mental health and the NHS

[carsick]

since the NHS hand out depopulation medications and treatments etc , how do they treat mental illness as far as therapy goes?? i know they give pills that cause states of aneixty to them and can mess them up bad.

i have a freind who see's a therapist everyweek and am concerned , she doesnt take the drugs they offer

[shepherdess]

I know someone been through the mental health system. She's no better, She just has better ways of hiding it...
Shes been on all the pills there are and through 'councilling' and almost electric shock treatment.
Nothing improved, She just lost the abilty through medication to deal or complain of it.
She believes the pills she had been perscribed have seriously damaged her memory.
She has symptoms similar to alzhiemers (Im 32) where she cannot remember things. Not just little things, but forgetting where she parked the car, what car she owned and what colour it was...all in one incident, only know she had one because of the keys in her hand.
They dont warn you of that, and they dont warn you about your inability to mix with the rest of the world when you are on these things. The feeling of separation from everything she says, is intense but you feel like you dont care.
Her final realisation about these medications was the discovery of the use of fluoride in them. Match that to its known effects, and its uses during the war and it matches how she felt.
She was first perscribed Prozac after miscarrying and desperatly trying for another child. She was perscribed maximum dose of Prozac (almost solely fluoride and fluoride is fertility inhibiting) which probably reduced her chances of pregnancy hugely...In short, perscribing a woman a medication, for mental instability due to wanting a child, that would never allow her to become pregnant.Now, Im no doctor, but that seems a little dim.
She was put on the mental health register in 2000 and warned if she didnt take medication the papers she had to sign would allow them to 'lock me up.'

Her problems stem around an intense fear of catching and speading disease combined with the terror that someone is trying to poison her..from as long as she and her mother can remember. I'm wondering now if she was so wrong to feel that way from birth...perhaps she knew something the rest of the world are only just waking up to?

[tracker]

i cant comment on any individul case but can give you the truth into the nature of NHS mental health .

with out sick people or folks labbeled as mentaly ill , they have no lucrative income to justify their jobs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!so whatwe really have a a system that makes a living on sick folks , with out them , their is no career !

i call these guys "the net" for those who are not brain washed .
:cool:

[godspeed]

i first started getting anxiety attacks while i was working and they were very worrying and the loss of energy after left me exhausted,so i went to see a doctor for the first time in my life,i have since been dealing with severe mentl health problems for 9yrs,first i got prozac that heightened my anxiety and brought on thoughts of suicide which near drove me crazy so i went back to doc and was put on zeroxat which was worse,5yrs ago i was very unsettled in my life and drinking a lot so i came back home to my fathers house for shelter from the storms,i tried to get off the medication but the anxiety attacks were free floating and struck me almost anywere,so again i went to see a doc here and was given trazadone to help me sleep as well,
to cut a long story short my father who i live with was accused of a terrible crime which is completely false and was sent to jail for 3 yrs,so im left on my own and i fell apart as my dad was my rock and the injustice of it all was too much for any healthy person to take,i stopped eating properly and my weight dropped to 5st 13 so off i went to the hospital,to see if it was me or the medication i was on that caused this,trazadone has i side effect loss of appetite so i talked about why i would be given a pill that kills the appetite when i was always underweight before that,anyway they said i was'nt depressed it was just a re-adjustment i was going thru and have since made it hard for me to get income support while im appealing incapacity decision to declare me fit for work,ive had no income since end of may and needless to say now i cant afford to eat or pay my bills,all because of one psychiatrist i spoke to for ten minutes in hospital,who knows nothing about how it effects everyday life,ive still been issued an anti-depressant mitrazipie but im ok to work,ive told them all were to go and that its my mind thats broken and i think i should be the one making big desicions about my health and future not bullied into submission,so if there is anyone else experiencing difficultys with these people please let us know as its not healthy when they treat you like a suspect and they dont know your history of the illness called anxiety and depression,
i have since had the most awful days of my life,i now think the state is targetting me in the hope i will end my life and go quietly but i will fight for my life,i will starve eventualy but i wont be bullied by these people making all the wrong decisions for me,no rent is getting paid and im now a dirty squatter again as the housing assoc want to evict me and ive no claim on my dads house seemingly and my social worker has only promised me a b%b for a 5 bedroom family home,its beyond a joke that i have all of babylon against me,yet here i stand,in the face of diversity i am me and i am free.
anyone else out there getting such a hard time of it,now they have desided to send all the depressed people back to work,can you imagine the stress that will bring on,its complete madness,the lunatics are running the asylum and thier not very good at it and they dont really care what happens with their stupid idea's that people with a mental illness will function out there in the real world,we wont as it causes anti-social behaviour and we live in our own private prisons that the drugs you gave us to help built up over the years we were left to our own devises.....good luck out there and hope i make it out the other end of this experience,with god by my side.

[krakhead]

since the NHS hand out depopulation medications and treatments etc ,

Nonsense -get a grip

how do they treat mental illness as far as therapy goes??

Which mental illness specifically? If you can give bit more information I may be able to answer you.

i know they give pills that cause states of aneixty to them and can mess them up bad.

Again, nonsense. Well, intentionally anyway. Some medications can have side-effects. If you really believe it's being given to purposefully cause anxiety then you are, frankly, wrong.

i have a freind who see's a therapist everyweek and am concerned , she doesnt take the drugs they offer

Again, if you are able to give more details - what is she experiencing, has she been given a diagnosis, what medication have they offered etc. I may be able to answer you better

[apekteina lordosis]

i ended up in a scottish nhs mental health hospital for 8 weeks
a few years back and the doctors were great, they allowed me
to talk myself down and respected my wish not to use medication.

the last couple of weeks saw me make the choice to try a
anti-psychotic medication, risperidone. but once home i stopped
using it as it made me feel like a zombie. few month later i ended
up having a mini episode and was prescribed olanzapine, another
anti-psychotic, which i got along with okay. i don't take it all the
time, only when i start to feel unwell. a couple of month of the
stuff sorts my head right out and i'm back to feeling more comfortable.

ideally couch sessions would suit me best but the nhs doesn't have
enough therapists to go round, such is life.

as for what put me in hospital it was a combination of lack of sleep,
smoking inferior hashish, dabbling in the occult, being full on 24/7
into the conspiracy scene and looking directly at the sun as it rose
every morning for a period of about 9 month (please don't try this
at home kids).

i never had the urge to harm myself or others but that's not to say
other people who become mentally unwell from studying the untypical
don't. so my advice is be very very careful with this lark, it can really
mess with your head to the point of where you end up taking your own life.

fight what you can fight, the erosion of our civil liberties. don't take on
what can't be seen, your arse will get whipped and you may very well
end up as a mental vegetable for many month, or worse. these entities
ain't fucking about just for the giggle...

[swoarg]

i first started getting anxiety attacks while i was working and they were very worrying and the loss of energy after left me exhausted,


ive had mental health problems my self, this year i have been trying to find out whats actualy wrong with me as i have allways been abit different and allways wonderd why. meds just made me worst but made what worst i asked myself.
anyway so i started to research my problems on the net, some problems i had i could not recognise until i read about them.

[keystone]

Again, nonsense. Well, intentionally anyway. Some medications can have side-effects. If you really believe it's being given to purposefully cause anxiety then you are, frankly, wrong.You are right Krakhead. For example - two of the possible side effects of prozac are anxiety attacks and suicidal tendencies but that's CYA on behalf of the pharmaceutical peeps and the doctors. So the poster is not only wrong they have an overactive imagination.

[krakhead]

You are right Krakhead. For example - two of the possible side effects of prozac are anxiety attacks and suicidal tendencies but that's CYA on behalf of the pharmaceutical peeps and the doctors. So the poster is not only wrong they have an overactive imagination.

What's CYA? :confused:

Without knowing that I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not! ;)

[keystone]

What's CYA? :confused:

Without knowing that I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not! ;)Sorry - it's Cover Your Arse

[krakhead]

Sorry it's Cover Your Arse. :D

Oh ok, so it WAS sarcasm! Lol! :D

POSSIBLE side effects - I know of lots of people who are better on anti-depressants (that's not to say I don't think they're not over prescribed btw)

But, the PURPOSEFUL prescribing of something, with the EXPRESS intent of making someone anxious? No. Definitely not - and I suppose I have to add the addendum - to make it fair like - that this was certainly not the case with any of the psychiatrists I have worked with, or was it a 'plan of care' for any patient in any of the psychiatric hospitals I have worked in around the country - 27 all told if you include where I've worked as an agency nurse.

Does the bit in brackets make sense? :confused:

[keystone]

Oh ok, so it WAS sarcasm! Lol! :DOh good grief no - CYA is a well known management process! :D

Does the bit in brackets make sense? :confused:definately.

[carsick]

harsh storys everyone , chin up chin up godspeed

my friend is agraphobic and socialphobic , she did take the pills for a month or two and they jus fucked her up , and i have a schizophrenic mate who doesnt take his pills , some of my other mates take them pills an spike eachother (silly i no) , but theese mates that got spiked (non schiz) sed they were extremely anxious , extremely , how can you be so shure of them krakhead , with everything else they do to us!!?

i was meaning the therapists , they wont do any damage will they??

[marpat]

since the NHS hand out depopulation medications and treatments etc , how do they treat mental illness as far as therapy goes?? i know they give pills that cause states of aneixty to them and can mess them up bad.

i have a freind who see's a therapist everyweek and am concerned , she doesnt take the drugs they offer

Can you list these medicines, their effects and how many people they have killed?

[krakhead]

harsh storys everyone , chin up chin up godspeed

my friend is agraphobic and socialphobic , she did take the pills for a month or two and they jus fucked her up , and i have a schizophrenic mate who doesnt take his pills , some of my other mates take them pills an spike eachother (silly i no) , but theese mates that got spiked (non schiz) sed they were extremely anxious , extremely , how can you be so shure of them krakhead , with everything else they do to us!!?

i was meaning the therapists , they wont do any damage will they??

Sorry to hear about your friend, do you know what medication she was prescribed exactly?

Also, to take medication you're not prescribed, intended for symptoms you're NOT suffering from is, IMO, very silly indeed!

I am sure of them because I've been qualified as a psychiatric nurse for 14 yeas.

And sorry to ask more questions, but what therapy in particular? Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) would be my guess for agoraphobia/social phobia - VERY good therapy, and this time NOT just in my opinion, but also the patients I have worked with within a CBT framework.

Also, what else do 'they' do to us? What do you mean?

p.s. congratulations on spelling schizophrenic correctly! Not many people manage that! Including nurses! ;)