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ironwand
16-09-2008, 03:38 PM
On 14 September 2008, The Mail on Sunday reported thus:

CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS FIVE SHOULD BE TAUGHT TO UNDERSTAND THE PLEASURES OF GAY SEX, according to leaders of a TAXPAYER-FUNDED education project.

Heads of the project have set themselves a goal of 'CREATING PRIMARY CLASSROOMS WHERE QUEER SEXUALITIES ARE AFFIRMED AND CELEBRATED'.

The ambition was revealed in documents prepared for the No Outsiders project run by researchers from universities… At a seminar at Exeter University tomorrow, supporters of the group will… discuss 'PLEASURE AND DESIRE IN EDUCATIONAL CONTEXTS'.

A document prepared for the seminar and couched in convoluted academic jargon says:

'The team is concerned TO INTERROGATE THE DESEXUALISATION OF CHILDREN'S BODIES, THE NEGATION OF PLEASURE AND DESIRE IN EDUCATIONAL CONTEXTS, and the tendency to shy away from discussion of bodily activity in No Outsiders project work.

The danger of accusations of the corruption of innocent children has led team members to make repeated claims that this project is not about sex or desire… Yet, at a very significant level, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS ABOUT and to deny this may have significant negative implications for children and young people’.

BOOKS, PUPPET SHOWS AND PLAYS ARE USED TO TEACH CHILDREN ABOUT SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIPS.

The seminar will 'question the taken-for-granted of the SUPPOSEDLY SEXLESS, BODILESS AND DESIRE-LESS PRIMARY CLASSROOM' and examine 'the place of the research team members' own bodies, desires and pleasures in this research'…

Patricia Morgan, author of studies of family life and gay adoption, said:

'The proposal is that primary school classrooms should be turned into gay saunas. This is about homosexual practice in junior schools. THE IDIOTS WHO REPEALED SECTION 28 SHOULD CONSIDER THAT THIS IS WHERE IT HAS GOT THEM'.

They’re not idiots, Pat.

They’re traitors.

Simon Calvert of the Christian Institute also said:

When an adult who is working in a primary school suggests that children should explore their sexuality, THAT SHOULD RESULT IN A COMPLAINT TO THE POLICE.

It should, Simon, but when you’ve got the likes of the ultra-gay Peter Mandelson foisting the Blair project upon the rest of us, it won’t.

The article above speaks of “a seminar at Exeter University”, held yesterday, 15 September 2008.

The seminar made no bones at all regarding its intentions. Those who ran the show were quite blasé about their aspirations for our children.The title that the No Outsiders reseach team gave to their seminar was this: "Queering the Body; Queering Primary Education".

That’s the world that Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Peter Mandelson, David Miliband and all of those MPs who voted to repeal section 28 have foist upon us and our children.

Fin Cullen, one of those who spoke at the Queering the Body; Queering Primary Education seminar, chose to speak about this subject: “Subversion and the Carnivalesque: Breaking Rules in the Queer Classroom”.

This particular lady appears in Facebook. Here is some of her freely available personal information.

Facebook groups she belongs to include:

Friends of Southall Black Sisters; I find Chav Hate Depressing and Regressive; The London Feminist Network and We Work With Yoofs.

Under About Me, she describes herself as an, ageing adolescent with an attitude problem.

Under Favorite Quotes, she cites the Mae West gem:

She's the kind of girl who climbed the ladder of success wrong by wrong.

Which is quite witty but do we want a person who identifies with such a sentiment determining the future of our children?

I don't.

Under Activities and Interests, Ms Cullen lists: bickering; gossip (true or otherwise); scandal; sarcasm; being a gobshi*e and picking scabs.

Ladies and gentlemen, is there really anyone out there who wants a person like this mapping out the future for our children?

Professor Susan Talburt, the Director of the Women’s Studies Institute, at Georgia State University, in the USA, was the guest speaker at the seminar and delivered the keynote address.

At Georgia State we are told that Professor Talburt teaches feminist methodologies; poststructural and feminist theories and youth and sexualities. Her research interests include feminist and queer theories.

Books Talburt has written include: Youth and Sexualities: Pleasure, Subversion and Insubordination In and Out of Schools and Thinking Queer: Sexuality, Culture, and Education, which she co-authored with Shirley R. Steinberg.

This is Susan Talburt:
http://www.iamanenglishman.com/images/1atalburt2.jpg

Here are some of the things the No Outsiders research team tell us about the seminar at their web site:

THROUGH ONGOING DEBATE AND EXPLORATION DURING THE PROJECT, MEMBERS OF THE PROJECT TEAM HAVE… CHALLENGED EACH OTHER TO GO BEYOND IMAGINED POSSIBILITIES INTO QUEER PRACTICE. In addition, the team has explored… ways in which… performativity might be interrupted/disrupted in order both to QUEER THE NORM and normalise the queer.

"Queer the norm"?

Turning straight behaviour gay? Is that what this means?

The seminar continues this process, AIMING TO TROUBLE US – and the seminar participants – out of our comfort zones and TO QUESTION THE TAKEN-FOR-GRANTED OF THE SUPPOSEDLY SEXLESS, BODILESS AND DESIRE-LESS PRIMARY CLASSROOM.

Drawing on project data, the seminar will address these questions:

HOW MIGHT WE CREATE PRIMARY CLASSROOMS WHERE GENDER-QUEER BODIES AND QUEER SEXUALITIES (FOR CHILDREN AND TEACHERS) ARE AFFIRMED AND CELEBRATED?

WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO TEACH QUEERLY? HOW WOULD TEACHERS’ AND CHILDREN’S BODIES BE IMPLICATED IN THIS? WHAT SORTS OF SUBVERSIONS AND REVERSALS MIGHT IT ENTAIL?

AT WHAT COST DO WE DENY CHILDREN’S AND TEACHERS’ SEXUALITY? WHAT DO WE LOSE IF DESIRE AND PLEASURE ARE BANNED FROM THE CLASSROOM?

And finally, ladies and gentlemen:

WHAT IS THE PLACE OF THE RESEARCH TEAM MEMBERS’ OWN BODIES, DESIRES AND PLEASURES IN THIS RESEARCH?

In other words, whilst we’re figuring out how to turn the nation’s children into a bunch of puffs and lesbians, let’s have a gay orgy.

Ladies and gentlemen, are you happy at the prospect of your 5-year-old being “taught to understand the pleasures of gay sex”?

I’m not. I think the No Outsiders project, which is already up and running in 14 primary schools, is nothing less than a paedophile’s charter.

The New Labour quango, The Economic and Social Research Council, gave the No Outsiders group £600,000 last year to conduct seminars like the one they held yesterday!

The government, in turn, gave the ESRC £181 MILLION of taxpayer’s money to hand out to unrepresentative groups such as these!

New Labour does not use the cash we put into its coffers to protect us or our children, folks. Those who rule our lives are using our own money to destroy us.

On 7 July 2008, The Daily Mail told us that the National Children's Bureau, another government-funded quango, was getting twenty times as much funding as the No Outsiders group to produce documents which were saying things like:

Even babies should not be ignored in the hunt for racism!

THEY are at war with us, ladies and gentlemen.

THEY really are.

keystone
16-09-2008, 03:44 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, are you happy at the prospect of your 5-year-old being “taught to understand the pleasures of gay sex”?

I’m not. I think the No Outsiders project, which is already up and running in 14 primary schools, is nothing less than a paedophile’s charter.

I'm not happy at the thought of my 8 year old being taught this stuff let alone when she may have been five FFS.

This is f'kin sick! :mad:

stelios
16-09-2008, 03:51 PM
This is totally disgusting and must be prevented from happening.


ps: I bet Peter Tatchell must be pleased who has been campaigning for a lowering of the age of consent and the decriminalisation of adults who have been convicted of having sex with children.

size_of_light
16-09-2008, 03:54 PM
Alright, now I'm officially pissed at these motherfuckers.

mynameis
16-09-2008, 04:08 PM
So by posting this ironwand, I assume you feel good that children bully other children based on their own perception of sexuality; and that such bullying, hazing, and hate attacks from these types of children on other children up unto the point of murder is an acceptable result, instead of solving the problems like this with more education?

dangermouse
16-09-2008, 04:12 PM
So by posting this ironwand, I assume you feel good that children bully other children based on their own perception of sexuality; and that such bullying, hazing, and hate attacks from these types of children on other children up unto the point of murder is an acceptable result, instead of solving the problems like this with more education?

This isnt April 1st .. oh wait your actually being serious .. :eek:

ennui
16-09-2008, 04:17 PM
Seeing as this is in The Mail, who like to sensationalize everything, I'm taking it with a pinch of salt. If we're talking about teaching children, with puppets, that some people are gay, then I can't see a problem with that if done properly. If we're talking about teaching them "the joys of gay sex" then I do have a problem with that, as I don't think 5 years old should be learning about sex, gay or straight.

It would be nice if we lived in a world where people weren't judged on their sexuality, but I'm not sure that this is the way to go about it.

keystone
16-09-2008, 04:19 PM
Seeing as this is in The Mail, who like to sensationalize everything,.............Oh you've never looked at the Sun, Star or News Of The Screws then?

size_of_light
16-09-2008, 04:19 PM
So by posting this ironwand, I assume you feel good that children bully other children based on their own perception of sexuality; and that such bullying, hazing, and hate attacks from these types of children on other children up unto the point of murder is an acceptable result, instead of solving the problems like this with more education?

I understand your point, but could you possibly be missing a larger one? :)

mynameis
16-09-2008, 04:22 PM
Seeing as this is in The Mail, who like to sensationalize everything, I'm taking it with a pinch of salt. If we're talking about teaching children, with puppets, that some people are gay, then I can't see a problem with that if done properly. If we're talking about teaching them "the joys of gay sex" then I do have a problem with that, as I don't think 5 years old should be learning about sex, gay or straight.

It would be nice if we lived in a world where people weren't judged on their sexuality, but I'm not sure that this is the way to go about it.

I agree with you there. It's how it is all packaged.

ennui
16-09-2008, 04:26 PM
Oh you've never looked at the Sun, Star or News Of The Screws then?

Just because they're crap newspapers that somehow makes The Daily Mail less sensationalist? I don't get your logic.

resistance
16-09-2008, 04:30 PM
This is sickening, parents need to be taught their rights because openly encouraging young children to be gay is unlawfull, why do these parents not do anything about it?

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden-agenda-for-feminism-homosexuality/

zero1
16-09-2008, 04:37 PM
I told you guys in the "Views on homosexuality..." thread, anything goes soon in this society of ours.

Moms banging sons, fathers taking daughters virginity, boys of 8 & 9 screwing each other anally, girls licking each other out by 10 yrs of age!

It's all going down soon...

Free! We'll all be free! :rolleyes:

mynameis
16-09-2008, 04:41 PM
I told you guys in the "Views on homosexuality..." thread, anything goes soon in this society of ours.

Moms banging sons, fathers taking daughters virginity, boys of 8 & 9 screwing each other anally, girls licking each other out by 10 yrs of age!

It's all going down soon...

Free! We'll all be free! :rolleyes:

Proof? :rolleyes:

sukyspook
16-09-2008, 04:58 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! !!!

Sometimes words fail me.....sigh

killmicrosoft
16-09-2008, 05:15 PM
http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=11944

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,978565,00.html

http://www.mfc.org/contents/article.cfm?id=1576

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-441542/Four-year-olds-gay-fairytales-school.html

http://forums.gumtree.com/about216771.html

http://endofmen.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/teach-gay-sex-to-under-11s-say-researchers/

http://sexualities.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/3/4/439

http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/16/that-slipper-sex-ed-slope/

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56293

http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053362/The-How-Happy-classes-coming-school-near-you.html

http://blow.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/respond-to-todays-column-lets-talk-about-sex/?apage=2

http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=441972&articleId=1202873&func=6&channel=uknews&filterRead=false&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false

http://isupporttheresistance.blogspot.com/2008/09/teach-pleasure-of-gay-sex-to-five-year.html

eyepod
16-09-2008, 05:23 PM
I think you might find this is already occuring to a certain extent. My friend was telling me about his sisters kid who is 6 or 7, he had returned from school telling her how he had been taught that boys kissing boys and girls kissing girls is totally fine. Now at 6 or 7 you shouldn't really be particularly sexualised let alone decideing if you are gay or not. He had been taught other stuff of a sexual nature also but I can't remember exactly what it was.

size_of_light
16-09-2008, 05:24 PM
I think you might find this is already occuring to a certain extent. My friend was telling me about his sisters kid who is 6 or 7, he had returned from school telling her how he had been taught that boys kissing boys and girls kissing girls is totally fine. Now at 6 or 7 you shouldn't really be particularly sexualised let alone decideing if you are gay or not. He had been taught other stuff of a sexual nature also but I can't remember exactly what it was.

I get hungry every time I see your avatar.

keystone
16-09-2008, 05:27 PM
Just because they're crap newspapers that somehow makes The Daily Mail less sensationalist? I don't get your logic.Ah hum. Did I say that? I ask a simple question to which you attribute a meaning which wasn't there and then question MY logic?

resistance
16-09-2008, 05:41 PM
Some more links on the sickening hidden gay agenda.

http://www.home60515.com/21.html



http://www.home60515.com/5.html

The Trojan Horses

of Feminism

"In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them." (Dr. Mary Jo Bane, assistant professor of education at Wellesley College and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman)

"The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft." ("The Declaration of Feminism," November 1971).

"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." (Radical feminist leader Sheila Cronan)

"We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men..." Elizabeth Cady Stanton, "One Woman, One Vote", Wheeler, p.58

"The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist." ( Sheila Cronan, National NOW Times, Jan.1988)

" "We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage." - from Sisterhood Is Powerful, Robin Morgan (ed), 1970, p.537.

"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" (Sheila Cronan, 1988 Houston National Organization for Women {NOW} Conference for Women.).

"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." .... "You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs." (Catherine MacKinnon - Prominent feminist scholar at the University of Michigan and Yale)

"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it." (Former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan)


"A woman who has sex with a man, therefore, does so against her will, 'even if she does not feel forced.' Judith Levine

"The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things." Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men.)

"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent." Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies.

"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression..." Sheila Jeffrys.

MALE:...represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants...the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female. MAN:...an obsolete life form... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched...a contradictory baby-man... From 'A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985:

zero1
16-09-2008, 05:51 PM
Proof? :rolleyes:

In the pudding! I was being ironic...slightly, but I do believe conventional morality is out the window.

Don't you?

mynameis
16-09-2008, 06:02 PM
In the pudding! I was being ironic...slightly, but I do believe conventional morality is out the window.

Don't you?

No, each hemisphere has it's own sphere of morality, but is by no means set in stone:

Europe = Open but individualistic,
Asia = Open but conformist,
South America = Open, individualistic, conformist,
Central America = Closed, conformist.
Latin America (islands) = Open, individualism
Mid East = Closed, conformist,
Africa = Closed, conformist, little individualism
South Pacific = Closed conformist,
North America = Closed conformist, little individualism,

zero1
16-09-2008, 06:08 PM
No, each hemisphere has it's own sphere of morality, but is by no means set in stone:

Europe = Open but individualistic,
Asia = Open but conformist,
South America = Open, individualistic, conformist,
Central America = Closed, conformist.
Latin America (islands) = Open, individualism
Mid East = Closed, conformist,
Africa = Closed, conformist, little individualism
South Pacific = Closed conformist,
North America = Closed conformist, little individualism,

Interesting view. :)

sukyspook
16-09-2008, 06:12 PM
I apologise for posting this if you've already seen it but it's so important:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M

www.deliberatedumbingdown.com

for the free book of the same name - especially important if you are still a 'teacher' in 'the system'.....

red_ram
16-09-2008, 06:14 PM
I don't think gayness should be 'celebrated' any more than I think heterosexuality should be celebrated. 'Accepted' certainly.

size_of_light
16-09-2008, 06:14 PM
No, each hemisphere has it's own sphere of morality, but is by no means set in stone:

Europe = Open but individualistic,
Asia = Open but conformist,
South America = Open, individualistic, conformist,
Central America = Closed, conformist.
Latin America (islands) = Open, individualism
Mid East = Closed, conformist,
Africa = Closed, conformist, little individualism
South Pacific = Closed conformist,
North America = Closed conformist, little individualism,

I forgive you for not including the largest nation-continent on earth :rolleyes::p

resistance
16-09-2008, 06:21 PM
Gay fascism. This hidden gay agenda has gone too far, people need to be enlightened.

http://www.gaysandfascism.com/gay_alerts/Gay_Alert_6_book_secure.pdf

http://www.thelabourparty.org/article_01.htm

Exploding the gay myth, fascism and marxism reborn.

http://www.gaysandfascism.com/ebooks/Exploding_the_Gay_Myth_Part_1_secure.pdf

lizzy
16-09-2008, 06:31 PM
yes resistance.....

this is the direction,.......about as sick as it gets....and

I see it ulimately taking us into the Hermaphrodite Agenda.....

ennui
16-09-2008, 07:32 PM
Ah hum. Did I say that? I ask a simple question to which you attribute a meaning which wasn't there and then question MY logic?

What was the point of you post then? Or wasn't there one?

cheeb
17-09-2008, 12:26 AM
Daily Mail Mass Hysteria.....

This Is What All The Fuss Is About.....

http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/damnsod/tango_makes_three.jpg

And Tango Makes Three
... is a 2005 children's book written by Peter Parnell and Justin Richardson and illustrated by Henry Cole. The book is based on the true story of Roy and Silo, two male Chinstrap Penguins in New York's Central Park Zoo who for a time formed a couple. The book follows part of this time in the penguins' lives. This book aims to send the reader the message that it is okay to be in, or know someone who has, a "non-traditional" family.

The pair were observed trying to hatch a rock that resembled an egg. When zookeepers realized that Roy and Silo were both male, it occurred to them to give them the second egg of a mixed-sex penguin couple, a couple which had previously been unable to successfully hatch two eggs at once. Roy and Silo hatched and raised the healthy young chick, a female named "Tango" by keepers, together as a family.

http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/damnsod/daily_mail_ted.jpg


Headlines Read..
Reaction..
Solution....

Cointpro......
Counter Intellegence Propoganda

:eek:

tyler
17-09-2008, 12:59 AM
Lizzy is on the ball! Only she could see the hidden agenda.

What next ......bestiality?

Enough already!

smurf
17-09-2008, 01:03 AM
That is bullshit. They are still only babies.
What are the "experts" thinking?
Children need to be allowed to be children. Who the hell do they think they are taking away their innocence so early? Let alone encourage them to try. Jesus..

bendoon
17-09-2008, 01:07 AM
Here is the website of the Quango that was given £600000 of taxpayers money to come up with this fiendish plan.

http://www.nooutsiders.sunderland.ac.uk/about-the-project


Political Correctness (Cultural Marxism)

Undermine society by the promotion of:

Multiculturalism
Feminism
Gay rights
Sex education for children as young as 5

romas
17-09-2008, 01:11 AM
I apologise for posting this if you've already seen it but it's so important:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M

www.deliberatedumbingdown.com

for the free book of the same name - especially important if you are still a 'teacher' in 'the system'.....



Great video, also check her interview wit hJeff Rense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX1_JNguJAI&feature=PlayList&p=AD12100881ACA2E6&index=2

romas
17-09-2008, 01:12 AM
I don't know anything about sexuality agenda, doesn't make sense to me, however there is massive dumbification of the world going on right now. Heading into two class system.

monkey
17-09-2008, 01:49 AM
Daily Mail Mass Hysteria...This book aims to send the reader the message that it is okay to be in, or know someone who has, a "non-traditional" family. Headlines Read...Reaction...Solution....Cointpro......
Counter Intellegence Propoganda

Bollocks. This corruption of children is nothing less than EVIL. And don't think the Daily Mail influences me, they don't even touch the surface, The gay agenda is EVERYWHERE.

Ever watched BBC tv? The quality of programming (what it is) has plummeted. Crass, vapid shows like 'Torchwood'(not overly gay, just shit), 'Graham Norton UNCUT' (un-cut is gay slang for an uncircumcised penis), 'sex with mum and dad'(what the f**k?) ,'page three teens' (paedophile agenda, to corrupt remaining heterosexuals) . Jonathon ross making buggery jokes EVERY SHOW.

It really IS everywhere, from the gay movies like 'TOP GUN' to gay shows like 'prison break' , constantly reinforcing the image of heterosexuality as a shaved, pre pubescant gym bunny, when that is in fact the HOMO IDEAL.

It is nothing less than ROMAN culture imposed on us by the few sick BABYLONIAN NAZIS that run our media. Look at the NAZI party uniforms, rallies, parades and tell me they were not 100% bonafide shirtlifters.

US Navy wife Kay Griggs tells us about the GAY german nazi's brought over after ww2 in project paperclip. She says the yank navy referred to them as having "the german disease", she called them "the pink triangle boys"

Hitler had a police record for prostitution as a young man

Our culture is ALREADY VERY SICK and rotten to the core .

MOTORBIKES. GAY.

SPORTS are TOTALLY gay. RUGBY (BUGRY) , football (leg show) and the worst BOXING (2 oiled, almost naked men in french knickers enjoying eachothers physicality). WRESTLING (I mean, come on). VIOLENCE IS GAY. violence to women is the most gay act possible.

Why do we read all these tales of many footballers 'ROASTING ' groupies. Would anyone really want to see the erect penis of thier colleague? then go stirring their custard? The whole thing is GAY , the degradation of women (HOMO's see women as inferior creatures), The making men feel comfortable being naked and aroused together, all brainwashing, like the bullshit in the media promoting anal sex. No woman wants anal sex unless she is mentally ill (made so by society and media manipuilation), it's all just to get MEN used to doing people in the ronson.

EXTREME MASCULINITY IS GAY. simple as that . These weightlifters who do all the steroids always end up fucking eachother from too much testosterone, scrambles thier dna... The scale does not go

SUPERMACHO (on steroids)- MACHO - GOOD AT SPORTS - NORMAL - BIT OF A PANSY - GAY - V GAY - FEMALE

In reality it is more like

UBERGAY - MACHO(gay) - NORMAL - CRIES AT WEDDINGS - GEEZERBIRD - BIRD

bendoon
17-09-2008, 01:53 AM
Daily Mail Mass Hysteria.....

[b]This Is What All The Fuss Is About.....

[:

I have noted that cheeb always supports the establishment (pro NWO) view

smurf
17-09-2008, 01:56 AM
Pardon my language, Monkey, but what the fuck are you talking about?
Let's make something clear to start with. I shave. Most men shave. That isn't part of any "Homo Ideal' as you so sweetly put it.

Being a man is not gay. Next time you want to pull a theory out of your ass like that, how about you don't share it with us and have it make at least an ounce of sense?

jhado
17-09-2008, 02:10 AM
So, Henry Makow was right all along. He's been banging on about this for years now.

monkey
17-09-2008, 11:31 AM
Let's make something clear to start with. I shave. That isn't part of any "Homo Ideal' as you so sweetly put it.

Kidding yourself. You been brainwashed by the gay media messages. Do you really think having a smooth, boyish complexion has always been of great importance to men? This cultural peculiarity was started by the GAY ROMAN EMPIRE and continues to be imposed on mankind.

Why are you at war with your body? Male humans have hair where females don't. Why fight this? It will only grow back. Do you shave your legs?
Do you shave your underarms? do you shave your chest? (probably)

Why do you shave? because gillette and the brainwashing in the media tell you to many , many times every day, just as the TV set tells you homosexuality is something other than the slow death of the species.

Why do you think they pay for all these adverts? as a service to you, who might want thier product?
They are advertising to sell you some SHIT YOU DON'T NEED. They don't advertise to remind you to eat or sleep well. They have tricked men into buying MASSIVELY OVERPRICED razor blades as something the NEED every day, and guess what , the hair keeps growing so you will always be trapped into buying these products, just as they convince you that you should entirely cover your natural human smells with chemicals and scent taken from other mammals (no shit, look it up). To many it is unthinkable to leave the house looking and smelling like a human.

ANOTHER WAY TO TAKE YOUR POWER and separate men and women.

Shaving your face EMASCULATES you, takes your power, authority and self esteem away. Just another KEN. Why do you think they shave the heads oif SLAVES, PRISONERS OR SOLDIERS? To homogenise them, remove any trace of thier individual identity, Your hair is who you are man, don't throw it away.

Do you shave because the media tells you that WOMEN like thier man to appear like a pre pubescant boy? Do you shave because the gay media tells women that it is what they want, just as it tells them that they want designer label shit and to be anorexic, androginous.

Don't get offended buddy, I am NOT saying that you are a homo or that shaving makes you gay , but it is a WEIRD practice, and it IS part of the HOMO/paedo agenda.

Wanna know what else is gay? TATTOOS.

none
17-09-2008, 12:51 PM
or....... do you shave because your WOMAN likes you to have a smooth face.
I have tattoos .... I like burds, and mens bottoms do nothing fo me.
....and I have a signature
...... what a poofy smooth faced, tattooed wanker I am.... lol

monkey .... pah! every messageboard has one ...... every village has one as well .....lol

tinmenace
17-09-2008, 01:02 PM
I don't believe that sex education is appropriate for any five year old, regardless of their sexual orientation.

mynameis
17-09-2008, 01:03 PM
Kidding yourself. You been brainwashed by the gay media messages. Do you really think having a smooth, boyish complexion has always been of great importance to men? This cultural peculiarity was started by the GAY ROMAN EMPIRE and continues to be imposed on mankind.

Why are you at war with your body? Male humans have hair where females don't. Why fight this? It will only grow back. Do you shave your legs?
Do you shave your underarms? do you shave your chest? (probably)

Why do you shave? because gillette and the brainwashing in the media tell you to many , many times every day, just as the TV set tells you homosexuality is something other than the slow death of the species.

Why do you think they pay for all these adverts? as a service to you, who might want thier product?
They are advertising to sell you some SHIT YOU DON'T NEED. They don't advertise to remind you to eat or sleep well. They have tricked men into buying MASSIVELY OVERPRICED razor blades as something the NEED every day, and guess what , the hair keeps growing so you will always be trapped into buying these products, just as they convince you that you should entirely cover your natural human smells with chemicals and scent taken from other mammals (no shit, look it up). To many it is unthinkable to leave the house looking and smelling like a human.

ANOTHER WAY TO TAKE YOUR POWER and separate men and women.

Shaving your face EMASCULATES you, takes your power, authority and self esteem away. Just another KEN. Why do you think they shave the heads oif SLAVES, PRISONERS OR SOLDIERS? To homogenise them, remove any trace of thier individual identity, Your hair is who you are man, don't throw it away.

Do you shave because the media tells you that WOMEN like thier man to appear like a pre pubescant boy? Do you shave because the gay media tells women that it is what they want, just as it tells them that they want designer label shit and to be anorexic, androginous.

Don't get offended buddy, I am NOT saying that you are a homo or that shaving makes you gay , but it is a WEIRD practice, and it IS part of the HOMO/paedo agenda.

Wanna know what else is gay? TATTOOS.

Actually, he's more right then you know; tattoos are tribal though. All men's products are optional. At least that's how they used to do things. Culture of men has eroded I think throughout history from the time of the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans. Some of these changes were for the benefit of attracting women, but it's really gone too far. Abercrombie & Fitch being the pinnacle a few years ago.

none
17-09-2008, 01:29 PM
If it attracts the women, it can't be bad ..... just playing their game.

mynameis
17-09-2008, 01:46 PM
If it attracts the women, it can't be bad ..... just playing their game.

So then you agree with the gay lifestyle if it attracts women? I don't follow?

ennui
17-09-2008, 02:35 PM
Men have been shaving for thousands of years. Cave painting from the stone age show beardless men and shaving tools were found from the Neolithic Period. They probably shaved for a number of reasons; to stop lice, to make it easier to eat, easier to fight and superstitions regarding long beards and old age/death.

I highly doubt that stone age man started shaving because of a 'homo/peado agenda' as you put it.

I suppose you'd be happy if there were no gays on TV at all. Tell you what, let's put them all in concentration camps, then we won't have to look at them at all. We can just pretend they don't exist. Then we'll do the same with the Jews and the immigrants and I've never much liked gypsies. Yeah we'll get rid of them too.

Sometimes I think some people on this forum are more brainwashed than the so called sheeple. Stop reading the Daily Mail and start thinking for yourselves!

ronisron
17-09-2008, 02:37 PM
I don't believe that sex education is appropriate for any five year old, regardless of their sexual orientation.




I was just going to post this exact statement. It's inappropriate at BEST to explain sexual pleasure to a 5 or 6 year old. Wow. What a blatant agenda these folks have.

monkey
17-09-2008, 04:29 PM
I've never much liked gypsies.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=508351&posted=1#post508351

none
17-09-2008, 05:56 PM
So then you agree with the gay lifestyle if it attracts women? I don't follow?
No, I agree with shaving my face to attract women. If it makes it easier to 'get a burd' then what's the harm?
I should have quoted the post I was replying to ... sorry.

monkey
17-09-2008, 06:29 PM
No, I agree with shaving my face to attract women. If it makes it easier to 'get a burd' then what's the harm?

You make it sound like there is some 'game ' you must play, hurdles to jump just to "get" a woman. And you keep saying "attract" women, as if women are not already tring to attract men. Do you beautify yourself and the stand around looking gorgeous , hoping you will "attract" women? utilising any tricks that make it "EASIER" , as if it was difficult in the first place?

I don't understand. Is it not YOUR JOB to approach women that YOU FIND attractive rather than the other way round.

It is a mans role to just be real and claim the woman YOU find attractive. Then the work really starts for you, ctering to your womans needs. She has already done her 'work' by making the most of her feminine beauty to ATTRACT the MALE.

You are all mixed up buddy, no wonder you wish it were "easier" to "GET" women.

kanz
17-09-2008, 07:49 PM
I told you guys in the "Views on homosexuality..." thread, anything goes soon in this society of ours.

Moms banging sons, fathers taking daughters virginity, boys of 8 & 9 screwing each other anally, girls licking each other out by 10 yrs of age!

It's all going down soon...

Free! We'll all be free! :rolleyes:

I don't agree word for word , but i get the point you are trying to make.

kallista
17-09-2008, 08:00 PM
Bollocks. This corruption of children is nothing less than EVIL. And don't think the Daily Mail influences me, they don't even touch the surface, The gay agenda is EVERYWHERE.

Ever watched BBC tv? The quality of programming (what it is) has plummeted. Crass, vapid shows like 'Torchwood'(not overly gay, just shit), 'Graham Norton UNCUT' (un-cut is gay slang for an uncircumcised penis), 'sex with mum and dad'(what the f**k?) ,'page three teens' (paedophile agenda, to corrupt remaining heterosexuals) . Jonathon ross making buggery jokes EVERY SHOW.

It really IS everywhere, from the gay movies like 'TOP GUN' to gay shows like 'prison break' , constantly reinforcing the image of heterosexuality as a shaved, pre pubescant gym bunny, when that is in fact the HOMO IDEAL.

It is nothing less than ROMAN culture imposed on us by the few sick BABYLONIAN NAZIS that run our media. Look at the NAZI party uniforms, rallies, parades and tell me they were not 100% bonafide shirtlifters.

US Navy wife Kay Griggs tells us about the GAY german nazi's brought over after ww2 in project paperclip. She says the yank navy referred to them as having "the german disease", she called them "the pink triangle boys"

Hitler had a police record for prostitution as a young man

Our culture is ALREADY VERY SICK and rotten to the core .

MOTORBIKES. GAY.

SPORTS are TOTALLY gay. RUGBY (BUGRY) , football (leg show) and the worst BOXING (2 oiled, almost naked men in french knickers enjoying eachothers physicality). WRESTLING (I mean, come on). VIOLENCE IS GAY. violence to women is the most gay act possible.

Why do we read all these tales of many footballers 'ROASTING ' groupies. Would anyone really want to see the erect penis of thier colleague? then go stirring their custard? The whole thing is GAY , the degradation of women (HOMO's see women as inferior creatures), The making men feel comfortable being naked and aroused together, all brainwashing, like the bullshit in the media promoting anal sex. No woman wants anal sex unless she is mentally ill (made so by society and media manipuilation), it's all just to get MEN used to doing people in the ronson.

EXTREME MASCULINITY IS GAY. simple as that . These weightlifters who do all the steroids always end up fucking eachother from too much testosterone, scrambles thier dna... The scale does not go

SUPERMACHO (on steroids)- MACHO - GOOD AT SPORTS - NORMAL - BIT OF A PANSY - GAY - V GAY - FEMALE

In reality it is more like

UBERGAY - MACHO(gay) - NORMAL - CRIES AT WEDDINGS - GEEZERBIRD - BIRD

i largely agree with you, there is a homosexual agenda, it is promoted heavily through the media, and ultimately it will lead to the destruction of women, that is the plan. It is all mapped out in Huxley's 'Brave New World.'
Peoples sexuality is a private matter, personally I don't care what adults do with their genitals and I do not want to hear about it endlessly.

adsy
17-09-2008, 08:11 PM
GAY SEX FOR THE WIN! haha :D

Ahh the government gives me a tickle in my side :)

none
17-09-2008, 09:18 PM
You make it sound like there is some 'game ' you must play, hurdles to jump just to "get" a woman. And you keep saying "attract" women, as if women are not already tring to attract men. Do you beautify yourself and the stand around looking gorgeous , hoping you will "attract" women? utilising any tricks that make it "EASIER" , as if it was difficult in the first place?

I don't understand. Is it not YOUR JOB to approach women that YOU FIND attractive rather than the other way round.

It is a mans role to just be real and claim the woman YOU find attractive. Then the work really starts for you, ctering to your womans needs. She has already done her 'work' by making the most of her feminine beauty to ATTRACT the MALE.

You are all mixed up buddy, no wonder you wish it were "easier" to "GET" women.
I am engaged to a wonderful, beautiful woman.
We have 3 children.
I have the only woman I will ever want and she would rather I shave, it's no problem to me, so I shave. *LOL* What's all the fuss about 'buddy'?

cheeb
17-09-2008, 09:35 PM
seems like a nice boy said,
MOTORBIKES. GAY.

SPORTS are TOTALLY gay. RUGBY (BUGRY) , football (leg show) and the worst BOXING (2 oiled, almost naked men in french knickers enjoying eachothers physicality). WRESTLING (I mean, come on). VIOLENCE IS GAY. violence to women is the most gay act possible.

Why do we read all these tales of many footballers 'ROASTING ' groupies. Would anyone really want to see the erect penis of thier colleague? then go stirring their custard? The whole thing is GAY , the degradation of women (HOMO's see women as inferior creatures), The making men feel comfortable being naked and aroused together, all brainwashing, like the bullshit in the media promoting anal sex. No woman wants anal sex unless she is mentally ill (made so by society and media manipuilation), it's all just to get MEN used to doing people in the ronson.

EXTREME MASCULINITY IS GAY. simple as that . These weightlifters who do all the steroids always end up fucking eachother from too much testosterone, scrambles thier dna... The scale does not go

SUPERMACHO (on steroids)- MACHO - GOOD AT SPORTS - NORMAL - BIT OF A PANSY - GAY - V GAY - FEMALE

In reality it is more like

UBERGAY - MACHO(gay) - NORMAL - CRIES AT WEDDINGS - GEEZERBIRD - BIRD

The Only people I Have Ever Met Who See Everything With Gay Coloured Glasses On
...

Are The Gays.....

Who'd Have Thunk It That You Would Come " Out Of The Closet"
On The David Icke Forum...

How Very Brave Of You....

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3310/bearsbarhibernationqy8.jpg

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/4133/smileysissiesqu0.gif

ennui
17-09-2008, 10:52 PM
You make it sound like there is some 'game ' you must play, hurdles to jump just to "get" a woman. And you keep saying "attract" women, as if women are not already tring to attract men. Do you beautify yourself and the stand around looking gorgeous , hoping you will "attract" women? utilising any tricks that make it "EASIER" , as if it was difficult in the first place?

I don't understand. Is it not YOUR JOB to approach women that YOU FIND attractive rather than the other way round.

It is a mans role to just be real and claim the woman YOU find attractive. Then the work really starts for you, ctering to your womans needs. She has already done her 'work' by making the most of her feminine beauty to ATTRACT the MALE.

You are all mixed up buddy, no wonder you wish it were "easier" to "GET" women.

You're not Dick Masterson are you?
http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/

drhemp
17-09-2008, 11:16 PM
The title of this thread cracks me up whenever I look at the forum menu.

cheeb
17-09-2008, 11:41 PM
The title of this thread cracks me up whenever I look at the forum menu.

This Cracks Me Up More...

Shut That Door Said:


MOTORBIKES. GAY.

SPORTS are TOTALLY gay. RUGBY (BUGRY) , football (leg show) and the worst BOXING (2 oiled, almost naked men in french knickers enjoying eachothers physicality).

Gay Motorbikes...
WTF
Football Leg Show
He Should Keep His Eye On The Ball And The Offside Rule,
Instead Of Admiring Footballers Calfs!!!!

Naked men In French Knickers...
I Missed That Bit When Mike Tyson Was Beating The Shit Out Of Frank Bruno.....

Still Whatever Floats Your Boat.....

If "Chase Me" Monkey Gets Off On This Stuff,
That's His Choice...!!!!

Oh..!!! What A Gay Day....!!!!!

:eek:

monkey
18-09-2008, 12:09 AM
I am engaged to a wonderful, beautiful woman.
We have 3 children. I have the only woman I will ever want and she would rather I shave, it's no problem to me, so I shave. *LOL* What's all the fuss about 'buddy'?

You previously stated...

shaving my face to attract women. If it makes it easier to 'get a burd'

So don't get snide. I was simply going on the information YOU gave me.

I was just trying to give some helpful advice to a man who I thought was referring to his OWN need to "get a burd" (it's spelled bird) and that he would make sacrifices "IF it makes it EASIER"

Terribly sorry if I offended you

I Missed That Bit When Mike Tyson Was Beating The Shit Out Of Frank Bruno.....

I bet THAT made you bust your nut.

cheeb
18-09-2008, 12:31 AM
I was just trying to give some helpful advice to a man who I thought was referring to his OWN need

Heterosexual Men Don't Give Manly Advice...

They Buy You Beers,
And Give You Cigarrettes In The Pub...

Never Lighting Another Mans Cigarette Off Course....

That Goes Without Saying.....

Only Homosexual Men Try To Groom Other Men With "Advice"...

But Of Course You Knew That Didn't You

Monkey.....

Oh Lordy..!!! Lordy...!!!!

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/4133/smileysissiesqu0.gif

horseflesh
18-09-2008, 12:32 AM
Are you gay Monkey?. No need to be embarrassed, we're all grown ups here.

Personally I have no problem with kids being taught about sexuality. You are gay at young age (since you were born) whether you like it or not and the sooner people realise this the better. Being gay is normal (and sometimes hell) for some.

Ever been called a poof at school when you where younger?.

I was, and all because I didn't like football?!!.

The sooner this kind of bullying ends the better in my opinion.

And no, I'm not gay... and I still don't like football ;)

People are people, we all come in different shapes, sizes and sexes... some of you seem to have some strange ideas.

bendoon
18-09-2008, 12:33 AM
... some of you seem to have some strange ideas.

They certainly do, like teaching 5 year olds about sex.

monkey
18-09-2008, 12:41 AM
.....and here come the shills.

YOU PEOPLE need The truth about GOOD and BAD aids....

Brass Eye - Good AIDs vs Bad AIDs - YouTube

GAYS in the NAVY

Brass Eye Sex episode - YouTube

cheeb
18-09-2008, 12:46 AM
They certainly do, like teaching 5 year olds about sex.

This Is What The Original Daily Mail Article Was Attacking...!!!!

Can Your Sick Mind Explain What Is Wrong With These Penguins....

Are They Zionist Or Aknazi Jewish Penguins,
This Is What All The Fuss Is About.....

http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/damnsod/tango_makes_three.jpg

And Tango Makes Three
... is a 2005 children's book written by Peter Parnell and Justin Richardson and illustrated by Henry Cole. The book is based on the true story of Roy and Silo, two male Chinstrap Penguins in New York's Central Park Zoo who for a time formed a couple. The book follows part of this time in the penguins' lives. This book aims to send the reader the message that it is okay to be in, or know someone who has, a "non-traditional" family.

The pair were observed trying to hatch a rock that resembled an egg. When zookeepers realized that Roy and Silo were both male, it occurred to them to give them the second egg of a mixed-sex penguin couple, a couple which had previously been unable to successfully hatch two eggs at once. Roy and Silo hatched and raised the healthy young chick, a female named "Tango" by keepers, together as a family.

A Sensationalist Headline,
Over A Couplle Of Male Penguins,
Trying To Hatch A Rock....

What A Cupid Stunts You Are...!!!!!

horseflesh
18-09-2008, 12:47 AM
They certainly do, like teaching 5 year olds about sex.

And you would rather kids were ignorant about sex... so far this hasn't worked. Mothers are getting younger and younger... is this a good thing in your opinion?.

cheeb
18-09-2008, 12:49 AM
.....and here come the shills.

YOU PEOPLE need The truth about GOOD and BAD aids....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNs2mOkKzc

GAYS in the NAVY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPrswLN0Mnc&feature=related

Not Argueing With That,
Satire Has Never Been Better...!!!!!

:)

bendoon
18-09-2008, 12:49 AM
[B]

Cheeb defending the establishment position again, this time its more sickening as you are promoting the depravation of 5 year old children.

And you would rather kids were ignorant about sex... so far this hasn't worked. Mothers are getting younger and younger... is this a good thing in your opinion?.

Mothers are getting younger and younger because they are learning about sex younger and younger.

Typical Marxist response: we taught 12 year olds about sex in school, now they are having children younger so lets start teaching them about sex at 5 years old.

horseflesh
18-09-2008, 12:50 AM
.....and here come the shills.

YOU PEOPLE need The truth about GOOD and BAD aids....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNs2mOkKzcGAYS in the NAVY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPrswLN0Mnc&feature=related

INSULT EDITED OUT

Brasseye is shite and always will be :p

Seems to me you want people to remain ignorant... as young as possible, you're no better than the PTB.

tinmenace
18-09-2008, 12:50 AM
I don't think 5 year olds need to be systematically taught about sex. Period! At the same time I don't think they should be denied answers if they ASK about sex. AND I don't think we should teach them that sex is bad, just to keep them from abstaining.

Sex is a natural thing and we should be allowed to learn it naturally and at our own individual pace. This sort of natural learning should in no way EVER be institutionalized or regulated.

Let's not fuck up these young minds.

horseflesh
18-09-2008, 12:54 AM
I don't think 5 year olds need to be systematically taught about sex. Period! At the same time I don't think they should be denied answers if they ASK about sex. AND I don't think we should teach them that sex is bad, just to keep them from abstaining.

Sex is a natural thing and we should be allowed to learn it naturally and at our own individual pace. This sort of natural learning should in no way EVER be institutionalized or regulated.

Let's not fuck up these young minds.







In my opinion more young minds are fucked up because they are not taught what is natural. I for one learned about sex from my mates at school, who really had no idea what they where talking about. This can only lead to confusion and bullying.

ennui
18-09-2008, 12:56 AM
They're not being taught about sex though are they? It's a book about penguins!!! Get a grip for gawds sake.

cheeb
18-09-2008, 12:56 AM
Cheeb defending the establishment position again, this time its more sickening as you are promoting the degradation of 5 year old children.

Stop Focusing On My Life,
And Start Focusing On Your Own Tragedy...

If Penguin Relationships Displeases You So Much,
Take Your Kids Out Of State School,
And Home School Them Yourself.....!!!!

I Doubt People Like You Have Reproduced Yet Tho....!!!!

Problem Solved...!!!!

:rolleyes:

bendoon
18-09-2008, 12:56 AM
Shill?... go fuck yourself :D

Brasseye is shite and always will be :p

Seems to me you want people to remain ignorant... as young as possible, you're no better than the PTB.

The PTB want to teach them about sex, so its you that are no better than the PTB.

Sex, Morals, Religion are no part of the states authority, these can only be taught by parents as and when the child asks. If the state assumes this responsibility society breaks down as we are witnessing at the present. This is their plan.

bendoon
18-09-2008, 01:00 AM
:

I find your atitude rather sick and depraved, so this is the last time I will respond to your ramblings.

Take Your Kids Out Of State School,
And Home School Them Yourself.....!!!!

Why should people have to take their kids out of state school, which their taxes pay for, just because some sick perverted Marxist wants to corrupt their kids minds.

You really are a loathsome dreg.

They're not being taught about sex though are they? It's a book about penguins!!! Get a grip for gawds sake.

No its not about Penguins, thats just lies by cheeb to make light of the situation.

horseflesh
18-09-2008, 01:01 AM
The PTB want to teach them about sex, so its you that are no better than the PTB.

Sex, Morals, Religion are no part of the states authority, these can only be taught by parents as and when the child asks. If the state assumes this responsibility society breaks down as we are witnessing at the present. This is their plan.

And what if the parents have no idea what they're talking about as they had no education about such matters on sex, morals or religion... wouldn't that lead to a much bigger breakdown of society?.

You have to know what you're talking about before giving advice to others.

cheeb
18-09-2008, 01:04 AM
Why should people have to take their kids out of state school, which their taxes pay for, just because some sick perverted Marxist wants to corrupt their kids minds.

.

You Have Answered Your Own Question There,
But You Can't See That Can You...????

:rolleyes:

cheeb
18-09-2008, 01:18 AM
One Odd Thing Though Bendoon..

The Original Link To The Daily Mail Article...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056415/Teach-pleasure-gay-sex-children-young-say-researchers.html

And The Link To The No Outsider "Think Tank",
They Were Targetting....

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nooutsiders.sunderland.ac.uk/more-images/No%2520Outsiders%2520IoE%2520Exhibition.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.nooutsiders.sunderland.ac.uk/&h=1536&w=2048&sz=1272&hl=en&start=1&um=1&usg=__6F3sX-yjht2hVQ4mmY1j-wUdCsk=&tbnid=2vRqA5p1SaliKM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dno%2Boutsiders%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26r lz%3D1B3GGGL_enGB244GB244%26sa%3DN

It's Gone....

P.C. Madness....!!!!!

horseflesh
18-09-2008, 01:20 AM
Are you gay Bendoon?. Your name seems to suggest so... well at least to people in Scotland ;)

bendoon
18-09-2008, 01:31 AM
Are you gay Bendoon?. Your name seems to suggest so... well at least to people in Scotland ;)

So because I do not want 5 year old kids to be taught about being gay, that means I am gay ?

Oh well, I give in then, you caught me out there. :rolleyes:

horseflesh
18-09-2008, 01:33 AM
So because I do not want 5 year old kids to be taught about being gay, that means I am gay ?

Oh well, I give in then, you caught me out there. :rolleyes:

Nope, you maybe have to learn to read properly, as I certainly did not say that.

Maybe you could answer my post above that.

Or maybe as you say you'll just give in ;)

cheeb
18-09-2008, 01:39 AM
So because I do not want 5 year old kids to be taught about being gay, that means I am gay ?

Oh well, I give in then, you caught me out there. :rolleyes:

You Have No Problem With This Behavoir:

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9808/warsawghettoie6.jpg

Yet You Resent Teaching Tolerance In Schools...

There were no gas chambers, the Russians built them after the war to cover up for their own crimes.



http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1594/romanichildrenmrl6.jpg

Romany Children In Auschwitz.....

I Bet Your Nick At Noon...!!!!

horseflesh
18-09-2008, 01:40 AM
You can't answer it?. No, didn't think so. You seem to want people to remain as ignorant as you are :rolleyes:

horseflesh
18-09-2008, 01:59 AM
What exactly is wrong with "the pleasures of gay sex" anyway?. I think this article says more about the writer than anything else.

monkey
18-09-2008, 02:18 AM
No its not about Penguins, thats just lies by cheeb to make light of the situation.

AGREED. cheeb (trick?), horseflesh , whatshisname and the other one are ALL SHILLS, here to distract and disrupt. This topic is obviously a BIG ONE for them

All those emotive PC terms like "you are against teaching tolerance", post a few emotive pics WAY off topic and implies that If you don't love the homo agenda you are into genocide

Not Argueing With That, Satire Has Never Been Better

SATIRE?

bendoon
18-09-2008, 02:22 AM
AGREED. cheeb (trick?), horseflesh , whatshisname and the other one are ALL SHILLS, here to distract and disrupt. This topic is obviously a BIG ONE for them

The subversion of children by the state is a very big one.

All those emotive PC terms like "you are against teaching tolerance", post a few emotive pics WAY off topic and implies that If you don't love the homo agenda you are into genocide

Yes, if you dont believe in perverting 5 year old kids you are a Nazi,

hahahahaha, so transparent, they must think we fell off the back end of a bus on the way to a SWP meeting.

horseflesh
18-09-2008, 02:26 AM
AGREED. cheeb (trick?), horseflesh , whatshisname and the other one are ALL SHILLS, here to distract and disrupt. This topic is obviously a BIG ONE for them

You are so transparent, answer my question and prove I'm a 'shill'. If no-one is educated about sex then how are the parents supposed to inform their children?. Wouldn't this lead to uninformed people and a "breakdown in society"?

What is so wrong about being educated about sexual matters?. Gay people are here whether you like it or not, and they need to know about sexual matters as much as the next person whether you like it or not.

Your ignorance only makes you appear foolish.

cruise4
18-09-2008, 03:54 AM
Well funny post monkey :D

"And you would rather kids were ignorant about sex... so far this hasn't worked. Mothers are getting younger and younger... is this a good thing in your opinion?."

Like drugs... except they aren't anti-drugs messages they are adverts to create more drug addicts. That's how it works. Its 'advertising'. The reason mothers are getting younger and younger, if they are, is because of the social programming going on with TV and 'acceptance' agendas and 'education', school prescriptions and nurses, no parental involvement, the pill, and the money for kids through welfare program. You are falling for their bullshit here.

If society in every method possible banged on about sex with dogs for 20 years at the end of those years people would be arguing for it being OK. That's how programming works. This is why you cannot be sure what is causing what.

thetonic
18-09-2008, 05:05 AM
You are so transparent, answer my question and prove I'm a 'shill'. If no-one is educated about sex then how are the parents supposed to inform their children?. Wouldn't this lead to uninformed people and a "breakdown in society"?

What is so wrong about being educated about sexual matters?. Gay people are here whether you like it or not, and they need to know about sexual matters as much as the next person whether you like it or not.

Your ignorance only makes you appear foolish.

A 'breakdown in society" .. LOL .. WTF are you talking about dude.. Do you think they had sex ed classes back in the 1700's .. teaching little kids about homo sex?

DONT fucking joke with me .. Thats bullshit ... 100% bullshit mentatlity .. 'Oh , if we dont teach them about homo sex, then they wont know all the pleasures it entails'... GET REAL

This is PURE MIND CONTROL

little kids? SEX education? I dont give a shit about whether gay people are here if you like it or not, fine, go be gay all damn day long.. My kids dont need to know about that or what the word gay even means..

Sexuality is something discovered and expressed in young adulthood(after puberty!), not in five year olds ffs

GO MONKEY!!!

stelios
18-09-2008, 05:36 AM
You can't answer it?. No, didn't think so. You seem to want people to remain as ignorant as you are :rolleyes:

Im an adult and i dont want my children to be taught about gay sex.
Whatever gay sex is.
Im not entirely sure myself

And what the f**k does gay sex have to do with World War II history?
Hitler was aparantly gay but other than that i dont see the purpose of posting those photos.

http://members.aol.com/lupinaccim/1-group-kids.jpg

Heres a photo i would like to be taught in school.
The zionist genocide against arab children.

umbrex
18-09-2008, 06:14 AM
let's try thinking outside the box for a second and consider the possibility of sexuality as such is a social construct ?

none
18-09-2008, 07:18 AM
You previously stated...



So don't get snide. I was simply going on the information YOU gave me.

I was just trying to give some helpful advice to a man who I thought was referring to his OWN need to "get a burd" (it's spelled bird) and that he would make sacrifices "IF it makes it EASIER"

Terribly sorry if I offended you





Nope, you didn't offend me, you gave me the best laugh I had that day. You seem to be very angry about poofters for some reason .... :rolleyes:

kanz
18-09-2008, 07:56 AM
A 'breakdown in society" .. LOL .. WTF are you talking about dude.. Do you think they had sex ed classes back in the 1700's .. teaching little kids about homo sex?

DONT fucking joke with me .. Thats bullshit ... 100% bullshit mentatlity .. 'Oh , if we dont teach them about homo sex, then they wont know all the pleasures it entails'... GET REAL

This is PURE MIND CONTROL

little kids? SEX education? I dont give a shit about whether gay people are here if you like it or not, fine, go be gay all damn day long.. My kids dont need to know about that or what the word gay even means..

Sexuality is something discovered and expressed in young adulthood(after puberty!), not in five year olds ffs

GO MONKEY!!!

To be honest gay means happy or well it used to , the propper term is homo sexual. But I agree children should learn this stuff after puberty . Possibly when they actually have a clue and can understand what is being said to them .

cruise4
18-09-2008, 08:06 AM
Are these articles designed to demonise homosexuals? I think they probably are. They are setting up division again. In which case homosexuals should be the most concerned of all and spearheading the drive to stop this sort of nonsense.

I would guess nearly all of any persuasion can see this is just wrong.

drhemp
18-09-2008, 10:41 AM
It's not just gay sex on the menu ....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/article4776329.ece

seriously, my kid will be 6 in January, and there's no way I would feel the need to teach him this stuff yet, maybe I'll feel different in when he's 10 or 11, fair enough, they go on about teen pregnancy, but 10, 11, or 12, is not yet a teenager, teaching this to a 6 year old is bloody ridiculous.

I'm glad we home educate our children and keep them out of the State system.

monkey
18-09-2008, 11:54 AM
Heres a photo i would like to be taught in school.
The zionist genocide against arab children.

Hardly the time or place for that photo. I understand what you say and it iS important to be aware of such evil but it's a little bit OFF TOPIC. It isnt good to use every thread to raise awareness of what YOU consider we should be discussing.

It has NOTHING to do with this thread

let's try thinking outside REALITY for a second and consider the possibility of sexuality as such is a social construct ?

Good luck with that.

Nope, you didn't offend me, you gave me the best laugh I had that day. :rolleyes:(must......have.......last.....word...)

Well , I don't believe THAT for one second. I thought i told you to drop the SNIDE.

You like using that 'SMUG' emoticon don't you?

SO why did you contradict yourself by implying you were single and then stating the opposite in the next post?

none
18-09-2008, 12:09 PM
Well , I don't believe THAT for one second. I thought i told you to drop the SNIDE.

You like using that 'SMUG' emoticon don't you?

SO why did you contradict yourself by implying you were single and then stating the opposite in the next post?

and who died and left you in charge? *insert 'SNIDE' emoticon here*
.....aaaaand, I didn't contradict myself. I saidNo, I agree with shaving my face to attract women. If it makes it easier to 'get a burd' then what's the harm?
I should have quoted the post I was replying to ... sorry. ..... if shaving my face attracts women then what's the harm? where did I imply that I was single there? .....
I then said that if it makes it easier the 'get a burd' then where's the harm? .... again, where did I imply that I was single?

And, while I'm at it ... adding your own words to a quote is very rude. :rolleyes:

umbrex
18-09-2008, 12:31 PM
Good luck with that.


would u say venturing into conspiratainment would be challenging REALITY ??

mynameis
18-09-2008, 01:24 PM
And what the f**k does gay sex have to do with World War II history?
Hitler was aparantly gay but other than that i dont see the purpose of posting those photos.

Apparently you are unfamiliar with the child psychologists prior to the Third Reich. Parents rearing children were distant and cruel to their offspring in Germany. This is one of the primary reasons which led to cold and callous behavior patterns of the Nazi's and all of Germany toward Europe etc...There were two rearing models, one children were brought up as adult copies of their parents, next if children rebelled they were punished both physically and emotionally. Each parent repressed the growth and exploration of their offspring.

http://primal-page.com/childabu.htm

deckard
18-09-2008, 03:12 PM
More and more reasons it seems, to keep your kids out of government schools.

My first post here, looks like a great interesting site.

drhemp
18-09-2008, 03:29 PM
More and more reasons it seems, to keep your kids out of government schools.

My first post here, looks like a great interesting site.

Hello deckard :-)

deckard
18-09-2008, 03:32 PM
hello Dr Hemp.

stelios
18-09-2008, 05:02 PM
Hardly the time or place for that photo. I understand what you say and it iS important to be aware of such evil but it's a little bit OFF TOPIC. It isnt good to use every thread to raise awareness of what YOU consider we should be discussing.


Yes indeed.
But you dont agree that those World War II pictures were off topic.
Why not?
I for one do not see how you can promote Gay sex by posting up WW2 photos
please explain

mynameis
18-09-2008, 05:05 PM
Yes indeed.
But you dont agree that those World War II pictures were off topic.
Why not?
I for one do not see how you can promote Gay sex by posting up WW2 photos
please explain

Read the link posted in this link.
http://davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=510016&postcount=98

monkey
18-09-2008, 11:27 PM
Yes indeed.
But you dont agree that those World War II pictures were off topic.
Why not?
I for one do not see how you can promote Gay sex by posting up WW2 photos
please explain

ME? WHAT?

Of course the ww2 pictures were off topic and whoever posted Was foolish

I DID NOT POST ANY PICTURES IN THIS THREAD ever so don't imply that I did by adressing your post to me and trying to link my comments with the pictures posted by someone else.

are you confused as to WHO posted WHAT?

deexmx
19-09-2008, 12:05 AM
i think if i have any adult educating my five year old daughter on the joys of sex i will be at court. hopefully i would have a number of people outside the court supporting me.

our children are bombarded with sexual images everywhere and this society seems to approve because we allow it to happen. If the santanists are openly showing their moves it gives them more power when left unchallenged.

Billboards, advertising in bus shelters outside schools, tv ads, kids are subjected to this daily and are desensitized. i believe it is a form of abuse.

friendsinthesky
19-09-2008, 02:18 AM
..and aren't we sounding just like our parents? Well, we are and this means we're getting older, older and wiser! Or are we?

My grandparents would roll in their graves should they see the behaviour of today's teen's.

My granparents parents dressed in cloth from head to toe, no such thought of a bikini being invented. But were they ashamed of nudity? Were they living in their present but infact behind time? No TV back then, awhole lot of lovin goin on when the kids were sleeping, love making was done strictly behind closed doors or a secluded hay stack.

There's NO doubt that we are headed towards the movie 'Idiocracy' if we're not already there, but sex/lovemaking and nudity is NOT something WE should be ashamed of, but child exploitation through magazines, TV, internet etc etc is progress through sinister thoughts.

Yeah, pervets could argue that, the more child nudity on TV soon becomes an everyday occurance and we all get used to it....

...but they're still perverts.

serenevasaline
19-09-2008, 03:49 AM
I think you might find this is already occuring to a certain extent. My friend was telling me about his sisters kid who is 6 or 7, he had returned from school telling her how he had been taught that boys kissing boys and girls kissing girls is totally fine. Now at 6 or 7 you shouldn't really be particularly sexualised let alone decideing if you are gay or not. He had been taught other stuff of a sexual nature also but I can't remember exactly what it was.

I know! that was my exact thought when I read this. I wouldn't want my 5 year old to know about the pleasures of sex between men and women, let alone homosexual lovin. Kid's are less and less being allowed to be children in this society. If it aint Kate Perry singing "I kissed a girl and I liked it, I hope my boyfriend don't mind it" then it's Madonna and Britney kissing or TATU. It's sick. If that kind of media was aimed at adults then fair enough. Wouldn't care. But it's not.
It's not the sexuality I can't tolerate, I love sexuality, hehe, it's the constant subliminal messages to our children that sex is so so important. You must be attractive, you must dress like and look like this. It's creating confusion.

The video responses to that Kate Perry music video on Youtube are mostly (or when I checked last ) under age girls miming or singing along , (there is one where all you can hear is a guy wanking.....=S). If you are kissing girls and liking it then fine, but don't tell all the kids that it's fine to do, and then promote infidelity (hope my bf don't mind) which causes even more problems, Why the hell is no one worried that it might be getting children in to sex/relationships too early in life. I can't believe parents don't stand up against this stuff anymoe.

This thread is just another reason for me to never have children. Which is sad because if it wasn't for the world we live in I would have loads of kids.

lessgov2007
19-09-2008, 07:03 AM
I've heard about this little program before. Perhaps, they are hoping to manufacture homosexual children as a form of population control. It doesn't help that parents stick their children in front of televisions as a substitute parent/baby sitter. In fact, it doesn't help we even send our children to these mind wash schools to begin with.

cheeb
20-09-2008, 12:28 AM
I know! that was my exact thought when I read this. I wouldn't want my 5 year old to know about the pleasures of sex between men and women, let alone homosexual lovin. Kid's are less and less being allowed to be children in this society. If it aint Kate Perry singing "I kissed a girl and I liked it, I hope my boyfriend don't mind it" then it's Madonna and Britney kissing or TATU. It's sick. If that kind of media was aimed at adults then fair enough. Wouldn't care. But it's not.
It's not the sexuality I can't tolerate, I love sexuality, hehe, it's the constant subliminal messages to our children that sex is so so important. You must be attractive, you must dress like and look like this. It's creating confusion.

The video responses to that Kate Perry music video on Youtube are mostly (or when I checked last ) under age girls miming or singing along , (there is one where all you can hear is a guy wanking.....=S). If you are kissing girls and liking it then fine, but don't tell all the kids that it's fine to do, and then promote infidelity (hope my bf don't mind) which causes even more problems, Why the hell is no one worried that it might be getting children in to sex/relationships too early in life. I can't believe parents don't stand up against this stuff anymoe.

This thread is just another reason for me to never have children. Which is sad because if it wasn't for the world we live in I would have loads of kids.

You Are Reacting To Sensationalist Headlines...

Can You Please Tell Me Which School Is Promoting This..???

Because I Will Quite Happily Report This School To The Police....

And Tell Me The Name Of The Teacher,
In The Classroom,
Because He/She Can Be Done For Grooming....

Which School Is Doing This Please........!!!!

serenevasaline
20-09-2008, 01:42 AM
You Are Reacting To Sensationalist Headlines...

Can You Please Tell Me Which School Is Promoting This..???

Because I Will Quite Happily Report This School To The Police....

And Tell Me The Name Of The Teacher,
In The Classroom,
Because He/She Can Be Done For Grooming....

Which School Is Doing This Please........!!!!

Errr...i didn't start the thread. maybe you should ask whoever did. I am simply rambling on about how much I hate the fact that media is confusing kids minds.

killmicrosoft
20-09-2008, 02:48 AM
Recommendation 5

Government should make Personal, Social and Health Education (PSHE) a
statutory subject at all key stages, and ensure it is also delivered in non-school

settings so that all children and young people get good quality Sex and
Relationships Education (SRE).

The Government’s current review of SRE should:
��Embed SRE into the statutory entitlement of the promotion of well-being
and subsequent indicators

��Provide new revised SRE guidance which is explicit in saying what should be

taught and learnt at each key stage from primary through to secondary and
further education

��Place SRE within the context of PSHE and the development of knowledge
and emotional and social skills needed for life now and in preparation for
adulthood - this would involve a realistic focus on children and young
people’s lives which includes alcohol, drugs, mental health and risk taking
��State clearly that all schools including faith schools must teach all aspects of SRE

within the context of relationships in an anti-discriminatory way; contraception,
abortion and homosexuality are all legal in this country and therefore all
children and young people should be able to learn the correct facts
��State clearly the role and responsibilities of PCTs as well as other children’s

services in visiting schools and supporting and contributing to SRE
��Secure children and young people’s participation and leadership in the
policy and practice development of SRE through effective participation, for
instance by using the SRE pupil audit tool developed by Sex Education
Forum and DCSF to see if SRE meets pupils’ needs

��Make explicit links to young people’s advisory services and provision of
contraception and sexual health services and demonstrate this by teaching
young people how to access servicesSex and relationship education


http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/research/data/uploadfiles/RR594.pdf

killmicrosoft
20-09-2008, 03:06 AM
By the end of Key Stage 4 up to age 16, young people, building on the Sex
and Relationship Education they have already had will have had opportunities
to talk about the importance of sexual identity, lesbian, gay, heterosexual and
bisexual relationships including:

• Learning about the right to sexual expression and managing relationships

• Discussing emotional aspects of sex and relationships

• Talking about the potential for pleasure and enjoyment in sex and
relationships

• Discussing ways to respond to pressure and ‘Am I ready’?

• Practising talking about sex and contraception, e.g. using scenarios
negotiating what they want when they have a sexual relationship

• Receiving accurate information about the full range of contraceptives,
including EHC (emergency hormonal contraception), how to use them and
where to get them.

• Receiving accurate information about sexually transmitted infections, what to
do to avoid infection and where to go for advice and treatment.

• Discussing choices related to parenthood and fertility, based on accurate
information e.g. pregnancy decision making and IVF

• Receiving accurate information about the range of local services both
statutory and voluntary which offer advice support and treatment around
relationships, sexuality and sexual activity

• Information about their right to confidentiality and safeguarding

• Discussion on ways of challenging name-calling, including names linked to
sexual identity

http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/wwwfileroot/microsites/childrensservices/mcs_Sex_Relationship_Education_Strategy_Booklet.pd f

http://www.schools-out.org.uk/policy/docs/Sexuality%20-%20The%20New%20Agenda.pdf

http://www.schools-out.org.uk/policy/docs/Guidanceonnewmeasurestooutlawdiscriminationonthegr oundsofsexualorientationPart3t_id1510103.pdf