View Full Version : What is Deja Vu?
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 05:38 AM
We've all had it. What do you think it is?
tattooverb
16-09-2008, 05:39 AM
past lives peaking through
notthisshitagain
16-09-2008, 05:39 AM
When I was younger, there was a period in my life when I thought that everything I had lived till then was "rehearsed", like if I was some sort of actress. At that time, I thought that was "deja vu".
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 05:42 AM
past lives peaking through
When it happens to me, it's not remembering something from the past that I've forgotten, it's a sense that what I'm doing right here and now has been done before, and sometimes I know exactly what someone else is about to say.
More like Groundhog Day than memories of a past life.
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 05:43 AM
When I was younger, there was a period in my life when I thought that everything I had lived till then was "rehearsed", like if I was some sort of actress. At that time, I thought that was "deja vu".
So what do you think that means?
notthisshitagain
16-09-2008, 06:02 AM
I'm not sure... but I think it was my intuition trying to tell me something.. at the time that happened, I had not "waken up" yet.. so maybe that could be it, but I'm not 100% sure about that.
cleft_asunder
16-09-2008, 09:08 AM
Temporary and brief disconnection from the subject identity experience (your body, your soul which itself is another body) and the re-experiencing of consciousness being conscious of itself. In other words a brief and limited re-identification with oneness, which itself is all knowing. From that point of view, all is deja-vu --all is familiar.
deafbred
16-09-2008, 09:14 AM
have i posted on this thread before...
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 11:13 AM
Temporary and brief disconnection from the subject identity experience (your body, your soul which itself is another body) and the re-experiencing of consciousness being conscious of itself. In other words a brief and limited re-identification with oneness, which itself is all knowing. From that point of view, all is deja-vu --all is familiar.
Very interesting interpretation cleft.
Do you think consciousness steps outside of the ego identity in those moments and views the ego identity from a perception of no time? Please elaborate on your theory.
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 11:15 AM
have i posted on this thread before...
For some reason I knew you were going to say that.
robindean
16-09-2008, 11:19 AM
I agree, its something to do with other realities of ourselves peeking into this one. If that makes sense?
anahata
16-09-2008, 12:43 PM
I've experienced some very strange Deja Vu!! Imagine time as a reel of film, each motion is 'frozen' in terms of stillness of photons. In this way you can imagine life as a series of still images stuck together like a flip book. Imagine then that at one frame you are able to flick back to a previous frame for just an instance and change something tiny which will only have a minute change to the (future) 'present time'. In short, I think it is a form or time travel, whereby you have experienced that moment before but only because you have just gone and created it in the past.
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 12:54 PM
I've experienced some very strange Deja Vu!! Imagine time as a reel of film, each motion is 'frozen' in terms of stillness of photons. In this way you can imagine life as a series of still images stuck together like a flip book. Imagine then that at one frame you are able to flick back to a previous frame for just an instance and change something tiny which will only have a minute change to the (future) 'present time'. In short, I think it is a form or time travel, whereby you have experienced that moment before but only because you have just gone and created it in the past.
Wow. Deja Vu is a very mysterious and familiar sensation when you're going through it. Something about what you just said seems uncannily familiar to me.
phaid
16-09-2008, 12:57 PM
On this subject of deja vu I recommend checking out somebody who has written a book (the second is just about to be published) about the subject of what happens to us when we die.
He's called Anthony Peake and he has a website here -
http://www.anthonypeake.com/
and a blog here -
http://cheatingtheferryman.blogspot.com/
I'm reading his book 'Is There Life After Death - The Extraordinary Science of What Happens When You Die' at the moment and I am finding it very interesting. Sounds a bit New Age-y from the title but it's more like hard science mixed with metaphysical speculation.
He's put forward a theory based on scientifically proven experiments (mainly in the field of quantum physics), that looks at the idea that when a person 'dies' they may actually re-live their lives again from memories which appear to be so real that they cannot tell the difference between the memory and the life they have led.
We may all be reliving lives that have taken place in slightly different self-created holographic universes without knowing it except for the occasional 'glitch' in the programme. The 'glitch' in 'The Matrix' which Neo sees in the film (the black cat) may be an example of this kind of 'deja vu' - and may actually be a memory of something that has already happened before and is being experienced again. The idea in 'Groundhog Day' that we're running through our lives again and again outside linear time in order to 'tweak' them into what we want them to be features heavily in the book.
He also looks at the experiences of people who suffer from Temporal Lobe Epilepsy who say that they can sometimes see episodes from the near future (or are re-living an experience they have already had) when they have an attack.
You can watch him giving a talk on YouTube starting here -
Anthony Peake - Is There Life After Death? (1 of 9) - YouTube
(The sound is a bit crap, unfortunately)
tejas
16-09-2008, 02:49 PM
I remember an interview with ndeer mellen-thomas-benedict and he said that de ja vu is us remembering on the quantum level what we have already done, apparently everything has already happened on the quantum level, we have already lived our lives etc and dejavu is remembering this.
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 02:56 PM
phaid, you're a legend. Thanks for that info. :D
anahata
16-09-2008, 03:00 PM
Wow. Deja Vu is a very mysterious and familiar sensation when you're going through it. Something about what you just said seems uncannily familiar to me.
It is the only way I can interpret it from some of my experiences of deja vu. I have discussed this with someone else who agrees it is somehow linked to time travel.
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 03:11 PM
It is the only way I can interpret it from some of my experiences of deja vu. I have discussed this with someone else who agrees it is somehow linked to time travel.
It has a certain feeling of that to it, sometimes, yes.
phaid
16-09-2008, 05:52 PM
phaid, you're a legend. Thanks for that info. :D
Happy to oblige, it's a radical theory that seems to ring true if you reckon that you've been this way before maybe several times, the idea of being an 'old soul' rather than a recent incarnation.
tejas
16-09-2008, 05:52 PM
On this subject of deja vu I recommend checking out somebody who has written a book (the second is just about to be published) about the subject of what happens to us when we die.
He's called Anthony Peake and he has a website here -
http://www.anthonypeake.com/
and a blog here -
http://cheatingtheferryman.blogspot.com/
I'm reading his book 'Is There Life After Death - The Extraordinary Science of What Happens When You Die' at the moment and I am finding it very interesting. Sounds a bit New Age-y from the title but it's more like hard science mixed with metaphysical speculation.
He's put forward a theory based on scientifically proven experiments (mainly in the field of quantum physics), that looks at the idea that when a person 'dies' they may actually re-live their lives again from memories which appear to be so real that they cannot tell the difference between the memory and the life they have led.
We may all be reliving lives that have taken place in slightly different self-created holographic universes without knowing it except for the occasional 'glitch' in the programme. The 'glitch' in 'The Matrix' which Neo sees in the film (the black cat) may be an example of this kind of 'deja vu' - and may actually be a memory of something that has already happened before and is being experienced again. The idea in 'Groundhog Day' that we're running through our lives again and again outside linear time in order to 'tweak' them into what we want them to be features heavily in the book.
He also looks at the experiences of people who suffer from Temporal Lobe Epilepsy who say that they can sometimes see episodes from the near future (or are re-living an experience they have already had) when they have an attack.
You can watch him giving a talk on YouTube starting here -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-qaZdpdjb0&feature=related
(The sound is a bit crap, unfortunately)
very interesting, im not sure of his theory of eternal return tho, or more specifically does he mean that we live our lives over and over again for eternity? that would be horrific!
cleft_asunder
16-09-2008, 05:59 PM
Very interesting interpretation cleft.
Do you think consciousness steps outside of the ego identity in those moments and views the ego identity from a perception of no time? Please elaborate on your theory.
Yes but I don't know why it happends because I gain nothing from it. It just freaks me out because it's like everything is a repeat. And I have been having deja-vu more often than usual recently. I wonder if that stuff about the Time Loop is true. That's the question I want answered.
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 06:02 PM
Yes but I don't know why it happends because I gain nothing from it. It just freaks me out because it's like everything is a repeat. And I have been having deja-vu more often than usual recently. I wonder if that stuff about the Time Loop is true. That's the question I want answered.
How often does it happen to you? With me, it''s very rarely - about 6 months ago was the last time it happened, for about 30 seconds.
I love it. I wish it would happen more.
biblegirl
16-09-2008, 06:03 PM
I remember an interview with ndeer mellen-thomas-benedict and he said that de ja vu is us remembering on the quantum level what we have already done, apparently everything has already happened on the quantum level, we have already lived our lives etc and dejavu is remembering this.
That is what I've always thought it was. It is spooky. Do the rest of you take time to react to dejavu? Like usually when it is happening to me I have to stop what I am doing and stay quiet to think it over. If I am in the middle of a converstion with someone, they almost have to snap me back into reality because I am perplexed and lost in my own little world...
disorder2k8
16-09-2008, 06:05 PM
most of us do a repeat of something every day, like working or other regular rouines, i dont know what the difference is when we get a piece of repeating events that make us feel spooky about it, maybe its the length of time between them or the amount of alike events in the same sequence.
ie, it has a threshold, say 4 events in the same order. can be seen a bit like synchronistic type events
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 06:06 PM
That is what I've always thought it was. It is spooky. Do the rest of you take time to react to dejavu? Like usually when it is happening to me I have to stop what I am doing and stay quiet to think it over. If I am in the middle of a converstion with someone, they almost have to snap me back into reality because I am perplexed and lost in my own little world...
Exactly.
It's a more mysterious sensation when you're in it, than the way you remember it afterwards. It's kinda dreamlike, but a lot different, almost like you're on the verge of knowing something, but then it fades away.
I always get a jolt when I realise I'm in it, as though I should be realising something important.
existenz
16-09-2008, 06:08 PM
I have those "double deja vu's" . I have dejavu and im like thinking wow this happened before and thinking about the dejavu that i just had. And then i have this second dejavu about thinking about the dejavu that i initially had :confused:
phaid
16-09-2008, 06:12 PM
very interesting, im not sure of his theory of eternal return tho, or more specifically does he mean that we live our lives over and over again for eternity? that would be horrific!
I don't think that he means that the same life goes on forever, but that we can change the situation when we've had enough of that life and want to move on (maybe when we realise what's going on, as in 'Groundhog Day'), rather like getting off the wheel of karma/Samsara in the Buddhist sense.
From a quantum physics perspective, one of the interpretations put forward is that all quantum events that can happen create multiple different universes ad infinitum and our lives take place in a subjective universe of our own creation by the act of observing it ourselves. So in theory we can change the universes in which we want to take part and presumably take on new lives in as many of those universes as we can imagine or observe into being.
Sorry if I'm not making sense but the book is quite heavy-going and I haven't taken all the ideas on board yet in a way that I can explain it!
cleft_asunder
16-09-2008, 06:13 PM
How often does it happen to you? With me, it''s very rarely - about 6 months ago was the last time it happened, for about 30 seconds.
I love it. I wish it would happen more.
30 seconds?? Never happend to me for so long. only like 5 seconds max for me, and it happends every month at least once I suppose.
cleft_asunder
16-09-2008, 06:14 PM
I remember an interview with ndeer mellen-thomas-benedict and he said that de ja vu is us remembering on the quantum level what we have already done, apparently everything has already happened on the quantum level, we have already lived our lives etc and dejavu is remembering this.
Yup, confirms me theory.
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 06:16 PM
I have those "double deja vu's" . I have dejavu and im like thinking wow this happened before and thinking about the dejavu that i just had. And then i have this second dejavu about thinking about the dejavu that i initially had :confused:
For fuck sake thank christ I'm not the only one this happens to!
Me too.
Thanks existenz.
phaid
16-09-2008, 06:20 PM
David Wilcock has talked about a deja vu being an instant of significance with some sort of message for you but the trick is to remember exactly what you were thinking about just before it happened to you.
disorder2k8
16-09-2008, 06:30 PM
you should deffinately try salvia haha
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 06:31 PM
30 seconds?? Never happend to me for so long. only like 5 seconds max for me, and it happends every month at least once I suppose.
30 seconds is an exaggeration now you mention it, but I've found that if you think about it, and not just say 'deja vu' and dismiss it, it lasts longer. Also noticed that it used to happen to me more often when I was around work colleagues, particularly girls, who also, on the whole, seemed more open to discussing it, too.
David Wilcock has talked about a deja vu being an instant of significance with some sort of message for you but the trick is to remember exactly what you were thinking about just before it happened to you.
You're really strumming my guitar there. Something constructive to do next time it happens.
tejas
16-09-2008, 06:31 PM
I watched that video and what he said about you dreaming it then it happens is completely true with me, Ive had sooo many instances of dejavu and precog, where I remember clearly the dream and whats happening in the present moment is a reinactment of that dream. Its interesting with what he says about epilepsy as well bcause i have had siezures etc, could be all related.
tejas
16-09-2008, 06:33 PM
you should deffinately try salvia haha
Have done, didnt do anything for me, even the heavy duty 45x stuff, why do you think it increases de ja vu?
phaid
16-09-2008, 06:37 PM
you should deffinately try salvia haha
I've done it - are you talking about the time slicing effect? Really weird....
cleft_asunder
16-09-2008, 06:39 PM
I don't think that he means that the same life goes on forever, but that we can change the situation when we've had enough of that life and want to move on (maybe when we realise what's going on, as in 'Groundhog Day'), rather like getting off the wheel of karma/Samsara in the Buddhist sense.
From a quantum physics perspective, one of the interpretations put forward is that all quantum events that can happen create multiple different universes ad infinitum and our lives take place in a subjective universe of our own creation by the act of observing it ourselves. So in theory we can change the universes in which we want to take part and presumably take on new lives in as many of those universes as we can imagine or observe into being.
Sorry if I'm not making sense but the book is quite heavy-going and I haven't taken all the ideas on board yet in a way that I can explain it!
Yes, but I didn't want to believe it at first. I mean can you imagine the number of probabilities? You can't even comprehend how that works itself out. I mean... for every moment, there are an infinite number of other probability splits. Or more accurately, there are an infinite number of "you's" experiencing all probabilities. That seems so meaningless to me. It was much simpler when I believed that we all have one life experiencing the multiverse. But then again, it's not that simple since there are no moment's...
...There's this intellectual contemplation regarding how an object gets from point A to point B. Pretend you are shooting an arrow and it's traveling through the air. In one moment, the arrow is half way to the target. The next, 3/4ths. The next, 2 inches. The next, .002 inches. The next, .000002 inches, and so on for infinity. How does the arrow ever reach the target? So the substance of change and motion is infinite. In between two strings in a guitar, there are an infinite number of sounds.
So back to what I was saying about probabilities. Within the timescale of your birth and death (as if that is even a fixed point! There are no fixed points) there aren't "x" amount of moments, there are an infinite number. It's not like a cartoon where Sponge Bob goes through 2000 frames (or whatever) from the beginning of the episode, to the end. There are no frames. Your life is just one fluid motion, and so is the whole universe. So now think about about probabilities from that perspective. :eek:
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 06:40 PM
I watched that video and what he said about you dreaming it then it happens is completely true with me, Ive had sooo many instances of dejavu and precog, where I remember clearly the dream and whats happening in the present moment is a reinactment of that dream. Its interesting with what he says about epilepsy as well bcause i have had siezures etc, could be all related.
I think epilepsy is definitely more than just a brain or nervous system malfunction. You're probably right.
cleft_asunder
16-09-2008, 06:41 PM
Have done, didnt do anything for me, even the heavy duty 45x stuff, why do you think it increases de ja vu?
Me neither, didn't do jack for me. I guess my chakra's aren't open enough.
disorder2k8
16-09-2008, 06:49 PM
I've done it - are you talking about the time slicing effect? Really weird....
Yeah the brain echo, its takes a while for your brain to catch up with what you did, at that point i usually start enjoying it more and giggling and stuff
northern_light
16-09-2008, 06:58 PM
Recently I am experiencing deja vu more and more frequently. When I was younger I had them very rarely, like once every 4-6 months or so. Now it varies from about a couple of days each month to a couple of days ecery second week. It's that often now. And the reason I mention days is because I usually now get several deja vus each day (have counted as many as 5 in one day). Then it stops for maybe a week or two before I get it again. The most recent one was on saturday when I counted 3 deja vus.
phaid
16-09-2008, 07:12 PM
Yes, but I didn't want to believe it at first. I mean can you imagine the number of probabilities? You can't even comprehend how that works itself out. I mean... for every moment, there are an infinite number of other probability splits. Or more accurately, there are an infinite number of "you's" experiencing all probabilities. That seems so meaningless to me. It was much simpler when I believed that we all have one life experiencing the multiverse. But then again, it's not that simple since there are no moment's...
...There's this intellectual contemplation regarding how an object gets from point A to point B. Pretend you are shooting an arrow and it's traveling through the air. In one moment, the arrow is half way to the target. The next, 3/4ths. The next, 2 inches. The next, .002 inches. The next, .000002 inches, and so on for infinity. How does the arrow ever reach the target? So the substance of change and motion is infinite. In between two strings in a guitar, there are an infinite number of sounds.
So back to what I was saying about probabilities. Within the timescale of your birth and death (as if that is even a fixed point! There are no fixed points) there aren't "x" amount of moments, there are an infinite number. It's not like a cartoon where Sponge Bob goes through 2000 frames (or whatever) from the beginning of the episode, to the end. There are no frames. Your life is just one fluid motion, and so is the whole universe. So now think about about probabilities from that perspective. :eek:
OK, i've got Peake's book here now, and there's one guy mentioned in it called Julian Barbour who's written his own book 'The End Of Time' in which he argues that there is NO time at all and the universe is timeless.
He suggests that there is a universe similar to the one in the Everett 'Many Worlds' theory that I've mentioned already but the difference is that for Barbour the universe splits not into an identical copy of itself at each quantum event but only into a probability. There's a kind of probability 'mist' where some events are more likely to take place than others. The 'nows' that are experienced are the high probability events.
Next bit copped from Wikipedia -
He (Barbour) holds the controversial view that time does not exist as anything other than an illusion, and that a number of physics' problems arise from assuming that it does exist. He argues that we have no evidence of the past other than our memory of it, and no evidence of the future other than our belief in it. "Change merely creates an illusion of time, with each individual moment existing in its own right, complete and whole. He calls these moments "Nows". It is all an illusion: there is no motion and no change. He argues that the illusion of time is what we interpret through what he calls "time capsules," which are "any fixed pattern that creates or encodes the appearance of motion, change or history."
The last sentence points towards your arrow/cartoon scenario. Barbour suggest that motion may not exist external to our perception and the retina/brain set-up is simply processing a set of still images that appear to be moving like the frames of a film, and the brain has to link these stills together in a back-and-forth method in order for us to make sense of the flow. In fact these images may have always been there and we dig them out to subjectively simulate some sort of linear time illusion. A bit like the idea that knowledge and information has always been there, you just have to perceive it and understand it into being, which is sorta getting into cosmology and the Anthropic Principle but that's another can of worms.
Phew! (mops brow....)
phaid
16-09-2008, 07:15 PM
Yeah the brain echo, its takes a while for your brain to catch up with what you did, at that point i usually start enjoying it more and giggling and stuff
Giggling - tell me about it, it cracks me up every time!
Life becomes a cartoon where it's all broken down into frames - I can imagine walking around leaving a long trail of sliced-up 'me's' wherever I go!
That's if I can stand up without falling over.....:D
cleft_asunder
16-09-2008, 08:50 PM
OK, i've got Peake's book here now, and there's one guy mentioned in it called Julian Barbour who's written his own book 'The End Of Time' in which he argues that there is NO time at all and the universe is timeless.
He suggests that there is a universe similar to the one in the Everett 'Many Worlds' theory that I've mentioned already but the difference is that for Barbour the universe splits not into an identical copy of itself at each quantum event but only into a probability. There's a kind of probability 'mist' where some events are more likely to take place than others. The 'nows' that are experienced are the high probability events.
Next bit copped from Wikipedia -
The last sentence points towards your arrow/cartoon scenario. Barbour suggest that motion may not exist external to our perception and the retina/brain set-up is simply processing a set of still images that appear to be moving like the frames of a film, and the brain has to link these stills together in a back-and-forth method in order for us to make sense of the flow. In fact these images may have always been there and we dig them out to subjectively simulate some sort of linear time illusion. A bit like the idea that knowledge and information has always been there, you just have to perceive it and understand it into being, which is sorta getting into cosmology and the Anthropic Principle but that's another can of worms.
Phew! (mops brow....)
Good post but I don't understand the last paragraph, so I'll briefly focus on the no-time idea. Barbour's idea is interesting, and I can give you a perfect example supporting(?) his theory. If you, as an individual, no longer have a memory nor a concept of the future, and you are staring at the second hand on a clock, then there is no motion. You are in a perpetual state of "now now now now now." The hand on the clock will not appear to move.
So what does that imply? Because I don't understand the concept of no change in the grand schem. Things are happening, aren't they?
It was Socrate's who said that motion is an illusion.
phaid
16-09-2008, 10:19 PM
Good post but I don't understand the last paragraph, so I'll briefly focus on the no-time idea. Barbour's idea is interesting, and I can give you a perfect example supporting(?) his theory. If you, as an individual, no longer have a memory nor a concept of the future, and you are staring at the second hand on a clock, then there is no motion. You are in a perpetual state of "now now now now now." The hand on the clock will not appear to move.
So what does that imply? Because I don't understand the concept of no change in the grand schem. Things are happening, aren't they?
It was Socrate's who said that motion is an illusion.
OK, the Strong Anthropic Principle in cosmology and J.A.Wheeler in the field of quantum physics suggest the idea that the Universe needs observers to bring it into existence - in fact if the Universe were any other way than it is now or has appeared to be in the 'past', down to the behaviour of the last atom, then we would not be here at all. This is disputed by many conservative physicists (but then they feel insecure without certainty).
Time may well be happening either not at all like Barbour's idea, or all at once - which amount to basically the same thing - linear time is an illusion and is only separated into moments by the subjective observer. To use a computing analogy time is already 'buffered' into memory, past, present and future and it's down to us to 'play' it in order for the sequential linear illusion to take place in front of our senses.
Going back to the S.A.Principle then, effectively if one believes in that very unlikely event the Big Bang at the perceived 'beginning' of Time, then we are 'tweaking' that event by our understanding and comprehension of it into what passes as 'scientific measurement', although it is probably happening right now, as is the death of the Universe.
Right, I think I'd better stop now, as I'm getting a bit confused myself :D.
A good book to read which tries to explain all this is 'Quantum Psychology' by Robert Anton Wilson, which actually features your 'arrow' idea.
cleft_asunder
16-09-2008, 10:27 PM
Regarding an object only existing when we view it, it can only make sense that way IMO. Perhaps I'm speaking too philisophically here, but how can it be any other way? Let's say consciousness doesn't exist, how can there be a universe? There is no consciousness to perceive it, therefore it is the same as void. The multiverse has to come out of some creative force --out of life which is consciousness.
Therefore, I don't understand any possibility other than consciousness being the prerequisite for form. How else can it work?
As for time, I still don't understand what the implecations are in the grand scheme in relation to consciousness.
phaid
16-09-2008, 10:42 PM
Regarding an object only existing when we view it, it can only make sense that way IMO. Perhaps I'm speaking too philisophically here, but how can it be any other way? Let's say consciousness doesn't exist, how can there be a universe? There is no consciousness to perceive it, therefore it is the same as void. The multiverse has to come out of some creative force --out of life which is consciousness.
Therefore, I don't understand any possibility other than consciousness being the prerequisite for form. How else can it work?
As for time, I still don't understand what the implecations are in the grand scheme in relation to consciousness.
There could be a reality outside of human perception - 'Etic' reality some call it - but of course to sample it, we would have to pass it through a human nervous system and use the tools of language to describe it, therefore it's not feasible without getting involved, rather like the lab experiment that cannot be measured without observation/interference at the quantum level by the scientist.
I don't what the Grand Scheme has in store for consciousness either. :confused:
cleft_asunder
16-09-2008, 11:05 PM
There could be a reality outside of human perception - 'Etic' reality some call it - but of course to sample it, we would have to pass it through a human nervous system and use the tools of language to describe it, therefore it's not feasible without getting involved, rather like the lab experiment that cannot be measured without observation/interference at the quantum level by the scientist.
I don't what the Grand Scheme has in store for consciousness either. :confused:
I'm talking on the highest level of consciousness, which is God.
"There is in the universe an aura which permeates all things and makes them what they are. Below, it shapes for land and water. Above, the sun and the stars. In man it is called spirit; and there is nowhere where it is not."
By spirit he means consciousness.
mariag
16-09-2008, 11:15 PM
We've all had it. What do you think it is?
You are an infinte spirit living in a container ( you call it body) :) So therefore it happens that sometimes you get flashes of old and new memories . Thats the way I see it anyway. When we get " Deja Voux" we simply see fragrances and flashes of memories . Like when you work on the pc and it crashes and fragrances of the program that you just ended still remains a few seconds on the screen . Hope I am not soundin too strange here :)
phaid
16-09-2008, 11:47 PM
Like when you work on the pc and it crashes and fragrances of the program that you just ended still remains a few seconds on the screen . Hope I am not soundin too strange here :)
Sounds like you're getting into the realms of synaesthesia if you're actually experiencing the 'fragrance' of a computer program. ;)
lakkimakki
18-09-2008, 01:26 PM
ihad a deja vu last month , its like robert monroe said; when we die we can chose to go further or come back to earth ,
but im not sure we can choose the same life , if that is possible; ( to chose same life) then thats the answer, so iw been returning back to same life lotz of times , thatz the reason of deja vu . lol but i dont know why i returned back:confused: ...
life is soo confusing... damn it :)
tehuti
18-09-2008, 10:42 PM
I believe I had one on wednesday, I went to college and sitting next this chap talking, he then said to me "How old r you?".
From the moment he said that I knew exactly how the conversation was going to unfold and kinda felt like another "me" was looking, observing me having this conversation and i went aha! I've done this before.
So I said to him "Have you asked me this before?" being that i could see how the convo was going to flow and slightly thinking he might have been taking the piss.
So he said "no".
It's only later I was going home that I realised it was only the second day i had been in that class.
Very strange.
shankara
19-09-2008, 04:06 AM
I experience deja vu (love the song by CSN, btw :D) a lot, nearly daily for the past 9 or so years. I usually like it but honestly sometimes I wonder the value of it. When it first started happening I figured I was tapping into other lifetimes, and soon enough I'd get the full picture. But that hasn't happened; it's still pretty vague (though I have somewhat more clarity now). It will be triggered by almost anything, and for a moment (a few seconds usually, sometimes a little longer) I'll be back in another life, or sometimes it'll feel like the future, or maybe in between lifetimes, like the spirit-world, or even like I'm tapping into someone else's life, like a close soul that I'm not even physically in contact with right now.
It'll feel like I'm right on the brink of remembering everything, like my conscious mind isn't quite there yet but the subconscious mind is, I'll get images and emotions, but as soon as it's done I can't remember the images or emotions so well, just little flashes. Whenever I try to analyze it in the moment I lose it. At times I've gotten quite angry and just asked God to stop it, because I was driving myself crazy trying to figure it all out, with no real answers or benefits. Maybe someday it'll all be clear if it's meant to be...
Nice to know others experience this too! :)
tattooverb
21-09-2008, 02:51 AM
When it happens to me, it's not remembering something from the past that I've forgotten, it's a sense that what I'm doing right here and now has been done before, and sometimes I know exactly what someone else is about to say.
More like Groundhog Day than memories of a past life.
parallel reality bleed-through
as the magnetic field shifts and the frequency of the sun and earth increases lots of weird stuff is happening
not least of all in peoples minds