Reptilians for real???

[daman]

David is a good and pleasant fellow, but Do you actually believe that they (Reptilians) exist ? If so what proof, except the usual funny left eye shape-lifting theory???

anyone ???,

:eek: :confused: :cool:

[trinity1]

It is my current belief that reptilians do not exist. Or rather, they probably do, in the vast depths of the universe but that they are not currently populating our little planet and inhabiting human beings. I am open to debate on that point, however.

In my opinon, the reptilian symbolism we see here, there and everywhere around the world is in celebration of the reptilian complex, the part of our brain which deals with ritualistic and instinctive behaviours, survival, dominance, mating, the fight or flight mechanism. It is also concerned with the human emotions of love, hate, fear and lust. (I must point out here that the human emotion of "love" has precious little to do with unconditional love. What passes for "love" amongst most humans is usually one ego attempting to possess another.)

It is because of these "reptilian" attributes (fear) that it is possible to "control" us. Of course, it's actually us that's controlling us by subscribing to these reptilian traits, reptilians are just the scapegoat. We've let ego dominate to the point of being almost totally spiritually dead.

The fact that we try to convince ourselves that any "evil doing" in the world is done by "reptilians from the lower astral" is just another sign of how egotistical we are, trying to offload blame to someone or something else.

[jinjo5]

David is a good and pleasant fellow, but Do you actually believe that they (Reptilians) exist ? If so what proof, except the usual funny left eye shape-lifting theory???

anyone ???,

:eek: :confused: :cool:

I think David's theories,evidence and research etc can stand up on its merit without the for need for the reptilian side of it.Or is the reptilian part of it integral to the whole thing? Either way i dont dismiss the reptile theory out of hand......im open minded about absolutely everything,there are no closed doors in my mind.

[karenmoore1979]

I too have a bit of confusion when it comes to the "reptilian thing". I love David's work over all and agree with almost all of what he says but I just don't "get" the reptile thing. I guess part of me needs a little more evidence or something - does anyone else feel like that? Or can anyone point me in the direction of where I might find out more about the reptilian agenda?

[tinmenace]

David is a good and pleasant fellow, but Do you actually believe that they (Reptilians) exist ? If so what proof, except the usual funny left eye shape-lifting theory???

anyone ???,

:eek: :confused: :cool:


Ok, so clearly you've never read any of his books or done any research for yourself. You want to be spoon fed the information. That's very robotic, y'know? Be programmed with info....have someone else convince you of something.

That's not how it works. It's up to YOU to research it for yourself and then, and only then, can you confirm it or debunk it for yourself. Because, only when you've done the work yourself will you be truly convinced.

The question is not can it be proven. Instead it should be "Can it be disproven?". I think you will find with all the loose ends, it's impossible to disprove it.

Get that grey matter working! :cool:

[thirdwave]

I believe they exist %100, weather they are spread among the royal family and so on I am not sure...

but the reason people cant get their head around it is that there perception on reality is very limited... the people that cant comprehend it and the people that would not touch acid with a barge pole and if they did would probebly spend 7 hours is a state of shock and never talk about it again....

because when you do stuff like that you can see how much more there is to "matter" than what our 3 dimensional eyes can see...

i do not think its a case of seeing a 3 dimensional image elastically move and change colour into another being.... the 3 dimensional image stays the same... but your perception shifts.... your state of mind, meaning you see more.... your mind somehow receives more data.. and you can see more dimensions to that face..that person.... and the image no longer looks human as you have always seen it before....

but the human mind is very powerful and you could see something like that and if you did not want to you could not even register it, humans can be extremely ignorant...


regarding evidence.... We know that over the years the earth has been dominated by reptilian animals ...we know that our governments have for as long as we can see had reptilian imagery... and every single religion speaks of the reptilian side.... especially the ones that have been repressed over the years like many African tribes and the hoppie Indians...

so there is enough facts to show us that there is a huge blank space left with this reptilian thing to sit.

[sgt rock]

I believe they exist %100, weather they are spread among the royal family and so on I am not sure...

but the reason people cant get their head around it is that there perception on reality is very limited... the people that cant comprehend it and the people that would not touch acid with a barge pole and if they did would probebly spend 7 hours is a state of shock and never talk about it again....

because when you do stuff like that you can see how much more there is to "matter" than what our 3 dimensional eyes can see...

i do not think its a case of seeing a 3 dimensional image elastically move and change colour into another being.... the 3 dimensional image stays the same... but your perception shifts.... your state of mind, meaning you see more.... your mind somehow receives more data.. and you can see more dimensions to that face..that person.... and the image no longer looks human as you have always seen it before....

but the human mind is very powerful and you could see something like that and if you did not want to you could not even register it, humans can be extremely ignorant...


regarding evidence.... We know that over the years the earth has been dominated by reptilian animals ...we know that our governments have for as long as we can see had reptilian imagery... and every single religion speaks of the reptilian side.... especially the ones that have been repressed over the years like many African tribes and the hoppie Indians...

so there is enough facts to show us that there is a huge blank space left with this reptilian thing to sit.


Have you read the work of Sir Arthur Ponsonby? He had little to say about reptiles, but much to express in regard to Britain's inolvement in the First World War. If "reptiles" existed I'm sure Sir Arthur would have sniffed them out.

It's a damned shame he was a traitor to his country and he should have been flogged for his cowardice.

Eat roast beef.

[thirdwave]

Have you read the work of Sir Arthur Ponsonby? He had little to say about reptiles, but much to express in regard to Britain's inolvement in the First World War. If "reptiles" existed I'm sure Sir Arthur would have sniffed them out.

It's a damned shame he was a traitor to his country and he should have been flogged for his cowardice.

Eat roast beef.

Hi, I have not seen any of Ponsonbys stuff...

many many people would not dream of admitting to them selfs that they saw something let alone others....

i one had a row with a guy who refused to think UFOs had any relevance and were not real....

when i told him if he was acusing me of being a lier as i have seen them... he asked me what i saw ...so i told him...

he said... "so what, I have seen things that look strange but it does not mean they are UFOs"

i now do not argue with these people anymore as i understand that anyone know who does not believe in them is more a case of they WONT believe in them...

much the same with the reps... im sure many have seen more than they would be happy to admit.. especially those in the stage light.

I would have loved to had a good deep chat with Princess Diana.

i have not see a "shape shift" as such although I have had reptilian like visions looking at people while on acid... I do know somone who claims to have seen a shape shift %100

[unicorn]

Words of wisdom... 'there are no closed doors in my mind.' - love it! As consciousness & higher truths are more easily accessbile, can any of us really understand the whole story, fully?

One of the greatest sources of information on the replite theory that I highly recommend Michael Tsarion's website, on his webstream page he has free talks videoed, where he explains how religion has it all there if you know how to read between the words of torro dung. (www.) taroscopes.com

Also Laurence Gardener's 'Genesis of the Grail Kings' is an excellent introduction into the Sumerian texts, that predate most other known religions (as far as I know...:confused: ) & explains how beings from other planets genetically made us. Threads from this religion can easily be seen in Egyptian stories & also in Christian, esp. the old testament. Tsarion's webstream videos are well worth sitting in for, so get cosy & enjoy a late night as I couldn't turn of this resonating info... (also great is his 'the subversive use of sacred symbology in the media' videos)

Patricia Cori's books are also HIGHLY informative on how the reptiles came to be here, & answers how they are desperately trying to get out of here by making slaves of us to work our little butts off so that they can have all this technology to use in space. She has a trilogy of books, starting with 'A Cosmos of Soul'. Highly recommended.

Regards are reptiles real? The more I read / find out / tune in, the more it all seems to fit in as being true. Could any human be so devoid of any ability to love, with the blatant intent to destroy this planet? Only if they have been deliberately manipulated (HAARP, vaccinations, TETRA, TV, media...) to serve these beings. I understand that it could be ego blaming others, but you don't need to include reptiles to blame!! We are all in this together!

An author friend of mine (on the illuminati history, with their present plan for total destruction on man... see focusonfacts.com) commented on David's documentary on channel 5 & said what a shame the he talked about the reptiles as it will discredit his work for many. Torro Dung... the more people that hear the ultimate truth, the quicker we can heal this whole rule of evil. With thanks to this rule of evil, for helping to awaken the light within all of us. Ultimately there is no blame towards the reptiles, as it is us who is allowing this. What more will it take to wake people up??!

Blessings

[21_12_2012]

The question is not can it be proven. Instead it should be "Can it be disproven?". I think you will find with all the loose ends, it's impossible to disprove it.

Get that grey matter working! :cool:

Couldn't have put it better myself....

[21_12_2012]

For anyone who thinks that the reptilian theory is ridiculous, read and watch the following before making a judgement:-

The Reptilian Agenda - video - Credo Mutwa & David Icke
Revelations Of A Mother Goddess - Video - Arizona Wilder & David Icke
Deceived No More - Arizona Wilder - video
Trance-Formation of America - Book and Video - Cathy O Brien

Then, research into all major cultures' references to serpent gods, snake gods, dragons and 'children of the python' - related material.

Then check this webpage out:- http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/reptilian_pact.htm

Then consider we were once ruled by dinosaurs for thousands of years.

Then ask yourself :- "is it really so ridiculous to think that reptilian entities from another dimension (which we cannot see) are still ruling our world today?"

You'll find the answer is no...it isn't ridiculous at all.

[thoth]

Words of wisdom... 'there are no closed doors in my mind.' - love it! As consciousness & higher truths are more easily accessbile, can any of us really understand the whole story, fully?

One of the greatest sources of information on the replite theory that I highly recommend Michael Tsarion's website, on his webstream page he has free talks videoed, where he explains how religion has it all there if you know how to read between the words of torro dung. (www.) taroscopes.com

Also Laurence Gardener's 'Genesis of the Grail Kings' is an excellent introduction into the Sumerian texts, that predate most other known religions (as far as I know...:confused: ) & explains how beings from other planets genetically made us. Threads from this religion can easily be seen in Egyptian stories & also in Christian, esp. the old testament. Tsarion's webstream videos are well worth sitting in for, so get cosy & enjoy a late night as I couldn't turn of this resonating info... (also great is his 'the subversive use of sacred symbology in the media' videos)

Patricia Cori's books are also HIGHLY informative on how the reptiles came to be here, & answers how they are desperately trying to get out of here by making slaves of us to work our little butts off so that they can have all this technology to use in space. She has a trilogy of books, starting with 'A Cosmos of Soul'. Highly recommended.

Regards are reptiles real? The more I read / find out / tune in, the more it all seems to fit in as being true. Could any human be so devoid of any ability to love, with the blatant intent to destroy this planet? Only if they have been deliberately manipulated (HAARP, vaccinations, TETRA, TV, media...) to serve these beings. I understand that it could be ego blaming others, but you don't need to include reptiles to blame!! We are all in this together!

An author friend of mine (on the illuminati history, with their present plan for total destruction on man... see focusonfacts.com) commented on David's documentary on channel 5 & said what a shame the he talked about the reptiles as it will discredit his work for many. Torro Dung... the more people that hear the ultimate truth, the quicker we can heal this whole rule of evil. With thanks to this rule of evil, for helping to awaken the light within all of us. Ultimately there is no blame towards the reptiles, as it is us who is allowing this. What more will it take to wake people up??!

Blessings


Cool avatar by the way. I love looking at the mandle brot sets.

[naturesdaughter]

I have had some good luck recently in getting the discussion going on reptiles/ufo's by showing people clips of the NASA Tether incident. There's a good clip of it on youtube that comes from a documentary br David Sereda. Fabulous and it's a real shocker in that the footage comes straight from NASA.;)

[daman]

Ok, so clearly you've never read any of his books or done any research for yourself. You want to be spoon fed the information. That's very robotic, y'know? Be programmed with info....have someone else convince you of something.

That's not how it works. It's up to YOU to research it for yourself and then, and only then, can you confirm it or debunk it for yourself. Because, only when you've done the work yourself will you be truly convinced.

The question is not can it be proven. Instead it should be "Can it be disproven?". I think you will find with all the loose ends, it's impossible to disprove it.

Get that grey matter working! :cool:

Lol a closed minded yankee. Nice conclusions...

Do you know me ???

:eek:

Before telling me what to do mind your own business.

Now refrain from posting in my thread, and read the guidelines buddy.

[fryertuck]

for weallllzzzzzzz :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[houdini]

For anyone who thinks that the reptilian theory is ridiculous, read and watch the following before making a judgement:-

The Reptilian Agenda - video - Credo Mutwa & David Icke
Revelations Of A Mother Goddess - Video - Arizona Wilder & David Icke
Deceived No More - Arizona Wilder - video
Trance-Formation of America - Book and Video - Cathy O Brien

Then, research into all major cultures' references to serpent gods, snake gods, dragons and 'children of the python' - related material.

Then check this webpage out:- http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/reptilian_pact.htm

Then consider we were once ruled by dinosaurs for thousands of years.

Then ask yourself :- "is it really so ridiculous to think that reptilian entities from another dimension (which we cannot see) are still ruling our world today?"

You'll find the answer is no...it isn't ridiculous at all.

i'll make a judgement then.
it is ridiculous.....you could sit anyone down in front of a video and have them put under hypnosis or lie about reptiles, or think that the books i have on the subject are all true because they say so, or because a small african tells me so.
but it must be right, its in all the books that are out there and credo says it is

[rambleblatt]

Then ask yourself :- "is it really so ridiculous to think that reptilian entities from another dimension (which we cannot see) are still ruling our world today?"


Why do they have to be from another dimension?

[sean~infinte]

the reason why people believe in the reps is
becuase the hole thing is like a puzzle ancients mkultra blah blah and you put them together and it does make sense

if you take away the reptilian agenda you are left with humans tht dont care about rapeing children who are for no reason at all ending the world and dragging this on

so again the reptilian part in all tht is tht they are using us for fear for there interdimension and they have no consience therfore they can do stuf to children and inocent people
i myself dont belive they exist but dont discredit it im fairly open minded on the matter

but i do think its just as bad or limiting to believe in the reps as it is to descredit them as there is no hard proof since to believe them would be to be a lil gullable but to descredit it would be foolish

but whether they exist or not realy doesnt matter breaking out of this 5 sense pain in the arse matrix reality is more important

[amar7]

imo the reptilian thing is not to be taken literally. it is a synonym for something else which is shoking but doesnt sound like sience fiction..
just do some good research and use ur logical thinking and then you might get an understanding.
when i first heard the reptilian thing from icke first i thought he was paranoid or crazy but the more i listened to him the more i understood that it wasnt the case.
so i decided to do some own research and i am almost sure that he just uses this term as a hint or clue for something else

[21_12_2012]

i'll make a judgement then.
it is ridiculous.....you could sit anyone down in front of a video and have them put under hypnosis or lie about reptiles, or think that the books i have on the subject are all true because they say so, or because a small african tells me so.
but it must be right, its in all the books that are out there and credo says it is

Houdini..i will not respond to your ridiculous posts.

[21_12_2012]

Why do they have to be from another dimension?

They don't, but if they were primarily from our dimension, more sightings and more evidence would be prevelant.

I know for 100% fact that 'spirits' exist, and in another dimension. I have personal experience of this.
Anything we cannot detect with our 5 senses is another dimension...spirits exist there...also spirits possess people, that is also known fact....exorcists are being performed daily all around the world because of this fact.
So, the 'reptilians from another dimension' theory makes perfect sense....so does the 'satanic rituals are performed to allow for possession and communication with these entities" theory....
The illuminati don't perform satanic rituals for nothing..they don't sacrifice people/children for nothing...
All makes sense to me anyway...

[21_12_2012]

imo the reptilian thing is not to be taken literally. it is a synonym for something else which is shoking but doesnt sound like sience fiction..
just do some good research and use ur logical thinking and then you might get an understanding.
when i first heard the reptilian thing from icke first i thought he was paranoid or crazy but the more i listened to him the more i understood that it wasnt the case.
so i decided to do some own research and i am almost sure that he just uses this term as a hint or clue for something else

Think about this then:-
Imagine you are David Icke (or another researcher)..
You present information to people, most of it proveable....you get lots of interest...lots of people wake up and start to realise what you're saying....
Do you attempt purposely to mess-up the good work you have done with the proveable research by (as you say) presenting reptilians as a hint or clue for something else?
What would that do for you reputation/the people you are trying to help and pass information on to?
It just doesn't make sense....David Icke presents information,...it's as simple as that..he investigates....he interviews....he digs deep...and he presents exactly what he finds.....why would he do anything else?

If i was David Icke, and i wanted to (as you say) give a hint or a clue to something, the LAST THING ON EARTH i would make up a story about...is REPTILIANS...

[houdini]

everything you just said is something someone else told you.
with the exception of the 100% know that spirits exist in other dimensions quote.
and seeing as you have nothing to compare that to then thats doubtful too.
and seeing as a thought and image and song and picture can be beamed into your head form a device that was demonstrated on Canadian tv, then id be a little worried about what you believe to be what you consider 'real'.
no i havent sorted other dimensions and looked, have you?, bring back some proof did we?.ohhh just a MEMORY huh?.


have it all sorted do we amar7?
if you have it all sorted out then care to elaborate???.

[rambleblatt]

They don't, but if they were primarily from our dimension, more sightings and more evidence would be prevelant.

I know for 100% fact that 'spirits' exist, and in another dimension. I have personal experience of this.
Anything we cannot detect with our 5 senses is another dimension...spirits exist there...also spirits possess people, that is also known fact....exorcists are being performed daily all around the world because of this fact.
So, the 'reptilians from another dimension' theory makes perfect sense....so does the 'satanic rituals are performed to allow for possession and communication with these entities" theory....
The illuminati don't perform satanic rituals for nothing..they don't sacrifice people/children for nothing...
All makes sense to me anyway...

Hey - I am not saying you are just a guy with a fevered imagination. I never accused you of anything, I am just asking. To state as 100% fact that spirits exist, so I assume you saw them. The other things you mention you have been told by someone else. This is a real problem here, cos you are parroting as fact what others have told you or something you imagined in your head? This is a dilemma. because if I am to believe you - which I must do to establish this even as a theory, I don't see you using much good thought here - I see you jumping onto 'ideas' and 'imagination' and claiming them to be fact, which they are not. These things could just as easily be broadcast into your head by HAARP, through all our language, culture, history. religion, faith, magic etc - because you are a 'sensitive' person, a psychic. This is a really big issue here, because without a belief in it, you go nowhere, and when you do collapse onto the belief, what does it matter? You believe it and still nothing happens.

So I congratulate you on just accepting something as the 'truth' because you have 'decided' that's the answer. Fantastic, now what? Do you have to be 'transformed' by some all powerful 'universe/alien/god/vibrational energy...ad infinitum" to escape, what else could you 'hope' for? But if it is technology and knowledge and everything we know injected into us by everything we experience, but only made by diabolical/evil/nasty/rich/psychopathic and intelligent beings, but just human beings that have to wipe their bums and wear trousers, what then?

A yellow brick road is a path that leads somewhere - is it the wizard with all his magical power, or an old sad man behind a curtain twiddling knobs?

[tinmenace]

Lol a closed minded yankee. Nice conclusions...

Do you know me ???

:eek:

Before telling me what to do mind your own business.

Now refrain from posting in my thread, and read the guidelines buddy.


Do I know you? Probably. You sound like the rest of the herd.

But best of all, I like your lame attempt at diversion. So, all you want to do is argue about something you know nothing about, eh?

That's pretty typical AND predictable. Ain't nuttin' special 'bout you, Buddy.

[21_12_2012]

Hey - I am not saying you are just a guy with a fevered imagination. I never accused you of anything, I am just asking. To state as 100% fact that spirits exist, so I assume you saw them. The other things you mention you have been told by someone else. This is a real problem here, cos you are parroting as fact what others have told you or something you imagined in your head? This is a dilemma. because if I am to believe you - which I must do to establish this even as a theory, I don't see you using much good thought here - I see you jumping onto 'ideas' and 'imagination' and claiming them to be fact, which they are not. These things could just as easily be broadcast into your head by HAARP, through all our language, culture, history. religion, faith, magic etc - because you are a 'sensitive' person, a psychic. This is a really big issue here, because without a belief in it, you go nowhere, and when you do collapse onto the belief, what does it matter? You believe it and still nothing happens.

So I congratulate you on just accepting something as the 'truth' because you have 'decided' that's the answer. Fantastic, now what? Do you have to be 'transformed' by some all powerful 'universe/alien/god/vibrational energy...ad infinitum" to escape, what else could you 'hope' for? But if it is technology and knowledge and everything we know injected into us by everything we experience, but only made by diabolical/evil/nasty/rich/psychopathic and intelligent beings, but just human beings that have to wipe their bums and wear trousers, what then?

A yellow brick road is a path that leads somewhere - is it the wizard with all his magical power, or an old sad man behind a curtain twiddling knobs?

To state as 100% fact that spirits exist, so I assume you saw them. Yes...twice...one with communication...with facts that only that spirit would have known in their physical life.

The other things you mention you have been told by someone else. This is a real problem here, cos you are parroting as fact what others have told you or something you imagined in your head?
Actually, no, it isn't what i have 'just been told' off someone else..It is fact..satanic rituals are fact...even Alex Jones has filmed a ritual in bohemian grove...

So I congratulate you on just accepting something as the 'truth' because you have 'decided' that's the answer.
Wrong!..i know it is the truth because of factual evidence that has been proved to me...simple as that....i'm not asking you to believe me...i have my proof..believe what you like :)

Fantastic, now what? Do you have to be 'transformed' by some all powerful 'universe/alien/god/vibrational energy...ad infinitum" to escape, what else could you 'hope' for? But if it is technology and knowledge and everything we know injected into us by everything we experience, but only made by diabolical/evil/nasty/rich/psychopathic and intelligent beings, but just human beings that have to wipe their bums and wear trousers, what then?
I don't really know what you are trying to say here, sounds like you are confused as to what I have seen and how i am so sure it is factual evidence..anyway...i have stated above my reasons, and my factual evidence...and like i said...it's up to you to believe whatever you want....i have my proof...and i've had it for years :)

[21_12_2012]

everything you just said is something someone else told you.
with the exception of the 100% know that spirits exist in other dimensions quote.
and seeing as you have nothing to compare that to then thats doubtful too.
and seeing as a thought and image and song and picture can be beamed into your head form a device that was demonstrated on Canadian tv, then id be a little worried about what you believe to be what you consider 'real'.
no i havent sorted other dimensions and looked, have you?, bring back some proof did we?.ohhh just a MEMORY huh?

Houdini..i will not respond to your ridiculous posts.

[houdini]

because you cant explain it and have to believe something right?

and no jones didnt film a satanic ritual. he filmed a bunch of guys doing something under a big stone owl in front of a lot of people, and the chances of him sneaking in to it are the same as him being let in to do it. i didnt see any blood spilt on that video, i saw a lump in a boat and then under an owl and a bunch of guys wearing robes.

communication with spirit?
well yours mine and everyones mind can be read and thoughts can be put, so thats not really 100% proof.
its funny that the word spirit is the same used for a type of alcohol.

look all m saying is its very easy to do stuff to our brains and after all its the brain that sees or communicates spirits or sees ufos or reptilians.
how can i say that if i receive communication from a dead relative and this communication includes information that they only knew when they were alive is proof that spirits exist????
now get angry and frustrated like everyone else does and fob off the questions.

[21_12_2012]

because you cant explain it and have to believe something right?

and no jones didnt film a satanic ritual. he filmed a bunch of guys doing something under a big stone owl in front of a lot of people, and the chances of him sneaking in to it are the same as him being let in to do it. i didnt see any blood spilt on that video, i saw a lump in a boat and then under an owl and a bunch of guys wearing robes.

communication with spirit?
well yours mine and everyones mind can be read and thoughts can be put, so thats not really 100% proof.
its funny that the word spirit is the same used for a type of alcohol.

look all m saying is its very easy to do stuff to our brains and after all its the brain that sees or communicates spirits or sees ufos or reptilians.
how can i say that if i receive communication from a dead relative and this communication includes information that they only knew when they were alive is proof that spirits exist????
now get angry and frustrated like everyone else does and fob off the questions.

Houdini..i will not respond to your ridiculous posts.

[houdini]

to the first reply of "you wish mate, you wish" that you edited: No i i dont i would rather discuss it.
second: laughing about it makes me think that you cant discuss it and that either you have no idea what im trying to say or that you CAN see the point i was making and still wont discuss it.
i'll give you some time if you like.

[21_12_2012]

to the first reply of "you wish mate, you wish" that you edited: No i i dont i would rather discuss it.
second: laughing about it makes me think that you cant discuss it and that either you have no idea what im trying to say or that you CAN see the point i was making and still wont discuss it.
i'll give you some time if you like.

Houdini..i will not respond to your ridiculous posts.

[rambleblatt]

Actually, no, it isn't what i have 'just been told' off someone else..It is fact..satanic rituals are fact...even Alex Jones has filmed a ritual in bohemian grove...
That is no evidence that reptilian aliens perform satanic rituals, none.

Wrong!..i know it is the truth because of factual evidence that has been proved to me...simple as that....i'm not asking you to believe me...i have my proof..believe what you like :)

Proven by no evidence, or do you mean you believe? Now, I have seen the Arizona Wilder films and books for example - you just have no idea how much of what you call 'evidence, I have read, listened to and watched, so don't keep laboring under the delusion that you do - and Wilder makes the most tragic errors in judgment and flat out lies on numerous occasions, or is just pitifully lacking in any verisimilitude. For example when she explains that she knew she was being watched by US Navy Intel, because they had a Government License plate marked G14-. Now to the blissfully ignorant that may seem like evidence of her statement, but I have seen hundreds of G14 marked Government plates in the area I live, and many hundreds in places like Washington DC - it has nothing to do with which undercover intelligence agency the car comes from (which seems a little self defeating for shape-shifting alien masters) but means that it is a full-sized saloon car. They all have them, if they are a full-sized saloon car and have a Government plate. Why not check that our for yourself? It's not rocket science. You could read http://www.kyha.com/documents/FedGovTags.pdf for example.

I don't really know what you are trying to say here, sounds like you are confused as to what I have seen and how i am so sure it is factual evidence..anyway...i have stated above my reasons, and my factual evidence...and like i said...it's up to you to believe whatever you want....i have my proof...and i've had it for years :)

Well that's lovely for you, why won't you share so we can all be as illuminated as you in your factitious belief ?

[king]

David is a good and pleasant fellow, but Do you actually believe that they (Reptilians) exist ? If so what proof, except the usual funny left eye shape-lifting theory???

anyone ???,

:eek: :confused: :cool:

I think that he took it little too far with his interpetations of it.
even if reptilians do exist -- they are probably locked into their own realm.

Adam Weishaupt said it best: "Oh, foolish man, what can you not be made to believe?"

People are fascinated with mysteries and this 'reptilian mystery' is one of the greatest stunts pulled on certain
kind of people. After all, it is easier that we believe in evil E.T.s than evil humans who have no feelings for us.


I am not saying that such creatures could not exist is say astral, or xyz dimension.
but, there has to be a protection veil, or multiple protection layers between dimensions/worlds.

the way i see it, it sure looks like that someone has fed bad information to Mr. Icke as he seems to think Queen is a reptile and so is George Bush.

do we really believe that they can possess human bodies so easily and no one was able to detect them before Icke?

Now, if you told me that Barbara is a reptile -- I'd buy that one.

[21_12_2012]

That is no evidence that reptilian aliens perform satanic rituals, none.

Who said reptilian aliens perform the rituals? I certainly didn't ! I said there is factual evidence that satanic ritual does in fact occur...regularly...all over the world in fact...probably right now as i type this message there will be at least one satanic ritual occuring involving sacrifice...It has been performed throughout the ages for thousands of years, mayans even sacrificed their own children to the 'gods'.
What i did say is that the 'reptilian possession' of certain people at these rituals makes perfect sense to me. Satanic rituals are designed to affect the energy within the ritual, thus enabling 'other-dimensional entities' to enter our dimension. And i said that makes sense to me, which it does.

Proven by no evidence, or do you mean you believe? Now, I have seen the Arizona Wilder films and books for example - you just have no idea how much of what you call 'evidence, I have read, listened to and watched, so don't keep laboring under the delusion that you do - and Wilder makes the most tragic errors in judgment and flat out lies on numerous occasions, or is just pitifully lacking in any verisimilitude. For example when she explains that she knew she was being watched by US Navy Intel, because they had a Government License plate marked G14-. Now to the blissfully ignorant that may seem like evidence of her statement, but I have seen hundreds of G14 marked Government plates in the area I live, and many hundreds in places like Washington DC - it has nothing to do with which undercover intelligence agency the car comes from (which seems a little self defeating for shape-shifting alien masters) but means that it is a full-sized saloon car. They all have them, if they are a full-sized saloon car and have a Government plate. Why not check that our for yourself? It's not rocket science. You could read http://www.kyha.com/documents/FedGovTags.pdf for example.

You've picked one thing out of the hours and hours of evidence presented by Arizona Wilder....ok...so that makes it all lies does it?
The woman has been through the most extreme mind-torture and programming probably of any other woman in the world (or one of them), and yet one mistake is supposed to discredit her testimony? Not for me sorry.



Well that's lovely for you, why won't you share so we can all be as illuminated as you in your factitious be

ermmm..to put it bluntly...no ! Why would i waste time proving my experience to someone who is going to come back and say words to the effect of:- "well that's what you believe, how can you prove it?".....or...."how do you know it was real?".....or......"it could have been your mind playing tricks on you".

Like i've said...i have my proof...and have had it for years...nothing will sway me....and i am not here to argue...i respect people's opinions....and that's that really...i make my own mind up and go with what 'resonates' as truth to me...if someone else does not resonate with what i resonate with...fair enough....enough said really.
:)

[rambleblatt]

Like i've said...i have my proof...and have had it for years...nothing will sway me....and i am not here to argue...i respect people's opinions....and that's that really...i make my own mind up and go with what 'resonates' as truth to me...if someone else does not resonate with what i resonate with...fair enough....enough said really.
:)

How toxic can a person be? "it feels good for me...it works for me...I believe. Who cares about anyone else...it works for me" Or, in other words "Baahh baahh baahh". You are just the same as a Christian going to heaven if they follow the rules, looking down on everyone else in hell. You are going to rise up in an energy vortex (that will probably emanate from a crystal or perhaps one of your chakras) and sail away and be okay. It's so close isn't it, don't tell me, 2012 right? Ohh and how satisfied and superior and happy and feeling just soooo gooood in the love and light - hmmmmm, yummy. And all those nasty people who ridiculed me will suffer for their lack of belief, and they will be so sorry they didn't just go along with it.

[21_12_2012]

How toxic can a person be? "it feels good for me...it works for me...I believe. Who cares about anyone else...it works for me" Or, in other words "Baahh baahh baahh". You are just the same as a Christian going to heaven if they follow the rules, looking down on everyone else in hell. You are going to rise up in an energy vortex (that will probably emanate from a crystal or perhaps one of your chakras) and sail away and be okay. It's so close isn't it, don't tell me, 2012 right? Ohh and how satisfied and superior and happy and feeling just soooo gooood in the love and light - hmmmmm, yummy. And all those nasty people who ridiculed me will suffer for their lack of belief, and they will be so sorry they didn't just go along with it.

haha...right...I'm supposed to get angry now am i....or think again about what I've written...or question my beliefs...ermmm...right....i'll do that later then.....you win...you're right...there's nothing out there but us....and our little minds playing tricks on us :)

[rambleblatt]

haha...right...I'm supposed to get angry now am i....or think again about what I've written...or question my beliefs...ermmm...right....i'll do that later then.....you win...you're right...there's nothing out there but us....and our little minds playing tricks on us :)

Actually, I'd be slightly more specific and say it is your little mind playing tricks on you. But don't worry about it, you'll be fine.

[21_12_2012]

Actually, I'd be slightly more specific and say it is your little mind playing tricks on you. But don't worry about it, you'll be fine.

OK then... I won't worry ! Thanks :)
Have a great time on the forum disagreeing with everything Icke has presented to us.
And remember....it's all in the mind !

[rambleblatt]

OK then... I won't worry ! Thanks :)
Have a great time on the forum disagreeing with everything Icke has presented to us.
And remember....it's all in the mind !

I don't disagree with everything Icke says, you just think that. See how your little mind does it?

[21_12_2012]

I don't disagree with everything Icke says, you just think that. See how your little mind does it?

OK, have agreat time closing off your little mind to the possibility of 'other-dimensional' entities existing whatsoever, and not believing anyone that states otherwise. :)

[rambleblatt]

OK, have agreat time closing off your little mind to the possibility of 'other-dimensional' entities existing whatsoever, and not believing anyone that states otherwise. :)

No, you see how it keeps doing it despite all the evidence to te contrary? You don't do you? You are actually incapable of comprehending? But you'll be fine, bet you can't wait for 2012. Do you get a little tingly feeling in your kundalini? Ohhhh, is it exciting? You feel 'right' about it don't you? It's almost here...YIPEEEEEEE.

[sean]

Try to keep it civil guys. The discussion is about the validity of reptilians. Please respect that other people hold differing opinions.

[rambleblatt]

Try to keep it civil guys. The discussion is about the validity of reptilians. Please respect that other people hold differing opinions.

Sean, we can't talk about that as he has to make it personal to him rather than the issue - what are we supposed to do? It relies on a 'personal feeling' rather than fact. How do we proceed then?

[sean]

Other people read these posts too, and its much more interesting and beneficial if the posts don't have any insults or personal attacks. Just giving you a heads up in case it heads in that direction.

[rambleblatt]

Other people read these posts too, and its much more interesting and beneficial if the posts don't have any insults or personal attacks. Just giving you a heads up in case it heads in that direction.

I hope not Sean, thanks.

[21_12_2012]

enough said

[rambleblatt]

Well, it's all about Ascension.

[daylenmichael]

Well, it's all about Ascension.

rambleblatt have you ever ascended? even for a moment?

:confused: Daylen Michael :confused:

[houdini]

dunno bout blatty boy, but i went upstairs bout 20 mins ago

[rambleblatt]

rambleblatt have you ever ascended? even for a moment?

:confused: Daylen Michael :confused:

Well I suppose that depends on what you think it means. Ascension is the term used for the mythical Christ figure's final action following Crucifixion and Resurrection. If that is the thing you are thinking of, are you suggesting I am a God?:eek:

[daylenmichael]

Well I suppose that depends on what you think it means. Ascension is the term used for the mythical Christ figure's final action following Crucifixion and Resurrection. If that is the thing you are thinking of, are you suggesting I am a God?:eek:

Hmmm...I don't know. I am not sure if Jesus was there or not during the time that I visited, we all looked the same so I had trouble distinguishing myself from him or her or whomever else was present at the time.

Yes, I am stating right here and now that you are God. Not the "Creator of all" but the "created in the creators image" one. The "One child of God" as an extension of God's being and thus God just not yet self luminescent or self creative...at least not consciously. If you were a conscious Co-Creator I doubt that I would find you arguing about trivialities on something as stupid as a web forum. Never fear however, no matter how you view yourself it doesn't diminish the fact that you maintain true creative potential.

Peace and Love and never forget We Are All One...

:) Daylen Michael :)

[tinmenace]

So, Rambleblatt, which of David's books have you read?

[gamma]

Wow you have such great understanding, however i'd propose a compromise betweenit being are our egos fault and their actually being reptilians and it is alot their fault.. There is a fair amount of evidence to support extra terrestrials being atleast in the vacinity of earth and i'll buy into the fact our race was conceived by extra terrestials for slavery.

I think regardles of the causes of the pains of this world the only soltution is to let our egos go and asend. I've mentioned before i maybe going through my "dark night of the soul"(a journey of ego reformation) and may be an indigo child, only time will tell these things, maybe i'm just a normal kid who got unlucky with ritalin and is gonna spend the rest of his time on earth brain damaged and wrapt with the internal torture of emptyness.

However i don't think i'm that Egotistical that it's untrue i'd recognise if this is the case it just gives me a unique purpose, i'm hoping i'm humble enough not to ly to myself abut such serious things as i believe i have some small destiny and impact to have on the upcoming transition.

Peace And Light.

Well said, I am not so much on the fence either. I believe whatever entities 'the few' are, they do not require to manifest themselves as any form, human, reptilian or otherwise. I believe they just are. They have greater level of conciousness, and knowledge of reality, and are therefore not bound by the laws we continue to be. Thus taking on any necessary form to do their work.

Just an opinion, maybe, but I have thrashed it out with a few like minded people, just another pebble to chuck in the pond guys, but interested to see what you think.

As long as we keep believing the change, it will happen. And their wont be a thing they can do about it anyway!!

[thirdwave]

The thing is most of the people that are open minded to it come across as very laid back cool dudes who are not freaked out....

most of the ones that don't agree with it come across as aggressive pushy and distant.

that says allot to me.

[21_12_2012]

The thing is most of the people that are open minded to it come across as very laid back cool dudes who are not freaked out....

most of the ones that don't agree with it come across as aggressive pushy and distant.

that says allot to me.

I agree.
I also think that people who are 'confused' or closed-minded and skeptical about either reptilian or 'other spiritual entities' existing, seem to demand proof from people.
It isn't about demanding proof from anyone. It is about finding your own 'proof', or your own 'experiences'.
I personally do not want to go into depth about my 'spiritual proofs' which i have had. For one, it opens me up to ridicule, which doesn't really bother me, but what does bother me is the continual questioning by people who have not yet had their own 'proof' of the existance of 'other entities'
Even typing this message now will provoke some people to comment along the lines of "so if you cant tell us your proof that means you have no proof'......or....."you're talking on a personal level so that is not REAL proof"..etc. etc.
As thirdwave rightly said, the open minded people are laid back about it, which is what i am, and i am sure some of the more closed-minded people will be too when they finally find 'their proof' (if they do)
Like someoe else said previously, i do not think many people would actually talk about it if they had seen something or experienced something, primarliy due to the ridicule it causes, and the constant questioning which follows it.
It is down to each person to find their own proof (if they want to)..or to remain open minded about it all, or to remain skeptical...it isn't up to other people to provide them with proof.
Even David Icke isn't here to provide us with proof, he is here merely to pass on information, it is down to the people to make their own minds up about the information, and to find their own 'truths'

[21_12_2012]

Sometimes, 'truth' or 'proof' must be obtained using LOGIC.
Regarding reptilians:-
You are presented with information about reptilians from various sources.
Your logical mind must process this information and decide whether or not it is logical to be accepted as truth (without actually seeing the physical proof for yourself with your own eyes)
So...you are presented with:-
1) Ancient depictions from all over the world of lizard people, dragons, snake gods, children of the python etc etc ....
2) Credo Mutwas interviews with David Icke, (The Reptilian Agenda) - hours and hours long, with 'seemingly' authentic material and views from a highly respected and high-level member of the zulu community (or at least we're told that)
3) Arizona Wilder's lengthy interviews with Icke regarding her role within satanic rituals,(Revelations of A Mother Goddess) and her naming certain members of authority and people in high places as being 'hybrid' shapeshifting reptilians.
4) The occasional 'channeled' book from one or 2 authors, also describing reptilian entities (for example:- Bringers of the Dawn-Marciniak)
5) MIchael Tsarions references to reptilians ( i do not know much about Michaels work but have watched a couple of his vidoes)
6) Numerous references to satanic rituals and human sacrifices, some of which have even been on mainstream tv news over the years.

There are probably other references to reptilians that i have missed out, but, here is my point:-

Your logical mind has to think about all these references, and make a decision in one of the following ways:-

1) Is it feasible that ALL these references are total crap/disinformation and false...? Has David Icke gone over to Credo Mutwa and Arizona Wilder and said "listen...i want to pull off a scam saying that reptilians have ruled the world for thousands of years, so lets rehearse a massive long script, hours long, and present it to the public...i know it sounds way out but lets do it" ???

Or has David Icke managed to coincidentally find 2 people from opposite parts of the world (Credo Mutwa and Arizona Wilder) who are both coincidentally under hypnosis or mind control, and both been coincidentally programmed to speak about reptilians, just for the purposes of Ickes videos.?

Does all the ancient symbolism and ancient texts and depictions of reptilian gods, mean nothing? Just a coincidence..nothing to worry about?

And the channeled books/material that is out depicting reptilians... thats just happens to tie in with Icke/Credo/Arizonas information...just a coincidence?

And lets not forget, these people have actually named people in power as being satanic/shapeshifting reptilians, and even child abusers...yet no legal action has ever been taken out against them for accusing these people of being satanic/child abusing/reptilians

What about the rituals...bohemian grove is just one captured on film, what about reports of others, are they all bogus reports? Do kids get sacrificed for nothing or do they not get sacrificed at all?

2) Is there SOME truth in this, so i can remain open-minded
or
3) Does it all sound right to my logical mind, therefore i am making the decision that it must be true based on the evidence i have seen.

When you weigh ALL THIS UP in your logical mind...what does it say to you?
Coincidence? False? Lies? All set up to fool the public, but just happens to relate to everything else?
Or does your logical mind answer: "Yes, that all adds up to me. I have no reason to doubt the fact that reptilians do..or could exist?"

If more people actually tried to go out and 'disprove' something, rather than demand proof OF something, then more 'truth' would be found...but it seems that skeptics and closed minded people demand PROOF, rather than opening their minds and attempting to disprove something.

Logic plays a big part in balancing out the 'truth without proof'

[thirdwave]

I agree.
I also think that people who are 'confused' or closed-minded and skeptical about either reptilian or 'other spiritual entities' existing, seem to demand proof from people.
It isn't about demanding proof from anyone. It is about finding your own 'proof', or your own 'experiences'.
I personally do not want to go into depth about my 'spiritual proofs' which i have had. For one, it opens me up to ridicule, which doesn't really bother me, but what does bother me is the continual questioning by people who have not yet had their own 'proof' of the existance of 'other entities'
Even typing this message now will provoke some people to comment along the lines of "so if you cant tell us your proof that means you have no proof'......or....."you're talking on a personal level so that is not REAL proof"..etc. etc.
As thirdwave rightly said, the open minded people are laid back about it, which is what i am, and i am sure some of the more closed-minded people will be too when they finally find 'their proof' (if they do)
Like someoe else said previously, i do not think many people would actually talk about it if they had seen something or experienced something, primarliy due to the ridicule it causes, and the constant questioning which follows it.
It is down to each person to find their own proof (if they want to)..or to remain open minded about it all, or to remain skeptical...it isn't up to other people to provide them with proof.
Even David Icke isn't here to provide us with proof, he is here merely to pass on information, it is down to the people to make their own minds up about the information, and to find their own 'truths'


yes... and i find with this stuff there is not really proof us such... there is proof that we are lied to this is no doubt and there is proof that the mainstream control and manipulate and serve the government more than the people... but regarding the spiritual side of things its down to individuals.... and basically down to a bit of open mindedness and common sence. for me most of what icke says is actually quite logical and makes sence...

for me its very simple that spirituality scares the life out of some people, they don't like the feeling that the floor is not as solid as they would like it to be.... which is silly as they are simply just using imprisonment as security.. but they will fight tooth and nail to keep hold of that imprisonment as if their life's depended on it....

but as time goes on the floor is going to be less solid and people will either become even more incredibly ignorant and incredibly easy to manipulate or people are going to start thinking with their real brains...

gona be fun! :)

[rambleblatt]

So, Rambleblatt, which of David's books have you read?

I have read all of them.

[houdini]

yeah, while i was there i didnt bump into any reppies.

now where did i put that crystal?
oh, found it....jeez i better wash that........

i dont think reppies exist, due to the fact of i havent seen one, except for the goannas i saw on holiday last week, and the blue tongue lizards that scurry about in my yard.
id like anyone that has seen someone shapeshift into a lizard post their experience tho.
thatd be cool, but then how would we discern truth(?) from utter tosh(?)
we'll never be able to do it.
And we'll never be able to get proof of anything, especially when mind control, hypnosis, and peoples mental ability are involved.

[tinmenace]

So, what do you believe in? You believe in God? What's your religion? (if any). What about other things you can't see....how 'bout love? You believe in that?

So, what you're saying is that unless you see something with your own eyes, you don't believe it exists?

[fryertuck]

So, what do you believe in? You believe in God? What's your religion? (if any). What about other things you can't see....how 'bout love? You believe in that?

So, what you're saying is that unless you see something with your own eyes, you don't believe it exists?

http://i12.tinypic.com/2z8xikx.jpg

[houdini]

no.
i would like to see evidence.
then, even that is suspect isnt it?, i mean what is evidence.
if i see something with my own eyes that doesnt mean its so

no i dont believe in 'love' and i dont believe in god
what i believe in
thats my belief
and religion is just a joke, thats another belief of mine.
but if people want to worship a god, or jesus/buddha/crishna/whatever then they can go right ahead, why should i have a problem with that.
and if reptiles exist, and everything is just an illusion then do they actually exist?

[rambleblatt]

So, what do you believe in? You believe in God? What's your religion? (if any). What about other things you can't see....how 'bout love? You believe in that?

So, what you're saying is that unless you see something with your own eyes, you don't believe it exists?


Ohh Love - the old familiar. It's all about feeling good, and anything else that pops into your head. Have you even re-read what you just wrote? What is your super-glued attraction to believing in something, anything? "I have to believe in something, otherwise how can I pretend I am good and apportion blame on others?"

Toxic, ignorant and a waste of air, that's what these nonsense things are - they are just because people are too scared to face up to what's going on - so a magical saviour power will fly down out of the sky, or suck them up in an ascension vortex or whatever other stuff they imagine in their systematically emptied brains. Who on earth wants to be ONE with that/ It's like being asked to join psyche's with a paper bag.

What is it Icke says all the time? Oh yeas, bollocks.

[tinmenace]

You've read all of them? Ok, so which parts didn't you understand?

[tinmenace]

No, no Houdini, you're not getting away with it that easily.

You said "..i dont think reppies exist, due to the fact of i havent seen one.."

And I'm asking, do you only believe in that which you can see?

[daman]

So, Rambleblatt, which of David's books have you read?

Sorry but your profession must be a teacher. I guess you did not read my comment, please refrain from posting here, unless it is constructive.

:mad:

It is about the existence of reptiles. Not about how many D-ICKE books we read, or about what we believe in.

:eek:

[tinmenace]

What a cop-out post.

Now go outside and let the grown-ups talk, dearie.

[daman]

What a cop-out post.

Now go outside and let the grown-ups talk, dearie.
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You may start your own thread
:eek: :mad:

[tinmenace]

I'd like to see you make me go away....

[sean]

Guys, keep is civil. Swearing or any abuse towards another member is simply not acceptable nor is it indicative of a mature discussion.

[daman]

lol f.... off is considered an offense, funny.

http://www.davidickeforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46042&start=15

Here is what people think of Sean.

[tinmenace]

All people in the whole world? Wow! You sure know a lot of people, eh?