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velvetexplorer

11-09-2008, 06:30 PM

There is a reason I put the link in my signature that I did.

This is a site which reveals the entire luciferian based agenda, life as we see it, and kabbalism.

Although David and other conspiracy researchers uncover factual and critical evidence, their conlusions are not accurate and complete.

This is the reason people, such as 99% of the people on this site and others, remain in a quandary about life; remain in fear of world happenings, death, etc.

There is no need to remain imprisoned like this.

Check out the conclusive, critical evidence on the site I provided the link for.

Whether you believe it all or not, it will give you an entirely new outlook on the world. It will bring you clarity, awareness and a lot of relief if you take the time to read.

You owe it to yourself. You won't be sorry.

Here is the url for those who don't want to click on the link below:
http://www.illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com

~

pheony

11-09-2008, 07:01 PM

Thankyou, will take the time to read what it has to say.

tracker

11-09-2008, 07:25 PM

sounds rather interdimensional and phisical , let alone logical , very good thread , i may take my time to visit that contact info again soon . thankyou .:D

velvetexplorer

11-09-2008, 08:37 PM

Thanks. You'll be surprised at what you find there.

Also, there is a brand new discussion forum to accompany the site. It is here:

http://illumatrix.proboards105.com/index.cgi

:D

cruise4

11-09-2008, 08:44 PM

Cheers, interesting site.

ban freekmasons

12-09-2008, 09:13 AM

A thousand kudos for you Velvetexplorer. Everyone should read this to help them understand themselves and the bigger picture. Thank you.

oiram

12-09-2008, 03:09 PM

Good reading; a bit on the heavy side for newcomers & common person!

I wished they would have this Article in a bit more simple form; so all People would understand the underlining points!

illuminatiMATRIX

the unveiling and revelation of the war on humanity
The Blueprint - The Manipulation - The SOLUTION
December 8, 2006
the luciferian blueprint - the key that unlocks - the source of religion

Bryan Kemila
http://illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com/

By the way "velvetexplorer" Your aviator Pic; is terrible! Just my honest Viewpoint!

Peace!!!

velvetexplorer

12-09-2008, 07:27 PM

cruise4 -- thanks! I hope you (and others) gain something from it.

ban freekmasons -- thank you. I'm glad you found it valuable. The more time I spend there (still), the more it sinks in; the easier I find it to handle the complexities and tradgedies occurring all around us, day to day.

oiram -- It does get easier. It's not easy to rationalize the information because he is writing about the actions and motives of the irrational -- the luciferian egregore group of thinkers. Actually, it's very understandable if you find it difficult to grasp. It should be difficult -- at first. You are accustomed to what they have forced us to be for our entire lives; that is not who you really are. As for my avatar -- it's a matter of opinion, yes? :)

deafbred

12-09-2008, 08:59 PM

i think your avatar is cool

anyways - i read the link to luminatrix and the concepts seem cool

i will have to do more reading though

ban freekmasons

13-09-2008, 01:17 PM

After reading this site, I have decided to retract my first post praising the articles. I was a bit hasty but after two days research, I tend to agree mostly with the readers comments.

keystone

13-09-2008, 03:24 PM

After reading this site, I have decided to retract my first post praising the articles.So you didn't really read it then the title prompted you to wade in with praise just on it's own huh?

I was a bit hasty but after two days research, I tend to agree mostly with the readers comments.Does that mean you don't understand it then? Quite heavy going I grant you.

ban freekmasons

13-09-2008, 06:38 PM

So you didn't really read it then the title prompted you to wade in with praise just on it's own huh?

Does that mean you don't understand it then? Quite heavy going I grant you.

ello mason keystone, understood it perfectly.

just can't understand your cowardly, twisted, deranged personal attacks.

anyone can read your previous postings/responses to anything revealing about the criminal organisation you defend

have a nice day :)

keystone

13-09-2008, 06:48 PM

ello mason keystone, understood it perfectly.No you clearly demonstrate you don't understand the first thing. How can I help you?

just can't understand your cowardly, example please..

twisted, example please

deranged example please

personal example please

attacks.People in glass houses my friend.

anyone can read your previous postings/responses to anything revealing about the criminal organisation you defendcould we have this one in English please? Thanks.

have a nice day :)

You are too kind and to you as well.

ban freekmasons

13-09-2008, 06:51 PM

No you clearly demonstrate you don't understand the first thing. How can I help you?

example please..

example please

example please

example please

People in glass houses my friend.

could we have this one in English please? Thanks.

You are too kind and to you as well.

good mason, no problem. just reveal yourself and we'll talk yeah ?

bye

keystone

13-09-2008, 07:00 PM

good mason, no problem. just reveal yourself and we'll talk yeah ?

byeNo - I can't. I don't exist apparently.

Anyway - why can't you answer the questions posed of you instead of constantly changing the subject or ignoring them.

keystone

13-09-2008, 07:26 PM

Joe

Why should YOU always hold all the cards huh?

Your sig here used to say:

We are all victims of Freemasonry, only........ YOU haven't figured it out yet. We at the Anti Corruption Party do not hate Masons or anybody, only ignorance and evil. Incidentally, Joe Stirling is a collective of victims and truth-seekers. You may not get an answer directly from Joe.

until you changed it to:

We are all victims of Freemasonry, only........ YOU haven't figured it out yet. We at the Anti Corruption Party do not hate Masons or anybody, only ignorance and evil. Why do all Masons hide ? Give us a public register and ACP will show you why they all hide.

and yet you still use the whole sig on other forums whilst you were under warning here. And you have the brass front to accuse others of hiding. If different people are posting as Joe Stirling how can anyone trust what you say? Tel you what lets have a public register of ACP. Would seem like a good start and show good faith.

Oh and I'm still waiting for your phone call BTW.

velvetexplorer

13-09-2008, 10:01 PM

i think your avatar is cool

anyways - i read the link to luminatrix and the concepts seem cool

i will have to do more reading though

Thanks, deafbred. Enjoy the continued reading there. There is much to absorb. :)

velvetexplorer

13-09-2008, 10:03 PM

After reading this site, I have decided to retract my first post praising the articles. I was a bit hasty but after two days research, I tend to agree mostly with the readers comments.

ban -- It's a lot to absorb, granted. It takes awhile to sink in, to mesh and settle. Once you get a hint of how freeing it is, though, you can never go back. You can never un-do the remarkable effects that the realizations have on you. Anyway, best to you in your life endeavours.

ban freekmasons

14-09-2008, 08:11 AM

Joe

Tel you what lets have a public register of ACP. Would seem like a good start and show good faith.

Oh and I'm still waiting for your phone call BTW.

Would you like an international list or UK only ? What's your landline number ?

jacob sladder

14-09-2008, 08:18 AM

UK list will do for me thanks!
Send it and I'll investigate.
Thanks.

JS.

keystone

14-09-2008, 08:52 AM

What's your landline number ?I've already written it down for you!!

How many times? :rolleyes:

ban freekmasons

14-09-2008, 09:59 AM

Where ?

keystone

14-09-2008, 11:28 AM

Oh stop pretending.

lizzy

14-09-2008, 03:55 PM

amethyst

14-09-2008, 04:52 PM

At first glance ,even reading through but not watching the vids .thsi stuff looks ok,.

BUT IT'S TOTAL DIS-INFO........

it mixes everything up.......coming up with the idea that lucifer is a protron coming with the big bang......which really does'nt blame the elite for anything , they are off the hook with this shit........and that's the point of it.......

it is not clever and TOTAL CRAP.

Yep, you're right Lizzy. It's got "partial' truth but it mixed up with disinfo lies unfortunately.

This site is actually pointing folks favorably towards what these luciferians do and approve of. The disinfo's snuck in.

And Jesus is not Zeus :rolleyes:

How do they come up with this stupid stuff?

velvetexplorer

14-09-2008, 07:27 PM

Yep, you're right Lizzy. It's got "partial' truth but it mixed up with disinfo lies unfortunately.

This site is actually pointing folks favorably towards what these luciferians do and approve of. The disinfo's snuck in.

And Jesus is not Zeus :rolleyes:

How do they come up with this stupid stuff?

It is a lot to read and absorb -- true.
At first glance, taking each piece by itself, without looking at his information with an all-encompassing view, then I agree -- information can appear as dis-information, much like taking anything you read 'out of context'.

I'd like to invite you to come to the discussion forum to share your views. You don't have to believe it to discuss it. :)

http://illumatrix.proboards105.com/index.cgi

The forum is brand new, so be kind. It's just getting going. Hope to see you there.

silver_eyes

14-09-2008, 07:49 PM

i think he has some decent view just a very bland way of depicting them

velvetexplorer

14-09-2008, 09:19 PM

silver eyes -- bland? Really? Have you looked at various pages, not just page 1? All the pages contain fascinating, captivating, intriguing information in drawings with such dramatic detail and intricate information... I find it hard to call bland! But, OK.

Anyway, glad you see some value in it. :)

lizzy

14-09-2008, 10:38 PM

It is a lot to read and absorb -- true.
At first glance, taking each piece by itself, without looking at his information with an all-encompassing view, then I agree -- information can appear as dis-information, much like taking anything you read 'out of context'.

I'd like to invite you to come to the discussion forum to share your views. You don't have to believe it to discuss it. :)

http://illumatrix.proboards105.com/index.cgi

The forum is brand new, so be kind. It's just getting going. Hope to see you there.

Look ve,

there is nothing to absorb here......except the fact that if you swollow this dis-info crap you will be in a world of confusion.........

BUT isn't that exactly where you want to take some newly awaken souls ?

This pathetic fraud keeps the real psychopaths who have created and continue to create humanitys' mind controlled matrix in business.

I bet your some ugly NWO goffer, trying to build another fucking head trap, ..it's not even a well thought out trap...

IT'S UTTER SHITE............that let's your masters' OFF THE HOOK!!!!!!!

so anyway, where is this discussion forum you mention ......do you mean here.....or is there a particular place you pipe the newbies off too????.

sithnemesis

14-09-2008, 10:46 PM

Am not sure if it's all dis-info... but there sure is some interesting info there...

Cheers for posting this link... certainly a different outlook on things which we all seem to be in the dark...

I do agree with some parts of the research on this site...:)

keystone

14-09-2008, 10:50 PM

Go on Lizzy don't beat about the bush - say what you really think! :D

lizzy

14-09-2008, 11:21 PM

critical_analysis

15-09-2008, 12:12 AM

that this world this CONTROLLED by little lucerferian atoms........:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Where as the world being controlled by shape-shifting reptilians is so much more believable?
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

sithnemesis

15-09-2008, 12:30 AM

sithnemesis

it's not the odd cool looking diagrams mate.....it's the "reasoning".....:eek::eek:

the end result!!!!.......:D LOL.........

that this world this CONTROLLED by little lucerferian atoms........:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Shape-shifing Reptilians, Alien bloodlines, Illuminati, hollow earth, Paul is dead, Pyramids built by Aliens, Dark matter of universe is just residue of a never ending/exo-blackhole, a blood pact has been signed between the evil elite and the 'macrobes', Madeleine Sacrifice of the first born, interdimensional beings controlling this reality, etc... and now along comes this thread, pseudo-scientifically theorising that a luciferian spell is being cast upon mankind subatomically.

I don't agree with the reasoning lizzy... but I will still take into consideration part of the findings of this theory... keeping an open-mind and not
drawing any conclusions... ensuring that every piece of information is analysed and validated... perhaps other theories may be written, evidence sought and if no satisfactory conclusion can be drawn... back to the drawing board again and again... :) :D

lizzy

15-09-2008, 12:33 AM

Where as the world being controlled by shape-shifting reptilians is so much more believable?
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

no way...it's just the elite humans.......born and breed to greed and power by whatever foul means ;)

lizzy

15-09-2008, 12:40 AM

Shape-shifing Reptilians, Alien bloodlines, Illuminati, hollow earth, Paul is dead, Pyramids built by Aliens, Dark matter of universe is just residue of a never ending/exo-blackhole, a blood pact has been signed between the evil elite and the 'macrobes', Madeleine Sacrifice of the first born, interdimensional beings controlling this reality, etc... and now along comes this thread, pseudo-scientifically theorising that a luciferian spell is being cast upon mankind subatomically.

I don't agree with the reasoning lizzy... but I will still take into consideration part of the findings of this theory... keeping an open-mind and not
drawing any conclusions... ensuring that every piece of information is analysed and validated... perhaps other theories may be written, evidence sought and if no satisfactory conclusion can be drawn... back to the drawing board again and again... :) :D

well said......thankyou....;) I don't subscribe to any of the above theories either..........for me it's all another trap.....this new one just happens to be rather weak at best.............

I agree we should take what we like and leave the rest......not to throw the baby out with the bath water, so to speak.....:)

but it is where they want to take you on this partiicular ride that concerns me these days....even if the scenery looks pleasant.....:eek: LOL.

velvetexplorer

15-09-2008, 10:47 PM

Look ve,

there is nothing to absorb here......except the fact that if you swollow this dis-info crap you will be in a world of confusion.........

BUT isn't that exactly where you want to take some newly awaken souls ?

This pathetic fraud keeps the real psychopaths who have created and continue to create humanitys' mind controlled matrix in business.

I bet your some ugly NWO goffer, trying to build another fucking head trap, ..it's not even a well thought out trap...

IT'S UTTER SHITE............that let's your masters' OFF THE HOOK!!!!!!!

so anyway, where is this discussion forum you mention ......do you mean here.....or is there a particular place you pipe the newbies off too????.

lizzy -- You are entitled to your view. The link for the discussion forum is right there in my signature. I have no need to "pipe" anyone off anywhere. Everyone is free to click on whatever link they wish and visit any forum they choose.

velvetexplorer

15-09-2008, 10:48 PM

Shape-shifing Reptilians, Alien bloodlines, Illuminati, hollow earth, Paul is dead, Pyramids built by Aliens, Dark matter of universe is just residue of a never ending/exo-blackhole, a blood pact has been signed between the evil elite and the 'macrobes', Madeleine Sacrifice of the first born, interdimensional beings controlling this reality, etc... and now along comes this thread, pseudo-scientifically theorising that a luciferian spell is being cast upon mankind subatomically.

I don't agree with the reasoning lizzy... but I will still take into consideration part of the findings of this theory... keeping an open-mind and not
drawing any conclusions... ensuring that every piece of information is analysed and validated... perhaps other theories may be written, evidence sought and if no satisfactory conclusion can be drawn... back to the drawing board again and again... :) :D

sithnemesis -- Good points there. Thank you. Come visit the forum if you wish. There's a lot of great points to discuss, as you know. :)

velvetexplorer

15-09-2008, 10:52 PM

Where as the world being controlled by shape-shifting reptilians is so much more believable?
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

:D Took the words right out of my mind, ca.
Come visit our new forum if you'd like. You are more than welcome.

Also, to everyone else who reads this thread -- the point which lizzy brings up regarding "excusing the elites of what they're doing" (or however it was worded), that is the furthest thing from what the site shows. It, in fact, shows precisely the opposite, and so much more. Thus, the reason I asked if anyone read past page 1 of the site. ;)

lizzy

17-09-2008, 06:55 AM

:D Took the words right out of my mind, ca.
Come visit our new forum if you'd like. You are more than welcome.

Also, to everyone else who reads this thread -- the point which lizzy brings up regarding "excusing the elites of what they're doing" (or however it was worded), that is the furthest thing from what the site shows. It, in fact, shows precisely the opposite, and so much more. Thus, the reason I asked if anyone read past page 1 of the site. ;)

Oh please........your reasoning is actually insulting to anyone with 3 functioning brain cells..........:eek:

as sithmeneisis said.....;).

"and now along comes this thread, pseudo-scientifically theorising that a luciferian spell is being cast upon mankind subatomically."

and your whole premise is based on these entities NOT the evil psychopathic ashkenazi bilderger banksters that are mentioned in your opening post, LOL ........:rolleyes:

and so you do pipe a newbie straight to your dis-info mind control website in your sig,.LOL.............:D:D:D

barney_rubble

17-09-2008, 03:55 PM

that this world this CONTROLLED by little lucerferian atoms........:rolleyes::rolleyes:

These "lucerferian atoms" are better known as "Metachlorians".

Oh sorry I am getting Star Wars mythology confused with conspiracy theories.

awakensong

19-09-2008, 05:59 AM

Interesting with a tiny bit of truth, but the sadistic nude art is just what the agenda would want in peoples' heads. A picture is worth a thousand words...

Also, using Bryan's own method of sorting through names and words, I come out with his name transposed into: ta-da! --- Eye'm a killa. Not a single word or name comes out positive according to him, so not even his does, either.

And again, when David Icke was on the Coast program last night, a caller spoke of the Rothschild name, saying it means Red Shield (roth -shield -- not Thor's Child). icke agreed.

awakensong

19-09-2008, 06:24 AM

At first glance ,even reading through but not watching the vids .thsi stuff looks ok,.

BUT IT'S TOTAL DIS-INFO........

it mixes everything up.......coming up with the idea that lucifer is a protron coming with the big bang......which really does'nt blame the elite for anything , they are off the hook with this shit........and that's the point of it.......

it is not clever and TOTAL CRAP.
This is one of the most necessary critiques and I'm so glad to see you say this, Lizzy. I agree that everything spoken of on that site about this world, is blamed on a non-entity called "Lucifer" (which was originally the planet Venus, BTW) and does let the ruling elite off the hook. Thank you, Lizzy!

velvetexplorer

19-09-2008, 11:39 PM

This is one of the most necessary critiques and I'm so glad to see you say this, Lizzy. I agree that everything spoken of on that site about this world, is blamed on a non-entity called "Lucifer" (which was originally the planet Venus, BTW) and does let the ruling elite off the hook. Thank you, Lizzy!

Nobody who speaks english, who reads Bryan's blog, while conscious, sober, awake and aware could come to that conclusion. Period.

lizzy

20-09-2008, 02:50 AM

Nobody who speaks english, who reads Bryan's blog, while conscious, sober, awake and aware could come to that conclusion. Period.

That's because YOU are none of these things.......

You are a pys-ops operation.....please take your lucerferian atoms and push them up your big bang.

lizzy

20-09-2008, 05:27 PM

velvetexplorer

21-09-2008, 12:48 AM

That's because YOU are none of these things.......

You are a pys-ops operation.....please take your lucerferian atoms and push them up your big bang.

Wow. A pys-ops operation? Please do enlighten me. What is a PYS - ops operation?

Goodness -- you're giving me far too much power over you, lizzy. :D

lizzy

21-09-2008, 01:12 AM

Wow. A pys-ops operation? Please do enlighten me. What is a PYS - ops operation?

Goodness -- you're giving me far too much power over you, lizzy. :D

Au Contraire ......:D

That I don't fall for this trash means you have never had and never will have any power over me. LOL...

..right there you give yourself away....talking about having any power over a person shows the true mentality of your thinking process...which is to deceive......and it's designed to let the Rothchilde's of this world utterly and totally off the hook......

Try again , LOL...your still at zero.

awakensong

21-09-2008, 05:19 AM

As the title of this thread states, I owe it to myself alright, to stay away from that site. If that is Bryan's perspective and cosmology, fine, and it might work just great for him, but it is irrelevant to the rest of us, as each person must discover their own.

There is no other way to walk one's path back to freedom. Anyone who tells others what they must believe is no better than all the other false religions out there.

Live and let live; believe and let believe.

purpledream

04-06-2009, 02:53 AM

purpledream

05-06-2009, 11:35 PM

I guess it was just me that noticed that, it was obvious to me as soon as I saw it.

purpledream

06-06-2009, 02:14 PM

Ever get the feeling you are just talking to yourself?

1977

06-06-2009, 08:12 PM

I have been looking at Bryan Kemila's illuminatimatrix blog, and I am sorry if I am repeating what someone else has already pointed out, but, and it is a big but. He goes on to say how the light beam is the start of everything and is made up of three primary colours. The only problem being that the primary colours of light are red, blue and green, not red, blue and yellow like he says.

Those are the primary colours, but not of light, light is different. So all his research and diagrams are all bull.

Maybe it was a little experiment of his? See how many people he could fool.
I noticed that at first, but to be fair, he did clairify that he was using the subtractive primaries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_color#Subtractive_primaries).

http://illuminatimatrix.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/sub-add-colour-mix.jpg

Everyone is always saying that the world is an illusion; Kemila has simply taken it to its logical conclusion. Read the Hermetica and Greek philosophers like Plato and Plotinus, and you will find much of the very same things discussed. This is not to say that I necessarily agree with him, but what he is saying is not as outlandish as it appears.

purpledream

07-06-2009, 01:17 AM

I do know the world is a hologram, but he is mixing up a few facts, with a lot of nonsense. He says that is a beam of light, yet those are not the primary colours of light.

He also talks about a lot of other stuff that is just nonsense. But getting the primary colours of light wrong, for me, tells me he doesn't know much of anything and just sat there making stuff up.

I think his blog is there to confuse everyone, rather than help them. How many people will just believe it all because he talks the talk? I used to be a photographer so knew instantly what he is talking about is rubbish, but others won't.

Hey thanks for replying, I was really being to think I had magick powers of invisibility. :D