View Full Version : The Grid
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:07 AM
Anyone know about this? "the Grid" it has been all over the news just wanted to see if this had came to anyone elses attention.
i noticed that there are lots of posts on the surrounding "movie" but people dont seem to see the reason behind it.
your thoughs are welcome.
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 11:09 AM
Welcome wazaaap.
Are you talking about the Earth Grid theory, or some movie coming out called 'The Grid', or both?
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:10 AM
Welcome wazaaap.
Are you talking about the Earth Grid theory, or some movie coming out called 'The Grid' or both?
good guess but no - stay tuned as it will be revealed!
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 11:11 AM
good guess but no - stay tuned as it will be revealed!
I'll resist the temptation to Google it and spoil the tension then...
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:13 AM
I'll resist the temptation to Google it and spoil the tension, then...
google away you wont find it - and when you do you wont see it.
i know it cause i worked on it untill i woke up.
killmicrosoft
15-09-2008, 11:14 AM
the GRID look at the CERN
http://eu-datagrid.web.cern.ch/eu-datagrid/
http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/Spotlight/SpotlightGrid-en.html
http://gridcafe.web.cern.ch/gridcafe/GridatCERN/gridatcern.html
http://www.circleid.com/posts/cerns_the_grid_broadband/
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Technology/New-Grid-At-CERN-In-Geneva-To-Revolutionise-The-Internet/Article/20080421312385?lpos=Technology_5&lid=ARTICLE_1312385_New%2BGrid%2BAt%2BCERN%2BIn%2B Geneva%2BTo%2BRevolutionise%2BThe%2BInternet
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 11:14 AM
google away you wont find it - and when you do you wont see it.
i know it cause i worked on it untill i woke up.
OK...the grid as in the new and improved super-internet?
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:15 AM
the GRID look at the CERN
http://eu-datagrid.web.cern.ch/eu-datagrid/
http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/Spotlight/SpotlightGrid-en.html
http://gridcafe.web.cern.ch/gridcafe/GridatCERN/gridatcern.html
http://www.circleid.com/posts/cerns_the_grid_broadband/
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Technology/New-Grid-At-CERN-In-Geneva-To-Revolutionise-The-Internet/Article/20080421312385?lpos=Technology_5&lid=ARTICLE_1312385_New%2BGrid%2BAt%2BCERN%2BIn%2B Geneva%2BTo%2BRevolutionise%2BThe%2BInternet
congrats you have touched the edge of the plan, now what is it used for?
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:15 AM
OK...the grid as in the new and improved super-internet?
that is the cover story yes
pinkgeranium
15-09-2008, 11:17 AM
Anyone know about this? "the Grid" it has been all over the news just wanted to see if this had came to anyone elses attention.
i noticed that there are lots of posts on the surrounding "movie" but people dont seem to see the reason behind it.
your thoughs are welcome.
The Grid.......... Is'nt that something to do with The Large Head-up-arse Collider?
Something for the ego maniac psychos.......sorry I mean scientists to prosess all the info from their latest toy?
neomagic
15-09-2008, 11:18 AM
google away you wont find it - and when you do you wont see it.
i know it cause i worked on it untill i woke up.
TBH that sounds exactly like something id like to be aware of, come on spill the beans if you think it's important. :)
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:19 AM
The Grid.......... Is'nt that something to do with The Large Head-up-arse Collider?
Something for the ego maniac psychos.......sorry I mean scientists to prosess all the info from their latest toy?
again you are watching the movie. there is a bigger use - "the Large Head-up-arse Collider" is useless and does nothing of the sort that they tell us it will, what they are trying to acheve has allready been done.
neomagic
15-09-2008, 11:20 AM
again you are watching the movie. there is a bigger use - "the Large Head-up-arse Collider" is useless and does nothing of the sort that they tell us it will, what they are trying to acheve has allready been done.
I did think this myself actually.
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 11:21 AM
Is this background shit relevant to what you're going to tell us?
Super-fast 'grid' could make internet obsolete
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2001/03/42230
tothestars
15-09-2008, 11:28 AM
a stargate
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 11:29 AM
And/or this, from 7 years ago when they first publicised it?
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2001/03/42230
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:29 AM
You are all correct. But here is the problem; I got woke up just over 1 month ago after coming across Davids stuff. I was in disbelief but when I woke up I realised that the world was in immediate trouble.
I have since realised that what they are trying to do has been wrote about by an insider in a mainstream book. “The traveller by John twelve hawkes”
The nwo does not want chips as they are expensive and can be removed, so all this crap David mentions was true at one time but is old now.
Imagine a world with nowhere to hide? Why would you need chips to track people?
Fact is you don’t. Everyday something goes into space right? Everyday a new thing goes into a car and your passport and now drivers licence.
Put it all together with a computer to generate the info and simulate the results and what do you get?
SECOND LIFE in REALITY.
I write this here as I fear people branding me as mad, but I realise you are all in tune to this stuff.
I have seen it and have helped create it – I don’t know what to do with the info but try to introduce it to this network of “Freedom Fighters.”
Do any of use know about this?
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:34 AM
this is now in operation and has no name, but there is remote towns in the middle east that are totally virtual, the people are all 3d images on screens, but it gets deeper, the computer can tell what you are going to pick off the shelf, they know what paper you read, they know what you like what you don’t like and even what you will like to eat next week,
It is scary the information this system is generating, and best of all the internet is powering it - THE GRID is not just "80000" computers, it is every computer in the world that connects to the "WORLD WIDE WEB"
Our lives are in the hands of the NWO and unless we bring down the Grid, then everything you are fighting for will be worthless, that is why David can run around and spread the word! It is all irrelevant.
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 11:35 AM
Are you saying that they track you in this reality via chips in everything, and feed that data into another dimension via computer to create a controlled virtual reality?
EDIT: I don't think that's what you mean, but I don't follow you on the details.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:36 AM
i cant really explain it via words, but "john twelve hawkes" describes it best in his books. i dont know who he is but he knows about this, so he must be an insider.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:39 AM
Are you saying that they track you in this reality via chips in everything, and feed that data into another dimension via computer to create a controlled virtual reality?
no - they dont need chips, they monitor you and track everything you do, the computer then generates a report on YOU!
think what they can do with this>?
imagine being able to project where you are going to go on holiday next year, imagin if the computer knew you were planning an uprising, do you think the computer would let you. or do you think the computer would, do everything it could to change your reality.
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 11:40 AM
You're an insider? Can you give us some background on how you know about this? In what capacity did you work on the project?
Who is being controlled in a 3D virtual reality town? Are the people CG?
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:47 AM
i dont have alot of information about the project but i know it is there - im at thein the traveler and the dark river the guy mentions it - i found this on a forum,
The shadow program makes me think of the matrix. if your running simulations..the next step.. why not just hook the brain up and make there reality the computer simulation. then our bodys are compleatly emersed in the VM.
I love how The Bretheren were talking about the shadow program (on the dark island) and Dr Jensen didnt like the fact he was in the program. He was embarrased and "crushed" when they named the DVD he baught. He was shown the reality of the panopticon. I wonder if he will turn sides at some point.
The bretheren will ALL be on the Shadow program eventualy, I can see some double standards forming eventuly, them expecting to live outside the Panopticons Rules Just because they created it. But who is gonna watch them? We all become there slaves, with zero freedoms
this is what they are trying to acheve, john twelve hawkes calls it the shadow program, but in life it has no name.
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 11:54 AM
Okay, but how does it work?
Step A-B-C?
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 11:56 AM
You're an insider? Can you give us some background on how you know about this? In what capacity did you work on the project?
Who is being controlled in a 3D virtual reality town? Are the people CG?
no no no
The cg people are on the computer and monitored so:
ME! I, myself, or you, whomever goes down to asda in real life ok!
Now when I go to asda I walk around the supermarket and do my shopping, the computer uses satellites along with cctv and any other information, mobile phones in the area etc.. And generated a virtual reality image on a computer somewhere in the world.
they can tell what I take off the shelf, and just encase they are unsure I use my switch card to pay and the receipt is stored on the asda computer system, which is in turn connected to the grid!
Now apply this to everything we do. Everywhere we go?
What I’m saying is that there are whole villages, that can be viewed by a computer and you can pull the records of anyone and get as much information as you want.
Now people like Amazon and Google, are developing a product that tracks what you do on the internet, and in turn only advertises what you are interested in on your internet. Imagine this being applied in real life.
Imagine everytime you put on the TV to watch eastenders or whatever the ad breaks come on and it is a product the computer knows you may like and in turn your brain says I’m going to buy that I saw that in asda the other day!
Now imagine if you had doubts about the government - well surprise surprise the computer makes sure that all your eyes see is positive things about the government where ever you go.
I hope you can now start to see this.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:00 PM
so basically
step one - collect data (cctv, satelite, GPS, Mobile phones, etc...)
step two - track a person, so collect information, what they bought what there friends bought, what he does online, credit card statements, background of family etc...
step three - generate a virtual image of this person on yourvirtual world you have created(like second life)
Step four - generate what you think he will do next
Step five - change that thought by infulence to affect what he actally does
Step six - total controll of the person, whilst him beleving he is free.
also fully traceable so no need for chips and all that crap.
neomagic
15-09-2008, 12:04 PM
Yes but surely the system would fail as soon as you stop using credit cards, mobile phones or anything else connected to the grid?
e.g. walk out the house with only your clothes you would become invisible to the grid would you not?
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:05 PM
am i making sense yet?
it is hard to imagine as it is very advanced, but it is a reality and the population needs to stop it.
so if you know david then i sugest you bring this to his attension.
lightworks
15-09-2008, 12:07 PM
hi I havent got tyime to read thi9s now..but on the surface...this looks extremely awakening....it just goes to show how continuosly amazed I am ...at the process by which i feel i have reached a plateau of learning,...and then evryday...i learn yet something more....and I am always always always open to learning more....I just an innocent child of the universe....
jennf
15-09-2008, 12:08 PM
You are all correct. But here is the problem; I got woke up just over 1 month ago after coming across Davids stuff. I was in disbelief but when I woke up I realised that the world was in immediate trouble.
I have since realised that what they are trying to do has been wrote about by an insider in a mainstream book. “The traveller by John twelve hawkes”
The nwo does not want chips as they are expensive and can be removed, so all this crap David mentions was true at one time but is old now.
Imagine a world with nowhere to hide? Why would you need chips to track people?
Fact is you don’t. Everyday something goes into space right? Everyday a new thing goes into a car and your passport and now drivers licence.
Put it all together with a computer to generate the info and simulate the results and what do you get?
SECOND LIFE in REALITY.
I write this here as I fear people branding me as mad, but I realise you are all in tune to this stuff.
I have seen it and have helped create it – I don’t know what to do with the info but try to introduce it to this network of “Freedom Fighters.”
Do any of use know about this?
Hi Wazaaap and welcome to the forum :)
I totally get what your saying, it makes perfect sense. I can visualize it in my head as about a year ago I was on Second Life lol! was just curious to see how it worked. My friends and I were discussing the LHC the other evening and we knew it was for something a lot more sinister, but couldn't put our fingers on it. Have just got the e-book and will check it out, thanks for that as I had not heard of that book before;)
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:08 PM
Yes but surely the system would fail as soon as you stop using credit cards, mobile phones or anything else connected to the grid?
e.g. walk out the house with only your clothes you would become invisible to the grid would you not?
no - because the guy walking next to you has a mobile, and how can you live when they rd the world of money?
there is no way around it - try dodging satelites that can see through walls and underground, by using thermal imaging mixed with any other form of sensors available.
so even if you go tech free there is millions of people completing the picture, and even then they can just gather historical records and predict what you are thinking and what you plan to do for the next week.
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 12:08 PM
Got it.
Basically an extension of what they're doing now, but with real time satellite surveillance, and other sophisticated tracking technology, fed into a computer to generate a predictive virtual reality model of your life.
Does that tie into the Hadron Collider in some way?
killmicrosoft
15-09-2008, 12:08 PM
http://eu-datagrid.web.cern.ch/eu-datagrid/default.htm
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:10 PM
Got it.
Basically an extension of what they're doing now, but with real time satellite surveillance, and other sophisticated tracking technology, fed into a computer to generate a predictive virtual reality model of your life.
Does that tie into the Hadron Collider in some way?
it is used as an excuse to use the grid. to justify the higher goal.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:11 PM
http://eu-datagrid.web.cern.ch/eu-datagrid/default.htm
The grid only powers the technology, the creators of the griddont know the NWOs objective for it.
I DO! i have seen the images of it - they have now disapeared from my inbox?
they are watching us all the time, and to be honest i might be putting my life at risk, but here is the thing i dont care - as for one that falls two will rise, and see this happening, lets just hope sooner rather than latter.
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 12:15 PM
Okay. So they can predict what I'm going to do tomorrow with a high degree of reliability.
They customise TV commercials to appeal to the things I'm interested in. How long would it take the average person to wake up to that?
It's already blatantly obvious when it pops up on your computer.
How much manpower would it take to customise every incidental detail of my day tomorrow for it to be a meaningful way to control what I do?
I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't strike me as a very efficient way to control people, to be honest.
Sure there's more to it, so feel free to elaborate.
neomagic
15-09-2008, 12:16 PM
There are two ways of looking at this.
A) We may as well give up now, because we are ultimately controlled beyond most people’s comprehension and there is just no hope.
Or
B) My preferred train of thought, it doesn’t matter what they try to achieve, the truth will be out before they get a real chance at implementing it and there will be a mass awakening to the truth.
I personally think that good will prevail and the end is coming very soon.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:20 PM
Okay. So they can predict what I'm going to do tomorrow with a high degree of reliability.
They customise TV commercials to appeal to the things I'm interested in. How long would it take the average person to wake up to that?
It's already blatantly obvious when it pops up on your computer.
How much manpower would it take to customise every incidental detail of my day tomorrow for it to be a meaningful way to control what I do?
I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't strike me as a very efficient way to control people, to be honest.
Sure there's more to it, so feel free to elaborate.
manpower? who mentioned manpower - computer power - the only man power involved is by you :-)
you need to think of the bigger picture -
Think of the world and the controll they have now - we think it would be ovious to those in the world about what was happening, yet i only woke up to it last week, and before was happy to let this shit fly.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:24 PM
There are two ways of looking at this.
A) We may as well give up now, because we are ultimately controlled beyond most people’s comprehension and there is just no hope.
Or
B) My preferred train of thought, it doesn’t matter what they try to achieve, the truth will be out before they get a real chance at implementing it and there will be a mass awakening to the truth.
I personally think that good will prevail and the end is coming very soon.
If only it was that simple when you know what the person thinks and you can predict what they will do - how easy do you think it would be to then contrll that person and numb there thoughts.
then if that all fails, well they know what street you are walking down, and as we have seen you can hide the most wanted man in the world, how easy is it to make you disapear?
i will tell you - as easy as it was to make a whole flight of people dissapear into the WTC. and everyone will just think it is some sick fucked up terrorist.
or a child snatcher.
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 12:27 PM
manpower? who mentioned manpower - computer power - the only man power involved is by you :-)
you need to think of the bigger picture -
Think of the world and the controll they have now - we think it would be ovious to those in the world about what was happening, yet i only woke up to it last week, and before was happy to let this shit fly.
By manpower, I'm referring to the effort they would presumably have to expend on influencing me when I'm not plugged into the system, i.e. staring at a computer, watching television, listening to radio, walking through the supermarket aisles etc.
Otherwise it sounds like a more sophisticated version of target marketing, which is transparent to most people even now, when it's not everywhere.
EDIT: You mentioned reading people's minds. Why would they need to develop a predictive model of your behaviour in a virtual reality world if they had the capability to read your mind anyway?
Sorry if I sound cynical, but just trying to think this through.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:28 PM
A) We may as well give up now, because we are ultimately controlled beyond most people’s comprehension and there is just no hope.
if that is how you think then what are you doing on this forum, you may as well go back to be a sheep or kill yourself.
I will tell you how we bring it down - POWER IN NUMBERS - there are no walls to this prison so why are we still sitting in the cell?
We need to march on the streets, not just once a year, march everyday - march on the city wake up these bankers that we wont work in there system, we will contine to march untill we get what e want - there is only so many people they can throw in prosonor shoot before the world rebels.
neomagic
15-09-2008, 12:30 PM
If only it was that simple when you know what the person thinks and you can predict what they will do - how easy do you think it would be to then contrll that person and numb there thoughts.
then if that all fails, well they know what street you are walking down, and as we have seen you can hide the most wanted man in the world, how easy is it to make you disapear?
i will tell you - as easy as it was to make a whole flight of people dissapear into the WTC. and everyone will just think it is some sick fucked up terrorist.
or a child snatcher.
There are big discoveries being made right now, and things external to this planet and events set to take place that will change everyone’s entire outlook on life in the coming 4 years.
I believe that there are things available to us, or at least will be soon that the Elite are aware of and have no power over because it’s not in there control.
IMO it's only a matter of when, but good will prevail.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:31 PM
By manpower, I'm referring to the effort they would presumably have to expend on influencing me when I'm not plugged into the system, i.e. staring at a computer, watching television, listening to radio, walking through the supermarket aisles etc.
Otherwise it sounds like a more sophisticated version of target marketing, which is transparent to most people even now, when it's not everywhere.
The world is the system, you are allways plugged into t - even if you are a tramp you are in the system.
how would yo ulive without the system? no house as it is paid for by the system, no food as it is the system, no clothes as it is the system.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:34 PM
There are big discoveries being made right now, and things external to this planet and events set to take place that will change everyone’s entire outlook on life in the coming 4 years.
I believe that there are things available to us, or at least will be soon that the Elite are aware of and have no power over because it’s not in there control.
IMO it's only a matter of when, but good will prevail.
well good luck waiting for the green men to help you -
sorry to be rude but no one will help you but yourself. and if you dont act neither will anyone else.
sitting on the net posting on a forum is easy - it is time for the men to be seperated from the boys - start going out on the streets and spread the word, how much does it cost to print out some flyers and raise awareness? not the price of human freedome anyway.
well the time is now - because time is running out.
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 12:46 PM
The world is the system, you are allways plugged into t - even if you are a tramp you are in the system.
how would yo ulive without the system? no house as it is paid for by the system, no food as it is the system, no clothes as it is the system.
Maybe I was just real fucking slow on the uptake of what you're talking about then...
The 'Grid' is the overall control system, they track you in real time, predict what you're going to do, kill you if you step out of line etc., basically the common model of a Big Brother society.
What am I missing? You've seen photos? What of? The virtual reality modeling?
Where are the 24/7 towns in the Middle East where they're doing this?
neomagic
15-09-2008, 12:48 PM
well good luck waiting for the green men to help you -
sorry to be rude but no one will help you but yourself. and if you dont act neither will anyone else.
sitting on the net posting on a forum is easy - it is time for the men to be seperated from the boys - start going out on the streets and spread the word, how much does it cost to print out some flyers and raise awareness? not the price of human freedome anyway.
well the time is now - because time is running out.
lol, it's quite funny you have interpreted what I’ve said like that, and to be fair you not far wrong.
Either way, I’m not just sat on the net doing nothing about it that’s a very bold generalisation that a lot of people make about people like us.
Now no offence at all, but you say you only woke up a week ago? Well not that you get any prizes for length of service or anything but I woke up three years ago and I’m still learning and you will never stop either. So please for your own benefit don’t think you have it all figured out and put all your energy into this one subject because like everything there is always an opposite and there is always a light at the end of the tunnel.
Sounds philosophical yeah, well it’s scientifically proven as well. :)
truthseeker1980
15-09-2008, 12:57 PM
I still dont really see what the HNC collider thing has to do with it.
It's common knowledge throughout the truth movement, we know they already have all of this info on everyone, they want to install the satnav car tax, which we protested about in our milions but still Blair told us he will be going ahead with it, we know they want to control us. Nothing new there!
In effect are we not already living in a CG reality, as reality is an illusion, it's all in our minds. Nothing is solid everything is a vibration.
So the question i ask is which is the the real reality the one in your head or the one you are talking about with regards to computer generated towns and alike?
Sorry i'm still quite confused as to what the HNC has to do with it.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:58 PM
Maybe I was just real fucking slow on the uptake of what you're talking about then...
The 'Grid' is the overall control system, they track you in real time, predict what you're going to do, kill you if you step out of line etc., basically the common model of a Big Brother society.
What am I missing? You've seen photos? What of? The virtual reality modeling?
Where are the 24/7 towns in the Middle East where they're doing this?
I have seen screenshots of the system in use. i dont know what towns in the middle east but i know it is taking place there.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 12:59 PM
lol, it's quite funny you have interpreted what I’ve said like that, and to be fair you not far wrong.
Either way, I’m not just sat on the net doing nothing about it that’s a very bold generalisation that a lot of people make about people like us.
Now no offence at all, but you say you only woke up a week ago? Well not that you get any prizes for length of service or anything but I woke up three years ago and I’m still learning and you will never stop either. So please for your own benefit don’t think you have it all figured out and put all your energy into this one subject because like everything there is always an opposite and there is always a light at the end of the tunnel.
Sounds philosophical yeah, well it’s scientifically proven as well. :)
We will see then - lets just hope people like you are wrong.
is there any advise you can give to help the process?
neomagic
15-09-2008, 01:03 PM
if that is how you think then what are you doing on this forum, you may as well go back to be a sheep or kill yourself.
I will tell you how we bring it down - POWER IN NUMBERS - there are no walls to this prison so why are we still sitting in the cell?
We need to march on the streets, not just once a year, march everyday - march on the city wake up these bankers that we wont work in there system, we will contine to march untill we get what e want - there is only so many people they can throw in prosonor shoot before the world rebels.
I said that there where two ways of looking at it, and that my preferred train of thought was my second option.
Either way life doesn’t end on the external level.
neomagic
15-09-2008, 01:04 PM
We will see then - lets just hope people like you are wrong.
is there any advise you can give to help the process?
Why would you want me to be wrong?
I'm trying to give you hope?
size_of_light
15-09-2008, 01:04 PM
I have seen screenshots of the system in use. i dont know what towns in the middle east but i know it is taking place there.
Ok. Interesting info. I'm sure you'll get plenty more people checking out this thread in the coming days. Again - welcome.
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 01:05 PM
I still dont really see what the HNC collider thing has to do with it.
It's common knowledge throughout the truth movement, we know they already have all of this info on everyone, they want to install the satnav car tax, which we protested about in our milions but still Blair told us he will be going ahead with it, we know they want to control us. Nothing new there!
In effect are we not already living in a CG reality, as reality is an illusion, it's all in our minds. Nothing is solid everything is a vibration.
So the question i ask is which is the the real reality the one in your head or the one you are talking about with regards to computer generated towns and alike?
Sorry i'm still quite confused as to what the HNC has to do with it.
They needed an excuse to push through the processing power to run the system, basically the system has been there for years "the Grid" but they needed an excuse to use it - now they have one, as long as this machine is doing "tests" then the grid will continue to work.
i think people were wising up to the controled internet by the grid and started to ask questions, the HNC is the justification for this.
think of th whole of london in realtime simulation on a central computer - now imagin something happens - a murder - you would be able to pull the profile of the murderer and see what lead him to become that sort of person. you now ahve a template to applie to as many people asyou want and turn them into murderers. or a zombie that loves life and the controll they are under.
neomagic
15-09-2008, 01:06 PM
LHC chaps LHC :P
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 01:06 PM
Why would you want me to be wrong?
I'm trying to give you hope?
i dont - trust me i dont - but i struggle to see anything that can stop the NWO.
i belive what goes up must come down, but it is what it brings down with it that i worry about.
duckingdafta
15-09-2008, 02:24 PM
example of the grid:
This isn't a joke... it's official video...worth watching even though it's 20 mins.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2301756762339435723&ei=WmHOSN-wO5SuiAL5zInKAg&q=darpa&hl=en
wazaaap
15-09-2008, 02:54 PM
example of the grid:
This isn't a joke... it's official video...worth watching even though it's 20 mins.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2301756762339435723&ei=WmHOSN-wO5SuiAL5zInKAg&q=darpa&hl=en
it scratches the surface, well found buddy!
qasrose
15-09-2008, 06:33 PM
if that is how you think then what are you doing on this forum, you may as well go back to be a sheep or kill yourself..
Everyone is entitled to there own opinion Wazaaap.
killmicrosoft
15-09-2008, 08:06 PM
wazaaap
google away you wont find it - and when you do you wont see it.
I got woke up just over 1 month ago after coming across Davids stuff. I was in disbelief but when I woke up I realised that the world was in immediate trouble.
I DO! i have seen the images of it - they have now disapeared from my inbox?
first of all you say you have only just woken up to this then you say you have had this information for some time.
you say you had some email that could prove it but are deleted now .
very convenient.
i think you are either deliberately misleading or just plain ignorant of the facts
sannox
15-09-2008, 08:20 PM
i dont like this "grid" thing .
i_b_awake
16-09-2008, 03:13 AM
2 things... that this grid sounds like to me
1) .. sounds to me like ITS the matrix that's everywhere, just an adaption of that and tapping in to it via [extreme] technology! (ie LHC, HAARP, Chemtrails], like remote viewing with 'actual' remotes :)
2) .. sounds like the technology batman uses in the 'Dark Knight' with the mobile phones .. awesome film
also .. surely you would not want to march on the streets about this, as they woudl already know you was going to do that :) Makes predictive text look feeble! :)
jennf
16-09-2008, 12:47 PM
I have a question: Does Google earth have anything to do with this? By that I mean could that have been a blueprint to feed into this as the scale model?
wazaaap
16-09-2008, 12:59 PM
I have a question: Does Google earth have anything to do with this? By that I mean could that have been a blueprint to feed into this as the scale model?
The street view could - the new google world, dont know if the general public are aware that google are taking photos of every street in the world.
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 01:07 PM
I would think that Google Earth's purpose is to give people a basic comprehension of what satellite surveillance is, and how it works, and also a sense of how powerful the real state of the art technology must be.
The images you can access on Google Earth are very low quality, yet it was publicised long ago that satellite cameras can count the dimples on a golf ball/read a newspaper over your shoulder, from space.
There's a reason why they allow us to use Google Earth, and I think it's to send us a message - now that you know how it works, imagine what we can see.
raptorialis
16-09-2008, 01:30 PM
Hello,
Such a computer does exist. I have seen many of the programs over the years. In fact i have "unknowlingly" helped to design some of the software. Much of this software is backend code with a lot being contributed by the video games industry, such as AI, CGI, physics engines etc.
Many of the worlds smartest hackers have been working on it for decades. Put all this smart software engineering together and you get a computer that simulates the real world and can forecast and even evoke behaviour.
You can call it the Grid, the Matrix, or the Internet or whatever.
What it is, is science Gone mad. Scientists believe that they can actually control the population using such a toy. Science is about playing God.
But God does not Play!
What these scientists don't understand is that human kind has built in coping mechanisms for dealing with control freakery. Put a cage around an animal and that animal never develops. Put a cage around a human being and they can think the most powerful thoughts (Nelson Mandela)(Terry Waite)(Princess Diana)(Victor Frankl) + Other persecuted people.
The human spirit is whatever it needs to be, whereever it needs to be, and how ever needs to be. When caged, it finds a way out.
I have done my analysis on this computer and there are a gazillion ways you could hack it to death.
So don't worry. Let them have their games.
We await them at the pass.
It will be a F* ambush.
Matrix Hackers
Situationalist Security people deal in illusions
http://intrench.blogspot.com/2008/09/brand-killer-robots-reveal-once-you.html
http://intrench.blogspot.com/2008/04/psychology-behind-brand-killer-robots.html
killmicrosoft
16-09-2008, 02:01 PM
shit f@@@ m@ this is real f@@@ f@@@ f@@@
http://www.intelligencerealm.com/aisystem/graphics.php
http://www.intelligencerealm.com/aisystem/system_center/faq.php#Q23
http://vesicle.nsi.edu/users/izhikevich/human_brain_simulation/Blue_Brain.htm#Computer%20Model%20of%20the%20Human %20Brain
http://vesicle.nsi.edu/users/izhikevich/human_brain_simulation/why.htm
Artificial neural network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Artificial consciousness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Strong AI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
raptorialis
16-09-2008, 02:15 PM
They are like an artist with no hands killmicrosoft.
They cannot map, nor imitate, nor control what they cannot see.
What they cannot know.
Everything is hackable, because everything is an illusion.
http://www.intelligencerealm.com/aisystem/graphics.php
http://www.intelligencerealm.com/aisystem/system_center/faq.php#Q23
http://vesicle.nsi.edu/users/izhikevich/human_brain_simulation/Blue_Brain.htm#Computer%20Model%20of%20the%20Human %20Brain
http://vesicle.nsi.edu/users/izhikevich/human_brain_simulation/why.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_neural_network
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_consciousness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence
killmicrosoft
16-09-2008, 02:17 PM
They are like an artist with no hands killmicrosoft.
They cannot map, nor imitate what they cannot see.
What they cannot know.
can you alaborate
jennf
16-09-2008, 02:23 PM
shit f@@@ m@ this is real f@@@ f@@@ f@@@
http://www.intelligencerealm.com/aisystem/graphics.php
http://www.intelligencerealm.com/aisystem/system_center/faq.php#Q23
http://vesicle.nsi.edu/users/izhikevich/human_brain_simulation/Blue_Brain.htm#Computer%20Model%20of%20the%20Human %20Brain
http://vesicle.nsi.edu/users/izhikevich/human_brain_simulation/why.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_neural_network
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_consciousness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence
There was only one link a minute ago, lol! I think you've got something here, just been reading through the page you put on a minute ago, quite alot to take in, will have a few questions I think after :eek:
raptorialis
16-09-2008, 02:29 PM
Obscurity is the mother of all protection.
What is hidden, or secret, or subverted, or partially known cannot be captured, recorded or played back. These are the special inner things that give human kind the edge.
The result of Artificial intelligence is a computer program that simulates and articulates the real world. This "AI" represents a few programmers interpretation of 6 billion people. These 6 billion people will have multiple perspectives, dependent on mood swings and many will have multiple personalities.
So to try and simulate the whole of humanity accurately - would not be possible.
To do that, you would have wire up to the collective human spirit.
And only God can do that.
There isn't a Dell PC out there that could do it.
Thank you God.
killmicrosoft
16-09-2008, 02:34 PM
raptorialis
have you any idea what the programme you worked on is called
jennf
16-09-2008, 02:37 PM
Obscurity is the mother of all protection.
What is hidden, or secret, or subverted, or partially known cannot be captured, recorded or played back. These are the special inner things that give human kind the edge.
The result of Artificial intelligence is a computer program that simulates and articulates the real world. This "AI" represents a few programmers interpretation of 6 billion people. These 6 billion people will have multiple perspectives, dependent on mood swings and many will have multiple personalities.
So to try and simulate the whole of humanity accurately - would not be possible.
To do that, you would have wire up to the collective human spirit.
And only God can do that.
There isn't a Dell PC out there that could do it.
Thank you God.
Ok this might seem a bit far fetched, but the LHC is to try to recreate the big bang, its nickname is 'GOD'???? :confused:
raptorialis
16-09-2008, 02:49 PM
Yes, i have always called it "The Internet".
At many of the R&D establishments i have worked at they will give their piece of the program a different codename i.e Phoenix, Hydra, Project X etc etc
I use the handle
Rap-Tory-R-Lis
Raptorial is Dotcom.
The beasts are the Dotcom.
The beasts are "The Internet"
The Internet is a man-made surveillance and propaganda device. Designed to mine the collective knowledge and behaviour of humanity - in order to update over a 100million (currently disperate) databases around the world. This data can then be added to an analytics engine which will give (certain people) a top down perspective of every person on this planet. This analytics engine can then be integrated with a an AI designed (influence engine) which can effectively be used to evoke situations to influence actions and for conducting effects based warfare.
Science is driving mankinds obsessive, compulsive, desire to control itself.
To create a mirror of its own image.
A mirror that will never be a reflection of the real thing.
God does not play games.
redhead
16-09-2008, 03:27 PM
The world is the system, you are allways plugged into t - even if you are a tramp you are in the system.
how would yo ulive without the system? no house as it is paid for by the system, no food as it is the system, no clothes as it is the system.
There is a thread on this forum somewhere called Wisdom of Native American People or something like that from a couple of years ago, the Native American told us this would happen, there ultimate goal is a virtual reality world where they will tell us we will live forever have lots of benefits etc but ultimatley we will just be batterys, lots of people will fall for it and they will be lost, according to the Native American's they pull this stunt at the end of every earth (there has been 4 so far), now what he advised was to go back to the earth to sustain us as the earth is our mother, so we need to live out of the system, set up communes become self sufficiant then they have no power over us, we are only in the system because we know nothing else and have given our power away to the system and the system has become out master.
Stop being so afraid my man, you can unplug when ever you want, im not saying its going to be easy but its achivable.
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 03:29 PM
There is a thread on this forum somewhere called Wisdom of Native American People or something like that from a couple of years ago, the Native American told us this would happen, there ultimate goal is a virtual reality world where they will tell us we will live forever have lots of benefits etc but ultimatley we will just be batterys, lots of people will fall for it and they will be lost, according to the Native American's they pull this stunt at the end of every earth (there has been 4 so far), now what he advised was to go back to the earth to sustain us as the earth is our mother, so we need to live out of the system, set up communes become self sufficiant then they have no power over us, we are only in the system because we know nothing else and have given our power away to the system and the system has become out master.
Stop being so afraid my man, you can unplug when ever you want, im not saying its going to be easy but its achivable.
I give you a Gold Star for a magnificent post.
raptorialis
16-09-2008, 03:40 PM
Our bodies may well fall back to the earth, but our minds will always be everywhere. Because we are one and everything.
:)
There is a thread on this forum somewhere called Wisdom of Native American People or something like that from a couple of years ago, the Native American told us this would happen, there ultimate goal is a virtual reality world where they will tell us we will live forever have lots of benefits etc but ultimatley we will just be batterys, lots of people will fall for it and they will be lost, according to the Native American's they pull this stunt at the end of every earth (there has been 4 so far), now what he advised was to go back to the earth to sustain us as the earth is our mother, so we need to live out of the system, set up communes become self sufficiant then they have no power over us, we are only in the system because we know nothing else and have given our power away to the system and the system has become out master.
Stop being so afraid my man, you can unplug when ever you want, im not saying its going to be easy but its achivable.
eternal_spirit
16-09-2008, 03:45 PM
I cannot believe the last few posts you've missed the point You cannot hide anywhere they track you.
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 03:46 PM
I cannot believe the last few posts you've missed the point You cannot hide anywhere they track you.
(cough) thatsassumingthisthreadisanythingmorethanaMatrixfa nsfantasy (cough)
Excuse me.
redhead
16-09-2008, 04:04 PM
I cannot believe the last few posts you've missed the point You cannot hide anywhere they track you.
:D They can track us all they like, i dont care, when we decide to leave the system they will come for us like they did to all the native people who were all out of the system (Red Indians, Zulus, Aztecs, Aboriginoues etc), the axis of evil coined by the Bush Administration is the 5 country's without a centrally controlled bank hence out of the system, all we need to remember is once we've decided to leave Babylon (The System) we must never return, returning is not an option if you value your soul.
Like my man says we are everything and everything is us so why be afraid.
raptorialis
16-09-2008, 04:04 PM
They can only track what is visible eternal_spirit. They can only track what they have managed to expose. What you want them to see. Some of what they see, may be inaccurate, because you fooled them into seeing something that doesn't exist.
here is an eg.
I'm walking down the road.
Question: Why am i walking down the road?
1. To get a loaf of bread
2. As a sign to others that there is danger
3. Because i am throwing them off the scent of something
4. To stretch my legs
5. I have a bomb
6. You want them to see you on camera at that time, cause you just sent a bot out on the net to take down half a dozen government websites.
and a billion other possibiliites
So the computer says - "he is walking down the road".
Here are a billion other possibilities for "why".
And the decision engine goes...
Lets look at the history and see what he did before
Lets look at his psychological profile
Lets look at the billion possibilities
And then it thinks - F***... wonder what hes going to do next?
Answer: Lets remove all risk of failure by shooting him in the head.
To many possibilities to compute, To many possibilities to compute
:D
I cannot believe the last few posts you've missed the point You cannot hide anywhere they track you.
redhead
16-09-2008, 04:06 PM
our bodies may well fall back to the earth, but our minds will always be everywhere. Because we are one and everything.
:)
truth right here
neomagic
16-09-2008, 04:07 PM
The concept of oneness is not really understood, oneness actually means we are at one or that we are the singularity of the universe (we all connect to this singularity).
When we die we don’t not disappear, are atoms may not be bound to our bodies any more (eventually after decomposition) but our consciousness is inevitably reincarnated else where Earth or alien planet probably instantaneously.
So effectively you never actually die, you are just moved into another vessel or form of existence.
I cant at this point say if there is anything higher than this level of existence but its highly probable since the universe is infinite within a finite boundary meaning that we might be able to port through to the 4th Dimension 5th and so on which all have there own infinities within finite boundary.
In theory you will reincarnate infinite times, you may not remember it (some do) but it would appear from what I can make from the unified theory that we never cease to exist.
Meditation will give you half of the picture, I suggest trying it. :)
eternal_spirit
16-09-2008, 04:11 PM
(cough) thatsassumingthisthreadisanythingmorethanaMatrixfa nsfantasy (cough)
Excuse me.
Thermal imaging, The metallic particles in the chemtrails enter our bodies which in turn allows them to pin point our locations and track and attack us with HAARP, beam weapons etc.
They don't need to microchip us but that would be the icing on their cake, be easier for them to hook us up to the Computerised matrix the grid.
Even if you lived in the woods you'd Be like trying to hide a stick of liquorice in a plate of flower.
Most here have read and listened to how there is no escape (hopefully there is a chance....and much of this stuff we read and hear about isn't as advanced as they would have us believe)
eternal_spirit
16-09-2008, 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raptorialis http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=506204#post506204)
our bodies may well fall back to the earth, but our minds will always be everywhere. Because we are one and everything.
I want a body too! I enjoy some bodily pleasures :)
redhead
16-09-2008, 04:17 PM
Most here have read and listened to how there is no escape
:D :D
If you TRULLY believe there is no escape then you will NEVER escape, because all you will create is your own prison which you believe you cannot escape from.
To quote a zen buddist " we have NO problems only things we PERCIEVE as problems "
neomagic
16-09-2008, 04:19 PM
Thermal imaging, The metallic particles in the chemtrails enter our bodies which in turn allows them to pin point our locations and track and attack us with HAARP, beam weapons etc.
They don't need to microchip us but that would be the icing on their cake, be easier for them to hook us up to the Computerised matrix the grid.
Even if you lived in the woods you'd Be like trying to hide a stick of liquorice in a plate of flower.
Most here have read and listened to how there is no escape (hopefully there is a chance....and much of this stuff we read and hear about isn't as advanced as they would have us believe)
Carbon Kevlar body suit (undetectable heat wise) and some kind of faraday cage suit would stop any radio waves being omitted or emitted from your body.
You would then be undetectable. ;)
Admittedly finding something like that laying around isn't going to be easy, but where there is a will there is a way. :)
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 04:21 PM
truth right here
That sounded so fucking cool when I read it and looked at your avatar at the same time.
size_of_light
16-09-2008, 04:24 PM
Thermal imaging, The metallic particles in the chemtrails enter our bodies which in turn allows them to pin point our locations and track and attack us with HAARP, beam weapons etc.
They don't need to microchip us but that would be the icing on their cake, be easier for them to hook us up to the Computerised matrix the grid.
Even if you lived in the woods you'd Be like trying to hide a stick of liquorice in a plate of flower.
Most here have read and listened to how there is no escape (hopefully there is a chance....and much of this stuff we read and hear about isn't as advanced as they would have us believe)
I know eternal, I know.
But have you ever heard this phrase:
"Fucking eftpos, I dunno what the fuck's wrong with it! Why wont it swipe?!"
sindakit
16-09-2008, 04:29 PM
Hey waazzup, i have read the traveller and the dark river by John Twelve Hawks and i really liked the books. It was the traveller and 'Angels and Demons' that caused me to do further research into illuminati and then discover other stuff to the point where i'm at now, fully awakened (and now ignorant of Dan Brown) :D
I completely understand the Grid and its implementations and urge people to read the books to get a good grasp of what it's relating to, its about astral travel, hence t'he traveller'. If you like sci-fi then as a stand alone book its good but when you think of the true meanings behind the story it makes it more intense.
To a previous post, the grid doesn't not create CG people on the earth surface, like holograms, but makes a representative of real people on a system to be monitored.
To understand it more imagine, as in the new batman movie, the Dark knight, with the mapping of surroundings using the mobile phone signal. it does that using all forms of cameras, computers, credit cards etc. All interactions relay onto the 'Grid' and then produce a similar image to that seen on batman. And as a result you are consantly monitored without chips. They prob use the phones exactly as the do in batman. That may have been one of there openly hidden things that they often do in movies. Mobile radio frequencies used as a sonar like digital map of the world.
I can understand why the waazzup is saying that the chip could now be old news.
I wouldn't be surprised if we hear about the chip alot on the media, and when we say dont take it its pure enslavement evil, tptb do something that stops the chip, we, and others who are then wise to the chip, then believe we are free as we hav no chip but yet we are caught on the grid.
I'm sure they have multiple plans, the chip will not be the end of it, but its the first thing we resist for sure.
Sindakit,
Harlequin Extrordinairre :P
raptorialis
16-09-2008, 04:31 PM
This is very true redhead.
The Matrix is a self-fulfilling prohecy. If we believe it is real - It will be.
We have the power to manifest anything we want.
Fear and talk of Fear fuels the very thing, we seek to avoid.
If we are just quiet, they cannot know how and what we think.
They must therefore work much harder to gain victory.
Unite my fellows. You have much more power than you think.
If you must speak - I suggest 1 part truth and 2 part lies... that will keep em guessing.... :D :D
:D :D
If you TRULLY believe there is no escape then you will NEVER escape, because all you will create is your own prison which you believe you cannot escape from.
To quote a zen buddist " we have NO problems only things we PERCIEVE as problems "
eternal_spirit
16-09-2008, 04:32 PM
I know eternal, I know.
But have you ever heard this phrase:
"Fucking eftpos, I dunno what the fuck's wrong with it! Why wont it swipe?!"
:D
okay people you've given me some hope.
killmicrosoft
16-09-2008, 04:53 PM
http://www.google-watch.org/cgi-bin/urldemo.htm
http://www.broom.org/epic/
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/26018
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/docs/gridpp3/GridPP3_Proposal.doc
free canada
16-09-2008, 05:20 PM
Silent Weapons for Quite Wars
http://www.illuminati-news.com/silent-weapons.htm
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
"The following document, dated May 1979, was found on July 7, 1986, in an IBM copier that had been purchased at a surplus sale."
-- "Behold a Pale Horse", Milton William Cooper, pg 36
Milton William Cooper, a former Navel Intelligence Officer with the Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet, and a 38 level above tope secret clearence, read the same report in Navel Intelligence Majority Twelve file, it was listed as compiled by the Bilderberger Group.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOP SECRET
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
An introductory programming manual
Operations Research
Technical Manual
TM-SW7905.1
WELCOME ABOARD
This publication marks the 25th anniversary of the Third World War, called the "Quiet War," being conducted using subjective biological warfare, fought with "silent weapons."
This book contains an introductory description of this war, its strategies, and its weaponry.
May 1979 #74-1120
SECURITY
It is patently impossible to discuss social engineering or the automation of a society, i.e., the engineering of social automation systems (silent weapons) on a national or worldwide scale without implying extensive objectives of social control and destruction of human life, i.e., slavery and genocide.
This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of persons in a position of great power and without full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and methodology for economic conquest -- it must be understood that a state of domestic warfare exists between said person or group of persons and the public.
The solution of today's problems requires an approach which is ruthlessly candid, with no agonizing over religious, moral or cultural values.
You have qualified for this project because of your ability to look at human society with cold objectivity, and yet analyze and discuss your observations and conclusions with others of similar intellectual capacity without a loss of discretion or humility. Such virtues are exercised in your own best interest. Do not deviate from them.
HISTORICAL INTRODUCTION
Silent weapon technology has evolved from Operations Research (O.R.), a strategic and tactical methodology developed under the military management [Eisenhower] in England during World War II. The original purpose of Operations Research was to study the strategic and tactical problems of air and land defense with the objective of effective use of limited military resources against foreign enemies (i.e., logistics).
It was soon recognized by those in positions of power that the same methods might be useful for totally controlling a society. But better tools were necessary.
Social engineering (the analysis and automation of a society) requires the correlation of great amounts of constantly changing economic information (data), so a high-speed computerized data-processing system was necessary which could race ahead of the society and predict when society would arrive for capitulation.
Relay computers were too slow, but the electronic computer, invented in 1946 by J. Presper Eckert and John W. Mauchly, filled the bill.
The next breakthrough was the development of the simplex method of linear programming in 1947 by the mathematician George B. Dantzig.
Then in 1948, the transistor, invented by J. Bardeen, W. H. Brattain, and W. Shockley, promised great expansion of the computer field by reducing space and power requirements.
With these three inventions under their direction, those in positions of power strongly suspected that it was possible for them to control the whole world with the push of a button.
Immediately, the Rockefeller Foundation got in on the ground floor by making a four-year grant to Harvard College, funding the Harvard Economic Research Project for the study of the structure of the American economy. One year later, in 1949, the United States Air Force joined in.
In 1952 the original grant period terminated, and a high-level meeting of the elite was held to determine the next phase of social operations research. The Harvard project had been very fruitful, as is borne out by the publication of some of its results in 1953 suggesting the feasibility of economic (social) engineering. (Studies in the Structure of the American Economy -- copyright 1953 by Wasily Leontief, International Sciences Press Inc., White Plains, New York.)
Engineered in the last half of the decade of the 1940s, the new Quiet War machine stood, so to speak, in sparkling gold-plated hardware on the showroom floor by 1954.
With the creation of the maser in 1954, the promise of unlocking unlimited sources of fusion atomic energy from the heavy hydrogen in sea water and the consequent availability of unlimited social power was a possibility only decades away.
The combination was irresistible.
The Quiet War was quietly declared by the International Elite at a meeting held in 1954.
Although the silent weapons system was nearly exposed 13 years later, the evolution of the new weapon-system has never suffered any major setbacks.
This volume marks the 25th anniversary of the beginning of the Quiet War. Already this domestic war has had many victories on many fronts throughout the world.
POLITICAL INTRODUCTION
In 1954 it was well recognized by those in positions of authority that it was only a matter of time, only a few decades, before the general public would be able to grasp and upset the cradle of power, for the very elements of the new silent-weapon technology were as accessible for a public utopia as they were for providing a private utopia.
The issue of primary concern, that of dominance, revolved around the subject of the energy sciences.
ENERGY
Energy is recognized as the key to all activity on earth. Natural science is the study of the sources and control of natural energy, and social science, theoretically expressed as economics, is the study of the sources and control of social energy. Both are bookkeeping systems: mathematics. Therefore, mathematics is the primary energy science. And the bookkeeper can be king if the public can be kept ignorant of the methodology of the bookkeeping.
All science is merely a means to an end. The means is knowledge. The end is control. Beyond this remains only one issue: Who will be the beneficiary?
In 1954 this was the issue of primary concern. Although the so-called "moral issues" were raised, in view of the law of natural selection it was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent. (http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/)
cont... (http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/)
lightworks
19-09-2008, 07:44 PM
This is very true redhead.
The Matrix is a self-fulfilling prohecy. If we believe it is real - It will be.
We have the power to manifest anything we want.
Fear and talk of Fear fuels the very thing, we seek to avoid.
If we are just quiet, they cannot know how and what we think.
They must therefore work much harder to gain victory.
Unite my fellows. You have much more power than you think.
If you must speak - I suggest 1 part truth and 2 part lies... that will keep em guessing.... :D :D
at different times I have manifested horrendous accidents by will alone.....I have also taken part to perform complex deep healing which has baffled doctors and nurses at an ICU in sedona arizona...the patient was a motorcycle crash victim with a broken neck...he had flown off his bike head first into a roadsign.and a cage screwed into his skull to keep it still.....when I had finished this session i did for this man...I heard later from the patient's mother that "the on duty nurse in ICU was in tears saying this is a miracle.. "..all his vital signs have improved hugely since this strange guy came and did his thing"
so my perspective through being me....is that I have limitless soul power to heal.....and if needs be to do what is known as Psycic Attack.....i prfer to call this just doing what needs to be done....such as blocking malevolent reptilians.... i can and will use my abilities to help others in need by doing what has to be done ....just by my will....
so my experiences as a healer have led me to some conclusions....that yes there are reptilies....but they are just nothing...and souls like me.....well...we are here to get rid of them....I dont fear the illuminati......I always feel limitlessly powerful and resourceful in the face of tyranny...and if healing through light and hugging doesnt work....then outright vioelnce will need to happen....but I am working through healing to stop these beings...but one thing we can all do to help and to banish the reptilians entirely from this realm....is to stop feeding into this ideas that its all usless and they are the controllers....when actually the reality is that we are the 95% in complete control of our own lives and universes wheras ther are just that niggling little overzealous 5% bunch of retards...so my feeling to share with you all....is to tune into your pyscic and healing abilites...learn meditation....resist through learening the art of controlling your universe instead of being manipulated and controlled through you five sense reality
raptorialis
19-09-2008, 08:16 PM
My feeling exactly Lightworks.
We are feeding the beasts agenda.
Fueling its message. The Matrix is being made manifest, as we align our thougths toward it. We are empowering it into life.
The Matrix "concept" is a propaganda vehicle designed to send humanity into a collective trance, whilst the villians steal our souls away, behind our backs.
Do people honestly think that this website would still be online, if it didn't serve the beasts agenda?
Wake up people. The Grid is a reality on a physical plane, but it can never be operated to serve the villains if we are awake to it.
Don't fall for the magicians trick of indirection.
lightworks
19-09-2008, 08:26 PM
My feeling exactly Lightworks.
We are feeding the beasts agenda.
Fueling its message. The Matrix is being made manifest, as we align our thougths toward it. We are empowering it into life.
The Matrix "concept" is a propaganda vehicle designed to send humanity into a collective trance, whilst the villians steal our souls away, behind our backs.
Do people honestly think that this website would still be online, if it didn't serve the beasts agenda?
Wake up people. The Grid is a reality on a physical plane, but it can never be operated to serve the villains if we are awake to it.
Don't fall for the magicians trick of indirection.
tahnkyou for recognising your own limitless abitliy to tune into foster and harness your own limitless soul power....thats all I do.....if they have harassed me by close surveillance then um BANG....they they will of course find thier police cruisers/unmarked surveilance vehicles unexplainably crashing into large and unavoidable solid surface areas....I have no fear whatsoever and if immature beings choose to go to war against me....then I will just destroy them...and also make thier life hell and as difficult as possible at evry twist and turn....I am master of my universe...and no one else is.......
and as I always choose to say ,will say and continue to say
fuck authority
raptorialis
19-09-2008, 08:42 PM
Fairness and reasonable behaviour by all - is all we ask.
We seek not to inconvenience anybody and we do not want anybody to inconvenience us.
Lets all live together in peace.
There needs to be no war.
To achieve our aims - all we need do is to look away.
You see, in order to win, they need to attract our attention. Once they have our attention - we are primed for a hostile takeover. So look away from the Matrix. Close your eyes and mind to the fear mongers.
They have been useful in opening eyes, opening minds. But past a certain point, they will become counter-productive and their influence must be severed.
Matrix Hackers
truthseeker1980
25-09-2008, 02:13 PM
After reading this post last week i was talking with my friend the other day, we had quite an indepth scary discussion.
What if the grid and LHC are connected more than what Wazzzap originally said about an excuse to suck all the power for the grid.
What if the LHC is being used to open up a portal to another dimension where it's easier to control us? And the reason for the Grid is to design this prison type world, with all the databases about all of us, so when we ascend it doesn't seem any different to the unawake people or even us, as all of us are aware of the matrix theory?
What if due to the awakening or more people noticing this reality is not as we are told, they are so worried, they need to design a new prison, as we are waking up to everything being an illusion.
What if they are planning to have this all done by 2012, so when we more awake ones think we are assending into light we in actual fact are ascending into a computer prison where we are completely trapped? What with the matrix film and theory we would be both creating and ascending to exactly where they want.
If as quantum mechanical physics says time is a loop, then the LHC could be what started this universe/big bang and maybe they have always known this, so thought they would create a new reality/dimension the same way but tricking us into thinking its to understand how it started and feed us the info about the grid at the same time not expecting us to put the pieces together.
Just a few thought's i've been pondering, quite hard to get your head around though.
anahata
03-10-2008, 02:17 PM
The concept of oneness is not really understood, oneness actually means we are at one or that we are the singularity of the universe (we all connect to this singularity).
When we die we don’t not disappear, are atoms may not be bound to our bodies any more (eventually after decomposition) but our consciousness is inevitably reincarnated else where Earth or alien planet probably instantaneously.
So effectively you never actually die, you are just moved into another vessel or form of existence.
I cant at this point say if there is anything higher than this level of existence but its highly probable since the universe is infinite within a finite boundary meaning that we might be able to port through to the 4th Dimension 5th and so on which all have there own infinities within finite boundary.
In theory you will reincarnate infinite times, you may not remember it (some do) but it would appear from what I can make from the unified theory that we never cease to exist.
Meditation will give you half of the picture, I suggest trying it. :)
Wahay!! Great post :)
mr_pixie
03-10-2008, 02:47 PM
Anyone know about this? "the Grid" it has been all over the news just wanted to see if this had came to anyone elses attention.
i noticed that there are lots of posts on the surrounding "movie" but people dont seem to see the reason behind it.
your thoughs are welcome.
It could mean the stargate above the planet?
arleen3
03-10-2008, 03:49 PM
Hello,
Such a computer does exist. I have seen many of the programs over the years. In fact i have "unknowlingly" helped to design some of the software. Much of this software is backend code with a lot being contributed by the video games industry, such as AI, CGI, physics engines etc.
Many of the worlds smartest hackers have been working on it for decades. Put all this smart software engineering together and you get a computer that simulates the real world and can forecast and even evoke behaviour.
You can call it the Grid, the Matrix, or the Internet or whatever.
What it is, is science Gone mad. Scientists believe that they can actually control the population using such a toy. Science is about playing God.
But God does not Play!
What these scientists don't understand is that human kind has built in coping mechanisms for dealing with control freakery. Put a cage around an animal and that animal never develops. Put a cage around a human being and they can think the most powerful thoughts (Nelson Mandela)(Terry Waite)(Princess Diana)(Victor Frankl) + Other persecuted people.
The human spirit is whatever it needs to be, whereever it needs to be, and how ever needs to be. When caged, it finds a way out.
I have done my analysis on this computer and there are a gazillion ways you could hack it to death.
So don't worry. Let them have their games.
We await them at the pass.
It will be a F* ambush.
Matrix Hackers
Situationalist Security people deal in illusions
http://intrench.blogspot.com/2008/09/brand-killer-robots-reveal-once-you.html
http://intrench.blogspot.com/2008/04/psychology-behind-brand-killer-robots.html
I agree with you. They cannot break our spirit, even if they try to control our bodies and minds.
Thanks to David Icke I am awake now and I am thankful for that. I am doing my part though, I am sharing my investigation with everyone I know. Positive thoughts can change this reality too, I think :)
likewise
04-10-2008, 12:11 PM
...
EDIT: You mentioned reading people's minds. Why would they need to develop a predictive model of your behaviour in a virtual reality world if they had the capability to read your mind anyway?
...
I can't seem to find the spot where wazaaap (explicitly) mentions "reading people's minds", nor has anyone picked up size_of_light's cue, as far as I can see.
Total control by any prospective / existing super-puppet-master hinges on his telepathic powers (whether natural or tech-aided), and the ability of any puppets to foreclose / escape total control hinges on their realisation that their (under-developed and unprotected) minds can, indeed, be thoroughly read.
eternal_spirit
04-10-2008, 03:47 PM
How do you protect your mind?
amethyst
04-10-2008, 05:01 PM
Hello,
Such a computer does exist. I have seen many of the programs over the years. In fact i have "unknowlingly" helped to design some of the software. Much of this software is backend code with a lot being contributed by the video games industry, such as AI, CGI, physics engines etc.
Many of the worlds smartest hackers have been working on it for decades. Put all this smart software engineering together and you get a computer that simulates the real world and can forecast and even evoke behaviour.
You can call it the Grid, the Matrix, or the Internet or whatever.
What it is, is science Gone mad. Scientists believe that they can actually control the population using such a toy. Science is about playing God.
But God does not Play!
What these scientists don't understand is that human kind has built in coping mechanisms for dealing with control freakery. Put a cage around an animal and that animal never develops. Put a cage around a human being and they can think the most powerful thoughts (Nelson Mandela)(Terry Waite)(Princess Diana)(Victor Frankl) + Other persecuted people.
The human spirit is whatever it needs to be, whereever it needs to be, and how ever needs to be. When caged, it finds a way out.
I have done my analysis on this computer and there are a gazillion ways you could hack it to death.
So don't worry. Let them have their games.
We await them at the pass.
It will be a F* ambush.
Matrix Hackers
Situationalist Security people deal in illusions
http://intrench.blogspot.com/2008/09/brand-killer-robots-reveal-once-you.html
http://intrench.blogspot.com/2008/04/psychology-behind-brand-killer-robots.html
But God does not Play!
What these scientists don't understand is that human kind has built in coping mechanisms for dealing with control freakery. Put a cage around an animal and that animal never develops. Put a cage around a human being and they can think the most powerful thoughts (Nelson Mandela)(Terry Waite)(Princess Diana)(Victor Frankl) + Other persecuted people.
The human spirit is whatever it needs to be, whereever it needs to be, and how ever needs to be. When caged, it finds a way out.
Right. And in anything "man-made', there is always an inherent weakness. Always. Some defect. Some fault.
This reminds me of a movie I just saw called "Eagle Eye". It's about this super computer gone "mad"......gone "mad" on it's own logic.
raptorialis
04-10-2008, 06:11 PM
The very act of trying to protect your mind from the grid, results in the fatal thoughts that make you believe that it could some day possibly take control of your mind. That is when you are vulnerable and open to attack.
It is a sad fact that the least prepared mind, is in fact the least susceptible too its influence. You see, the grid works on the imagination. The greater your imagination, the more susceptible you are to its power.
How do you protect your mind?
runciter
10-12-2008, 08:48 AM
Researchers Plan to Simulate Movements of 300 Million Americans
Published: 23 hours ago, 04:20 EST, December 09, 2008
(PhysOrg.com) -- Researchers from Virginia Tech are developing a computer simulation that matches the movements of all 300 million people in towns across the US. The team hopes that the model will help them understand the spread of contagious diseases, fads, and traffic flows.
Currently, the researchers' model consists of about 100 million Americans, and they expect to be able to simulate the movement of all 300 million US residents in the next six months. To achieve this, the researchers use large amounts of publicly available demographic data, mostly from the US Census. Each synthetic American possesses as many as 163 variables, which describe characteristics such as age, education level, occupation, and whether one lives with a family or alone.
The software, called EpiSimdemics, can provide an accurate simulation of the demographic attributes of groups composed of 1500 people or more. Based on the data, the software generates individuals to populate real US cities, giving them real street addresses and real jobs or schools within a reasonable distance from their address. Individuals are also matched to local grocery stores and shopping centers, which are identified through a database from Navteq, a digital mapping company.
One of the first applications for compiling all this data will be studying how contagious diseases, such as a flu epidemic, might spread through different regions. The software infects a few simulated individuals with the flu, and tracks them as they go about their daily lives. The model gives each person a different probability of responding to the virus, derived from the individual's data, such as age and general health.
Using data from all the interactions between infected individuals and others, the algorithm determines the number of new infections. The software treats each person and location as a separate set of calculations, so that many parts can be computed in parallel on a supercomputer. By breaking up the problem in this way, the researchers could significantly speed up the calculations.
By showing the path that a virus takes through a population, the simulation can help researchers implement effective public health intervention programs. The simulation can also determine when the infection peaks, representing the biggest burden on a city's health system, and preparing officials.
"The vision is for a Google-like interface, where you approach the system and ask it a question," says Christopher Barrett, who works on the project and is the director of Virginia Tech's Network Dynamics and Simulation Science Laboratory. "The framework is there, and now we're pushing the system to larger and larger scales."
via: IEEE Spectrum
http://www.physorg.com/news148018856.html
duckingdafta
10-12-2008, 10:56 AM
How do you protect your mind?
easy... Tin Foil Hat (http://www.stopabductions.com/)