Regarding Rik's "Suicide"

[hirschfelder]

Has anybody been able to confirm that this is the case yet?

Other than the rumour started by FreeCanada and the alleged message from his mother on the Red Ice forum, is there any actual evidence that he took his own life?

Had he taken his own life or died in any other mysterious way, his death would have to have been referred to the Coroner for an inquest before a death certificate could be issued and a funeral held

Of course, this could have happened. The only problem is with the timescale; was there enough time for an inquest in between the date of death and the funeral?; and the media, there have been no reports in either the Bradford or Ilkley local media about his suicide and the subsequent inquest

Again, this doesn't rule suicide out entirely, especially if there were other forces at work, but unless I'm missing something, there doesn't seem to be much indicating that he killed himself either

I'm happy to go to Bradford to obtain a copy of his death certificate if nobody else wants to, although I do think some of you should do at least some research before gossiping about his "suicide" (I know, I'm gossiping too, now)

Given the nature of his research, I think we do have a right to know if he died in mysterious circumstances, inc. suicide, but I don't think we (you lot) have the right spread these rumours without any inquiry whatsoever

[bendoon]

It says in the local paper that there were no "suspicious circumstances", ie no murder or manslaughter, sign of foul play, no cause of death is given, therefore the only possibility is suicide, it won't say that on his deth certificate though.

WELL-known Scunthorpe– born rock guitarist, singer and writer Richard 'Rik' Clay has died at his home in Ilkley at the age of 26.
His grieving family led by his parents John and Jill Clay said there were no suspicious circumstances.


http://www.thisisscunthorpe.co.uk/news/Scunthorpe-rock-guitarist-dies/article-303447-detail/article.html

[hirschfelder]

It says in the local paper that there were no "suspicious circumstances", ie no murder or manslaughter, sign of foul play, no cause of death is given, therefore the only possibility is suicide, it won't say that on his deth certificate though.


WTF????????? I'm sure there are other possibilities!

And of course his death certificate will record if it was suicide, although it might use a euphemism such as "accidental" or "death by misadventure", but at least that's something more to go on than your "logic"

[hirschfelder]

I've just heard the Red Ice guy talk about this. Looks like he's looked into it and got some real answers

Saves me a trip to Bradford I suppose

I'm just gobsmacked, I thought the suicide thing was nothing more than a nasty rumour

Looks like you can delete this now, mods

[synergy777]

why did he kill himself?

what he knew was quite accurate, he was onto things.

he seemed in good spirits. its not nice to speculate, but i personally find it hard to accept he would kill himself, when he was just starting to put things together.

if the elite/spirits etc did get to him, then we will never know.

what we must do is take inspiration and strength from riks work/life, and carry on regardless of the elite and consequences.

i am now determined more than ever to carry this stuff on, i have been in discussions with starting my own forum/website/blog etc, and doing this thing on big scale/professionally, doing this thing in serious manner.

better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.

i am open to all suggestions regarding the name of the website, design, topics etc on the forthcoming website. i will link it to this one, and will continue to take part on this forum, as this is a great forum, and known worldwide.

i want an all inclusive/egalitarian/free website, i want all members to contribute with topics, ideas etc. hence i want a name that all people can relate to.

so please feel free to contribute people, all ideas are welcome.

[planetsadhana]

thats great synergy,

the future is not set in stone , so exposeing this information is one way of creating the positive force that will prevent this zion stuff happening

[cruise4]

It's odd seeing Rick's old posts... I'm listening to the RICR show now. Cheers to Hendrik for making the effort.

After some thought about all this...

We have friends on the other side. Now that's what I call 'insiders'. I'm sure he hasn't given up. The fight is still ON.

[frankanne]

why did he kill himself?

what he knew was quite accurate, he was onto things.

he seemed in good spirits. its not nice to speculate, but i personally find it hard to accept he would kill himself, when he was just starting to put things together.

if the elite/spirits etc did get to him, then we will never know.

what we must do is take inspiration and strength from riks work/life, and carry on regardless of the elite and consequences.

i am now determined more than ever to carry this stuff on, i have been in discussions with starting my own forum/website/blog etc, and doing this thing on big scale/professionally, doing this thing in serious manner.

better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.

i am open to all suggestions regarding the name of the website, design, topics etc on the forthcoming website. i will link it to this one, and will continue to take part on this forum, as this is a great forum, and known worldwide.

i want an all inclusive/egalitarian/free website, i want all members to contribute with topics, ideas etc. hence i want a name that all people can relate to.

so please feel free to contribute people, all ideas are welcome.

that's a great idea synergy. Well done mate. Maybe we could all do a bit of 'brain storming'. Universal Energy Blog? The One Consciousness? Life Force? Limitless Dimensions? Shut me up, I'm getting carried away.

[cruise4]

The Black Syn? Might save you drawing up your own logos!

[synergy777]

i want it to be a group effort, a collective creation, like our reality. i do not want my own name on it etc, as its about all of us working together as equals. thus if anyone wants to contribute topics, threads, research, blogs, art/music/prose, forum names, forum designs/formats, logos etc, please feel free to do so, it will be very much appreaciated.

[runciter]

sorry but i still can't believe he killed himself, it makes no sense to me.

[frankanne]

sorry but i still can't believe he killed himself, it makes no sense to me.

Same here runciter.

[spectruma]

Regarding his "suicide"...

My hunch is that it's complete and utter bullshit. :mad:

Like so many other "mystery disappearances" of people who got too close to the truth and disseminating it to the masses.

[frankanne]

Regarding his "suicide"...

My hunch is that it's complete and utter bullshit. :mad:

Like so many other "mystery disappearances" of people who got too close to the truth and disseminating it to the masses.

So the timeline goes like this:

12th June 2008, Rik does the Redice interview. He's upbeat, happy, looking forward to revealing more stuff.

13th June 2008. 8.24am he's posting, happily

9.51am, he's posting again happily, promising 'full expose of the music industry coming soon'.

His father said that he suddenly came down with adrenal problems? and
"it's total shutdown and he doesn't have the capacity to even contemplate going on the web.."

Yet Rik's blog came down on the 13th June 2008. So if Rik suddenly became so ill that day, after posting that he was going to reveal stuff, so ill that he didn't have the capacity to contemplate going on the web - then who took down his blog?

[synergy777]

the work rik published in the public forum was not enough to send him over the edge, it wasn't deep occult etc, it was critical/creative thought. so henrik with his analysis is wrong imho. why rik committed suicide we might not ever know. he seemed a talented man, he had a good job, good friends, and a good social life. the real reasons are not known to us, thus speculation to me, seems like people like henrik are gloating over his death eg he couldn't handle the truth, unlike us professional researchers etc. personally, rik done more work than henrik and crane. i mean come on what half these researchers do is pure theatre, they are living in fantasy land, crop cirlces, channeled information, ripping old vedic concepts and passing it of as there own.

how many of them offer pragmatic and intelligent discourse?

the thing is rik's work resonated with the average person/common man. we could see his work and relate to it. that is what i am, i am a common man, average bloke, the masses, a sheep etc. all these researchers are frankly up their own arseholes and are detached from the reality of the masses. they pontificate about how they know the truth and they don't know much. i have connected more dots than most of the researchers, and yet most don't even see the connections, not even the famous researchers. see the thing is what we do, is for all of us, its about bringing the info to everyone, not being snobby and saying the sheep do not know this, they cannot handle the truth, that is bullshit to be frank. do not underestimate the intelligence and compassion of the masses, we are the masses, we are not seperate from them. too many researchers sell out, get all elitest and look down onto the masses/amateur researchers like me, rik, us etc.

i like red ice, but too much worshipping of false idols eg researchers with flashy websites is going on. trust in ourselves and our own ability, respect yourself and eachother. half of these reserachers are disinfo, payrolled to keep us apart and in conflict with eachother.

has henrik, ian crane etc pointed out the mistakes in riks work, have they given us a critical analysis, no. judge them by their fruits/works/actions. they all say this is wrong etc, but what do they offer?

i didn't know rik that well, but someone has to defend his honour from these snobby slandering researchers, they are acting like vultures, there time is over.

[synergy777]

we should share openly, treat everyone the same. some researchers do not, some do but most i think are like, how can i say it. this stuff is their last chance at being someone, a type of conspiracy culture celeb. they pretend they do not believe in fame, power, etc, but they love it. snobbery comes from arrogance/insecurity. everybody to a degree loves to be loved, famous, its an ego trip.

me i am too stubborn, single minded to give a hoot, lol, as long as the job gets done, who cares about the fame/credit, its all about results, eg us the people winning, and liberating ourselves, and living in peace. everything else is secondary, the main objective is winning.

to be honest this stuff comes easy to me, hence sometimes i am right, sometimes i am wrong. but we need to all contribute, thus helping eachother to improve, to fine tune our data, to increase its accuracy. it should be inclusive not exclusive.

its a team effort this time, not a mission for one poor soul. its too big, too much responsibility to expect one person to have all the answers, do everything. we have to help aswell. think about, all the previous times, krishna, buddha, yashuah, were on solo missions, and the elite beat them.

this time we cannot fail, failure is not an option. thus we must take collective responsibility and unite, we have the power, we just don't have the self belief, self confidence in ourselves. we don't have trust in ourselves and we don't trust eachother.

we must change this.

[xxxx]

i like red ice, but too much worshipping of false idols eg researchers with flashy websites is going on. trust in ourselves and our own ability, respect yourself and eachother. half of these reserachers are disinfo, payrolled to keep us apart and in conflict with eachother.



i'm not having a go, but following this reasoning you could say that this whole rik clay stuff is disinfo. keep you distracted by what he was saying last. i dunno, its just an idea. doesn't mean i believe it.

[eternal_spirit]

quote: nugget

he knew Rick

Hey. Ive been messaged on facebook so I got my ass in gear and have come back to post.
Im glad people are looking out for each other but some of you... mentioning no names, Really need to get a grip.


I feel bad for not not coming straight back home and posting about my converstaions with Rik, but I have a life other than being sat at this computer.

Ive been spending time with my girlfriend (as I went away with friends) since I have come home. Along with catching up with work etc.



What has happened to Rik is tragic. We can assume, but non of us know the real truth. I personally dont belive it was suicide, or if it was then there was something pushing him. But seeing has none! of us did anything about it, we probably will never know.

Going round in circles on this forum isnt going to get us anywhere. I have been contacted by a girl called elizabeth form canada, and she is keen to make a documentory or actually go out there to find more info on what happened to Rik. This is what needs to be done! Not bickering like kids amongst ourselfs. We of all people should know we need to get behind each other, otherwise what situation will we end up then?

I told eric dubai months ago about my experiences with Rik as I saw him as someone I could rely on for a well judged opinion. But anyway I will explain......

After trying to rally people up to actually go and find Rik in person it was a few days later that I was added by Rik (or his account) on facebook.
Obviously i first asked how he was etc and repeatedly asked if it actually was him.

We talked about his band..music.. crop circles etc before the conversation lead on to what actually happend to him.

He said that he was with his boyfriend is his room and they had done LSD. He said he was thinking but started to loose it. He apparently started to try and climb out the window (3rd floor). His boyfriend pulled him back in and then they left the house to go for a walk. He again said he started to really freak out in the street and lost the plot.
Later on he ended up back home and threw himself out the window. He said he hurt his back and danamge his ankle. But other than that was fine physicaly.

He said afterwards that he had mental issues and that he had lost all his perception of things and that hopefully he was on the mend.

Obviously im just relaying what was typed in the chat... im not saying this is the truth of what happend to him.

I asked why he didnt let the forums know that he was ok..or not. But he said that it was pointless as nobody would belive it (probably true) as I am also experiencing.

So thats the main info of what was said..... confusing to say the least.

Everybody I speak to about this dosnt belive it was him. I was also suspect from the fact that he only got in contact on facebook.... a corperate database of people and what they are all up to. Im sure the powers that be have full access to user accounts. Something im not so sure about with these forums and this website. Are they privately hosted??

I will be getting round to posting some more topics more on my blog soon, and also my recent 11:11 experiences.

Take it easy people and try to keep a level head.

J
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=550704&postcount=82

[nugget]

we should share openly, treat everyone the same. some researchers do not, some do but most i think are like, how can i say it. this stuff is their last chance at being someone, a type of conspiracy culture celeb. they pretend they do not believe in fame, power, etc, but they love it. snobbery comes from arrogance/insecurity. everybody to a degree loves to be loved, famous, its an ego trip.

me i am too stubborn, single minded to give a hoot, lol, as long as the job gets done, who cares about the fame/credit, its all about results, eg us the people winning, and liberating ourselves, and living in peace. everything else is secondary, the main objective is winning.

to be honest this stuff comes easy to me, hence sometimes i am right, sometimes i am wrong. but we need to all contribute, thus helping eachother to improve, to fine tune our data, to increase its accuracy. it should be inclusive not exclusive.

its a team effort this time, not a mission for one poor soul. its too big, too much responsibility to expect one person to have all the answers, do everything. we have to help aswell. think about, all the previous times, krishna, buddha, yashuah, were on solo missions, and the elite beat them.

this time we cannot fail, failure is not an option. thus we must take collective responsibility and unite, we have the power, we just don't have the self belief, self confidence in ourselves. we don't have trust in ourselves and we don't trust eachother.

we must change this.

Wise words mate.
Puting Riks info back up was something I was kinda getting attacked for on here by the minority,but like you said, its a collective effort. We ALL need to do our little bit minus egos etc, because as a whole theres no way the agenda can go on.

[tracker]

what public froum did he have ?

did he have more than 1 ?

please tell .:cool:

[mountainwarrior]

the nwo can get people when they do some of these drugs and are in altered states. if he did acid when he was getting all this attention while getting truth to the truth, bad f'ing move on his part.

[synergy777]

he was about to do a music industry expose and personally the elite can use many ways from chemical/electronic, and false suicides eg dr kelly to make a person kill himself. Also they can use the spiritual angle eg demons, curses, dreams, voices etc.

the process of gnosis, the waking up to this stuff can destroy your mind, believe me i know from personal experience, i went through some crazy stuff.

[haukipesukone]

sorry but i still can't believe he killed himself, it makes no sense to me.

Same here also.



I can't understand how people here are going to accept it as suicide just, because authorities and his family supposedly said so. He died under very suspicious circumstances, but no, it's suicide since they said so.

What happened to the distrust and paranoia on this forum? Where have the good things disappeared to?

[runciter]

Same here also.



I can't understand how people here are going to accept it as suicide just, because authorities and his family supposedly said so. He died under very suspicious circumstances, but no, it's suicide since they said so.

What happened to the distrust and paranoia on this forum? Where have the good things disappeared to?

lol..

the most suspicious thing is the 9/11 ritual, an illuminati signature imho.

rik's ashes were scattered on september 11, exactly 7 years after 9/11.

[dawnismygoddess]

Ok, I just read this thread.

Has anyone come up with a good explanation why he would have killed himself!?

[hagbard_celine]

Ok, I just read this thread.

Has anyone come up with a good explanation why he would have killed himself!?

It's hard to say.:(

He came across in the radio interviews as a bit "overloaded" and ungrounded. He sounded like he was going through a heavy Spiritual Emergence Crisis. It can be a depressing ordeal for some people.

[lightgiver]

the work rik published in the public forum was not enough to send him over the edge, it wasn't deep occult etc, it was critical/creative thought. so henrik with his analysis is wrong imho. why rik committed suicide we might not ever know. he seemed a talented man, he had a good job, good friends, and a good social life. the real reasons are not known to us, thus speculation to me, seems like people like henrik are gloating over his death eg he couldn't handle the truth, unlike us professional researchers etc. personally, rik done more work than henrik and crane. i mean come on what half these researchers do is pure theatre, they are living in fantasy land, crop cirlces, channeled information, ripping old vedic concepts and passing it of as there own.

how many of them offer pragmatic and intelligent discourse?

the thing is rik's work resonated with the average person/common man. we could see his work and relate to it. that is what i am, i am a common man, average bloke, the masses, a sheep etc. all these researchers are frankly up their own arseholes and are detached from the reality of the masses. they pontificate about how they know the truth and they don't know much. i have connected more dots than most of the researchers, and yet most don't even see the connections, not even the famous researchers. see the thing is what we do, is for all of us, its about bringing the info to everyone, not being snobby and saying the sheep do not know this, they cannot handle the truth, that is bullshit to be frank. do not underestimate the intelligence and compassion of the masses, we are the masses, we are not seperate from them. too many researchers sell out, get all elitest and look down onto the masses/amateur researchers like me, rik, us etc.

i like red ice, but too much worshipping of false idols eg researchers with flashy websites is going on. trust in ourselves and our own ability, respect yourself and eachother. half of these reserachers are disinfo, payrolled to keep us apart and in conflict with eachother.

has henrik, ian crane etc pointed out the mistakes in riks work, have they given us a critical analysis, no. judge them by their fruits/works/actions. they all say this is wrong etc, but what do they offer?

i didn't know rik that well, but someone has to defend his honour from these snobby slandering researchers, they are acting like vultures, there time is over.

Good post,nice one synergy:)

i came across this interview,i do not know much about henrik but he sounded upset in this interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWqx_i-u8eo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWqx_i-u8eo

TBH he gives out some good info in this one,about being careful not to blow your mind......sound advise,this info can sometimes be overpowering because it is knowledge that as been hidden for a long time and i can bet there is more to it also as well,pandoras box as been opened so to speak.IMHO.

[sophia_h]

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also I have just found and read this thread.

it may well be suicide as there are clues

he had developed an adrenal problem

TPTB use THAT often as a precusor to
mental incapcitation
that can result in institutionalization

OR

suicide


OR

death by cop

and any number of mentally confused states

now it is a given that the music industry is as corrupt as
big pharma and a primary tool of indoctrination and
programming ( race wars )

if Rik did find stuff it is possible that stuff was
booby trapped ( triggers embedded ) so as to lead to
his deteriorating mental state
that would explain his family believeing he went down
the spiral and they feel he is better off ?


the adrenal problem was a clue he was being given
the gradual deletion by unprovable means


when anyone decides to do the EXPOSE thing

they must not announce it before hand and need
copies of all writings and PROOFS placed in at least
THREE safe hands JUST IN CASE.



synergy777

you are right on about all of us sharing what we have

if we dont we will NEVER reach that hundredth monkey
who maybe a kid in a libary on the other side of the world
RIGHT NOW .

sharing pieces among the greatest number allows bits
to jump into place that may not if we havent the inputs
to shove them over to the vacant hole in the GREAT PUZZLE,
those Eureka moments.

All of this can be done right in this forum as it has quite a
good jump start already and a huge outreach

maybe the Admin will make other subforums
and we can all read as much as we can handle
that way we allow UNIVERSE to guide us as to
what we need to access next.

In catching up on threads here, :eek: , I find I jump
from topic to topic sort of what draws attention
after I check NEWS every day
I find some times I am drawn to a topic re something
I have been studying and didnt know that topic was
even covered here. kool.

here we do have various topics to seek the variety our
INNER SEEKER wants us to access at any given point

may all your investigations be fruitful. :)


.

[petercookie]

the most suspicious thing is the 9/11 ritual, an illuminati signature imho.

rik's ashes were scattered on september 11, exactly 7 years after 9/11.

Yea i think that could be a big clue has to what as went on. What are the chances of that?? To me he seemed a positive person who looks on the brighter side of life and i do think he has been killled by someone (i could be wrong)

Its intresting that not long after the RIR interview this happens.......

Maybe hes family had an influence in hes death? I know that sounds bad and paranoid but i think you have to look at all angles and realize that for the truth to come out you have to search every possabilty.

I havent researched this that much but from what i have gathered something foul is going on here and it would be good to find out what.

Good people die and good people do nothing...........

I just hope he rests in peace ....

[solacy]

Hi guys, it's my first post, however, I have been actively looking at these forums and other websites talking about Rik Clay.

I just pose a few questions;

If your son suddenly committed suicide after releasing some pretty serious findings to do with masonry symbolism and pretty conclusive Olympic 2012 symbolism with connections to high authorities on this planet would you be this quiet about it?

I don't even have a son but I know if I did, I would be out there carrying on his work. I know Rik could have been killed by a powerful group, but even if he was, the more that this gets out there the safer his parents and relatives are gonna be to be honest.

So, has Rik's parents even said anything since around the time of his death? Doesn't seem like they did.

[haukipesukone]

It's hard to say.:(

He came across in the radio interviews as a bit "overloaded" and ungrounded. He sounded like he was going through a heavy Spiritual Emergence Crisis. It can be a depressing ordeal for some people.

So what? I've been depressed and suicidal countless of times and I'm still here. It's like saying failing an exam at school or losing a job is reasonable evidence for suicide. They can make you feel crappy, but I think it takes a lot more for someone to kill themselves.

But Rik was an artist and gay, those things prove he's mentally unbalanced and prone to suicide...

[johntitor]

"Suicide"

I think not people. A case of an lsd trip and a fall from a window !!!

All one big cover up by his parents.. The PTB assisted !!! His parents would never want people to know the real truth regarding his death.


This information was posted on his myspace account hours after his fall from his bedroom window, by a lady friend of rik's !!! It was deleted shortly after from the myspace account..

The last comment i read before it was taken down was ''get well soon'', at this time Rik was in bed at home with plasters on his legs...


That night he passed away....

No conspiracy only experimentation in the world of trips...

haha....

TRUTH HURTS !!!!!!

[hagbard_celine]

So what? I've been depressed and suicidal countless of times and I'm still here. It's like saying failing an exam at school or losing a job is reasonable evidence for suicide. They can make you feel crappy, but I think it takes a lot more for someone to kill themselves.

But Rik was an artist and gay, those things prove he's mentally unbalanced and prone to suicide...

I didn't know he was either.:confused: Nor do I consider either relevent.

But I interpreted his manner, retrospectively, as being a bit ungrounded. It's always possible it was too much for the poor bloke. Ian makes that point regarding Stuart Wilde's ideas.

[humito]

just a thought...........rik mentions that he was attuned to reiki...........i am too and its an amazing energy.........however if the elites were on to him at the time i wonder who the reki "master" was who did the attunement.........maybe the attunement was done in such a way that demonic forces were attached to him.....it would be interesting to know who performed his attunement and when..........there should be a cetificate and lineage information about the master if it wass done by a reputable healer.perhaps they got to him this way?

[subl1minal]

So what? I've been depressed and suicidal countless of times and I'm still here. It's like saying failing an exam at school or losing a job is reasonable evidence for suicide. They can make you feel crappy, but I think it takes a lot more for someone to kill themselves.

But Rik was an artist and gay, those things prove he's mentally unbalanced and prone to suicide...

I'm an artist and I'm gay, yet I'm not mentally unbalanced and prone to suicide. The last thing I want to do is committ suicide living in these interesting times. And I'm sure Rik was the same way. Unless the LSD trip or whatever played a part in it.

Unless you were being sarcastic, that's quite a stupid fucking assumption to make.

[johntitor]

just a thought...........rik mentions that he was attuned to reiki...........i am too and its an amazing energy.........however if the elites were on to him at the time i wonder who the reki "master" was who did the attunement.........maybe the attunement was done in such a way that demonic forces were attached to him.....it would be interesting to know who performed his attunement and when..........there should be a cetificate and lineage information about the master if it wass done by a reputable healer.perhaps they got to him this way?\\\

Riks death was not performed by magic ! Its a plain simple old fact of miss-adventure !! He was younge and influencial that was paramount from everything i have read. His parents were of the ELITE!!!

Was he about to spill the beans on the industry ? If it was anything but a drug related death then the only other possibility was his parents wishes..

Why do earthlings cling to rik like a blob of humming nasty on my shoe ??

You rik followers are all Younge and easily influenced.. .. . Sorry its true.. .. . Suggestion is to do your own leg work, Dont bow to the work of those gone ! After all he only replicated whats already been exposed.. .. Well, apart from what he was working upto before his death..

Now....now then people, is there something more to this tale ?

lol.. .. .. . . . . . . . . . .x

[haukipesukone]

I'm an artist and I'm gay, yet I'm not mentally unbalanced and prone to suicide. The last thing I want to do is committ suicide living in these interesting times. And I'm sure Rik was the same way. Unless the LSD trip or whatever played a part in it.

Unless you were being sarcastic, that's quite a stupid fucking assumption to make.

It would be quite stupid to think I wasn't being sarcastic.

\\\

Riks death was not performed by magic ! Its a plain simple old fact of miss-adventure !! He was younge and influencial that was paramount from everything i have read. His parents were of the ELITE!!!


Who were his parents then?

[johntitor]

It would be quite stupid to think I wasn't being sarcastic.



Who were his parents then?

Stunted Records.... C L I C K - H E R E (http://www.stuntedrecords.co.uk/) > !

His parents own and manage the above company.

[subl1minal]

It would be quite stupid to think I wasn't being sarcastic.

Well in that case, I apologise.

\\\

Riks death was not performed by magic ! Its a plain simple old fact of miss-adventure !! He was younge and influencial that was paramount from everything i have read. His parents were of the ELITE!!!

Was he about to spill the beans on the industry ? If it was anything but a drug related death then the only other possibility was his parents wishes..

Why do earthlings cling to rik like a blob of humming nasty on my shoe ??

You rik followers are all Younge and easily influenced.. .. . Sorry its true.. .. . Suggestion is to do your own leg work, Dont bow to the work of those gone ! After all he only replicated whats already been exposed.. .. Well, apart from what he was working upto before his death..

Now....now then people, is there something more to this tale ?

lol.. .. .. . . . . . . . . . .x


Well he made progress in places no one else had brought up, I mean Riks stuff is still very new to people and then to find out he's passed on, it's like woa? guess I have to continue for myself?

It's so much easier when you had a very clever researcher such as Rik cracking the codes. And your possible reason for his death would tie onto the rumours that his ashes were spread on September 11 2008. The good ol' important date.

[musicaddict]

Being gay does not make you mentally unbalanced.

So what? I've been depressed and suicidal countless of times and I'm still here. It's like saying failing an exam at school or losing a job is reasonable evidence for suicide. They can make you feel crappy, but I think it takes a lot more for someone to kill themselves.

But Rik was an artist and gay, those things prove he's mentally unbalanced and prone to suicide...

[banjoreality]

just as being mentally unbalanced does not make you gay:)

[chimeraworld]

Rik Clay would have LOVED the new 2012 Olympic mascots

http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2010/05/london-2012-olympics-mascots-wenlocke.html

oh, a new dawn: the all-seeing eye of Wenlocke and Mandeville born from the (symbolic) death of (the steel) industry. Fluoride-poisoned kids on an e-numbered out-of-a-rainbow high.

yeah, that's the sort of cynical mascotism I want for my occult Olympics.

[hagbard_celine]

Rik Clay would have LOVED the new 2012 Olympic mascots

http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2010/05/london-2012-olympics-mascots-wenlocke.html

oh, a new dawn: the all-seeing eye of Wenlocke and Mandeville born from the (symbolic) death of (the steel) industry. Fluoride-poisoned kids on an e-numbered out-of-a-rainbow high.

yeah, that's the sort of cynical mascotism I want for my occult Olympics.

They look like extracted teeth!:eek::confused:

[wwu777]

Hi guys, it's my first post, however, I have been actively looking at these forums and other websites talking about Rik Clay.

I just pose a few questions;

If your son suddenly committed suicide after releasing some pretty serious findings to do with masonry symbolism and pretty conclusive Olympic 2012 symbolism with connections to high authorities on this planet would you be this quiet about it?

I don't even have a son but I know if I did, I would be out there carrying on his work. I know Rik could have been killed by a powerful group, but even if he was, the more that this gets out there the safer his parents and relatives are gonna be to be honest.

So, has Rik's parents even said anything since around the time of his death? Doesn't seem like they did.

Why don't some of you in the UK go visit his family and interview them, preferably on video?

So what did Rik say that other researchers haven't said, that could have gotten him killed?

[wwu777]

he was about to do a music industry expose and personally the elite can use many ways from chemical/electronic, and false suicides eg dr kelly to make a person kill himself. Also they can use the spiritual angle eg demons, curses, dreams, voices etc.

the process of gnosis, the waking up to this stuff can destroy your mind, believe me i know from personal experience, i went through some crazy stuff.

Same here. I'm going through it right now. It feels as if hostile unseen forces are harassing you at night or something, like there is some bad vibe being directed at you.

I also get this strange hunch that at a higher level of things, beyond what David Icke has told us, there is a secret or truth that is so disturbing and horrifying, that if we knew about it, we'd go insane and couldn't deal with it. Any of you ever get that hunch? It comes late at night for me usually.

It's as if something in us realizes that insanity is the true reality, and the sane state of mind we try to keep ourselves in is an illusion or artificiality.

Or of course, that could be just how we feel when we are depressed?

What do you think?

[wwu777]

"Suicide"

I think not people. A case of an lsd trip and a fall from a window !!!

All one big cover up by his parents.. The PTB assisted !!! His parents would never want people to know the real truth regarding his death.


This information was posted on his myspace account hours after his fall from his bedroom window, by a lady friend of rik's !!! It was deleted shortly after from the myspace account..

The last comment i read before it was taken down was ''get well soon'', at this time Rik was in bed at home with plasters on his legs...


That night he passed away....

No conspiracy only experimentation in the world of trips...

haha....

TRUTH HURTS !!!!!!

If his condition was critical then why did the doctors let him go home?

And why was his blog suddenly removed? How do you explain that?

[hagbard_celine]

Why don't some of you in the UK go visit his family and interview them, preferably on video?


They might not want to comment.:eek::o

[thusnelda]

Says it all

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6078610/London-Zion-2012-Book

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72881

Reminds me of JFK and his famous Secret Society Speech only some days before he was assassinated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA

[subl1minal]

Says it all

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6078610/London-Zion-2012-Book

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72881

Reminds me of JFK and his famous Secret Society Speech only some days before he was assassinated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA


I agree! He was on to something huuuge. And we're drawing ever closer to it!

Same here. I'm going through it right now. It feels as if hostile unseen forces are harassing you at night or something, like there is some bad vibe being directed at you.

I also get this strange hunch that at a higher level of things, beyond what David Icke has told us, there is a secret or truth that is so disturbing and horrifying, that if we knew about it, we'd go insane and couldn't deal with it. Any of you ever get that hunch? It comes late at night for me usually.

It's as if something in us realizes that insanity is the true reality, and the sane state of mind we try to keep ourselves in is an illusion or artificiality.

Or of course, that could be just how we feel when we are depressed?

What do you think?

That's just your mind taking over. Fear is a low vibration and everything is systematically programmed and structured to keep us all in fear. So if that's the case, what is there to fear? they're trying to hold us into that vibration. When you realise this, you realise there is actually nothing to fear. It's only the mind/ego that fears. Not you.

[eternal_spirit]

Come off it comparing Rick to JFK.
I have the greatest sympathy for suicide victims and their family/friends, but I do believe some here are imagining far too much.

People do jump out of windows on trips.

So if anyone thinks he was bumped off? What did he know that someone wanted keeping quiet?

Paste it into a reply please.

Point is people have spilled much larger cans of beans and are still alive.
As far as I'm aware Rick brought nothing new to the conspiracy table that other's weren't already parroting and linking by the thousands.

I don't believe he was bumped off.

[thusnelda]

I don't believe a thing, but he was quite popular among the very young who would never read a book by "weird lizard freaks" for example, you know what I mean. Rik may have been more dangerous for that reason than defamed David Icke for example, when I look at the contents of his book http://www.scribd.com/doc/6078610/London-Zion-2012-Book
In addition the topic he was investigating and exposing is a huge money generating factory with a short-term aim.

[subl1minal]

Come off it comparing Rick to JFK.
I have the greatest sympathy for suicide victims and their family/friends, but I do believe some here are imagining far too much.

People do jump out of windows on trips.

So if anyone thinks he was bumped off? What did he know that someone wanted keeping quiet?

Paste it into a reply please.

Point is people have spilled much larger cans of beans and are still alive.
As far as I'm aware Rick brought nothing new to the conspiracy table that other's weren't already parroting and linking by the thousands.

I don't believe he was bumped off.

Why would he commit suicide when he was clearly excited exploring this whole 2012 stuff? surely he would've wanted to see of any of his findings came to fruition.

Or he was so close to the truth of certain plans that he got bumped off. His findings are shocking enough. I mean who else figured out that the 2012 logo spelt ZION? lol

[kevin]

Rik,
Would have been very interested in the medals??
Energy lines????
Serpent along them????/
Kevin

[302bluefog]

Rik,
Would have been very interested in the medals??
Energy lines????
Serpent along them????/
Kevin

Same here. I'm going through it right now. It feels as if hostile unseen forces are harassing you at night or something, like there is some bad vibe being directed at you.

I also get this strange hunch that at a higher level of things, beyond what David Icke has told us, there is a secret or truth that is so disturbing and horrifying, that if we knew about it, we'd go insane and couldn't deal with it. Any of you ever get that hunch? It comes late at night for me usually.

It's as if something in us realizes that insanity is the true reality, and the sane state of mind we try to keep ourselves in is an illusion or artificiality.

Or of course, that could be just how we feel when we are depressed?

What do you think?

That's Deep as the Abyss...

[magnoc]

That's Deep as the Abyss...

No not that deep, Its his EGO, reallity is infinate love.