Very urgent!

[loveemotion]

Hello.
I have gave an idea to the one of the moderators to add a new sub directory to the forums about Andromedans(benevelant- not sure how to spell that need correction) Pleideans

As i see it... most of subdirectories of this forums focused on the bad side as it is beed said Reptilians, Greys are bad and some more races that are messing with us on a bigger scale.

My proposal is to create a new subdirectory to show the light side in its true natural, loving, preserving the life, light and love, form.

Please help us to go the right way.
You got my vote! I think its urgent for this information to be shared with the rest, we cannot only talk about the bad things like illuminati and reppies greys... clones.. we all know about it...
We need the light of the truth... please talk to Administrators to help us free ourselves!
Thank you very much
LAL

[avatar]

Good luck!

[loveemotion]

Good luck!

It is not a matter of luck.. but a matter of moderators undestanding that it has to be created
LAL

[yinjing]

You've got my vote

You can't say aliens without thinking abduction.
If people have anything positive to say about alien contacts, spirits, angels enlightenment etc. it would be nice to have a section about it too.
In fact there's too much hairsplitting to do in this in my opinion.
Not least because of all the sites on the web which have this
"new age-cult-vibe " to them.
Enlightenment and Illuminati also seem mixed up sometimes, especially with the Christian dogmas.

Much has been said about DI on this forum and I'd hate to bring up his name again. Nonetheless I wonder if people forget that DI himself apparently was "enlightened" by some invisible entity/energy. But little have been explained about that except from what I've read in his books.
(This is not an invite to discuss DI's person or credibility, the topic is helpers/guides etc.)

The only reason why I came across DI was by "accident" on amazon.com while looking up the books of Marciniak.

[infinitely free]

We need the light of the truth... please talk to Administrators to help us free ourselves!
Thank you very much
LAL

You know loveemotion,
when there's light (as the one extreme), what's to stop darkness from coming back ?

[yinjing]

infinitely free, I guess that depends on whether darkness is the opposite force of light as in + and - charge or you view darkness as the absence of light/consciousness. In the latter there is nothing that needs to be "balanced".

[lumukanda]

loveemotion, why not start a thread on the subject (not this one, one where you can highlight what it's all about etc etc)?
we can have a look and see if there is a need for a whole forum dedicated to it, tbh my knowledge is a bit slim on the subject, so i'd be quite interested to see what info you have to show us.

[adramelech]

I'm going to be nice and not start a debate on the validity of the New Age "Pleiadian" claptrap and people like Billy Meier. However, this is a David Icke forum. For all of the things David has discussed, he's certainly never brought up the topic of Ashtar Command coming to save us, other than to debunk it.

[loveemotion]

I seek the info about them too.. so far i only got video on youtube of Alex collier contactee ( not an abductee) to the Andromedans...
They human looking once... originally all human life form created in Lyra.. then there was a war between light and dark... usually it was between humans and the once that a reptilian form.. and others.. we probably dont know of yet...

I know there wer a lot of contactees to andromedans.. and i want them to speak out and share with us the enlightment they have reseived or witnessed.

It is very important they share with us.. because thats what andromedans asked them to do.. to share the information to prepare us for the upcoming wave of uplifting of 4th density.

I geeting most of my information from Alex collier... website and videos he got..

But it very outdated intel on whats really goign on.

We need some contactees who knows whats going on right now! at this pick of time.

The battle is here in our solar system... between Love and Fear.. thats why some people expirience strange things... some people tell us time is speeding up... whats happening is...

there was never an phenomenon in recoreded history for a frequency that coming out of the black holes.. never happened before... andromedans probably think its because its almost time for us to move to the 4th and 5th densities... apparently.. we have a DNA structure of 22 races within us.. thats why Andromedans consider us royalty..
We have a great potential to do good and we are the missing link in the bigger picture that is out there for evolution.. evolvement.. whatever you call it...

We need more info about the positive sides of whats going on.
I beg Moderators And Administrators to create a new subdirectory so we could discuss this... otherwise the light wont have any long term.

With great power comes even greater responsability.

LAL(love and light)

[avatar]

It is not a matter of luck.. but a matter of moderators undestanding that it has to be created
LAL

Interesting that you totally re-edited this post from your earlier comment.

Actually I was being sarcastic but whatever..

I'm won't be quite as tactful as Adramelech. I don't think this forum needs a section dedicated to how the good aliens are going to save us, there is enough of that stench on the internet already.

[loveemotion]

I'm going to be nice and not start a debate on the validity of the New Age "Pleiadian" claptrap and people like Billy Meier. However, this is a David Icke forum. For all of the things David has discussed, he's certainly never brought up the topic of Ashtar Command coming to save us, other than to debunk it.


To my understanding David Icke dont see the whole picture that is here..
for some reason he is trying to concentrate our imagination if you will.. to the physical part of the happening... what about the spiritual part of it? where did it go.. simply he is a link in the information.. and not a spiritual one... we are missing something guys... i feel it... we need the spiritual truth...
LAL

[loveemotion]

You know loveemotion,
when there's light (as the one extreme), what's to stop darkness from coming back ?

Ok, infinitely free, lets just say light is spiritual and dark is too.... so what creates the dark... well might seem very immature but thats one way looking at it....

Light - spiritual
Dark- spiritual

And what creates the dark? The physical body of the spiritual dark or light creates itself on the foreground of the light ( ihope that we'd do it but ill explain more)

Imagine a room full of light
only light that is there.. nothing else
But then a physical body comes in.. and brings a shadow along with him..

So it would look like a room full of light... a physical body and a shadow behind it casted by the light and physical body itself...

Thats my understanding of it. And hopefully an answer on your question ;)
LAL

[loveemotion]

Interesting that you totally re-edited this post from your earlier comment.

Actually I was being sarcastic but whatever..

I'm won't be quite as tactful as Adramelech. I don't think this forum needs a section dedicated to how the good aliens are going to save us, there is enough of that stench on the internet already.

My dear, Avatar let me share with you some stuff here..
You need to understand that not all the aliens are bad. I believe that human looking ones' are good and trying or thinking about trying to help us..

Please research mroe of the Andromedans for your own enlightment... because if you will think they are all bad.. who can you trust? we cant even trust our own government for crying out loud.

And please guys, if you have any questions... i will reply if i have an answer to it :rolleyes:

[anoninnyc]

To my understanding David Icke dont see the whole picture that is here..
for some reason he is trying to concentrate our imagination if you will.. to the physical part of the happening... what about the spiritual part of it? where did it go.. simply he is a link in the information.. and not a spiritual one... we are missing something guys... i feel it... we need the spiritual truth...
LAL


what about his infinite love thing? i dont know if you have even read icke, you seem to not get that his real focus is on the spiritual, on what we focus our energy on.... love.... that the illuminati feed on fear....

[21_12_2012]

Hello.
I have gave an idea to the one of the moderators to add a new sub directory to the forums about Andromedans(benevelant- not sure how to spell that need correction) Pleideans

As i see it... most of subdirectories of this forums focused on the bad side as it is beed said Reptilians, Greys are bad and some more races that are messing with us on a bigger scale.

My proposal is to create a new subdirectory to show the light side in its true natural, loving, preserving the life, light and love, form.

Please help us to go the right way.
You got my vote! I think its urgent for this information to be shared with the rest, we cannot only talk about the bad things like illuminati and reppies greys... clones.. we all know about it...
We need the light of the truth... please talk to Administrators to help us free ourselves!
Thank you very much
LAL

I think it would be good to have a section with Pleiadian/Andromedan information.
I have read quite a few 'channeled' books by Barbara Hand Clow, Amorah Quan Yin, Barbara Marciniak and there should be no reason to dismiss the information on these subjects, or Billi Meier.
Just because many people say it is disinfo, doesn't mean it is.

There is too much negative stuff to focus on on this forum...a bit of 'light' is needed.

[yinjing]

just for the record: I didn't join this thread to be associated with new-age claptrap. My point was that the "alien connection" here seem to be predominantly "x-file-style" Thus if someone have had some non-negative experiences or thoughts, which thread would then suit them best?

[eternal_spirit]

To my understanding David Icke dont see the whole picture that is here..
for some reason he is trying to concentrate our imagination if you will.. to the physical part of the happening... what about the spiritual part of it? where did it go.. simply he is a link in the information.. and not a spiritual one... we are missing something guys... i feel it... we need the spiritual truth...
LAL

Who or what had David Icke channeled????????

[avatar]

My dear, Avatar let me share with you some stuff here..
You need to understand that not all the aliens are bad.

I didn't say they were.

However, you need to understand that a lot of these entities being channeled and messages from Pleiadians and Andromedeans helping us ascend and activating our DNA are dangerous deceptions.

I am familiar with Alex Collier and other sources you have cited.

[loveemotion]

what about his infinite love thing? i dont know if you have even read icke, you seem to not get that his real focus is on the spiritual, on what we focus our energy on.... love.... that the illuminati feed on fear....

You are right about many things.
I havent read any book written by David Icke.
He does focus our energy on illuminati too much

What he doesnt do... is focus our energies to love mroe then illuminati.

I have a question for you my dearest friend... how can you describe spiritual? in your own words :rolleyes:

[loveemotion]

I didn't say they were.

However, you need to understand that a lot of these entities being channeled and messages from Pleiadians and Andromedeans helping us ascend and activating our DNA are dangerous deceptions.

I am familiar with Alex Collier and other sources you have cited.

yes it is dangerous.. but dont you want to be who you really are?

[yinjing]

The other question I was trying to raise is: Wasn't DI himself being enlightened in South America when he was contacted by invisible entities?
What happened to them/that since?

[yinjing]

Avatar, I'd like to hear your opinion on mono-atomic gold.
It is being advertised on this site and if I'm not wrong DI himself has taken it.
Is this too a deception? Or is it a deception that it's a deception?

[avatar]

Avatar, I'd like to hear your opinion on mono-atomic gold.
It is being advertised on this site and if I'm not wrong DI himself has taken it.
Is this too a deception? Or is it a deception that it's a deception?

I personally wouldn't ingest any metal unless its via plants (Natural food)
Gold has excellent etheric properties. These properties and Golds very high ductility are the result of Golds unique matrix properties.

Who knows what ingesting mono-atomic metals could do to your brain and/or DNA.

Mono Atomic Gold -Think Twice

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/monoatomicgoldthinktwice15aug05.shtml

[yinjing]

Avatar, I've read that link already, but I do not find it conclusive in anyway.
More like a reason for further research.

Do you not recognize the fact that David had an encounter with some entities in South America? And that he said in an interview that an energy was beamed through him for like an hour or so while he couldn't move and that he was told that it'd be over when the rain comes?

[avatar]

Do you not recognize the fact that David had an encounter with some entities in South America? And that he said in an interview that an energy was beamed through him for like an hour or so while he couldn't move and that he was told that it'd be over when the rain comes?

Yes I am aware of this account.

re: mono-atomic gold, you will be better of talking to someone who has taken it on a regular basis. Try contacting Craig Oxley at The Unhived Mind he will be able to help you more than I.

Known as 2tuff here actually so you can PM him.

[loveemotion]

Ok some responsabilities must be assigned here...
I dont know what is DI... can anyone pelase explain?

And please talk About not forces.... but Andromedans...
thank you

[edelweiss pirate]

Enlightenment and Illuminati also seem mixed up sometimes, especially with the Christian dogmas.

Don't know if you're referring to me there YingJing... People on the other forum tried to make out I was a Christian in order to label me and make it easier to file me away in a comfortable box which made it easier for them to feel superior to the information I was posting.

I'm not a Christian. But the warnings in the Bible about dabling in the occult are just the result of thousands of years of people suffering for doing just that. In the same way parts of the old testament actually give medical advice (albeit primitive) on how to deal with a variety of skin infections.

Just good advice is all...

Anyway Jesus is a classic example of an enlightened/illuminated human who came through the experience relatively sane (but not I suspect, very happy)...

Most I suggest, aren't so lucky.

If you do get involved in the occult you are taking quite a chance, navigating the unseen world, you're gonna need a lot of light is all I will say...

Anyway, isn't all this Pleaidians stuff just the other side of the secret society coin... White brotherhood and all that.. It's also opening yourself to something which could be an enormous con... Especially as we hear so many stories of possession and mind control on this forum alone....

If aliens wanna see me they can call me on the phone or knock on my door.. I ain't gonna have anyone or anything getting straight into my mind...

I mean, you wouldn't even feel comfortable letting your best mate do that...

Come on Pleadians, give me a call.. You surely know my number!

[yinjing]

Avatar, I do not have any plans for taking any metals. The reason for asking you this question was in relation to the DNA activation issue.
One of the reasons why I fail to see this deception you're talking about is that I fail to see what the DNA activation in itself is about. I haven't found a source that properly could explain this phenomena to me.
What I do believe to understand is that the earth is having a change of frequency and thus the life forms on her too can/will change as well.
It may be an illusion in the matrix but it still look real enough to me.
Where is the "conspiracy" in that?

Loveemotion, DI = David Icke.
And I talk about energies and entities only. If these Andromedans exists they are only one group of many.

[yinjing]

Quote: But the warnings in the Bible about dabling in the occult are just the result of thousands of years of people suffering for doing just that.

I thought that it was common "DI everything's illusion matrix" belief that religious dogmas was made to install fear and suppress people into believing a particular religion. And as I am all I am has pointed out what is the right version of the bible and what is not?

Are you telling me that every person with psychic/occult "powers" suffers in some way? I'm aware of you saying something about bad experiences with the illuminati but it is that which I'm trying to separate from the natural process of change in this spiritual awakening.

Are we not as DI says not already enlightened, we just need to break through the eggshell and reconnect with mission control (which is not mind control but creativity and intuition)

[avatar]

I fail to see what the DNA activation in itself is about. I haven't found a source that properly could explain this phenomena to me.

Thats because its a con.

What I do believe to understand is that the earth is having a change of frequency and thus the life forms on her too can/will change as well.
It may be an illusion in the matrix but it still look real enough to me.


Frustrating isn't it?

If you do get involved in the occult you are taking quite a chance, navigating the unseen world, you're gonna need a lot of light is all I will say...Anyway, isn't all this Pleaidians stuff just the other side of the secret society coin... White brotherhood and all that.. It's also opening yourself to something which could be an enormous con... Especially as we hear so many stories of possession and mind control on this forum alone....

Exactly!

Nice to see someone recognizing the influence of the GWB.

[21_12_2012]

I fail to see what the DNA activation in itself is about. I haven't found a source that properly could explain this phenomena to me.

Thats because its a con.

What makes you so certain that it is a con?
Have you measured any DNA changes, or seen into the future past 2012?

[yinjing]

is the GWB (George W Bush??) not a theosophic creation? How can you connect that to ETs? And to the illuminati and reptilians? Who's the boss then?

[eternal_spirit]

is the GWB (George W Bush??) not a theosophic creation? How can you connect that to ETs? And to the illuminati and reptilians? Who's the boss then?

GWB = Great Whit brotherhood of discarnate entities, channeled by psychic mediums some say its disinfo. I belive it to be this.

[adramelech]

http://home.comcast.net/~adramelech/images/nesaraimagesm.jpg

http://www.metallibrary.ru/bands/discographies/images/gamma_ray/pictures/01_no_world_order.jpg

[yinjing]

it should be clear from my post that I knew what GWB was, I just made a bush-joke.
Before I was born couldn't I be one of those discarnate entities channeled by medium hypothetically?

I have a problem with parts of the above 5 sense level conspiracy not because of fixed belief but rather because I fail to see the logic in tying everything together in the way it's currently being done.

[loveemotion]

Quote: But the warnings in the Bible about dabling in the occult are just the result of thousands of years of people suffering for doing just that.

I thought that it was common "DI everything's illusion matrix" belief that religious dogmas was made to install fear and suppress people into believing a particular religion. And as I am all I am has pointed out what is the right version of the bible and what is not?

Are you telling me that every person with psychic/occult "powers" suffers in some way? I'm aware of you saying something about bad experiences with the illuminati but it is that which I'm trying to separate from the natural process of change in this spiritual awakening.

Are we not as DI says not already enlightened, we just need to break through the eggshell and reconnect with mission control (which is not mind control but creativity and intuition)

I think what bible is trying to say is this:
When the time comes for you to ascend( ithink that the word :P ).. people that cant ascend or simply doesnt want to... their soul wil lbecome very heavy and its like a sack... all this heavy souls will be on the button of the sack. When it reachest the point of breaking... they will reincarnate again and wait for years again.. to have the cycle repeat itself again and again and again.. until you get it right! if you run in circles, well thats what you're doing... but im oing one step farther..
Good luck :P
LAL

[eternal_spirit]

it should be clear from my post that I knew what GWB was, I just made a bush-joke.
Before I was born couldn't I be one of those discarnate entities channeled by medium hypothetically?

I have a problem with parts of the above 5 sense level conspiracy not because of fixed belief but rather because I fail to see the logic in tying everything together in the way it's currently being done.

LOL, One name Madame Blavatsky(GWB channeler) a creation of the Illuminati, her books and teaching where heavily promoted.

Okay..... the highest levels of the Illuminati believe their anscetors where perfect spirits and willed and manifested perfect physical bodies to incarnate into.
They bred with the earth people and in time their mixed DNA became corrupted to a lesser state of being.
That's one reason they are obsessed with keeping their bloodlines pure so they can keep on incarnating into what they perceive to be a superior being, Through genetic engineering also, they like to play at being God.

[avatar]

is the GWB (George W Bush??) not a theosophic creation?

The Great White Brotherhood is a Theosophical creation by name only. Just as the same group who are now known as The Jesuits were around long before adopting that name as a front to infiltrate the Vatican.

When I lived in Sydney their was a small outfit holding meetings for free teaching people how to operate in the Astral. After some time with this group I discovered that the talented ones were being encouraged to meet with Ascended Masters, use strange mantras and visit White Lodge Universities in the Astral. Yes thats right, special learning centers, large buildings devoted to teaching exist in the Astral. This is the Great White Brotherhood. They exploit talented individuals for their own needs and are a nefarious group. This outfit are a lot bigger know and run free astral courses on the internet that are very popular.

How can you connect that to ETs?

The GWB relate to the New Age Movement kind of like SIS/CIA relate to drugs, arms and terrorism. They influence and control a lot of the channeling groups and conciousness movements.
The Ascended Masters, so-called helpful ETs, some channeled entites (some are electronic), fallen angels are all very closely related.

The "good aliens" are not going to come and save the day. This is our problem and other races will be very reluctant to interfere with the "Karma" of this planet.

[yinjing]

eternal_spirit, that's one way to look at it.
Other researchers claim that she just invented the names on beings she claimed to be channeling and that she was furious to see other psychics start channeling fabricated names. Since then it has spun off into a big new age cocktail of just about everything.
How and why does this relate to a) the potential of ETs/UFOs from other planets with a non-malevolent intent? and b) the existence of discarnate entities that are not part of illuminati - which is why I mentioned the early encounter David Icke himself made. I mean I was myself such an entity before I was born unless I just popped into existence at that time. If there's such thing as reincarnation then who says it's confined to the boundaries of this planet?

[adramelech]

The Ascended Masters, so-called helpful ETs, some channeled entites (some are electronic), fallen angels are all very closely related.


Up to 90% of "channeled" information is most likely electronic in nature.

[yinjing]

avatar, if the illuminati is so well covered, then how is this spiritual awakening/reconnection with oneness going to come about?
From your point of view I'm sure you got all bases covered.
I'm just trying to do a little deception and deception-about-deception separation.

[eternal_spirit]

eternal_spirit, that's one way to look at it.
Other researchers claim that she just invented the names on beings she claimed to be channeling and that she was furious to see other psychics start channeling fabricated names. Since then it has spun off into a big new age cocktail of just about everything.
How and why does this relate to a) the potential of ETs/UFOs from other planets with a non-malevolent intent? and b) the existence of discarnate entities that are not part of illuminati - which is why I mentioned the early encounter David Icke himself made. I mean I was myself such an entity before I was born unless I just popped into existence at that time. If there's such thing as reincarnation then who says it's confined to the boundaries of this planet?

Different names same source maybe. Look at all the names they have for Jesus (yaweh etc) and Gods and Goddesses, usually turns out to be the same person, or entity.
The good aliens could be actors pretending to be good, Satan is always known as the great deciever (I don't follow christianity btw)

It's a nice belief that good Et's are helping man kind, but I've yet to see any real evidence of this, if they're so advance and powerfull why dont they change the world into a better place instead of communicating through channelings.

I don't think even David I knows the true source of the voices he heard guiding him etc, I think maybe he explained it as part of his own higher levels of consciousness guiding him. His wife Pamela, I don't know much about, does she channel spirits??? David has had information from other channelers in the past.

I agree the physical and spiritual realms are vast, I have no memory of past life incarnations and even if I thought I did, it could just be my imagination, with reading up on the subject. Sorry I have no answers.

[yinjing]

adramelech, do you have a link to substantiate that claim?
and do you claim that the last 10% is illuminati related?

[adramelech]

adramelech, do you have a link to substantiate that claim?
and do you claim that the last 10% is illuminati related?

I claim that a great majority is "Illuminati related". Modern New Age "channeling" as far as the Space Brothers and Ashtar Command go, started heavily in the mid-60s. Stewart Swerdlow and others have done research connecting this to NSA satellite transmission projects and similiar electronic mind control experiments. It became necessary to incorporate the same "cosmic saviour" meme into the budding New Age religion that the elite had inserted into most world religions.

The saviour from the sky scenario is very important to the overall scenario laid out by Project Bluebeam/Greenstar, etc..

[avatar]

avatar, if the illuminati is so well covered, then how is this spiritual awakening/reconnection with oneness going to come about?
From your point of view I'm sure you got all bases covered.
I'm just trying to do a little deception and deception-about-deception separation.

LOL I assure you I have not got all bases covered by a long shot. I have experienced what I have and I have learnt from it. Usually the hard way.

I should point out that there are Universal Laws that cannot be broken and that there are higher powers or a single higher intelligence in my experience that does influence events. The "Illuminati" are only as powerful as we make them.

There is a rise in conciousness going on right know, and they are scared, very scared, they know that if we as a race realized our potential that we could crush them in a second and they are trying everything they can to stop this awakening.

However it is important to realize that this mass awakening is not guaranteed. They are banking on us missing the opportunity by suppressing our awakening potential with chemicals in food, water, drugs, vaccines, chemtrails, mass mind programming, yada yada you know the drill.

They want us implanted before this peaks so they can completely prevent any uprising or evolution.

[john white]

Hello.
I have gave an idea to the one of the moderators to add a new sub directory to the forums about Andromedans(benevelant- not sure how to spell that need correction) Pleideans

As i see it... most of subdirectories of this forums focused on the bad side as it is beed said Reptilians, Greys are bad and some more races that are messing with us on a bigger scale.

My proposal is to create a new subdirectory to show the light side in its true natural, loving, preserving the life, light and love, form.

Please help us to go the right way.
You got my vote! I think its urgent for this information to be shared with the rest, we cannot only talk about the bad things like illuminati and reppies greys... clones.. we all know about it...
We need the light of the truth... please talk to Administrators to help us free ourselves!
Thank you very much
LAL

Go start your own forum then? Its not as hard as it might seem, I've done it myself (twice). But don't agitate on this one just becuase it's not giving prominance to your personal favourite world view, especially not without checking out what Ickes own view on "Ashatar command" is

I'm going to be nice and not start a debate on the validity of the New Age "Pleiadian" claptrap and people like Billy Meier. However, this is a David Icke forum. For all of the things David has discussed, he's certainly never brought up the topic of Ashtar Command coming to save us, other than to debunk it.

Your too kind Adra! But just for fun, lets see what icke does have to say:

(paraphrased)

Bollocks!

For a more in-depth analysis, try "Infinite Love is the Only Truth", Chapter Seven:

"Old Age, New Age, Same Story"

[lumukanda]

i a glad to see that at least two people here share a similiar sentiment to me.

[eternal_spirit]

Your too kind Adra! But just for fun, lets see what icke does have to say:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Icke
(paraphrased)

Bollocks!
lmao :D

Btw john what's the names of you're forums????

[john white]

The ever infamous www.illusionsforum.com, and www.malvernmessages.com, soon getting a re-launch now I'm getting into public speaking and video making

[avatar]

I'm getting into public speaking and video making

Awesome. On what subjects?

[eternal_spirit]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8425/3demoticons202bm6.gif

Cool we'll be clapping you on John.

[loveemotion]

It's a nice belief that good Et's are helping man kind, but I've yet to see any real evidence of this, if they're so advance and powerfull why dont they change the world into a better place instead of communicating through channelings.

i believe the answer is why they wont change it because, Life as you know here, doesnt work everywhere. The life out there works in one principal.. Free Will. Apparently they said it is against the law to intervene with an evolving race (us).. and also if they save us, they dont want us to consider them Gods.. well i wont i know for sure lol... we are all queal.. If we wanna be rescued, apparently we have to ask for it (free will)
LAL

[john white]

Awesome. On what subjects?

All subjects!

I've got a talked lined up for the end of this month covering essential nature of reality info and juxtaposing popping some illusions about money and banking. All being well, there will be a googlevid to share around soon after. I hope to give some interesting perspectives from my own POV... anyway, I'll say more nearer the time...

[_invisibleplane_]

if positive/peaceful et's exist, then they no doubt believe in free will. who's to say they haven't contacted govt/military and, before they further connections they wish to see the end of all nuclear arms/end connections with negative entities. Wouldn't be surprising to see military/govt rejecting such wishes, especially if they are in contact with certain entities who are providing an exchange of technology for human experimenting..

another possibility is that they see this as a very important time for humanity's growth, and instead of interfering they want to see mankind get through this on their own/learn for themselves, but of course if there are negative entities interfering with our growth that would raise the question of if they should step in or not

clearly the ashtar command stuff is a load, but why do we all feel such a connection/feeling when we gaze at the stars? could it be that we feel there is so much more out there because we have experienced it in past lives?
I'm open to there being similar human/hominoid races existing..it will be interesting to see what exists on planet x/nibiru

[eternal_spirit]

i believe the answer is why they wont change it because, Life as you know here, doesnt work everywhere. The life out there works in one principal.. Free Will. Apparently they said it is against the law to intervene with an evolving race (us).. and also if they save us, they dont want us to consider them Gods.. well i wont i know for sure lol... we are all queal.. If we wanna be rescued, apparently we have to ask for it (free will)
LAL

Don't mean to sound negative, but I've heard this theory before, sounds like an excuse for them not to do anything to help us and many would say it proves they dont exist or they're not on our side. Maybe I'm wrong, only time will till.

I've also heard that the Earth is an important planet in the greater sheme of things the universe(creation) important for harmony being connected to the well being of other planets and life forms(aliens spirtis etc) So if they wanted to hep us they would also be helping to save other life froms and even themselves.

[them]

All subjects!

Do you know anything about what this lot get up to in Malvern, John?

http://www.dstl.gov.uk/

http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/project/coax/ttcp/photo-malvern-24oct2001-audience.jpg

http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/project/coax/ttcp/malvern-24oct01.html

[loveemotion]

Don't mean to sound negative, but I've heard this theory before, sounds like an excuse for them not to do anything to help us and many would say it proves they dont exist or they're not on our side. Maybe I'm wrong, only time will till.

I've also heard that the Earth is an important planet in the greater sheme of things the universe(creation) important for harmony being connected to the well being of other planets and life forms(aliens spirtis etc) So if they wanted to hep us they would also be helping to save other life froms and even themselves.

It has been told that our planet has been brouhgt closer to the sun... and then moved a little bit farther.

They are tyring to help us... by numerous of contactees and they are also enlightning more people astrally or on a spiritual level.

Find your path.
LAL

[john white]

Right, so we have genuine ET's who won't interfere...which makes them interesting, but means we still have to get on with dealing with our own mess. I'm up for that

Or we have Faux ET's (either in intention or becuase they are beamed from microwave weapons HQ) telling us they going to magically fix the situation and all we have to do is sit on our butts and think nicely about them.

Anyone ever heard of the "I am" cult? We are talking about "anyday now" Ashtar command stories going back before the 1930's

Heplful ET's who actually wanted to help (even if it was just landing to tell us what a bunch of dicks we are): that I can go for

Anything else is, whichever way we cut it, just a distraction from getting on with the hard work we have to do, freeing the world one mind at a time, starting with our own

[john white]

Do you know anything about what this lot get up to in Malvern, John?

http://www.dstl.gov.uk/

http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/project/coax/ttcp/photo-malvern-24oct2001-audience.jpg

http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/project/coax/ttcp/malvern-24oct01.html

Is this outfit connected to Quinetiq? Well, we dont know much. The wall of secrecy/freemasonry is rather solid with regards to anything that goes on: I've never come across ANY bean spilling. I do know that they are owned by the Carlise group, so thats a link right back to the Neocon NWO agenda right there. End of the day, its a good illustration of how secrets can and are kept, and how human beings who are more than likely good fathers and care for their kids etc can be involved in who-knows-what. Sorry to say that daring commando raid infiltrations I am NOT up for...

One tidbit I have found out is that there used to be two rail tunnells under the malverns, one got taken over during the 2nd world war, and has never been given back...

[quelyn]

WELL FINALLY!
I for one would be interested in a forum focused on love, light, the positive, what we can do for ourselves/planet and are there really any beings supporting our evolving.
Why is it up for discussion? Who cares if some people aren't interested.........they don't have to be involved. Everyone should have a voice. Respect each other!

[john white]

WELL FINALLY!
I for one would be interested in a forum focused on love, light, the positive, what we can do for ourselves/planet and are there really any beings supporting our evolving.
Why is it up for discussion? Who cares if some people aren't interested.........they don't have to be involved. Everyone should have a voice. Respect each other!

And you cant find it in this lot?

I'd have a look again perhaps...


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[bicycle]

I can spot 4 positive forums in Johns post, if i had to choose 1 it would be the awakening.

Btw John your avatar reminds me of the film hellraiser:eek:

[john white]

I can spot 4 positive forums in Johns post, if i had to choose 1 it would be the awakening.

Btw John your avatar reminds me of the film hellraiser:eek:

I'll email Alex Grey and let him know

"Angels to some: Demons to others"

[bicycle]

I'll email Alex Grey and let him know

"Angels to some: Demons to others"

Well i hope its not the 'angel' thats been communicating with royal adams:mad:

[john white]

Well i hope its not the 'angel' thats been communicating with royal adams:mad:

Its not very likely :)

[i_am]

I can spot 4 positive forums in Johns post, if i had to choose 1 it would be the awakening.



OR UFOS/ETS as this was what loveemotion originally posted:

I have gave an idea to the one of the moderators to add a new sub directory to the forums about Andromedans(benevelant- not sure how to spell that need correction) Pleideans

You could call the thread Benevolent ETS or something :)

[adramelech]

"Angels to some: Demons to others"

"Meister Eckart saw Hell, you know what he said? The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn 'em all away. But they're not punishing you, he said. They're freeing your soul, if you're frightened of dying and holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace then the devils are really angels freeing you from the earth. It's just a matter of how you look at it. As long as you are afraid of death, the evil demons will torment you, but when you let go and aren't afraid anymore, you'll find those demons to be angels."

;)

[tru3]

LOL, One name Madame Blavatsky(GWB channeler) a creation of the Illuminati, her books and teaching where heavily promoted.



http://rense.com/general66/blav.htm

Blavatsky was one wicked woman. Her successor as head of the Theosophical Society, Annie Besant, literally 'bought' a hindu child from its impoverished parents, convincing them he was the reincarnation of Krsna (Krishna), and toured the little boy around for many years tauting him as "the great world teacher," Lord Maitreya, the 7th Buddha (and whatever other icon of imaginary new age/old age nonsense she could borrow from eastern mysticism). That boy later grew up to be none other than Krishnamurti, the philosophher and writer, who in his adulthood denounced Blavatsky, Besant (and her theosophical heiress, Alice A. Bailey) as fakes and his former performances as utter nonsense meant to appease the addle brained spiritists that became so popular during that time, when the Theosophical movement was being promoted mostly among wealthy housewives with plenty of time (and loose cash) on their hands.


yes, and she copied whole hunks of text, from over 2,000 books. if you can separate out the agenda and just look at the text, her writings are rich with information that, put in a postmodern context, reveals much about how the loomies operate today. they have a limited playbook, but they're real good at executing their plans.

[chewbacca]

"Meister Eckart saw Hell, you know what he said? The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn 'em all away. But they're not punishing you, he said. They're freeing your soul, if you're frightened of dying and holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace then the devils are really angels freeing you from the earth. It's just a matter of how you look at it. As long as you are afraid of death, the evil demons will torment you, but when you let go and aren't afraid anymore, you'll find those demons to be angels."

;)

Unkle - Eye For an Eye - YouTube

;)

[earthseed]

Why not dedicate a post to thanking all the ETs who leave us alone and let us find our own way? Those are the really positive ETs the ones we will never meet. Thanks you guys! :)

[them]

Is this outfit connected to Quinetiq? Well, we dont know much. The wall of secrecy/freemasonry is rather solid with regards to anything that goes on: I've never come across ANY bean spilling. I do know that they are owned by the Carlise group, so thats a link right back to the Neocon NWO agenda right there. End of the day, its a good illustration of how secrets can and are kept, and how human beings who are more than likely good fathers and care for their kids etc can be involved in who-knows-what. Sorry to say that daring commando raid infiltrations I am NOT up for...

One tidbit I have found out is that there used to be two rail tunnells under the malverns, one got taken over during the 2nd world war, and has never been given back...

I'll have to come back to this later John, however they used to be DERA (defense evaluation & research agency) if anything in the UK is going to be reverse engineered DERA/dstl would be involved.

[loveemotion]

It been two days since i've opened this discussion.. i wonder how long will it take the rulers of this Web site to add one little tiny peace to the puzzle.. which is sincerely important to some of us..
Please create it... lets explore something we havent explored yet.. dont run in circles :cool:

If anyone sharing the same feeling about all this ( adding a positive side to evolve) please pm me... i'd love to see you in true color :D .. love you guys.
LAL (love and light)

[lumukanda]

i have suggested that you start a thread on the ETs you are referring to, can't run before you walk.

[masonic3]

You should make your own web site/Blog, like this one:

http://readthisquick.blogspot.com

They are very easy to make, here are some helpful site that I found.
If you get stuck with the HTML code PM me

Links that can help:

The top HTML code site
http://rainbow.arch.scriptmania.com/index.html
http://rainbow.arch.scriptmania.com/scripts/space_travel.html

This one has lots of good HTML codes to use
http://www.funky-chickens.com/randoms2.shtml

Blogger forum:
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Put custom banner at the top
http://hackstansbury.blogspot.com/2006/01/add-picture-to-your-header.html

Put music on your site:
http://www.iwebmusic.com/

Put a chat room on
http://www.tag-board.com/

Email Encoder (To stop spam)
http://www.wbwip.com/wbw/emailencoder.html

Html colours
http://www.computerhope.com/htmcolor.htm

Fixed Backgrounds;
http://www.brownielocks.com/fixedbackground.html

Add glitter:
http://glitter.hotfreelayouts.com/

Hope this helps, if you don't want to make a blog, you could always start your own Forum:
They are free to make and are hosted by a good company which puts them on google free of charge

Try it:

http://www.informe.com/index.php?view=Index

Again if anyone needs help, just PM me

[montag]

Hi loveemotion, we are working on adding a forum that will be related to all things spiritual. I can see there is a bit of a hole there at the moment and we hope to get this up and running soon.

Until then you could utilize the awakenings forum to post the information you speak of, when the spirituality forum has been set up I can move the threads over for you.

Montag

[loveemotion]

Hi loveemotion, we are working on adding a forum that will be related to all things spiritual. I can see there is a bit of a hole there at the moment and we hope to get this up and running soon.

Until then you could utilize the awakenings forum to post the information you speak of, when the spirituality forum has been set up I can move the threads over for you.

Montag

Thanks a lot bud.. you seem to understand :p
Im feeling like we are running out of time tho :(
Thank you very much again, love to all.
LAL