Free kabbalah online course

[celtic isis]

Facebook is good for something letting me know about THIS!

Free Live Interactive Kabbalah Course - Begins Sept 3
To members of Just Kabbalah...No (red) Strings Attached!

Hi Everyone

I wanted to let you all know that a new round of the infamous Interactive Kabbalah Course will begin September 3.

This is an interactive video course complete with source texts & study materials introducing the methodology of authentic Kabbalah. These are step by step lessons revealing Kabbalah’s intended purpose and use. It’s an experience that will change how you perceive your reality.

The course runs for 24 weeks and you will cover such topics as: Language of Branches
Perceiving the Upper World
The Reason for Suffering
Secrets of the Universe
Template of Creation
The 6th Sense. The Screen.
Free Will
Perception of Reality
Perception by Opposites
True Prayer
Kabbalah & Religion the Difference
Defining the Goal
Ups and Downs in the Work

This is an absolutely free of charge course.

For registration and more information go to:

http://www.kabbalah.info/course/course.php?utm_source=kabbalah-info_kabbalah-worldwide&utm_medium=icon&utm_term=lc-course-icon&utm_campaign=semester-fall-2008#register.
Honestly, i'm so glad i found this, and right at this time, so i'm passing it on to you guys. :)

Literally my partner had it on while i was cooking sunday night, we sat down and ate while listening to it and then after side by side watching in just full captured attention listening to Tony Kosinec the teacher until 12:30 am lol

One class a week and then you get text work also, it's really a complete course in Kabbalah but really, a complete course in LIFE itself.

Hope you enjoy it!!!

[anonymousoneuk]

Nice, Thanks!

I was going to make a thread today on Kabbalah / Qabbalah, as i have been reading about it and am very intrigued by it, so this is nice timing.

Thanks again,

Peace

[celtic isis]

Nice, Thanks!

I was going to make a thread today on Kabbalah / Qabbalah, as i have been reading about it and am very intrigued by it, so this is nice timing.

Thanks again,

Peace

hey anonymousoneuk :) there ya go synchronicity again, same with me and then this came along :)

Great lecture, i've only seen the first, the second was released a few days ago just finding the time to watch it, i think each lecture online is 90 mins long, holds your attention the entire time, huge stuff, really huge.

Kabbalah's amazing!

peace to you too :) and to all of us little dots ;)

[celtic isis]

also don't worry about this kabbalah course being too jewish-y (am i allowed to say that?!) cause it isn't. :)

It's really all about Nature, the nature of life and us, how it all applies...

[anonymousoneuk]

hey anonymousoneuk :) there ya go synchronicity again, same with me and then this came along :)

Great lecture, i've only seen the first, the second was released a few days ago just finding the time to watch it, i think each lecture online is 90 mins long, holds your attention the entire time, huge stuff, really huge.

Kabbalah's amazing!

peace to you too :) and to all of us little dots ;)

Yes it was a nice sync, plus, as i was registering, i had an urge t look at the clock and it was 4.44, then i looked at the verification code and it had 777 in it.

Syncronicity or simply coincidence?

I'm sure i'll have alot more to say on this subject soon.

Peace.

[anonymousoneuk]

also don't worry about this kabbalah course being too jewish-y (am i allowed to say that?!) cause it isn't. :)

It's really all about Nature, the nature of life and us, how it all applies...

That's good, i wasn't expecting it to be too Judaic, from my readings it seems that Kabbalah has under gone abit of a renaissonce, many rabbi's having broken with traditional Judaic interpretation in order to make it more accessable to the common individual.

I also plan to study Hermetic Qabalah, for any gleanings of knowledge.

I'm naturally not looking for a relegion, just truth that might be contained in eosteric or relegious teachings.

Thanks again,

Peace.

[baron von lotsov]

also don't worry about this kabbalah course being too jewish-y (am i allowed to say that?!) cause it isn't. :)

It's really all about Nature, the nature of life and us, how it all applies...

Black is white hey?

[celtic isis]

That's good, i wasn't expecting it to be too Judaic, from my readings it seems that Kabbalah has under gone abit of a renaissonce, many rabbi's having broken with traditional Judaic interpretation in order to make it more accessable to the common individual.

I also plan to study Hermetic Qabalah, for any gleanings of knowledge.

I'm naturally not looking for a relegion, just truth that might be contained in eosteric or relegious teachings.

Thanks again,

Peace.

snap for me, totally know what you mean.

a book to check out also is the "Tarot of the Magicians" by Oswald Wirth, what i'm currently reading. Deals with all the esoteric knowledge contained within the tarot and kabbalah also, seeing as they are in their essence the same thing :)

[thirdwave]

Black is white hey?

Ying n Yang.

[baron von lotsov]

Why is it free Thirdwave? You can work it out surely. It's part of the NWO isn't it???

[velvetexplorer]

Yep -- Kabbalism. That's what our dear luciferian thinkers / egregore group of conjurer-uppers do with themselves to create this huge light show we call "LIFE".

That's all it is. Now you don't have to wonder where we come from and what we're doing here.

[anonymousoneuk]

Yep -- Kabbalism. That's what our dear luciferian thinkers / egregore group of conjurer-uppers do with themselves to create this huge light show we call "LIFE".

That's all it is. Now you don't have to wonder where we come from and what we're doing here.

Could you please elaborate a little?

Peace

[bendoon]

When you finish the course you get automatic Israeli citizenship. :rolleyes:

[zero1]

When you finish the course you get automatic Israeli citizenship. :rolleyes:

:eek: No, really?

I should probably do it then...:p

But seriously, why am I not interested in this? Kaballah has always been the mysticism I am least interested in, I don't know why exactly...

Hmm.

[anonymousoneuk]

:eek: No, really?

I should probably do it then...:p

But seriously, why am I not interested in this? Kaballah has always been the mysticism I am least interested in, I don't know why exactly...

Hmm.

Yay!

More Kabbalah for me :p ;)

Peace

[thirdwave]

Why is it free Thirdwave? You can work it out surely. It's part of the NWO isn't it???

and if it cost money it would be a rip off right!? lol

[celtic isis]

and if it cost money it would be a rip off right!? lol

lol :D

look all i know i found it extremely interesting and it's helped me alot since i watched it, feels right to me, doesn't mean if i had a knob i'd skin it lol

all knowledge is good ;)

in fairness, how many people are going to watch this? only people who already have some cop on about esoteric knowledge's existance and that it's not devil worship would even bother, so it's not NWO funded or whatever...

Even if it is it's damn good knowledge to have! i'm taking it!

[eternal_spirit]

TPTB promote Kabbalah and it's been used in mind control for a very long time.

If you believe what Matthew Delooze say and a few others about how the Brotherhood's symbols are used to drain your energies, then you're giving your power away with Kabbalah (while your being told it's the path to enlightenment) That's the con. I don't know if it's true what Delooze says but his theories are worth considering.


Something I found and not got round to reading it here

http://www.postpositive.org/images/roleOfKabbalahFoundingUSA.gif


Click here (http://www.postpositive.org/docs/roleOfKabbalahFoundingUSA.pdf) to read this paper, which defends the Lucifarian religion of Kabbalah. We include this paper here as an example of an admission — by a radically different viewpoint than our own — that occultism was a powerful influence in the founding of the United States.

and some more info same site here

http://www.postpositive.org/?page_id=103

And the teachers from the opening post look like dodgy people trained by Talmudic or some form of Judaic Rabbi. Kabblah is Brotherhood invention.

if you think you can gain something from Kabbalah-your choice, good luck. I don't think you'll achieve much IMO.

Some claim they know what they're talking about and really don't. Mostly psychobabble and superstitious hogwash.

The actual graphics and the tree of life design etc is not pleasing geomotry to the eye, which is another clue that it's not for good intentions.

[celtic isis]

no it's not, it's just kabbalah, i mean watch it if you want otherwise don't lol

it's simple!

all of us are smart enough to know when something is good or bad.

if it's bad for you then don't do it, i like to put my finger in every pie that way i get a good balance in the end.

[eternal_spirit]

no it's not, it's just kabbalah, i mean watch it if you want otherwise don't lol

it's simple!

all of us are smart enough to know when something is good or bad.

if it's bad for you then don't do it, i like to put my finger in every pie that way i get a good balance in the end.

You want some proof? that it's used im mind control...
maybe nothing you haven't allready read and not as if you wanna become some Svengali hypnotist.

It's as difficult to prove Kabblah can be used and explained by anyone I've seen try here for good as it is trying to explain how it's used in mind control.

Easy on the pies missy, us pie eaters (People from Wigan) have enough to go around :p

[thirdwave]

lol :D

look all i know i found it extremely interesting and it's helped me alot since i watched it, feels right to me, doesn't mean if i had a knob i'd skin it lol

all knowledge is good ;)

in fairness, how many people are going to watch this? only people who already have some cop on about esoteric knowledge's existance and that it's not devil worship would even bother, so it's not NWO funded or whatever...

Even if it is it's damn good knowledge to have! i'm taking it!

of course, its up to you what you find interesting not a bunch of "Inter FEAR ers" here

they don't know the truth either so who made them the bringers of light?

the true kebbala is great knowledge.

[tyler]

I'm sure authentic kabbala is a good thing but is not for the masses. It's for the evolved, those who have taken more than the kindergarten steps along the mystic path.
This free stuff that Isis has linked to reminds me of the free porn that can be found on the web. Who puts that up and who pays for it and why, why, why?
Mathew Deloose is on the right track....free porn has millions of spotty young lads sitting masturbating at their computers giving away their sexual energies to something or other. Depleting their spiritual energy whill they are tossing off and ruining their chances of having a meaningful, loving relationship with the opposite sex.
This free Kabbala, presented by a nice young jewish boy I notice, is doing the same thing.
As you work your way through life and follow whatever path your Higher Power presents you with, your intuition develops and you are able to spot a phoney immediately.

[smoking oceanus]

:eek: No, really?

I should probably do it then...:p

But seriously, why am I not interested in this? Kaballah has always been the mysticism I am least interested in, I don't know why exactly...

Hmm.



The way i see it, the biggest obsticle that faces mystical conclusions is its dependence on the infinite ambiguous intepretations of something that tells us more about how we think rather than revealing what something is.

Thats why Kabbalah and Gnostic beliefs dont mean much to me.

[thetonic]

TPTB promote Kabbalah and it's been used in mind control for a very long time.

If you believe what Matthew Delooze say and a few others about how the Brotherhood's symbols are used to drain your energies, then you're giving your power away with Kabbalah (while your being told it's the path to enlightenment) That's the con. I don't know if it's true what Delooze says but his theories are worth considering.


Something I found and not got round to reading it here

http://www.postpositive.org/images/roleOfKabbalahFoundingUSA.gif


Click here (http://www.postpositive.org/docs/roleOfKabbalahFoundingUSA.pdf) to read this paper, which defends the Lucifarian religion of Kabbalah. We include this paper here as an example of an admission — by a radically different viewpoint than our own — that occultism was a powerful influence in the founding of the United States.

and some more info same site here

http://www.postpositive.org/?page_id=103

And the teachers from the opening post look like dodgy people trained by Talmudic or some form of Judaic Rabbi. Kabblah is Brotherhood invention.

if you think you can gain something from Kabbalah-your choice, good luck. I don't think you'll achieve much IMO.

Some claim they know what they're talking about and really don't. Mostly psychobabble and superstitious hogwash.

The actual graphics and the tree of life design etc is not pleasing geomotry to the eye, which is another clue that it's not for good intentions.

Good post ES...

There is actually a load of Kabbalah going on in the U.S. currency(especiallyu the 1 dollar bill).. Kaballah is basically designed instructions(channeled of course) to manipulate your life essesence ... I mean look at the kabballah tree of life thing , its so fucking obvious with all energy points focused to a downward(sexual) point , like a tap or spigot of your essesence they can turn on and gobble up...

[thetonic]

I'm sure authentic kabbala is a good thing but is not for the masses. It's for the evolved, those who have taken more than the kindergarten steps along the mystic path.
This free stuff that Isis has linked to reminds me of the free porn that can be found on the web. Who puts that up and who pays for it and why, why, why?
Mathew Deloose is on the right track....free porn has millions of spotty young lads sitting masturbating at their computers giving away their sexual energies to something or other. Depleting their spiritual energy whill they are tossing off and ruining their chances of having a meaningful, loving relationship with the opposite sex.
This free Kabbala, presented by a nice young jewish boy I notice, is doing the same thing.
As you work your way through life and follow whatever path your Higher Power presents you with, your intuition develops and you are able to spot a phoney immediately.


Coincidentally , the two 'freebies' are put out there by the same people;)

Are we starting to put two and two together here people?!!!

[eternal_spirit]

of course, its up to you what you find interesting not a bunch of "Inter FEAR ers" here

they don't know the truth either so who made them the bringers of light?

the true kebbala is great knowledge.

I have no fear of anything occult related, I know enough and have had enough experiences. But know Kabblah is a Brotherhood creation and is said to be used in mind control.

Why do you think it's great knowledge because other people made you believe it is?

Can you explain what's so good about it and how you can use/apply this?

[eternal_spirit]

Coincidentally , the two 'freebies' are put out there by the same people;)

Are we starting to put two and two together here people?!!!



http://www.zionist-watch.net/images/general/protocols.gifhttp://www.zionist-watch.net/images/general/protocols.gif

[eternal_spirit]

Part B. The History of the Programmed Golem

from Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler's writings on mind control. Springmeier is in Prison ( He's a so called National Security issue, they've basically used terrorism laws to falsely imprison him, this is the con they use when they fear being exposed )


KABBALISTIC BLACK MAGIC

A number of the Illuminati bloodlines (and sects) that are involved in trauma-based total mind-control are Askenazi hasidic bloodlines. Legends abound from the 15th century onward about how the Askenazi hasidic leaders created golem to serve them. These golem have been called benevolent robots . For those readers who are unaware of where the word golem came from, it is used once in the Word of God in Ps 139:16, Your eyes [God s eyes] saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they were written, the days fashioned for me. This is believed by the Kabballists to refer to Adam when he was only a body without a soul. Golem are believed to be soulless bodies. One can almost hear the rationalization in medieval times when torture, and black magic or a trance state ended up creating an alter personality that this magical part was viewed as soulless, because it was only created via magic. This personality (alter) didn t exist like real people, it was merely a golem in the magicians eyes--therefore it could be abused or used as a robot, because it was soulless.

Have the Illuminati programmers created new parts via psychologic torture techniques, have they created them with black magic or both? One thing is sure, if the golem s mind --that is that if parts of the victim subjected to trauma-based mind-control remember what occurred, then it will be associated with a Cabalistic black magic ritual. There are several other features of Cabalistic black magic that are important features of Illuminati programming.

Many things pertaining to the mind-control have slipped out into public view at one time or another but are not recognized as having anything to do with programming. The European Jew Joseph Achron wrote the musical Golem Suite (1932) for an orchestra. The first piece of music introduces the golem and the last piece of music is the exact reverse mirror image of the first piece and it represents the disintegration of the golem. In programming, the deeper alters may have a musical cord to call them up, and the reverse of that cord will disintegrate them back into the mind. The following excerpts are taken from Gershom Scholem s book Kabbalah. (NY: Keter Pub. House Jerusalem, 1974.) General summaries of Kabbalistic doctrine rarely referred to its practical side [which Scholem go on to explain is black magic dealing with demons and blood]... Of course not, the practical side of the Kabbala is occult--secret knowledge. It is the secrets of black magic. Various ideas and practices connected with the concept of the golem [mind-controlled slave] also took their place in practical Kabbalah through a combination of features drawn from the Sefer Yezirah and a number of magical traditions. (Kabbala, p. 183) The practical side of the Kabbala which was concerned with creating golem employed trances, magic and visualization. Scholem writes, In this circle the Sefer Yezirah was nearly always interpreted in the manner of Saadiah and Shabbetai Donnolo [who was into what is known as Satanism], with an added tendency to see the book as a guide for both mystics and adepts of magic. The study of the

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book was considered successful when the mystic attained the vision of the golem, which was connected with a specific ritual of a remarkable ecstatic [altered state] character. (ibid., p.40) Two other points should be made showing the connection between medieval ashkenzim black magic practices and the programming going on today. The medieval jewish magicians would use the secret Kabbalistic names of God in accordance with detailed sets of instructions to try and create a golem. The golem in turn would say the combination of hebrew letters in reverse order. This has been done in modern programming.

Further, the Seal of the Holy One in medieval times was written on the forehead of the golem. This is the word emet . At some point the word s first letter (an aleph) is erased and this leaves the word met which in Hebrew means dead . Such types of sealings have also been done in modern times with deeper parts of slaves.

Kabbalah and mind control
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20596

[velvetexplorer]

Could you please elaborate a little?

Peace

Sure. However, rather than re-inventing the wheel so to speak, click on my link at bottom of my post. Or go here:

http://www.illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com

This is a site which reveals the entire luciferian based agenda, life as we see it, and kabbalism.

Although David and other conspiracy researchers uncover factual and critical evidence, their conlusions are not accurate and complete.

This is the reason people, such as 99% of the people on this site and others, remain in a quandary about life; remain in fear of world happenings, death, etc.

There is no need to remain imprisoned like this.

Check out the evidence on the site I provided the link for. :D

[zero1]

The way i see it, the biggest obsticle that faces mystical conclusions is its dependence on the infinite ambiguous intepretations of something that tells us more about how we think rather than revealing what something is.

Thats why Kabbalah and Gnostic beliefs dont mean much to me.

Good point, yes.

But the only alternative is the complete negation of all mysticism, self-enquiry and intuition as a source of information - where does that lead?

[lakkimakki]

yeah i got links to kabala videos to ; kabbalah-revealed

Pm me if you want free links to kabala videos:)

[thirdwave]

Why do you think it's great knowledge because other people made you believe it is?


No, because other people have not made me believe its not... its not like I need it or think its the saviour of the world... but some tasty gravy for the plate.

[eternal_spirit]

yeah i got links to kabala videos to ; kabbalah-revealed

Pm me if you want free links to kabala videos:)

Why not post them on the thread?

[eternal_spirit]

No, because other people have not made me believe its not... its not like I need it or think its the saviour of the world... but some tasty gravy for the plate.

Of course they have.

Can you explain what's so good about it and how you can use/apply this Kabbalistic knowledge for anything good?

[lakkimakki]

Why not post them on the thread?

i think mod wouldn't like it...

[anonymousoneuk]

Good point, yes.

But the only alternative is the complete negation of all mysticism, self-enquiry and intuition as a source of information - where does that lead?

To alcoholism? :D

So you guys are saying, no amount of study of esoterics, myticism, kabbalah, shamanism etc... could possibly free us from the clutches of the NWO's destined path of global spiritual conquest of man future?

I know this is the New Age party line but...

What if that is what they want you to think?

I mean even if i tried to wake others up, if we accept that the NWO are in control, we accept they are more likely to nuke the planet, then accept failure.

If we take it that we have somekind of innate power that allows us to shape the face of our reality, however, we atleast have some practical hope.

You seem to be suggesting all we can do is read more about how screwed we are and hope a miracle happens.

Peace

[anonymousoneuk]

Of course they have.

Can you explain what's so good about it and how you can use/apply this Kabbalistic knowledge for anything good?

How would one know until they have actually studied it, whether it is useful or not?

Peace

[lakkimakki]

ok i decided to post:) its free download so why not
here you go

http://www.kabbalahblog.info/wp-content/uploads/kabbalah-revealed.jpg

http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-08_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-1.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-08_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-2.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-08_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-3.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-08_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-4.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-08_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-5.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-08_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-6.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-08_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-7.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-09_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-8.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-09_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-9.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-09_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-10.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-09_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-11.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-10_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-12.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-10_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-13.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-10_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-14.wmv
http://files.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/eng_o_tk_2006-10_virtles_kabbalah-revealed-15.wmv

[thirdwave]

Why not post them on the thread?

have a little think.

Of course they have.

Can you explain what's so good about it and how you can use/apply this Kabbalistic knowledge for anything good?

What do you mean explain what's good about it... ??

that's a little imposing.. when I have explained why, but not everyone is the same anyway.

I believe the teachings make sense and compliment my beliefs and it is an interesting perspective on reality that one can take or leave...

anything that has been kept under ground for so many many years is of interest to me for starters..

I also like to study anything that Christianity and some other religious oppose.

[thirdwave]

How would one know until they have actually studied it, whether it is useful or not?

Peace

a more sensible comment.

[smoking oceanus]

To alcoholism? :D

So you guys are saying, no amount of study of esoterics, myticism, kabbalah, shamanism etc... could possibly free us from the clutches of the NWO's destined path of global spiritual conquest of man future?

I know this is the New Age party line but...

What if that is what they want you to think?

I mean even if i tried to wake others up, if we accept that the NWO are in control, we accept they are more likely to nuke the planet, then accept failure.

If we take it that we have somekind of innate power that allows us to shape the face of our reality, however, we atleast have some practical hope.

You seem to be suggesting all we can do is read more about how screwed we are and hope a miracle happens.

Peace

For me its different strokes for different folks

I dont really have any problem with anyone studying Kabbalah as a concept. I am however quite wary of its big players like Micheal Laitman. There are already people treating him like some 'saviour of truth' and that hes above question, yet he doesnt seem to display much resistence towards those attitutes, like many gurus.


When it comes to mystical traditions (Gnosticism, Sufisim, Zen etc), the only benefit i can find (for myself that is), is that they may provide the stepping stones that may lead towards something that transcends such labels thats tries to identify a fundemental something that unifies all of them/everything.

[baron von lotsov]

and if it cost money it would be a rip off right!? lol

Yes of course! Evil is evil, whichever way you look at it.

[baron von lotsov]

Why not post them on the thread?

Because it's so dodgy they have to do this shit in private now.

[eternal_spirit]

I also like to study anything that Christianity and some other religious oppose.

Christian Kabbalah/cabala/ might help LOL not a joke there is such a thing.

[smoking oceanus]

Good point, yes.

But the only alternative is the complete negation of all mysticism, self-enquiry and intuition as a source of information - where does that lead?



Well i guess the only thing i can think up for now is that ive got very R.A.W approach to things, meaning I try not to get too attached to certitudes.

There tends to be a lot of these certitudes in certain traditions. (maybe im not looking into it correctly)

So its not my cup of tea.

[thirdwave]

Yes of course! Evil is evil, whichever way you look at it.

unless its in the bible!... i get it now!

[thirdwave]

Christian Kabbalah/cabala/ might help LOL not a joke there is such a thing.

im sure there are many takes on it... you seem to have got enough amo to make it out to be some evil cult.... so i guess what ever you wish to believe.

[thetonic]

Good point, yes.

But the only alternative is the complete negation of all mysticism, self-enquiry and intuition as a source of information - where does that lead?

to the source:)

by the way self inquiry and intuition is not the kaballah, damn near the opposite in fact

[zero1]

to the source:)

I knew someone would say that...

[thetonic]

unless its in the bible!... i get it now!

lol the bible is nearly as vile creation as the books of kabbalistic teachings that spawned it

oh the irony...

[anonymousoneuk]

to the source:)

by the way self inquiry and intuition is not the kaballah, damn near the opposite in fact

Please tell me, how if one reads about and studies the kabbalah, practising their usual standard of self inquiry, with reason and intuition, the subject matter of the Kabbalah can somehow magical overule your good senses?

Why would you say that "self inquiry and intuition is not the kaballah, damn near the opposite in fact"?

Please explain.

Peace

[devotional soul]

The Hidden Agenda of the Kabbalah
(http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/madonna.htm)

"Most people do not Knowingly go towards Lucifer (who is appropriately called Satan). So those who end up worshipping Lucifer essentially have to be tricked into doing this. Theosophy spends a great deal of time with the Kabbalah (caballa/quabalah), because the books of the Kabbalah pretend to be about Jewish History. The premise of those who study the Kabbalah is that they are reading an ancient series of books, usually containing HIDDEN knowledge about the Bible, and about the Universe.

The problem is - that is not ACTUALLY what the Kabbalah is doing. The system of the Kabbalah claims to be based on Jewish Mysticism. But we have to look at that claim very closely. Some people who hear the term "Jewish Mysticism" think that this applies to Jewish Spirituality that is derived FROM the Old Testament, from the Bible. That is NOT true ! It is confusing because books About the Kabbalah are written in a style which is confusing, designed to lead readers to think that they are studying DEEP things, when the only event that is truly taking place - is that readers [of books about the Kabbalah] are being deceived.

The Kabbalah is based on a series of Visions delivered to a person in a Trance. The Kabbalah is based on a series of books, that are called THE ZOHAR. This is usually published in 4 to 6 volumes. It claims to be a revelation from the God of the Old Testament. The implications are immense ! According to those involved in the Kabbalah (and there are many), the Zohar is essentially A commentary on the Old Testament, but it was written by people who are clearly SPIRITUALISTS: A Spiritualist is a person who consults the dead, and who consults familiar spirits. In other words, the Zohar - which is what the Kabbalah is based on - is actually a work of the Occult.

The Zohar is not even OLD. That may be very disappointing to those who are Jewish. But the Zohar did NOT exist before the Middle Ages. It claims to be authentic, but it is not. There has never been any copy of the Zohar ever found, that is earlier than the Middle Ages. The Zohar is a counterfeit book, a book that was written in Medieval Europe, so that some people would FEEL closer to God. Only the way that the author of the Zohar was getting close "to God" is by going into a trance and writing things - without knowledge of what their hand was writing.

This is called "Automated Writing". This phenomena does not happen by itself. It is not a normal force of nature. It cannot happen - in fact - until a spiritual entity possesses the Body of a human being, takes over their body, and begins to write through them. The Bible has a term for that: IT is called "demonic possession"!

That is the true origin of the Zohar AND the Kabbalah.

The Authors of the Kabbalah are themselves Occult Authors. The Kabbalah was Not translated for English Speaking audiences until the late 1800s. And who translated it ? Were they Godly men who had a passion to save others, and show them that the real way to Eternal Life is by the shed blood, sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus Christ, who truly came to Earth to save those who accept to believe in Him? No, Not at all. Those who translated the Kabbalah were Occult authors who were steeped in Demonic Worship and Demonic books - They were writing them !

It is NOT hard to learn who the authors of the Kabbalah were. We know. They are mainly:

1. Eliphas Levi

2. MacGregor Mathers

3. H.P. Blavatsky

4. A.E. Waite

These are the main authors of books about the Kabbalah.

Eliphas Levi is the author who led the Occult Revival of the 1800s, that revived Satanism and Luciferianism. He wrote many books about Ritual Black Magic and how to have contact with Demonic Spirits...because he was seeking them.

MacGregor Mathers goes by several names. He is one of the Three founders of the Occult Society - known as the society of the Golden Dawn. This is a demonic society, not because we say so, but because THEY say so. This is one of the occult societies that covets demonic possession. Christians would consider their teachings to be Satanic. MacGregor Mathers is also one of the mentors of the Great Satanist Aleister Crowley. The first Translation of the Kabbalah into English was by MacGregor Mathers. (He lived in the U.K. for most of his life, where he recruited a lot of the elites into his occult Golden Dawn society).

H.P. Blavatsky is the founder of Theosophy. This is the view that Lucifer is truly an angel of light and he is the one who deserves our worship and allegiance. Blavatsky came from an occult family, and was already a Medium when she was a teenager. She sought out evil and the company of demonic spirits all of her life. She wrote many books about the occult. She believed that the Jews - through books like the Kabbalah - had stolen books of black magic that had previously come from the Chaldeans. She denied that Jesus was the Christ. She also denied that salvation could come through Jesus Christ. She remained extremely hostile to Jehovah/Yahweh - the God of the Jews.

A.E. Waite is an occult author. He played a large role in helping many occult authors in the early 1900s. He was involved in Many occult societies including the Golden Dawn.

All of these authors are devoted to the Kabbalah and other forms of the Occult. These authors deliberately sought to be involved with demonic spirits.


There is the one guy who was Satanic Mason dude from interview with an ex-vampire who started going to the mormon church (started by satanists) and able to get out of it by reading the Bible, so whatever floats your boat, just don't get tricked by the forces of evil.

[smoking oceanus]

to the source:)





The only thing this concept has led me to is towards the idea that, the idea of the/a source is just another construct of the mind :p

[eternal_spirit]

to the source:)

by the way self inquiry and intuition is not the kaballah, damn near the opposite in fact

Agreed it can only take you further away from your true self.
It's a dogmatic /ritualistic/belief system designed by Elite Priesthoods.

[elirien]

There is the one guy who was Satanic Mason dude from interview with an ex-vampire who started going to the mormon church (started by satanists) and able to get out of it by reading the Bible, so whatever floats your boat, just don't get tricked by the forces of evil.

That's Bill Schnoebelen. http://www.withoneaccord.org/

[eternal_spirit]

Originally Posted by eternal_spirit http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=498134#post498134)


Can you explain what's so good about it and how you can use/apply this Kabbalistic knowledge for anything good?

quote:anonymousoneuk

How would one know until they have actually studied it, whether it is useful or not?



Peace


Maybe someone here who has can explain and answer the questions. I think there's going to be many disappointed people when they realise they won't gain what they want from it.

Some seem to see it as divine and will contain answers and enlightenment etc, I need some proof. Not one person has ever explained or shown any proof yet.

[thirdwave]

lol the bible is nearly as vile creation as the books of kabbalistic teachings that spawned it

oh the irony...

the difference is the kabbalah is not about offering your self to it... its about understanding it, taking it or leaving it.... there is no ultimatum..

the only thing that's vile is peoples desire to prevent others from free choice... somthing the bible does support and you it appears..but funny enough the kebbalah does.

the thing is stuff like the kebbalah is not for everyone anyway.... look at some of the idiots here, would they really benefit from such knowledge?.. that's probably how we got into the mess we are in...

its amazing how many people are clueless to the word Freedom, yet they like to come across like they are fighting for it.

[3stepsahead]

studying it cant harm too much..i hope. not that ill ever will myself. :D

there are limitless possibilities for what is the truth. even lies have truth in them.

so if you hate kabbala,researching it gives you a real opinion about it.


i guess its important to not let others views overshadow your own. huh.

[3stepsahead]

Originally Posted by eternal_spirit http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=498134#post498134)


Can you explain what's so good about it and how you can use/apply this Kabbalistic knowledge for anything good?

quote:anonymousoneuk

How would one know until they have actually studied it, whether it is useful or not?



Peace


Maybe someone here who has can explain and answer the questions. I think there's going to be many disappointed people when they realise they won't gain what they want from it.

Some seem to see it as divine and will contain answers and enlightenment etc, I need some proof. Not one person has ever explained or shown any proof yet.


dualism, sunworship or gaia are some things id rather let control my life than some written mumble.
interesting to evaluate other suff wether its good or bad though..

[thirdwave]

studying it cant harm too much..i hope. not that ill ever will myself. :D

there are limitless possibilities for what is the truth. even lies have truth in them.

so if you hate kabbala,researching it gives you a real opinion about it.


i guess its important to not let others views overshadow your own. huh.

the reason Christians dont like people to research it is because it might "brainwash" them lol

in other words it might make sense to them... there for, they are brainwashed... so its their job to warn us from reading stuff that makes sen...i mean brainwashes us.

[tejas]

You want some proof? that it's used im mind control...
maybe nothing you haven't allready read and not as if you wanna become some Svengali hypnotist.

It's as difficult to prove Kabblah can be used and explained by anyone I've seen try here for good as it is trying to explain how it's used in mind control.

Easy on the pies missy, us pie eaters (People from Wigan) have enough to go around :p

everything is mind control,
every thought-belief-system

where can you turn when you want some real spiritual insight?
fuck knows

[3stepsahead]

well if they judge you they arent christians.

err i duno what that means.:cool:

i got a lot of impulses from reading the bible (dont worry only a few pages )
and its the same with anything else we read.

everything will influence us wether we like it or not, in some way or another.

so .. basically life itself is mind controlling.

sorry for being such a rambling lunatic. :D

[thirdwave]

not sure what to make of this guy, but he is does get some of the ideas across...


listen from 16.10

http://video.google.com/videosearch?emb=0&aq=f&q=Tony+Kosinec%2C+kabbalah#emb=0&aq=f&q=Tony%20Kosinec%2C%20kabbalah&start=0

[3stepsahead]

not sure what to make of this guy, but he is does get some of the ideas across...


listen from 16.10

http://video.google.com/videosearch?emb=0&aq=f&q=Tony+Kosinec%2C+kabbalah#emb=0&aq=f&q=Tony%20Kosinec%2C%20kabbalah&start=0

seems like the ultimate religion.

so why would we want more of those?

[thirdwave]

seems like the ultimate religion.

so why would we want more of those?

I must say the way this guy is saying it sometimes it does sound like it ..but its not a religion in comparison to Christianity, Islam Judaism...

it is closer to what those religious probably started out to be many years ago...

it is a way of looking at reality ... like a map to try and improve your experiences... exercises...

it has nothing to do with worshipping a god, trusting in a god, and submitting your self to it... or about people getting in the shit if you do not follow what it says... you can be how you like ..., and if you want to try and use it you can... if not, then you don't...

I have never really god deeply into it but I have read it, and it is about self empowerment, and does not teach you to reach outside of your self for help but to reach inwards.

but of course it could quite easily be used by religious people, or turned into a religion... and has been by some..

my only thing that I hate about religion is how it teaches people to place their souls in the hands of another... and these are the people who talk to you about brainwashing and about being tricked!?

I guess you could look at any spiritual belief as religion... but i would not dream of viewing spiritual belief as something we don't need!

When I think of religion I think of a God worship.... a belief structure based on the views and judgement of one god.

[3stepsahead]

i think that made sense

but beyond that, when the puzzle is complete, then what.
i dont think the puppet masters will let evryone find a true enlightenment like that unless themselves control it.
im such a pessimist :)

so were back to finding our own paths again, wich seems to be a resonable way of going forward.

[anonymousoneuk]

Can anyone give me one good reason to belief that studying kabbalah will have negative consequences and clearly outline what these negative consequences would be and how they come about?

I would appreciate your opinion if you can do this.

However, if you cannot do this and merely don't want to respect people right to freedom of intellectual spiritual exploration, then take your head out of your arse and work on supressing your egoic nature.

I very much dislike people who attempt to prevent others from exploring things because they feel that there is no importance to it and can't stand the fact others may be able to see importance in something they don't.

This is no better than sheeple mentality, they will desperately try to keep you from believing differently from them, even if they have no rational logical basis for their beliefs.

Peace

[anonymousoneuk]

i think that made sense

but beyond that, when the puzzle is complete, then what.
i dont think the puppet masters will let evryone find a true enlightenment like that unless themselves control it.
im such a pessimist :)

so were back to finding our own paths again, wich seems to be a resonable way of going forward.

This was my second post in this thread:

"That's good, i wasn't expecting it to be too Judaic, from my readings it seems that Kabbalah has under gone abit of a renaissonce, many rabbi's having broken with traditional Judaic interpretation in order to make it more accessable to the common individual.

I also plan to study Hermetic Qabalah, for any gleanings of knowledge.

I'm naturally not looking for a relegion, just truth that might be contained in eosteric or relegious teachings."

Please explain to me, how a individual cannot be on their "own path"?

Even a Fundamentalist Christian is on their own spiritual path.

I could read the Bible , the Koran and the Zohar, 20 times and i'd probably be better off for it.

Information is not good or bad, it's what you make of information that matters.

If someone reads a "relegious" text they no more have to attach that to their identities than the morning newspaper.

If someone reads newspapers they don't become Newspaperist, even if they call themself a Newspaperist, they are still an individual, they are just an individual who likes to attach generalised identities to themself.

It's the same with people who believe what is written in the bible, they may call themselves Christians, but they are still individuals.

I am not a personality who likes to attach generalised definition to myself, i am what i am and what i read makes no difference to that, i will read about the Kabbalah, Hermetic Qabalah, Budhism, Taoism, Gnosticism, but these are just words representing bodies of information, what ideas i extract from this information is up to my individualised interpretation.

Peace

[thirdwave]

i think that made sense

but beyond that, when the puzzle is complete, then what.
i dont think the puppet masters will let evryone find a true enlightenment like that unless themselves control it.
im such a pessimist :)

so were back to finding our own paths again, wich seems to be a resonable way of going forward.

maybe we dont come here to find completion, maybe that's where we come from... we come here to expand.... which is why we feel so lost.... we are the leading edge....

we will find heaven when we realise its worth creating.

The Kebbalah view things as we have a desire ... and they are just replaced... never fulfilled... until we connect to our original source again..

[celtic isis]

everything is mind control,
every thought-belief-system

where can you turn when you want some real spiritual insight?
fuck knows

totally agree..i think you can turn to yourself, trust yourself, we all have this little gage inside us that tells us oh ok, that's not so good and we can push it away... :)

anyway jewish people ( :)) stole the kabbalah it's not THEIRS. :)

[celtic isis]

we will find heaven when we realise its worth creating.

The Kebbalah view things as we have a desire ... and they are just replaced... never fulfilled... until we connect to our original source again..

:) waveman, darn it, getn too wise now!

[celtic isis]

Some seem to see it as divine and will contain answers and enlightenment etc, I need some proof. Not one person has ever explained or shown any proof yet.

fook i lost the part of your quote i wanted there! proo of what? It's just thoughts, ideas, that shape eventually your world..

yeah but if you're already fulfilled, and just looking to tie up some lose ends, surely it's an avenue to explore??

Reading Oswald Wirth i see nothing brainwashing in it, in regards to what he explains about kabbalah...so why should this course in kabbalah be any different in its principles?

we can still use our judgements people lol