Masons and cubs/scouts????

[greyeagle]

Hi all,
just wondering,after doing a search,I could not find any concrete evidence of a cub/scout/mason connection?
Today I got a newsletter from my sons cub group and they mentioned 33 badges and my ears popped up(degrees),as could that be just coincidence.
Is there anyone out there that could clear this up for me please?
Cheers

[peter griffin]

hi all,
just wondering,after doing a search,i could not find any concrete evidence of a cub/scout/mason connection?
Today i got a newsletter from my sons cub group and they mentioned 33 badges and my ears popped up(degrees),as could that be just coincidence.
Is there anyone out there that could clear this up for me please?
Cheers


very interesting..
Keep us informed if you continue looking into this

[kevincent]

ha, thats weird

[deafbred]

Hi all,
just wondering,after doing a search,I could not find any concrete evidence of a cub/scout/mason connection?
Today I got a newsletter from my sons cub group and they mentioned 33 badges and my ears popped up(degrees),as could that be just coincidence.
Is there anyone out there that could clear this up for me please?
Cheers

just yesterday, drove past a cub/boy scout camp, right down the street
I thought of this http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30348

[greyeagle]

Only thing that Ive come up with is this
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/03/21/the-boy-scout-freemason-connection/
No such thing as coincidence,I think they have their grubby fingers in all pies,especially getting them young,nasty buggers.

[agneau]

Well, gosh! 33 badges and 33 degrees, eh? Perhaps, you ought to worry about other instances of 33:
• On most occasions, the traditional number of racers in the Indianapolis 500
• The code for international direct-dial phone calls to France
• A normal human spine has 33 vertebrae when the bones that form the coccyx are counted individually
• The number printed on all Rolling Rock beer labels
• '33'(three-three) is a Nigerian produced brand of beer.
It would seem, then, given that there are no such thing as coincidences, we (the Masons) must also be keen to get our claws into drunken, French race-drivers with back-bones…..

Be afraid…

[jacob sladder]

There are quite a few Lodges in England with Scouting connections; and they even have their own association.
Not surprising really as the ethos of Scouting and Freemasonry are very similar:
A force for good in society.

JS.

[graflok]

For starters, look here (http://www.google.com/search?q=boy+scouts+freemasonry&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a).

[deafbred]

For starters, look here (http://www.google.com/search?q=boy+scouts+freemasonry&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a).

lol

[lizard_monkey]

Hi all,
just wondering,after doing a search,I could not find any concrete evidence of a cub/scout/mason connection?
Today I got a newsletter from my sons cub group and they mentioned 33 badges and my ears popped up(degrees),as could that be just coincidence.
Is there anyone out there that could clear this up for me please?
Cheers

Funny you should ask such a strange thing, but I was thinking this a while back. I think you could be right, but it might go deeper than the masons, and more to the roots of Knights Templar, for if you make a fire you get a badges for your ''chivalry'' in beaver's. Beavers being the stepping stone before Scouts in England. Plus I remeber we had to call are term leaders names from the Jungle Book......again tho cub/scouts are how you look at it. Does it bring childern together in a good or bad way? If as a scout you was taught to survive in the wild with a machine gun I could under stand your worry.......:p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdXywqtgdBw

[thelonious]

The founders of Boy Scouts of America were Masons.

The Boy Scouts aren't "Masonic", but they have the same basic principles: belief in a supreme Being without regard to individual religions, self-development, charity work, etc.

[barney_rubble]

The founders of Boy Scouts of America were Masons.

The Boy Scouts aren't "Masonic", but they have the same basic principles: belief in a supreme Being without regard to individual religions, self-development, charity work, etc.



And World Domination! :eek:

Sorry I couldn't resist.:D

[phoilhatloonie]

• A normal human spine has 33 vertebrae when the bones that form the coccyx are counted individually

Dear god! This is proof that we're all genetic experiments of the alien/Illuminati connection!

We're all in on it!

[tracker]

well it would surprise me very much if the masons or illuminate were not involved with scouts and cubs , :confused:
after all , having so many children in these clubs you'd think they would be all over it .:D

[kallista]

The Boys Brigade too.

[cognizant]

The Masons have youth groups like DeMolay for boys and Rainbow Girls & Jobs Daughters for girls. I am partial to Rainbow :D

And yes, Bill Clinton was a DeMolay. And yes, they took his picture down at the DeMolay headquarters. And yes, modern DeMolays do not honor him a Past Master Councilor.

As far as 33 badges go, I doubt there is a correlation.

[jacob sladder]

The Masons have youth groups like DeMolay for boys and Rainbow Girls & Jobs Daughters for girls.

Only in America! Not here in the U.K......

JS.

[barney_rubble]

The Masons have youth groups like DeMolay for boys and Rainbow Girls & Jobs Daughters for girls.

Only in America! Not here in the U.K......

JS.


We have them here in Canada too. Although they are not doing too well in my area. I don't feel like driving 1.5 hours each way to bring my kids to a meeting.

[lizard_monkey]

I don't feel like driving 1.5 hours each way to bring my kids to a meeting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBivPws7OqE

[lucky1965]

And World Domination! :eek:

Sorry I couldn't resist.:D

you just HAD to give away our secret! quickly! call for a super-secret 33rd degree meeting!

[kadosh]

Daniel Carter Beard was the founder Boy Scouts of America in 1910. - http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/beard_d/beard_d.html

However, it was some year later that Beard became a Mason when in 1917 he became a member of Mariners' Lodge No. 67, New York.

On July 16, 1915, two Scouters named E. Urner Goodman and Carroll A. Edson founded the Order of the Arrow at Treasure Island, the summer camp of the Philadelphia Council. Edson was a 32° Scottish Rite Mason; Goodman only became a Mason after the OA was founded but also eventually attained the 32°. The writing of the ritual, however, was entrusted to another, unknown 32° Mason. (Interestingly enough, the Masonic affiliation of its founders is omitted from the official OA history. There is, in fact, not one single reference to Freemasonry throughout the book.

[grandsecretary]

There are quite a few Lodges in England with Scouting connections; and they even have their own association.
Not surprising really as the ethos of Scouting and Freemasonry are very similar:
A force for good in society.

JS.

Robert Baden-Powell the founder of the British Scout Movement was a close friend of Rudyard Kipling. When he was planning the Boy Scout Movement he discussed it with Kipling and Kipling suggested that he organised it on Masonic lines with a distinctive uniform, oath of allegiance, signs, tokens, and words. (SOURCE: John Webb, author of Kipling The Man and Mason)

[marpat]

Hi all,
just wondering,after doing a search,I could not find any concrete evidence of a cub/scout/mason connection?
Today I got a newsletter from my sons cub group and they mentioned 33 badges and my ears popped up(degrees),as could that be just coincidence.
Is there anyone out there that could clear this up for me please?
Cheers

Dont you think there are many other numbers associated with freemasonry rather than just 33? I dont get what the obsession is with 33 when there are so many other numerical figures.

[moon monkey]

Hi all,
just wondering,after doing a search,I could not find any concrete evidence of a cub/scout/mason connection?
Today I got a newsletter from my sons cub group and they mentioned 33 badges and my ears popped up(degrees),as could that be just coincidence.
Is there anyone out there that could clear this up for me please?
Cheers

Oh no. NOT 33 !

Save us it's the evil number 33. It's like Sesame Street for imbeciles on here at times.