A question that hasn't been asked...

[yuummmy]

Why does the illuminati choose evil? They are the illuminated ones for goodness sake! They have advanced secret knowledge that we "good" people don't. These are the elite, the people at the top. You have to think that they are much more spiritually advanced then we are yet they choose evil. Makes me wonder...

[phildee3]

Why does the illuminati choose evil? They are the illuminated ones for goodness sake! They have advanced secret knowledge that we "good" people don't. These are the elite, the people at the top. You have to think that they are much more spiritually advanced then we are yet they choose evil. Makes me wonder...



Those who you call the illuminati (ie the elite) are not the illuminati.

The word has been hijacked - Orwellian "doublespeak."

Th real illuminati would never choose evil.

[cognizant]

They are seeking power and to control. They aren't "illuminated" in a good way. They are Luciferian as they follow the "Angel of Light."

[tom bombadil]

I am not sure that their longevity does anything for an advanced state of mind!

They do it that way cos it is simpler.


Looking at it as souls/people that have no choice because it is in their make-up, then look at it side on; If it were you.

You would comand an audiance.
Command understanding.
Keep little secrets.
Breed them.
Nueter them.
Move them as you will.
Make them work for you.
Keep big secrets.
Kill your flock if you have to, and even start again.
Command ultimate control.......


"I dont do that" you might say. No but you can.


Looking at it as if you were a keeper of rabbits or a simple farmer, even of just wheat, then its easier to think that way.

Aint it?


Tom.

[h2pogo]

IMHO its because they are in league with the devil who is really a reptoid alien species.

[bedog]

Why does the illuminati choose evil? They are the illuminated ones for goodness sake! They have advanced secret knowledge that we "good" people don't. These are the elite, the people at the top. You have to think that they are much more spiritually advanced then we are yet they choose evil. Makes me wonder...

The most important thing to remember is that "evil" is a relative term. It all depends on where you're standing.

I might be doing my gardening, and while doing that, I cut a limb off my tree that is hanging over my neighbours garden.
I believe this to be a helpful act, but my neighbour needed that limb for shadowing his price roses. So in his eyes I'm evil, while in my eyes I'm good.

[phildee3]

The most important thing to remember is that "evil" is a relative term. It all depends on where you're standing.

I might be doing my gardening, and while doing that, I cut a limb off my tree that is hanging over my neighbours garden.
I believe this to be a helpful act, but my neighbour needed that limb for shadowing his price roses. So in his eyes I'm evil, while in my eyes I'm good.



But there are those who are evil, who have evil intent.
Which makes your analogy erronious.

[cruise4]

That metaphor is terrible. The tree might see you as evil, but the neighbour and you are stupid for not talking beforehand, and shading or not shading a rose, or leaving or not leaving a branch overhanging has nothing to do with evil, but practicality.

[bedog]

That metaphor is terrible. The tree might see you as evil, but the neighbour and you are stupid for not talking beforehand, and shading or not shading a rose, or leaving or not leaving a branch overhanging has nothing to do with evil, but practicality.

Touché ;)

[bedog]

But there are those who are evil, who have evil intent.
Which makes your analogy erronious.

So, define Evil then?
What is Evil intent?

[spiraltrance]

They don't see it as evil. The Illuminati see themselves as supiorer to most other people and therefore probably don't feel there actions are evil but necesary to maintain there power.

A similar analogy would be a farmer that breeds sheep to slughter. He probably doesn't see what he does as evil but necesary to survive.

[tracker]

technicly , evil , or negativity is a point of perception .

however , this has highlighted something here .

maybe , there are 3 fighting factions in the world today .:rolleyes:

1)those who are the real illuminate trying to establish a true piecefull NWO in a good way .

2) then there are those who have stollen the image to do bad things to counteract that move by doing the same in a bad way , thus

3) we see this and protest .

we are the 3rd party .


who knows ?

just a thought guys dont go beeting me up now .:D

as my saying goes

there is more to reality than meets the eye .

[rossus]

i think many "illuminati" type people help the agenda forward
because money + power =
easy jobs, sex with anyone they want, drugs, material wealth, etc.



but i would suspect that the people highest up the "illuminati" ladder

they might feel like a victim for existing as flesh...
and so they come to hate creation as it is...
they probably use their own "selfpity" as a justification for...

caring only for themselves, keeping their material wealth
and abundance of pleasure intact..
not caring for the other living beings,

and in a perverted way, a minority probably gain some kind of pleasure from hurting others.
these "most evil" ones are completely at the top of their organization.




like the story in the bible goes,
lucifer rebelled against the will of god...

the powers that be rebel against creation as it is,
by destroying it, hurting it and abusing it.


the beast man (http://users.telenet.be/psy/muziek/08.mp3)
Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn.
Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed.
Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land.
Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours.
Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death.

also,
there's that theory
that the really elites.. are sociopaths with the sociopath-gene born into them.
being unable to feel love and compassion, they feel empty...
certainly, that would explain their obsession with keeping their genes "pure".

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_sociopaths_in_some_sense_choose_to_be_callous_b rutal_and_cruel

i don't know tho, these are all just thoughtss
So, define Evil then?
What is Evil intent?
to consciously choose to cause suffering in another living being.

[tracker]

i think many "illuminati" type people help the agenda forward
because money + power =
easy jobs, sex with anyone they want, drugs, material wealth, etc.



but i would suspect that the people highest up the illuminati ladder

they might feel like a victim for existing as flesh...
and so they come to hate creation as it is...
they probably use their own "selfpity" as a justification for...

caring only for themselves, keeping their material wealth
and abundance of pleasure intact..
not caring for the other living beings,

and in a perverted way some probably gain some kind of pleasure from hurting others.

yes but that is what we see .

im talking about

what we dont .

you know when something is wrong with the big picture , and thats when they shove it so close to your face you cant see it all.

is my point . :D

[phildee3]

So, define Evil then?
What is Evil intent?



You're jealous of your neighbour's prize roses
so you cut the tree limb while he's standing under it
so that it causes injury severe enough so he can't work on them, or see them cos he's blinded, and hopefully won't even be able to go out into his garden ever again - hee, hee!

[bedog]

You're jealous of your neighbour's prize roses
so you cut the tree limb while he's standing under it
so that it causes injury severe enough so he can't work on them, or see them cos he's blinded, and hopefully won't even be able to go out into his garden ever again - hee, hee!

But you're misunderstanding my example. My intention when cutting down the branch was that it imposed on his yard, thus I need to remove it.

I agree to the point that I should've talked to my neighbour beforehand, but even so, that does not make my intent evil.

My intent was actually to help and to not impose on his privacy.

[phildee3]

But you're misunderstanding my example. My intention when cutting down the branch was that it imposed on his yard, thus I need to remove it.



No, you're misunderstanding my message no. 15, which is an answer to your message no. 10.