hold of me before the tech heads and there inhibitors and the induced cognitive disonance coupled with emotional and physical hardship with no reward other than knowing that what i do is right,,,i suppose sooner or later there has to be a ruler for the golden rule(pun definatly intended);)remember the man with one good eye is either crazy for seing or he is the one to explain reality to a sightless world(dam theres that Kalki stuff again):eek::cool:

trust me they were doing it to monkeys before i was born, all they did was put more leads on the helmet, just like if ya put racing stripes on a lemon.

oh im quite sure most of this is old tech .

so give us your experience .

im sure it will help

[3stepsahead]

Are you a mind control & electronic harassment victim like me?

thought not

so what mind control games are you familiar with then?

have you seen ichi the killer?

[annakarin]

The things discussed is mainly about physical actions.
If anyone has knowledge about energy frequency manipulation etc it might be useful to share that information.
Government remote viewers that can access your energy field etc.

[Ian2day]

The things discussed is mainly about physical actions.
If anyone has knowledge about energy frequency manipulation etc it might be useful to share that information.
Government remote viewers that can access your energy field etc.

I'm sure that I had been spiked. I had something with a red bulb shone at me one night. It may of just been a red bulb in a torch or it could of been some form of energy weapon. It was coming from the rear of a house. I saw it as I walked in an alleyway. It was just shining at me. I had only seen it the once.

That day I had a few conversations on the phone with people which were genuine. However the phrases they used would make you think they was implying something else was going on. At other times it felt as if they were mimicking telephone calls with family and friends using a soundboard of pre-recorded clips.

Couple this with the other harassment techniques which they had employed and to an outside observer my symptoms were of schizophrenia. However I was being manipulated to act in a certain way. I'm not sure if the red bulb was just a physical prop they were employing or if it was some form of energy weapon. In all honesty I believe that it was a psychological weapon combined with pharmaceutical drugs. Which was designed to make me mimic mental illness. Thereby discrediting any subsequent claims I make.

[lightgiver]

Psychological Operations (PSYOP, PSYOPS) are techniques used by military and police forces to influence a target audience's value systems, belief systems, emotions, motives, reasoning, and behaviour. Target audiences can be governments, organizations, groups, and individuals, and are used in order to induce confessions, or reinforce attitudes and behaviours favourable to the originator's objectives. These are sometimes combined with black operations or false flag tactics.

This concept has been used by military institutions throughout history, but it is only since the twentieth century that it has been accorded the organizational and professional status it enjoys now.

The word is commonly used by governments, such as the government of the United States, who do not wish to use the term propaganda or brainwashing to refer to their own work. The word propaganda has very negative connotations, and by calling it psychological operations instead, more sophisticated methods of psychological manipulation are accurately incorporated by the terminology. This euphemism for mind control is ironically an example of psychological operations -- i.e. using psychological techniques to persuade [manipulate] a large number of people to support something that they wouldn't normally support

http://www.bilderberg.org/roundtable/emhitler.html

[deca]

have you seen ichi the killer?

Nope, Why?

[deca]

The things discussed is mainly about physical actions.
If anyone has knowledge about energy frequency manipulation etc it might be useful to share that information.
Government remote viewers that can access your energy field etc.

Think most of this is technology based now EMF,ELF and microwaves ect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect
check out Bioeffects of Selected Non-Lethal Weaponry


A lot of the Brain entainment and mind manipulation is so they can control,infulence your mental state, seed false beliefs,memorys. Control your emotions,body and inflence your behaviour.

A lot of it is AI that reconises paterns and thoughts and then beams in speech,thoughts,emotions to amplyfi or put you off thinking.

[annakarin]

I have searched these many threads, and was wondering if there is any good resources
for removing implants, over-writing old programs, as far as effective techniques.

Regression Therapy, meditation, education about energy fields etc are of course helpful. So
is getting away from basically anything mainstream.
But for people from P.M or more focused vibration disturbance or abuse, I am wondering if anyone knows good information and sources such as support groups etc.

I know this is probably not the right topic to be in "News".
But I bet it would be news to many to be educated in metaphysics, quantum physics,
NLP, self-healing etc.

I have a feeling many are searching, but afraid to reach out.


Much Love, and Light

[annakarin]

Think most of this is technology based now EMF,ELF and microwaves ect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect
check out Bioeffects of Selected Non-Lethal Weaponry


A lot of the Brain entainment and mind manipulation is so they can control,infulence your mental state, seed false beliefs,memorys. Control your emotions,body and inflence your behaviour.

A lot of it is AI that reconises paterns and thoughts and then beams in speech,thoughts,emotions to amplyfi or put you off thinking.



Thank you. This is the type of information I am looking for.

[deca]

I think the ownly "implant" they used these days is the grey one you was born
with .....your own brain. They have been delopmenting ways to control,program and manipulate it eversince.

Think implants were droped in the 80`s when they found out better electronic means to control/influence the brain/mind.

Theres too many problems with implants, the pace of technology means any implant would be out of date every 6 months, The power problem, It would be easy detected/removed/disabled . People would find hacks and limitaions in it.

But if the technology is updated at there end then beamed out the indivual then that overcomes this.

They could not "program" the AI to cope with every situation
If you were just using it as an brain interface then you would have to send a signal to the chip then the chip would then decode it then send it to the brain, the chip would then decode the brain then send it to the remote location, why bother, Just broadcast stright to the brain , and devlope methods to decode the brain at distance!!!!!

[steevo]

Interesting thread. Thanks to all involved. It's pretty scary stuff so it's ESSENTIAL that you learn about and UNDERSTAND what fear is so that you can handle ANYTHING that is thrown at you.

Also we need to understand that paranoia is basically fear.

[tracker]

Interesting thread. Thanks to all involved. It's pretty scary stuff so it's ESSENTIAL that you learn about and UNDERSTAND what fear is so that you can handle ANYTHING that is thrown at you.

Also we need to understand that paranoia is basically fear.
true steevo , but concider this

if one are parranoid and dont tell others what you think , how does one then asatain as to whether some one is parranoid or not ?

so what i am saying is this .
one can only be concidered as parranoid when one tell others about ones thoughts .
if one keep them quiet , no one can call one parranoid .

also

just a thought
just because one might be parranoid , it doesnt mean one doesn't have enemies or are not being watched , its just that others may not see it .:cool:

[tracker]

I'm sure that I had been spiked. I had something with a red bulb shone at me one night. It may of just been a red bulb in a torch or it could of been some form of energy weapon. It was coming from the rear of a house. I saw it as I walked in an alleyway. It was just shining at me. I had only seen it the once.

That day I had a few conversations on the phone with people which were genuine. However the phrases they used would make you think they was implying something else was going on. At other times it felt as if they were mimicking telephone calls with family and friends using a soundboard of pre-recorded clips.

Couple this with the other harassment techniques which they had employed and to an outside observer my symptoms were of schizophrenia. However I was being manipulated to act in a certain way. I'm not sure if the red bulb was just a physical prop they were employing or if it was some form of energy weapon. In all honesty I believe that it was a psychological weapon combined with pharmaceutical drugs. Which was designed to make me mimic mental illness. Thereby discrediting any subsequent claims I make.

thats how it works .
also , the mimicking of phone calls and general conversation one might have in ones own home is used too .
when it happens one has to learn how not to react .:cool:

[olas]

That´s not important at all.
There is a long way till the brutality be important. Look at the day by day wishes, planted by former´s of opinion, TV, social desire and so on. That kill´s much more.
When someone is dead mind, or real dead, is not a danger to the establishment.
I believe that the real problem is to try solve this kind of problem using the big scale, ´cause the real diference is made day after day, by our conscient choices.
If i have to be a tomato for sauce, i gonna be a full bug´s habited one, organic.
I love bug´s. Anyonelse?

[steevo]

true steevo , but concider this

if one are parranoid and dont tell others what you think , how does one then asatain as to whether some one is parranoid or not ?

so what i am saying is this .
one can only be concidered as parranoid when one tell others about ones thoughts .
if one keep them quiet , no one can call one parranoid .

also

just a thought
just because one might be parranoid , it doesnt mean one doesn't have enemies or are not being watched , its just that others may not see it .:cool:

Good points Tracker.
Maybe I should have said that paranoia is a result of fear ? But yes the person who says that you are suffering from paranoia is only thinking subjectively, possibily. But we all possibily do get paranoid at times because of the fear of ACTUALLY being watched and this can create more fear so that you imagine that perfectly innocent people are watching you (IMO).

I sometimes say to myself "am i being paranoid ?" and I might reply to myself "maybe". Now I really do sound like a paranoid scizophrenic :D

[tracker]

That´s not important at all.
There is a long way till the brutality be important. Look at the day by day wishes, planted by former´s of opinion, TV, social desire and so on. That kill´s much more.
When someone is dead mind, or real dead, is not a danger to the establishment.
I believe that the real problem is to try solve this kind of problem using the big scale, ´cause the real diference is made day after day, by our conscient choices.
If i have to be a tomato for sauce, i gonna be a full bug´s habited one, organic.
I love bug´s. Anyonelse?


we have threads on this issue !it would be a good idea you go there with your "so what" comments to me and the like minded who are attempting to help others .
infact "olas so what?" the likes of me , deca , and others make threads like this because people who go through this crap are usually people who are freeing them self to be an example to the rst around them , thus showing others how to free them self from slavery and the NWO lie that day by day are bombarded as myth , when indeed its real .

we know about the brutality of millions according to those who run the show , and we take part in those threads and inform others .

so this "so what" attitude about this thread and others on it isnt doing you any good . what are you saying ?
so what ? oh i see lets forget how this mind control can affect every body lets listen to you , yeah ? ok every one who has been mind controlled and can be mind controlled lets fkem off coz its not important to you ah ?

yeah ok goofy , now over to the news room with donald duck .:rolleyes:

you dont like the thread topic , find another !:cool:

[tracker]

Good points Tracker.
Maybe I should have said that paranoia is a result of fear ? But yes the person who says that you are suffering from paranoia is only thinking subjectively, possibily. But we all possibily do get paranoid at times because of the fear of ACTUALLY being watched and this can create more fear so that you imagine that perfectly innocent people are watching you (IMO).

I sometimes say to myself "am i being paranoid ?" and I might reply to myself "maybe". Now I really do sound like a paranoid scizophrenic :D

yeah well steevo i thought that about my self once but am in two minds about it now .:D

[steevo]

yeah well steevo i thought that about my self once but am in two minds about it now .:D

lol :D hee hee

[tracker]

lol :D hee hee


so steevo , this thread , quite reveiling dont you think ?

this happens to more people than we can even fathem or dare to admit .:cool:

[steevo]

so steevo , this thread , quite reveiling dont you think ?

this happens to more people than we can even fathem or dare to admit .:cool:

I'm pretty sure that they probably do use tactics like you mentioned. What we have to do is make sure that when we learn of these tactics, that we dont BECOME paranoid or let fear take over our lives or else the info becomes detrimental. That's why I always go on about understanding fear.

[godspeed]

great info here guys...if nothing else its gave me a better insight into how these things can grind one down in everyday life and i do wonder if its not more frequent now a day the way things are going with bb paranoia with well just about everybody on the planet just now...

[olas]

we have threads on this issue !it would be a good idea you go there with your "so what" comments to me and the like minded who are attempting to help others .
infact "olas so what?" the likes of me , deca , and others make threads like this because people who go through this crap are usually people who are freeing them self to be an example to the rst around them , thus showing others how to free them self from slavery and the NWO lie that day by day are bombarded as myth , when indeed its real .

we know about the brutality of millions according to those who run the show , and we take part in those threads and inform others .

so this "so what" attitude about this thread and others on it isnt doing you any good . what are you saying ?
so what ? oh i see lets forget how this mind control can affect every body lets listen to you , yeah ? ok every one who has been mind controlled and can be mind controlled lets fkem off coz its not important to you ah ?

yeah ok goofy , now over to the news room with donald duck .:rolleyes:

you dont like the thread topic , find another !:cool:

I do like the thread, but is just another way to see.
The point exists, but should we grow it?
I mean, if you fight against something in another way you are feeding it.
The most effective way to control is exactly disguising something bad in good, and militar work is never sweet. And will never be.
May be i really was affected for years and years of TV, but even that still being something that i can, and probably you can, find ways to don´t worry about militar work. A dead brain or a dead body doesnt act.
The subliminar power is much smoother, almost not sensible.
And this is the real danger.
I´ve read in someone´s end of page "If you expend more time defending your point of view that developing it, you are already in late" or something.
Let it roll...

[kimball13]

oh im quite sure most of this is old tech .

so give us your experience .

im sure it will help
im a scout at time's so i have a comraderie likeing for tracker's so i will do my best to honor your request. I should say i come from a very strange family where this has happend to at least two generations, my co at time's were possibley my uncle or my dad its hard to remember which sein as they are twins, even harder since one is passed on, all i know is they murderd one. as well as i nead the practice telling my storei so that i may honor my father's request as well as uncle's to tell there strorie when it is time,(clue they are the badest mamjam's when it come's to both ends of either taking a few out or getting a few out which one ya want, they were the left hand i was the right, they might take your life or save your life i might heal the wounds or do all three ya see itsa complicated(wanted was a decent depiction of part of what they almost did, they murderd my uncle then tried to send me after my own Father, they made a big mistake, they thought my uncle was my dad and then after they relized im far more a threat than my dad:eek:heck when they burned files they goofed because they dont know exactly what was done to me or what im capable of, did i mention they Burned me in 93 then i went wondering around not knowing what i am exept a few dreams here and there then came the memorie flashes, yet the most dificult is the packets of knowledge that pop up to the surface.

so in a nut shell most of the tech in me is of an inhibitor type along with antena type of array(heck im like a sending unit, a scout, im point and rear guard of types),,,,,,,i have a stereo taxic type device in my neck then a small array along part of my spine, when i looked up there positioning i found the positioning to being placed on or around metabalism, adrenalyn, mostly bodly funtions doing with movement and nuritment......After my x-ray and such films kept coming up missing or delayed the hospital that had them deamed it safer that the films be in my possesion...I found this curriose as well as the nationality that had them for three mnth's so i looked at them myself for once, and wow what i found especialy when i blew up the one of my neck, the Army got me at least around puberty then again in around 87 under an alias...Maybe that is why i have knowledge that freaks me out, as well as that is also when the army took over there own intel from the cia, guese that pissed the spooks of woops, but hay they are civilians....so to the army type's they are leary of me because im a bit more than MI and to the cia im a pain in the neck as well as they are pissed because they have bin caught accessing my work as well as useing me unofficialy without my concent or the concent of the military, im a bit of an intel machine of sorts and have ben sent into the feild at a very young age.ever read comics, there is a dc comic about a hero called Damage read issue 7 for a more clearer depiction of what happend in 93,,,the school in it is a metaphor of type's and there is a reason why no children were in the school in my comic because i tried to save them, my job was just to get the primary and get out but when i relized my partner wasnt doing his job and was doing something else as in setting incinderarie device's of which intent was to kill all the people. Yet even after this info being put out about who was responsible and who was paying the price, this info was not properly disseminated and ive had to prove my inoccents all over again because someone forgot which one is Damage (Da-mage/the mage, or damage, damage is the Affect of a cause not the effect)ya think that destruction on that highway in iraqi durring the first gulf was was from bombs:rolleyes:ever hear of firestarter's. and i wonder why theyve put so much effort in me. Even if people like me sooner or later someone tells them something and all of a sudden im either looked at with predjuduse eye's or im feared, maybe if some would tell them the truth i could have a real relationship with someone,,,even the best get scared around me, the only one that can even try to put me in my place and not be frightend and actualy do it is my father and children do not fear me at all, i can sit in the corneer not atracting any attention and a child will draw me a picture or have a conversation with me, some have noticed this and noticed that at time's when i first meat someone's child they look at me with a bit of awe, the children know exactly what i am they know that i see truth in them as well as they do me, ever hear of Indigo children...Ya there intention was to try to enslave indigo's and use us as elite intel and special forces'type stuff as well as useing us like computer's a such. Im so pissed about this especialy, they tried to controle mankinds next evolution, kinda like a x-men comic combinded with mancurian canidate...ya ive had alot of controlers and they are a bit scared now that they now im free as i can be and some wonder if i remember everything they did to me(as in torture to cause memorie loss)....so my experience is they have put me through the hoops and have used me like alot of other's the diffence is i was desinged to sniff out mk-ultra type's and start the deprogramin all the while under the cover as a programer type which cause a glitch because there is a programer around the same age and looks that live near and tried to switch with me, imagine a programer given access to the task of de-programing, imagine the havoc that would reak 97-2001 then proveing who i am from 2002-2008 as well as proveing that i would not seak selfish revenge towards the victums of his manipulation....He and they not only knew that they had enslaved not only a human but also Royalty so someone not only wanted my slave job but they wanted my crown and they knew i wasnt controleble anymore as well as my training started before the Military got me and my core programing is of myself, kinda like a logic loop or the snake eating the tail.
more info and brain farts in another thread i started, my experience may be very difent than even those that worked in the field which is very unfortunate. I will try to explain a bit, part of what was done to myself, im a bit of a Scout, wierd how it worked out guese i went a bit more into it than the princes of england:eek: Man talk about a storie line for a new type of fiction, how did that saying go in 5 fingers(if its true its teriffieng and if it fictional it is heroic.)