the weed in england

[lovepure]

has anyone noticed some of the weed in england has got much stronger? and is absaloutly coverd in cristals. I think there trying to dumb and slow people down because therse a war coming

[resistance]

Not everybody in England smokes mind blowing grade..but yes weed has got much stronger in the last decade, if yu think it's effecting your mind and dumbing yu down then simple, cut down:)

[burnzy]

Isn't that what it does anyway ?

[tracker]

being an X weed smoker toker stoker poker ? lol

i can tell you why i gave up a long while back .

1stly
the weed all over the world has been deeply frauded by yet more gangsters trying to make more profit on giving crap .
the weed in england not only has got stronger , due to manufacturing at home with latest high tech equipment ,

( this is actually to speeds the proccess up and actually does not allow the plant to grow naturally thus making it more potent )

but also gangsters trying to sell off crap to the young generation for a quick buck actally coat the weed with small minute glass crystals that are extremely bad for our lungs .

unless you grow your own in a natural way , the chances are you are byeing an extrememly bad drug and it will do your health some serious crap .

also , this stronger weed can speed the proccess up of creating parranoia and scizofrenia due to damaging strong ( falsly grown ) weed thingys .
lol:rolleyes:

if i were anyone out there right now on weed , i would seriously think of giving it up . !

take it from me

i smoked it in the early 90s , and it has changed . it is not the same as it was , and really ? we should not smoke it unless we use it properly like shamen or raster .

i am aware that weed has good agents for pain releif , so i do not preach to be better or higher than thou .

what i am saying is unless it s for pain relief or religious perposes , dont go there .

having a drug that they say is not adictive , yet the same folks cant wait to light up another toke , are contradicting them selves and deluding them selves .
dope is adictive and can induce scizofrenia !:rolleyes:

but i am in 2 minds over that last bit my self ?:eek:

lol

:cool:

[duckingdafta]

having a drug that they say is not addictive, yet the same folks cant wait to light up another toke, are contradicting themselves and deluding themselves.
dope is addictive and can induce schizophrenia!:rolleyes:

Whilst I would say you would have to have schizophrenic tenancies already and the weed exasperates this.. I would agree it is addictive and I can only speak from personal experience and not a book.

I can't say much about if it actually causes it as I may have had them already!.. :D





& Me Too!...:D

[disorder2k8]

yes it has got stronger, spins me out a bit sometimes now, i smoke it les because of it, excactly the opposite of what they want ;)

i suggest you cut back a bit too

[whiterain]

be careful, alot of the stuff that looks like its covered in crystals is actually tainted with small particles of some gritty shit such as fibreglass to weigh it down. cant be good for you. noticed this gettin stuff off the asian mafia in manc. the only way is to grow it yourself. its so easy once you get started. bit late this year but natural lights done the trick with mine and got 5 decent looking plants just started flowering... yum yum

[anonymousoneuk]

I have wondered for a while now, would a tiny bit of LSD, very small, have a similar effect to marajuana?

Maybe even a better effect?

[anyuser]

I just wish that here in the states weed was legal.

[seeker1111]

I have wondered for a while now, would a tiny bit of LSD, very small, have a similar effect to marajuana?

Maybe even a better effect?

the two aren't really comparable, imo.

also you'd be high a lot longer on the lsd, just because you take a small dose doesn't mean the high will necessarily be shorter, just less intense, and definitely not as short as marajuana.

[phaid]

And what would people on this forum know about paranoia?
:p

[dmt head]

the two aren't really comparable, imo.

also you'd be high a lot longer on the lsd, just because you take a small dose doesn't mean the high will necessarily be shorter, just less intense, and definitely not as short as marajuana.

Disagree tbh if it was a very tiny bit I dont see why not. Ive had some weed/hash and ive been tripping out my head with it, and also some very weak acid, that sometimes was like being stoned on weed. Without the paranoia lol

[tracker]

duckingdafter

you said

Whilst I would say you would have to have schizophrenic tenancies already and the weed exasperates this.. I would agree it is addictive and I can only speak from personal experience and not a book.

your wrong !

i have spent alot of time researching this drug and the mind .
and if any one did enough research into the human race you would also have to do research into the human mind , this now brings me to this.

our conscious at the moment is an artificially induced conscious , hence no human is fully conscious with the etha .
also , our human race is departmentalised in every aspect of our lives and system including belief structures .

all humans have a scizofrenic tendancy , it is only a matter of degree .
some obvious , some none apparent .
scizofrenia is mostly a chemical imbalance , thats all , sometimes its just a mind set proccess , Cathy Obrian wasnt born with a departmentalised mind yet her traumer based inductions practicly departmentalised her mind into many departments .( hence multiple personality syndromes )

im not ranting at you ducky ( lol ) im just trying to broaden that reply for a later subjct some time .

none of us are imune to a departmentalised mind , ( scizofrenia).

dope can do this !

its only just when you think it hasnt got you , whenits too late , it has you already !:cool:

[lordzoma]

More crystals = better.

If people actually think that fibreglass and glass crystals are the norm, I don't know what country you're living in, but it's not the united states.

Pot gets better and better and this is a good thing.

[steevo]

Just to balance this out a bit, I would like to say that I dont touch any so called "recreational" drugs whatsover.

[tracker]

lordzoma
Senior Member




More crystals = better.

If people actually think that fibreglass and glass crystals are the norm, I don't know what country you're living in, but it's not the united states.


i live in the uk
and know the score .

the US people at home do not have massive microscopes so unless you do have one , you would never know . so this ( i dont know what country your in ) is not quite a nice reply , however i will over look it because you were no to know this , and unless your eyes have microscopic abilities , i strongly surguest you think cearfully what you are smoking .:confused:

also , you forget , the UK rules the world , so we get all the real strong stough here , we know the score !


i did my research before replying to this thread .

have you ?

[lordzoma]

I've been smoking pot for like a decade. I've done my research.

You can't get retardedly high off of fibreglass and glass crystals.

If you're getting fake weed you're getting it from disreputable dealers and disreputable growers.

Crystals can be collected in grinders. It's called Keef.

You can smoke Keef. It tastes delicious. It has a high concentration of THC. It gets you stoned.

Glass crystals and fibreglass would not.

Getting all bent out of shape and saying if you see crystals in your weed chances are it's fake, is spreading fear and paranoia.

Next time you want good pot, get it from a better source. If you've done research and have been getting fake pot, that's your problem, and it CERTAINLY is not mine.

[dangermouse]

My mate grows it organically ... safe enough id say ;)

[dmt head]

I think the weed nowadays is just far too strong, all these new crossbreeded strains to make it stronger and stronger, give me shitty bush any day and id be happy!

[clozaril]

skunk is really screwing up the younger kids heads (15-18 yr olds)

when i was that age it was slate soap leb squidge and thai with plenty of BMW and concious reggae mixed with a bit of floyd

[disorder2k8]

Actually zoma, id have to disagree with you there, THC doesn't come in large glassy like crystals, it comes in small white dots or dust and in the hairs.

Whenever you put a bit of this weed into your mouth and its gritty and crunches between your teeth, then this is actually either something bad like glass or fibreglass, or some more stronger THC being sprayed on top of a regular crop that isnt that strong(second answer is most likely)

either way if its large and looks like salt, its bad, if its dusty and looks like you are shaking the spores off a plant (which you are sort of) then its better

[tracker]

Actually zoma, id have to disagree with you there, THC doesn't come in large glassy like crystals, it comes in small white dots or dust and in the hairs.

Whenever you put a bit of this weed into your mouth and its gritty and crunches between your teeth, then this is actually either something bad like glass or fibreglass, or some more stronger THC being sprayed on top of a regular crop that isnt that strong(second answer is most likely)

either way if its large and looks like salt, its bad, if its dusty and looks like you are shaking the spores off a plant (which you are sort of) then its better


this is exactly what im saying !:D
i rest my case !:cool:

[disorder2k8]

and yes, it could be bad for your lungs, i know for certain that when i smoke some crystal type weed, i get very thick phlegm and sometimes cough up blood after prolonged usage. i can very well believe that it is actually something bad for you, from my own experience.

it could also be to increase the weight slightly, but the increase would be nominal and pointless

[tracker]

i used to smoke dope , so since i have given it up a long time ago and have been there done that

if anyone is not making sence , it will be those who are trying to troll me over this .

weed mucks up the mind !
hence why so many still defend it , and are the ones smoking it , and are the ones who are apparently --------------in control over their own mind.:confused:

home grown organicly , fine , that is safer

get it from some one else ??????????????????????????????????????????????

:confused:

and you will not know the diffrence until you stat biting it with your mouth and thats that !
im not going to debate this as i used to defend it my self .

been there done that !

:cool:

[apekteina lordosis]

i've read that if you are unfortunate and end up with "gritweed"
the best way to smoke it safely is to use a bong. not ideal in the
first place, but at least there is a water barrier between your lungs
and the tiny bits of glass or whatever the "grit" is.

dmt said-
give me shitty bush any day and id be happy!

amen to that! anyone remember the green tea cafe in clapham? :D;)

[mondo23]

Smoke pollen if you can get your hands on it. I got some lately and I can happily smoke it all day and do my shopping, clean my bathroom, ride my bike around the park and go to work smiling. Usually with skunk I can do none of those things. I just sit and stare at the wall wishing I wasnt so baked.
The last bud I had I left in its baggy for 2 days. When I went to smoke it, it had gone mouldy. Ive never know that to happen before.:confused:
Good, homegrown, organic bud is hard to get hold of but its worth paying the little bit extra if you can find it or just grow some yourself.

[whiterain]

I've been smoking pot for like a decade. I've done my research.

You can't get retardedly high off of fibreglass and glass crystals.

If you're getting fake weed you're getting it from disreputable dealers and disreputable growers.

Crystals can be collected in grinders. It's called Keef.

You can smoke Keef. It tastes delicious. It has a high concentration of THC. It gets you stoned.

Glass crystals and fibreglass would not.

Getting all bent out of shape and saying if you see crystals in your weed chances are it's fake, is spreading fear and paranoia.

Next time you want good pot, get it from a better source. If you've done research and have been getting fake pot, that's your problem, and it CERTAINLY is not mine.

no way am i saying that more crystals is a bad thing. just on the rare occasions that you taste some and it crunches like sand.. aint good. the clue as to where we are gettin it is in the title.

theres a big difference between pointing out flaws to help others out and "getting bent out of shape with paranoia over fake pot" (wtf's fake mean anyway)

if youve done research?... yeah i just checked the yellow pages (does anyone make a green pages)

[lordzoma]

Actually zoma, id have to disagree with you there, THC doesn't come in large glassy like crystals, it comes in small white dots or dust and in the hairs.

CRUNCH IN YOUR MOUTH?!?

SOMEONE has been smoking some shitty weed.

Stop spreading your fear of weed from your own disreputable sources.

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[whiterain]

anyway if i was gettin paranoid id say that the grit is nanotechnology put in by mi5 in order to get us hooked on heroin from afghanistan in order to prove the gateway drug theory

:)

[lordzoma]

i've read that if you are unfortunate and end up with "gritweed"
the best way to smoke it safely is to use a bong. not ideal in the
first place, but at least there is a water barrier between your lungs
and the tiny bits of glass or whatever the "grit" is.



I'm sorry - but did you just call smoking out of a bong a NOT IDEAL way to smoke it?

WOW

That just goes to show the non-pro level of smoker here on this forum.

Smoking out of a bong is arguably the most ideal way, because it filters out most of the tar and none of the THC. Better than just a bong includes a double water filter and ice in an ice catcher. Bongs are quite excellent.

AS FOR THE SAFEST way to smoke weed.

That is, of course, with a vaporizer. It will heat up the plant to a temperature where the THC vaporizes and can be inhaled. Vaporizers are wonderful and the taste is quite excellent.

[whiterain]

congratulations on finding someone willing to give you a job and pay you for smoking weed. im trying to go pro but no one will have me

[lordzoma]

The point, I believe, is someone trying to explain to me how thc doesn't come in crystals, when it's obvious they have no idea what they're talking about, and people talking about bongs like they're not ideal ways to smoke.

[disorder2k8]

The point, I believe, is someone trying to explain to me how thc doesn't come in crystals, when it's obvious they have no idea what they're talking about, and people talking about bongs like they're not ideal ways to smoke.

No, I'm saying that if it is crystals or solid particles, and I can see that they are, then whatever it is still being added afterwards, then it makes it bad, we dont need additives or any crap on top of our naturally grown weed. This is what is making it stronger if it is THC,though it could be just stronger strains/hybrids.

[lordzoma]

It's not additives. It's superior methods of growing it. Ever hear of hydro? Instead of growing the pot in the dirt you grow it in water and add exactly the chemicals you need to get more thc to form. Then stronger and superior strains increase the % of THC in the pot.

You can certainly SEE the crystals in good pot that I get. I guess hydro just isn't as readily available in the fascist United Kingdom. Here in America, british columbia is only a hop skip and jump away.

[dmt head]

Hydro is available lordzoma :rolleyes: Lots of shit weed has been going around the UK from the factorys and a lot of it has been getting sprayed with glass and the like to make it heavier in weight, they also spray with water for more weight. Plus all the grass nowadays is just too strong, for me and most people I know.

[augur]

There is a lot of weed going around the UK that has been cut with something; I've seen the glass/fibreglass shit that people are describing, its not normal. Zoma is right that you can see the crystals on good stuff, but that's not what this stuff is.

[mr_self_destruct]

I can't believe people think the crystals are fibreglass or whatever. They are THC crystals and so you're getting much better value for your money for fuck's sake!

If you want to smoke tame pot get back to the fucking 60s!

Growers and dealers have no need to add shit to weed as there is such an abundance of cannabis factories in the UK and it is so easy to grow a lot.

[dmt head]

I can't believe people think the crystals are fibreglass or whatever. They are THC crystals and so you're getting much better value for your money for fuck's sake!

If you want to smoke tame pot get back to the fucking 60s!

Growers and dealers have no need to add shit to weed as there is such an abundance of cannabis factories in the UK and it is so easy to grow a lot.

I know fine well that they spray them with water, and possibly other shit. There was a report recently about glass being found in grass. Yes we know crystals are thc doesnt mean there not putting glass in grass :rolleyes: ruthless gangsters are spraying there shit with glass and other crap, all there interested in is profit!

They do it with solid so what makes you think theyll leave grass alone??

[mr_self_destruct]

I know fine well that they spray them with water, and possibly other shit. There was a report recently about glass being found in grass. Yes we know crystals are thc doesnt mean there not putting glass in grass :rolleyes: ruthless gangsters are spraying there shit with glass and other crap, all there interested in is profit!

They do it with solid so what makes you think theyll leave grass alone??

If that's what you think - stop smoking or grow your own! No-one's forcing you to buy it!

[dmt head]

I do grow my own and they do spray it with glass. The glass from light strips powdered, they also have been putting it in cocaine in holland. The chinese that own lots of factorys in Glasgow are well known for spraying it with glass, if you rub it and its crynchy then you have glass, my friend had some and it was exactly like that!

[whiterain]

yes thats generally the reaction any sane person would have, but while were on the subject, might as well make sure others are aware of the possible pitfalls, or potfalls

[mr_self_destruct]

might as well make sure others are aware of the possible pitfalls, or potfalls

Heh, nice pun

[mr_self_destruct]

I shouldn't even intrude on this thread really, as I buy my weed in the Netherlands :)

[apekteina lordosis]

I'm sorry - but did you just call smoking out of a bong a NOT IDEAL way to smoke it?



no i did not, you buffoon...

btw i could out bong you any day of the week, freaking yankee one puff
then pass it on do you "party" roach clip blunt cheech and chong fuckwands.

;)

[psych641]

contaminated weed reached epidemic levels, last autumn i believe following a sucession of big busts. It was dubbed 'gritweed', i never came across any but it definately wasnt a myth.

As far as commercial hydro goes, if its from a big factory IMO its likely to have been sprayed with poisonous 'only for use on ornamentals' pesticides/fungicides etc. At worse, they would have been in the actual feed-water.

Ive also read a shocking expose (softsecrets magazine IIRC) about contaminated weed in coffeeshops (bulking agents).

[clozaril]

no i did not, you buffoon...

btw i could out bong you any day of the week, freaking yankee one puff
then pass it on do you "party" roach clip blunt cheech and chong fuckwands.

;)

:D hilarious

[apekteina lordosis]

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/brookemorales/63t6cy9.gif

sweet dreams y'all.

[cleopatraxxx]

by the way, if one wanted to buy soe grass to smoke, how much is it for in the UK?

in Africa for 3 cigs of weed you pay 25pence.
is that exepnsive?

[rastamasta]

Hi Guys,

I'm in the UK and I'll say is that my memory is shot to shit case of the "weed"!

the "Illuminati" plan is get ALL of us totally "daffy ducked" mentally, pyhsically & spiritually and "drugs" is the easiest way to do it.

[cleopatraxxx]

the "Illuminati" plan is get ALL of us totally "daffy ducked" mentally, pyhsically & spiritually and "drugs" is the easiest way to do it.

i sadly agree on that with you

[whitelightrabbit]

from what i've heard from friends in the uk, it sounds like much of the weed there is corrupt. just the effects they report, it sounds like it's laced with meth or some crap. not pure! i am lucky to live in BC canada and get my weed from reliable sources. btw i have had a painful eye disease called 'iritis' which could turn into glaucoma for the past ten days and weed reeeeallly helps! it's such a blessed medicinal gift from the gods.

[apekteina lordosis]

by the way, if one wanted to buy soe grass to smoke, how much is it for in the UK?

in Africa for 3 cigs of weed you pay 25pence.
is that exepnsive?

do you work for some obscure nigerian banking institution?

[cleopatraxxx]

do you work for some obscure nigerian banking institution?

LOL, hahahahaha,

just because i know african price for weed means i work for dealers? LOL, LOL

[psych641]

from what i've heard from friends in the uk, it sounds like much of the weed there is corrupt. just the effects they report, it sounds like it's laced with meth or some crap. not pure!..

Its more likely down to harvesting under-ripened buds IMO. Indica strains are always chosen for cash-cropping, & for a faster turnover theyll get cropped early before the plants had a chance to produce the full range of cannabinoids. Harvesting too early is well known to cause an 'edgey' effect that many find unpleasant.

[apekteina lordosis]

LOL, hahahahaha,

just because i know african price for weed means i work for dealers? LOL, LOL

:D ;)

to seriously anwer your question 25pence for 3spliffs in uk terms
is a brilliantly cheap price. of course 25pence in african terms might
be expensive in that i'd figure there are a lot of africans, zimbabweans
for example, who probably can't afford to spend 25pence on such a "luxury",
apart from mugabe...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00683/mugabe-2213974-404_683136c.jpg
"bob, could you kindly knock one up..."

[legendary]

has anyone noticed some of the weed in england has got much stronger? and is absaloutly coverd in cristals. I think there trying to dumb and slow people down because therse a war coming

you've been smoking grit mate. you should look this up. it's a BIG BIG PROBLEM. it's not crystals you're seeing, it's more likely sawdust, glass or industrial solvent spray. Stick to the homegrown and you'll be all right. but no if anything i would have to say english skunk has gotten less potent in recent years, although you do get a few fiiiine strains every now n then. they aren't something to complain about though

PS in South Africa, you can get a kilo for abiout £30

[murksyourheroes]

Hydro is available lordzoma :rolleyes: Lots of shit weed has been going around the UK from the factorys and a lot of it has been getting sprayed with glass and the like to make it heavier in weight, they also spray with water for more weight. Plus all the grass nowadays is just too strong, for me and most people I know.

Haha... HAH! HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAH!

[none]

Weed!? If only. Up here in the Scottish highlands we have had a steady diet of 'soap-bar' for the last 15 years. 'Soap-bar' or 'Pirrelli'/'Formula' for those who are lucky enough to not know is a vile concoction of hash, and whatever the dealers can find to bulk it up..... straw, oil (engine and cooking), i've had some that tastes and smells of diesel, and I've heard rumor that dog shit has been used as a bulking agent as well.....
That's all we get up here .... no weed, pollen, kiff, manalli, chocolate, thai, black, slate, leb, skunk ...... nothing. I have almost stopped smoking it now.

[legendary]

never smoke soapbar. shit will kill you and won't even get you high. sad thing is people are lacing the weed and skunk with things like salt, glass, sand sugar, industrial solvent spray, etc. gotta be careful nowadays. Growing is the way forward

[psych641]

hydro = wrong

[legendary]

hydro = GODLY

hydro growing is the best by a long way. done 2 and got an average of 4oz per plant at harvest. speeds up the vegetative stage, flowering stage, doesn't make the bud more potent, sadly but gives it a constant supply of nutrients to sustain healthy growth. and best of all at the end you get the hydro high dro

[none]

never smoke soapbar. shit will kill you and won't even get you high. sad thing is people are lacing the weed and skunk with things like salt, glass, sand sugar, industrial solvent spray, etc. gotta be careful nowadays. Growing is the way forward

if you have the space to do it.

[legendary]

doesn't have to take up much space, although if you're after a constant supply it kind of does. some of my mates grow in closets in their rooms, another i know bought a computer grow box, which is only about the size of a computer tower. also if you grow lowryders, they are basically bonzai plants and they are autoflowerers, so you don't need to worry about changing lighting or anything. the only hard part to conceal is the smell in the last few weeks

[psych641]

hydro = GODLY

hydro growing is the best by a long way. done 2 and got an average of 4oz per plant at harvest. speeds up the vegetative stage, flowering stage, doesn't make the bud more potent, sadly but gives it a constant supply of nutrients to sustain healthy growth. and best of all at the end you get the hydro high dro

I can see that, but its from the growers POV. From a consumers POV wouldnt you prefer organic?

Also i wonder about the long term health effects - your taking a plant with a high capacity for accumulating radioactivity/toxins (hemp is actually planted around chernobyl to clean the soil asap) so any dodgy contaminants in the chems is likely to accumulate (even if it is flushed properly etc). Addmittedly if your going to make concentrated extracts or consume orally all that probably wont matter so much.

[lovepure]

haha is there any one in bedford shire with tasty homegrown they would like to sell all im geting is this nasty artificial green colourd skunk but i had some thai weed about a week ago
loverly =D

[dmt head]

Yes someone from bedfordshire go sell lovepure some weed?? Sounds cool! :rolleyes:

[lovepure]

and acid ^^

[none]

doesn't have to take up much space, although if you're after a constant supply it kind of does. some of my mates grow in closets in their rooms, another i know bought a computer grow box, which is only about the size of a computer tower. also if you grow lowryders, they are basically bonzai plants and they are autoflowerers, so you don't need to worry about changing lighting or anything. the only hard part to conceal is the smell in the last few weeks
Family of 5(3 children all under 10) in a 2 bedroom council house, space is at a premium ..... no space to grow .... we've (w?)racked our brains trying to come up with a solution .... to no avail.
Someone already posted some great links to site where we can find out all the ins and outs of home growing and where to buy the kit needed ..... next problem is money .... next year though .... we'll buy the kit and worry about the lack of space all over again then. ;)

[legendary]

Family of 5(3 children all under 10) in a 2 bedroom council house, space is at a premium ..... no space to grow .... we've (w?)racked our brains trying to come up with a solution .... to no avail.
Someone already posted some great links to site where we can find out all the ins and outs of home growing and where to buy the kit needed ..... next problem is money .... next year though .... we'll buy the kit and worry about the lack of space all over again then. ;)

fair enough, that is quite a predicament. here's my solution, it is quite pricey and you need to scrog the plants to make space for them (unless you grow lowryders) but it should solve the space and child problems, although a friend that has it says during the last few weeks, the air filter doesnt fully cover the smell.
http://www.homegrown-hydroponics.com/pcgr3plsthyg.html

this won't really give you a constant supply, but once you get the hang of it, i'm sure you could get aan oz or 2 per yield, unless you were willing to donate a closet or something to growing, in which case you could increase that to 3 or 4 oz's per yield. if you're looking for a constant supply though you will need 2 different areas, 1 for vegetation and 1 for flowering, or alternatively a mother plant and a space to grow cuttings

[legendary]

I can see that, but its from the growers POV. From a consumers POV wouldnt you prefer organic?

Also i wonder about the long term health effects - your taking a plant with a high capacity for accumulating radioactivity/toxins (hemp is actually planted around chernobyl to clean the soil asap) so any dodgy contaminants in the chems is likely to accumulate (even if it is flushed properly etc). Addmittedly if your going to make concentrated extracts or consume orally all that probably wont matter so much.

nah from a consumer's view, as long as it is dried or cured to the same extent as soil grown draw i don't mind either way. in the last week or 2 of the plants life you do something called flushing, whereby you rinse through either the soil with a steady flow of water for around 10-15 minutes to wash all the nutrients out and off the roots, and after that only give them normal water, or with hydroponics, you stop adding nutrients to the water, so only pure water is pumped through the plant for the last week or 2. this gives the plant the chance to use up all the chemical nutrients inside which ruin the taste of the smoke. by the way many of the nutrients i used in hydroponic growing can be used on soil plants as well, as i have done with the ones i'm growing at the moment, which are cuttings from my last hydroponic grow, and are coming along very nicely indeed. so i guess it ust depends on what nutrients you are using. i stick to the canna flora and terra ranges and then use earth juice for soil based plants, and as far as i've seen they've kept my plants very healthy. if they build up excesses of chemicals/nutrients you tend to see it as some sort of symptom on the plant, so for example yellowing leaves means there is a potassium deficiency, or they are too close to the light if they are high up
curling leaves tends to mean they have root burn, so they need to be flushed to remove the excess nutrients, etc.

[eternal_spirit]

Sceptical about some of the horror stories about cannabis resin.

The most common method of turning plant into blocks of resin
The growers say in Morocco etc uses gauzes with different sized holes they shake/sift the plants and collect all the dust/powder, then eventually press/compress it into blocks, this is the end product which is then exported to other countries.

Now I've read that dodgy Mafia type gangs remix and water down the pure blocks of resin to add all sorts of impure crap such as tranquillizers, sand, glass, grit, etc.

Now this is why I'm sceptical
How can they possibly take a block of resin to pieces to add other substances and press it back together again? No one has explained this yet.

The only way it is possible as far as I can imagine is that the growers who make the original blocks of resin are adding dodgy substances. The native people/growers wouldn't normally do this because they like to smoke themselves, unless they keep the good pure stuff themselves and export the tainted stuff.

But in say Afghanistan they military etc may be forcing the growers into adding dodgy substances, to make more money. Also think I read the natives are using anything thy can get their hands on (times of war things are scarce) to use as a bonding agent to hold the blocks of resin together, stuff they wouldn't have normaly used (so it maybe harmless mostly but adds a bit of a bad tatse)

Although as we all know there's been some awful tasting stuff about for a long time, which may contain other harmfull substances.

It's a sad situation because years ago there was always quality imported resin of various kinds, some of which was better than the best of skunk. Nicer flavour, better high etc. If anyone remembers the good old days most would probably agree.

You can keep the finest whiskey and all the others substances of abuse, just give me some good resin that's what I miss the most.

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2225.html

The geopolitics of Afghani hash

many of the skunk plants originate from strains here.

[freespark]

And what would people on this forum know about paranoia?
:p

My paranoia is only waff-er thin!!

[keenly]

weed is a gift from the god's

I love mary jane

[psych641]

nah from a consumer's view, as long as it is dried or cured to the same extent as soil grown draw i don't mind either way. in the last week or 2 of the plants life you do something called flushing, whereby you rinse through either the soil with a steady flow of water for around 10-15 minutes to wash all the nutrients out and off the roots, and after that only give them normal water, or with hydroponics, you stop adding nutrients to the water, so only pure water is pumped through the plant for the last week or 2. this gives the plant the chance to use up all the chemical nutrients inside which ruin the taste of the smoke. by the way many of the nutrients i used in hydroponic growing can be used on soil plants as well, as i have done with the ones i'm growing at the moment, which are cuttings from my last hydroponic grow, and are coming along very nicely indeed. so i guess it ust depends on what nutrients you are using. i stick to the canna flora and terra ranges and then use earth juice for soil based plants, and as far as i've seen they've kept my plants very healthy. if they build up excesses of chemicals/nutrients you tend to see it as some sort of symptom on the plant, so for example yellowing leaves means there is a potassium deficiency, or they are too close to the light if they are high up
curling leaves tends to mean they have root burn, so they need to be flushed to remove the excess nutrients, etc.

But with flushing your only talking about nutrients, not contaminants. Cut the supply of eg. phosphorus & the plant uses up its stored reserves quickly, because phosphorus is required in large amounts, but what about any accumulated stuff that it doesnt require.

[none]

fair enough, that is quite a predicament. here's my solution, it is quite pricey and you need to scrog the plants to make space for them (unless you grow lowryders) but it should solve the space and child problems, although a friend that has it says during the last few weeks, the air filter doesnt fully cover the smell.
http://www.homegrown-hydroponics.com/pcgr3plsthyg.html

this won't really give you a constant supply, but once you get the hang of it, i'm sure you could get aan oz or 2 per yield, unless you were willing to donate a closet or something to growing, in which case you could increase that to 3 or 4 oz's per yield. if you're looking for a constant supply though you will need 2 different areas, 1 for vegetation and 1 for flowering, or alternatively a mother plant and a space to grow cuttings
Thanks for the advice, I'll definately look into that. :D

[monkey]

How can they possibly take a block of resin to pieces to add other substances and press it back together again?

Same way as they do with 'Mechanically Reclaimed Meat'

Add a BINDING AGENT

Most of the adulteration of moroccan hash goes on in SPAIN. Your good old east end villans and biker gangs, thats who does it

they add a lot of shit, plastic, sand, petro chemicals, BARBITUATES

[jahzel]

Grit weed is horrible stuff indeed. I've also noticed certain weed varieties weighed down with yeast. Cannabis-induced paranoia and schizophrenia, as we are constantly told by the lamestream media, is fear mongering at best. Bottom line: Government's don't want you to smoke the herb because it makes you think too much, it makes you appreciate nature too much, it gives you a sense of compassion for other human beings, etc. The Government want's us all to be rowdy, pathetic, ignorant, violent/aggressive, stupid slaves. They do this by encouraging alcohol as a means of escape. Then they tell us they're about to crack down on alcohol because they know that will only have the opposite affect. As for paranoia - well wouldn't you be paranoid about goons in riot gear knocking down your door for cannabis or ruining your entire life with a criminal record because you are caught with some stuff.

The best way and safest way to live our lives without fear and crime is to legalise cannabis. There wouldn't be grit weed, diesel resin, and heroin/cocaine-laced plants being sold if it was regulated and sold in Amsterdam style coffeeshops. Gun-gangs we constantly hear about won't profit off Jahweed. Alcohol-related agro will significantly drop because a good night on the town will become a good night on the sofa.

Another thing; it’s our choice what we do to ourselves – no-one else’s. We’ve been using this plant since the early days of human civilisation. How Government (who suddenly decides is ‘GOD’) thinks it has the right to regulate and control what WE do to ourselves – I have no idea.

You see this boot?

You might feel it kicking your ass, you filthy Government swine… :mad:

[umbrex]

I have wondered for a while now, would a tiny bit of LSD, very small, have a similar effect to marajuana?

Maybe even a better effect?

no.

[umbrex]

Same way as they do with 'Mechanically Reclaimed Meat'

Add a BINDING AGENT

Most of the adulteration of moroccan hash goes on in SPAIN. Your good old east end villans and biker gangs, thats who does it

they add a lot of shit, plastic, sand, petro chemicals, BARBITUATES

but mostly camel poo..

..i kid u not

[jahzel]

Remember, the guy who invented it (mind google isn't working again) accidentally discovered it through a small amount spilling on his skin...

[psych641]

. The native people/growers wouldn't normally do this because they like to smoke themselves, unless they keep the good pure stuff themselves and export the tainted stuff..

This is exactly what happens ;) Theres an article floating about on the net where major moroccan exporters talk openly about this.

Also theres a documentary called 'hashish' following a family of farmers in morocco well worth a d/l if you can find it.. You can see the process of 1st press, 2nd press etc.. Its also nice just to see into someone elses world. As an ex-long time consumer of moroccan produce i found it rewarding to get to see the people & plants on the other side..

All soap-bar is shit IMO - just to varying levels. When you find bits of plastic floating about thats a sign its been cut & re-pressed (probably in the UK) Its been done to formula under an east-end gang, but could potentially be cut & re-pressed anywhere in the supply. I was living in cambridge when sinsemilla was still a rarity, and the shit that used to do the rounds .. you had soap in different flavours - glue, pine disinfectant, diesel.

[legendary]

the reason you get soap bar in the UK is because of the fact that for every 10 g's of leaf/stalk you put in you only get back 1g of nice hash. if you do the maths that means you need at least 10,000g's to get 1 kilo of hash, and considering the size of the hash trade and th fact it is a world wide business, however is only made in a few countries like morrocco and nepal, this creates a deficit of nice hash, so when it reaches the UK market it has generally been cut with all sorts of crap, or gets cut with crap which is why you should nevr smoke english hash. also because evry1 expect it to be crap you could never get nice hash and charge real prices because nobody would link thinking it would be the same as the other crap

[augur]

Not sure if this has been posted on here (I've read most of the thread but not all of it), there's a website covering the contamination of cannabis across Europe:

http://www.gritweed.co.uk