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graflok
09-05-2007, 06:00 PM
CNN reports:
"In TV's worst spring in recent memory, a startling number of Americans drifted
away from television the past two months: More than 2.5 million fewer people
were watching ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox than at the same time last year,
statistics show."

story link (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/09/tv.missingviewers.ap/index.html)

graflok

turquoisefyre
09-05-2007, 06:22 PM
tv sucks ass,
bog time.

i've noticed how difficult it is to watch anything worthwhile since 2000 began.

hagbard_celine
09-05-2007, 06:55 PM
I moved house a year ago and now live in a small room with no access to TV set. The communal TV is always being used by someone else. I'm surprised how little I've missed it!

yinjing
09-05-2007, 09:16 PM
I've been TV free for a year and I can honestly say I've not missed it all.
Can't wait to see if the trend continues? Image if it became trendy not to watch TV. What could that do to a population?

amadeus
09-05-2007, 10:36 PM
I've been TV-free since January, It's wonderful! It all started one day when watching '24' - couldn't take that incredible propaganda-s*it anymore... :mad:

chattanova
09-05-2007, 10:45 PM
The internet is taking over and thats real good news :D

phoenixchilde
10-05-2007, 12:12 AM
The internet is taking over and thats real good news :D

I agree that the internet is taking over, but I don't agree that's good news. Look at how many teenagers now are communicating online instead of in person. The internet is de-humanizing our youth. That ain't good.

anoninnyc
10-05-2007, 05:20 AM
yes we are become socially retarded. also video games are replacing tv.

umbrex
10-05-2007, 02:13 PM
....now they do internets........

chattanova
10-05-2007, 04:31 PM
I agree that the internet is taking over, but I don't agree that's good news. Look at how many teenagers now are communicating online instead of in person. The internet is de-humanizing our youth. That ain't good.

Thats true . But I was more thinking of whats on TV is controlled and what is shown is what 'they' want you to see.

On the internet 'they' have no control, and people can choose for themselves what information they will take in.
Without the internet I'm sure I would think everything in the world is as it's shown on the news etc.

turquoisefyre
10-05-2007, 06:42 PM
i'm really tv-free for the last 8 years. save a bit of watching here and there, playing a few computer games here and there.
i'm just hoping when tv changes to someting more worthwhile, the positive powers comming into control, would help create monitors and screens that doesn't hypnotise you, cause eye trouble or cause autism.

father ted
10-05-2007, 08:28 PM
I agree that the internet is taking over, but I don't agree that's good news. Look at how many teenagers now are communicating online instead of in person. The internet is de-humanizing our youth. That ain't good.

How dare you speak ill of the internet:mad: :D

It's up to you what you look up or do on the net, where as tv you had no choice, other than to turn it off. Besides, why need tv when you've got this:
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/

soundthief
10-05-2007, 10:06 PM
i stopped actively watching tv a few years ago

only time i watch telly is for football or if im at a mates


and i agree about youths feeding on the internet. i was the same years ago but im so sick of it, even when im done checking my regular things like email, ebay, myspace, footy and music forums i still feel compelled to find things to look at!

i need the net right now for college work but once its done im turning in my wireless card to somebody that lives a distance away not too easy to get to for the whole summer. im sure i can make do with the odd peek at the net at a mates and just my phone.

mcmenek1
11-05-2007, 12:28 AM
CNN reports:
"In TV's worst spring in recent memory, a startling number of Americans drifted
away from television the past two months: More than 2.5 million fewer people
were watching ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox than at the same time last year,
statistics show."

story link (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/09/tv.missingviewers.ap/index.html)

graflok

Hi graflok,

People watching less TV can only be a good thing.......the TV has probably been the greatest mind control device ever invented the people who believe what they watch live in a totally false reality.......the TV also shuts you down vibrationally with all the negativity that’s portrayed on there.

I've stopped watching the TV as it really is.......an insult to your intelligence.

Thanks for posting graflok.......:)

Love
&
Peace












:)

notaslave
11-05-2007, 01:34 AM
Excellent news, I hope as many are staying away from newspapers too, as they only print celebrity drivel or are state mouthpeices.

auron
11-05-2007, 01:56 AM
Excellent news, I hope as many are staying away from newspapers too, as they only print celebrity drivel or are state mouthpeices.

I like to take a fleeting glance at the newspapers front pages every morning when i go to the shop. They amuse me, because they are so full of shit!

kromagg
11-05-2007, 02:57 PM
Besides, why need tv when you've got this:
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/

If it was full-screen, that place would be virtual heaven...

phoenixchilde
12-05-2007, 01:40 AM
i'm really tv-free for the last 8 years. save a bit of watching here and there, playing a few computer games here and there.
i'm just hoping when tv changes to someting more worthwhile, the positive powers comming into control, would help create monitors and screens that doesn't hypnotise you, cause eye trouble or cause autism.

Umm, you know that computer screen cause glaucoma, right? Ther stereotype of the geek wearing his glasses in front of a computer is more than just a stereotype.

phoenixchilde
12-05-2007, 01:43 AM
How dare you speak ill of the internet:mad: :D

It's up to you what you look up or do on the net, where as tv you had no choice, other than to turn it off. Besides, why need tv when you've got this:
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/

Are you kidding? With just 50 channels I have a lot of choice. Considering that satellite and digital cable give far more choices, I think the TV is no more controlling than the internet. Any old idiot can post absolutely anything on the internet, and people can/will believe it. So here's the question, is false information from a 16 year old in his parent's basement worse than false information from the TV? I tend to think that false is false, who cares who it's coming from.

phenylamine
12-05-2007, 07:19 AM
Only problem is, how long do you really think the internet will stay free?, not much longer is my guess.They will turn their attention this way and then the internet will become their tool, possibly even more powerful than tv was.Not to mention it will be much easier to track what your up to through the internet.Peace.

"those who would give up essential liberties for the sake of temporary saftey deserve niether liberty nor saftey"

father ted
12-05-2007, 07:23 AM
Are you kidding? With just 50 channels I have a lot of choice. Considering that satellite and digital cable give far more choices, I think the TV is no more controlling than the internet. Any old idiot can post absolutely anything on the internet, and people can/will believe it. So here's the question, is false information from a 16 year old in his parent's basement worse than false information from the TV? I tend to think that false is false, who cares who it's coming from.

False info from person x is just that, where as false info on tv has hidden and more sinister motives behind it.

You conveniently forgot to ask the same question regarding true info, or unbaised info, freedom of speech, broader demoghraphic, list goes on...

50 or so channels is nothing compared to how many web pages? torrents? google vids? utube? http://www.tv-links.co.uk/?

oh, I get it, you're having me on:o shit, I should've known.

father ted
12-05-2007, 07:29 AM
If it was full-screen, that place would be virtual heaven...

Hahaha

Sell you're tv and buy a bigger monitor(do they still call 'em that?) You can still strech it out. For me it was bliss, but now I've used up my 20 gigs for the month (in two weeks) thanks to that website. Can't wait to continue watching blackadder:D

phoenixchilde
12-05-2007, 11:05 PM
You conveniently forgot to ask the same question regarding true info, or unbaised info, freedom of speech, broader demoghraphic, list goes on...

No, but you forgot to ask about that on television. Aside from the numerous choices in news stations, including the amateur local news, there's television show creators like JM Straczynski, Francis Ford Coppola, and Tim Kring who use the television to hide subtle messages of wisdom and truth and bring them to a large audience.

Of course, I'm sure you're going to tell me that EVERYTHING on the TV is coming from the same bias, and being controlled by the same people. Save me the headache, and don't bother. You've just been brainwashed into thinking that the internet is the saviour of mankind because as long as you're sitting behind the computer, you're no threat to the people in power.

phenylamine had a point, but unfortunately, the internet was a tool of control when it was first created. It just sucks in all the people who have a thirst for knowledge, and it makes them pliable. Combine that with the fact that computer use is actually detrimental to human health, both on a physican and energetic level, it's a very deadly weapon.

graflok
13-05-2007, 03:31 AM
television show creators like JM Straczynski, Francis Ford Coppola, and Tim Kring who use the television to hide subtle messages of wisdom and truth and bring them to a large audience.


What subtle messages of wisdom and truth have they hidden?


graflok

mikeproteau
13-05-2007, 04:39 AM
I've been TV-free since January, It's wonderful! It all started one day when watching '24' - couldn't take that incredible propaganda-s*it anymore... :mad:

I totally know what you mean, the total onslaught of hospital/law shows year after year...the government conditioning is incredible

phoenixchilde
13-05-2007, 08:56 PM
What subtle messages of wisdom and truth have they hidden?

Too many to list. Francis Ford Coppola did a TV show called First Wave. The beauty of that one is that the show looked so corny on the surface that barely anyone would have the sense to notice the messages hidden within. For starters, he spent a great deal of time pointing out that our society is shallow and how easy it would be for "a reptilian alien species" to infiltrate our society.

JM Straczynski(god I hope I'm spelling that right) created Babylon 5. A lot of hidden knowledge about the nature of the universe, good and evil, and others. Take a look.

http://www-astro.physics.ox.ac.uk/~rmb/allB5.html

As for Tim Kring, most people don't realize the changes that are happening to the human race right now, and he's putting it right in front of everyone's eyes.

phoenixchilde
13-05-2007, 08:59 PM
I totally know what you mean, the total onslaught of hospital/law shows year after year...the government conditioning is incredible

Oh god, tell me about it. Law and Order used to be a cool show, now it's just getting lame. And CSI is like the Starschmucks of TV, just came out of nowhere, and now it's everywhere.

laid back mac
14-05-2007, 01:56 AM
I find some people can get so very uppity about TV. Yes, it's a vehicle for programming, but so are books. No, you are probably not a better person for abstaining from ever watching anything to have graced a TV screen, so shuv the self-rightous attitude please. :rolleyes:

Saying that, I hardly ever watch it. It's the adverts, mostly. Rarely will I sit down to watch a show, like Battlestar Galactica, as those damned fuckers just utterly distract me from it. Plus, I prefer having an entire season in my hands on discs, so that I have the freedom to set my own tempo, rather than go with the weekly broadcast standerd.

laid back mac
14-05-2007, 01:59 AM
Yeah, Babylon 5 has all kinds of symbology, myth, satire, social commentery ect. written into it. But it's been many years since I last watched it, and memory's a little forgetfull I'm afraid.

"Now, get the HELL out of our galaxy!!"

:D

graflok
14-05-2007, 03:34 AM
Francis Ford Coppola did a TV show called First Wave. The beauty of that one is that the show looked so corny on the surface that barely anyone would have the sense to notice the messages hidden within. For starters, he spent a great deal of time pointing out that our society is shallow and how easy it would be for "a reptilian alien species" to infiltrate our society.

JM Straczynski(god I hope I'm spelling that right) created Babylon 5. A lot of hidden knowledge about the nature of the universe, good and evil, and others. Take a look.



Then the messages weren't hidden, were they?

I don't think you know what 'hidden' means.

Get a clue, man.

Coppola is illuminati from his greasy head to his stinky toes. I met him
once. Had dinner at his house in San Francisco, in fact, back in the 70's.
He's a major purveyor of the NWO agenda and so are his buddies Spielberg
and Lucas.



graflok

phoenixchilde
14-05-2007, 03:43 AM
Yeah, Babylon 5 has all kinds of symbology, myth, satire, social commentery ect. written into it. But it's been many years since I last watched it, and memory's a little forgetfull I'm afraid.

"Now, get the HELL out of our galaxy!!"

:D

Tell me about it. and with the DVD sets being so expensive, yikes.

laid back mac
14-05-2007, 03:51 AM
Tell me about it. and with the DVD sets being so expensive, yikes.


http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/728392/Babylon-5-Series-1-Box-Set/Product.html

Seems a pretty standerd price to me. Maybe they cost more wherever you are.

Sometimes I think Michael took a few creative liberties, like in season 4, when the space gods, the forerunners, returned. There was this one episode where Sheridan and Delenn are out cruising in the White Star, they meet this etheric entity that's basically the Eye of Suaron. "The Dark Eye of so and so!!!", Delenn says, all breathless.

phoenixchilde
14-05-2007, 03:52 AM
Then the messages weren't hidden, were they?

I don't think you know what 'hidden' means.

Get a clue, man.

I don't know dude, maybe I'll answer you when you can make a reply without trying to insult me. You do realize that your ego, the part that causes you to look down on others is part of their programming? They don't want you to be nice to other people. Divided they fall, and all that.

laid back mac
14-05-2007, 04:06 AM
Coppola is illuminati from his greasy head to his stinky toes. I met him
once. Had dinner at his house in San Francisco, in fact, back in the 70's.
He's a major purveyor of the NWO agenda and so are his buddies Spielberg
and Lucas.


That reminds me of this photo:

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3136/lucaseisnermaxwellju2.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Pretty trippy, huh?

If you don't mind discussing it, what makes you say those guys are snakes through and through? What was meeting FFC like?

graflok
14-05-2007, 04:27 AM
I don't know dude, maybe I'll answer you when you can make a reply without trying to insult me.


I'm in no hurry.


You do realize that your ego, the part that causes you to look down on others is part of their programming?

I'm not looking down on others. I'm looking down on you.


They don't want you to be nice to other people.

Then why don't you be nice and stop trying to disrupt threads?


graflok

graflok
14-05-2007, 04:33 AM
If you don't mind discussing it, what makes you say those guys are snakes through and through?

Their movies make me say that. It's my opinion. Yours may differ.


What was meeting FFC like?

He's arrogant beyond belief and sees himself as a higher life form than mere humans.

graflok

laid back mac
14-05-2007, 05:07 AM
Their movies make me say that. It's my opinion. Yours may differ.

Yes, and that's allright. There's nothing wrong with that.

He's arrogant beyond belief and sees himself as a higher life form than mere humans.

graflok

Is there any particular reason you remind us of your name everytime you make a post? Are you worried we might forget?

laid back mac
14-05-2007, 05:33 AM
This video reminds of Babylon 5, LOL: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

markhowie
14-05-2007, 08:36 AM
Aloha all
for one ive been off tv for some 25 years, i never realy got into the plug in drug

one good thing that has come out of tv is the capacity to dream and imagin, what i mean by that is a hundread years ago alot of people couldent read or right, or even a couple of hundred years ago nealy no one (in the heard) could read or write and therefor had very limited capacity for imagination, once in a while a story teller would come around and make peoples imaginations work, radio like books and even that awfull telly have helped people to be able to imagine and there for as we all know create this so called reality around us
Yes ok for now this is not one that is for our higher good of all
and
the capacity to imagine and focus then create is so mutch more possible..... that is why and how they manipulate the creation of what they want us to be/live
and as i have said they have taught people how to imagine there telly reality into existance,
so............................................

for me the world is what you think it is...... if you think it is dangerous then it is and you will attract those experiences into your life.....
everything starts in the dreemtime....
what dreams are you dreaming into reality..?


As for the internet it is the begining of the end for all these controling familys of the world...
since +/- 1999 there has been an explosion of knollage around the world, just about any information/knollage is available to just about anyone enywhere in this world (physical)
they have realised there mistake and are trying to control the information that is passed on the net , and it is to late
the info is out


got to fly

as the fear flows away
and the collective memory returns
love to all that is
mark

graflok
14-05-2007, 04:01 PM
Is there any particular reason you remind us of your name everytime you make a post? Are you worried we might forget?

Is there a reason your avatar shows a nude woman sitting on a man's lap?
Are you worried we might think you're gay?

graflok

thedame
14-05-2007, 04:39 PM
Can everyone stop being so defensive please?

Graflok, take it easy please. I don't think phoenixchilde really deserves the minor-league vitriol you're hurling at him.

laid back mac, what's your problem with graflok putting his name at the bottom of his message? Is it really worth mentioning it in order to create a bit of friction?

chill out, like.
thedame

graflok
14-05-2007, 04:51 PM
Graflok, take it easy please. I don't think phoenixchilde really deserves the minor-league vitriol you're hurling at him.


Minor-league? I'll have you know my vitriol is first class, grade A, certified.
Nothing but the best for the weasels and trolls, I always say. :)

FTITCTAJ :p

graflok

thedame
14-05-2007, 04:59 PM
heaven forbid I would insinuate that you couldn't insult with the best of them.. :p

I just meant that it wasn't strong enough to warrant an official warning... I'm sure you're more than capable of stronger stuff!

thedame

laid back mac
15-05-2007, 01:01 AM
Can everyone stop being so defensive please?

Graflok, take it easy please. I don't think phoenixchilde really deserves the minor-league vitriol you're hurling at him.

laid back mac, what's your problem with graflok putting his name at the bottom of his message?

Silly goose, I don't have one.

Is it really worth mentioning it in order to create a bit of friction?

Was sending me a private message, a Spam Alert, really worth the effort to do the same? Not that I feel friction myself, and in fact, I think you are projecting.

chill out, like.
thedame

NO U.

Allright, to save myself from being banned or suspended, I will now put this topic to rest, unless of course you feel able to talk to me without taking administritave action for doing so. But like I said, I'll leave this alone now.

Laid Back Mac.

laid back mac
15-05-2007, 01:08 AM
Is there a reason your avatar shows a nude woman sitting on a man's lap?
Are you worried we might think you're gay?

graflok

You are correct sir.

laid back mac
15-05-2007, 01:51 AM
Allright. Graflok, TheDame, here:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3143/wtfvy4.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Consider it a peace offering. Consider it a symbolic gesture that we are square now. Cool?

graflok
15-05-2007, 02:00 AM
I just meant that it wasn't strong enough to warrant an official warning...

thedame

So, this is an unofficial warning?

Like if I'm driving at the speed limit and a cop pulls me over to tell me I'm almost speeding?

If I broke a rule, give me a warning or whatever. Otherwise, I think your comments are inappropriate, thedame.

graflok

john white
15-05-2007, 03:04 AM
Allright. Graflok, TheDame, here:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3143/wtfvy4.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Consider it a peace offering. Consider it a symbolic gesture that we are square now. Cool?


LOL! I've used that one a few times!

And its soooo true

john white
15-05-2007, 03:05 AM
The fall off in TV is no accident

And its proportional in the rise of consciousness:

People want to Live!

auron
15-05-2007, 03:08 AM
LMAO! Thats a great animated gif! :D

laid back mac
15-05-2007, 03:22 AM
The fall off in TV is no accident

And its proportional in the rise of consciousness:

People want to Live!

The hardcore flasher is correct, I beleive.

rhebe
15-05-2007, 03:39 AM
I haven't had a tv with regular access for nearly five years....More so for my children's sake as it is well proven how tv, playstations & the like, interfere with their brain development. I do limit their computer time eg, every other day & then 1 hour is the usual max. They are allowed to watch a video every couple of weeks,& then a bit more in the holidays. All & all it works for us & they both love (to try)to read even at age 4 & 6.It worries me though that I have to "control" them, because at any time they come across a tv, they automatically latch onto it.But maybe I'm expecting too much as a mother!:p

auron
15-05-2007, 03:48 AM
I haven't had a tv with regular access for nearly five years....More so for my children's sake as it is well proven how tv, playstations & the like, interfere with their brain development. I do limit their computer time eg, every other day & then 1 hour is the usual max. They are allowed to watch a video every couple of weeks,& then a bit more in the holidays. All & all it works for us & they both love (to try)to read even at age 4 & 6.It worries me though that I have to "control" them, because at any time they come across a tv, they automatically latch onto it.But maybe I'm expecting too much as a mother!:p

Welcome to the forum Rhebe :)

I think you are right what you are doing. Too much TV corrupts the minds of young children and cripples their ability to think properly. I'd personally have no TV whatsoever, and encourage the young ones to engage in a meaningful discussion instead!

It's nice to hear that yours are reading at that age. I personally know fully grown adults that can't read at all - but they'd rather sit in front of a TV all day, and learn nothing!

Auron :)

phoenixchilde
15-05-2007, 04:25 AM
http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/728392/Babylon-5-Series-1-Box-Set/Product.html

Seems a pretty standerd price to me. Maybe they cost more wherever you are.

Holy cow, that's half the price of what it is around here. It would probably be cheaper to get someone in the UK to buy it and ship it across the ocean.

Sometimes I think Michael took a few creative liberties, like in season 4, when the space gods, the forerunners, returned. There was this one episode where Sheridan and Delenn are out cruising in the White Star, they meet this etheric entity that's basically the Eye of Suaron. "The Dark Eye of so and so!!!", Delenn says, all breathless.

He's fully admitted that Lord of the Rings was his biggest influence. *cough*Rangers*cough* It was a little cheesy from time to time. Especially when I think back to the pilot episode.

phoenixchilde
15-05-2007, 04:27 AM
The fall off in TV is no accident

And its proportional in the rise of consciousness:

People want to Live!

More people playing sports, and more kids playing in the street, I like that thought.

phoenixchilde
15-05-2007, 04:32 AM
Then why don't you be nice and stop trying to disrupt threads?

I'm posting responses to the threads that exist. I'm trying to create new ideas, and pass along my thoughts to others. If you don't like my ideas and thoughts, don't read them.

graflok
15-05-2007, 04:35 AM
If you don't like my ideas and thoughts, don't read them.

And, if you don't like my replies ... :)

phoenixchilde
15-05-2007, 04:47 AM
And, if you don't like my replies ... :)

Touche

auron
15-05-2007, 04:53 AM
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3522/aezorrorg2.gif

druggalo
27-05-2011, 02:08 PM
what happend tah mustard walrus

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

saty
27-05-2011, 03:30 PM
I stopped watching TV recently and it feels GREAT!!!
IT's now all propaganda and dizinfo.

pilgrim
27-05-2011, 03:47 PM
I said goodbye to the "One-Eyed Guru" many years ago. TV is bad for you!

dude111
27-05-2011, 11:38 PM
With almost nothing but garbage on TV,i understand why!

ruddd
27-05-2011, 11:55 PM
I gave up on TV about 2 years ago. The same recycled crap daily (especially soap wise with the writers thinking its their job to tell the public how to socialise, behave around others than provide a actual storyline.)

Then needless to say the absolute sh.tfest that's become the BBC where Tornado damage is replaced instead by this farce of a Royal Visit and Wedding (hundreds dead/injured/displaced yet precedense of a few individuals is the main priority, followed by reruns of it all..sickening.)
Even today with the Spanish demonstrators being beaten in their masses, this Ratko Mladic dominates the headlines. I understand it was genocide what he committed but you simply cannot ignore a suppressed revolution happening in a European country hundreds of miles away. Its justifies yet another reason why I continue to stick to 'Computer Journalism' these days and do it on my own.

That and i'm fed up of x-factor, bgt, one show, holby city, waterloo road replacing the fantastic shows of the 90s like Strange But True, Fortean TV, X-Files, Lone Gunmen, even (dare i say it) Most Haunted.

copland
28-05-2011, 01:02 AM
Threw mine out last year, and I'm a lot more chilled out. No more getting stressed out at all that bullshit propaganda they palm off as news and entertainment. Couldn't stomach paying those parasitic pervs at the BBC £6 a week when I don't watch any of their shit at all. I spend it on mobile pay as you go internet for my 17" widescreen laptop instead, it's just like a personal internet TV.

I remember when I was a kid old people used to prattle on about how things where different in their day, and they were a lot happier. I know what they mean now.

What they mean to say is when they were young TV hadn't been invented, and they got their news from the pathe news reels at the saturday morning cinema, as such they weren't bothered about shit happening half way around the world, because it wasn't being blasted into their living rooms within minutes.

I honestly haven't cared a toss about any of the disasters that everyone else on the forum gets stressed out over (fukushima etc.), because I haven't been watching it, and I'm a lot happier for it.