Emotionless Thinking

[Anders Lindman]

To learn how to think without emotions is handy. Ordinary sheeple's thinking is always soaked in mushy or agitated emotions. That is totally unnecessary. Just drop the emotional mess from your thinking and you will feel right as rain.

[tinmenace]

That would be eliminating one of the things that make us human. That would turn us into robots, don't you think?

[oceanwave]

trick is not to think...

...but to be aware and 'see'

...because, imo, emotions *is* a product of thinking...

[tinmenace]

I hope I never lose empathy.

[oceanwave]

I hope I never lose empathy.

as far as i know...

...emapthy comes from being aware...

[i am all i am]

That would be eliminating one of the things that make us human. That would turn us into robots, don't you think?


trick is not to think...

...but to be aware and 'see'

...because, imo, emotions *is* a product of thinking...

I see this with a similar perspective Oceanwave.

Tinmenace, you are not "human", that which you are is infinite.

Your emotions are what you think and declare them to be. I AM creates for you the word expressed after it. There is no coincidence that when someone declares themselves depressed, that they start to "feel" depressed. So, being human is the trap, the systems way of making you less and disempowering you, and what you accept by choice when you declare it. This is when emotions control your life. This is the human state of being.

When you are walking and you stub your toe, for example, it is because you were 'un-aware'. You weren't aware of what you were doing. You were thinking of other things than what you were doing. Your mind already does two things at once. You see and think at the same time. When you focus on what you are seeing as much as what you are thinking, you are in balance. Your body stops fighting for attention by damaging itself, because when it is damaging itself, that is the human state of being.

When you think and speak as though you are infinite, you allow the body to act in balance with Who You Are, the INFINITE you. You become all things through choice. This is your true state of being.

Do you choose to be empathy, and therefore show empathy ???

The choice is yours to create your experience.



With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[adramelech]

Of course. Inhuman thinking is superior in many ways - that's one of the reasons it has dominated "human" civilization for tens of thousands of years. The core of your brain is not emotional. Emotions are a purely human complication of observation caused by chemical reactions in the outer brain. Humans like to apply complex meaning to these chemical reactions, but thinking and emotions are usually not compatible. Emotions are volatile, they make people behave irrationally.

Of course, when harnassed as a means of perception or higher awareness, emotions can serve a powerful function inaccessible to things of inhuman origin.

[Anders Lindman]

That would be eliminating one of the things that make us human. That would turn us into robots, don't you think?


Emotionless thinking is about learning how to separate thoughts from emotions, not how to suppress, deny or remove emotions themselves. When the thinking process is aligned with emotions, then emotions becomes mechanical because thoughts are mechanical.

[Anders Lindman]

trick is not to think...

...but to be aware and 'see'

...because, imo, emotions *is* a product of thinking...

It depend on the definition of emotions. My view is that emotions are like a river, and then thoughts try to confine the river by putting it into boxes of water, but a box of water is not the river!

[Anders Lindman]

Inhuman thinking is superior in many ways

But that would be mechanical! Like reptile/psychopath behavior without emotions. Emotionless thinking means thoughts without emotions, but not a life without emotions!

Or to be more correct; there are two kinds of emotionless thinking: (1) emotionless thinking where emotions are not needed, and (2) emotionless thinking where emotions are the boss. Type (1) is mechanical/reptile brain thinking, and type (2) is non-mechanical thinking. It's type 2 I am talking about.

[Anders Lindman]

Just as you can learn how to play the piano, you can learn how to think emotionlessly. At the beginning you will of course not be a master, just as when you begin to learn how to play piano you will not likely produce beautiful music until you have mastered that musical instrument.

Lesson 1. As a first lesson in emotionless thinking, start by observing your thoughts and identify the emotional content in the thoughts.

[king]

To learn how to think without emotions is handy. Ordinary sheeple's thinking is always soaked in mushy or agitated emotions. That is totally unnecessary. Just drop the emotional mess from your thinking and you will feel right as rain.


then we would become same as psychopaths in power.
like first person to respond said -- emotions makes us human,
lack of emotions would make us psychopaths.

[jimijams]

then we would become same as psychopaths in power.
like first person to respond said -- emotions makes us human,
lack of emotions would make us psychopaths.
You are confusing emotion with feeling, two different things IMO. As mentioned before emotions are produced as a result of chemical reactions in the brain whereas feelings are produced from the deeper level of the soul.

[Anders Lindman]

then we would become same as psychopaths in power.
like first person to respond said -- emotions makes us human,
lack of emotions would make us psychopaths.

True emotionless thinking requires that feelings are the boss. In ordinary sheeple and in psychopaths in power, thinking is the boss.

[Anders Lindman]

You are confusing emotion with feeling, two different things IMO. As mentioned before emotions are produced as a result of chemical reactions in the brain whereas feelings are produced from the deeper level of the soul.

Very good point. We could say that emotions are feelings related to time. Emotions cannot flow. Feelings can flow.

[jimijams]

That would be eliminating one of the things that make us human. That would turn us into robots, don't you think?


Emotions don't make us human, all animals feel anger, joy and sadness. We are not our emotions nor our thoughts, most of those are given to us through programming. What makes us who we are is our soul and how we feel about the world and humanity. You could program a robot to have emotions, to get angry or to laugh and cry but you couldn't program knowing, intuition or empathy, these belong to the soul not the brain.

[jimijams]

True emotionless thinking requires that feelings are the boss. In ordinary sheeple and in psychopaths in power, thinking is the boss.
I know a few psychopaths and they are totally ruled by their emotions and the chatter in their head yet have no feeling or sensitivity toward others.

[melbo]

I think the trick is to identify your emotions - do they stem from love or fear - and not to be ruled by them. Emotionless to me seems inhuman though.

[Anders Lindman]

I know a few psychopaths and they are totally ruled by their emotions and the chatter in their head yet have no feeling or sensitivity toward others.

Maybe so, yet still, it is the chatter in their head, the thinking, that is the boss.

[aventurine]

Good topic. I think the trick is to observe our emotions/feelings, and try to find their source. True feelings are the language of the soul, yet (in the CWG series) "your soul talks through your body" so "if you want to know your truth on any subject, look to your feelings. Checking with your body is the fastest way of doing that".

The trouble is your mind also produces similar bodily reactions that are easily mistaken as true feelings. Therefore, we have to try to learn in any given situation whether we are reacting from soul or mind/ego. That's the tricky part.;)

[Anders Lindman]

I think the trick is to identify your emotions - do they stem from love or fear - and not to be ruled by them. Emotionless to me seems inhuman though.

Yes, identify emotional content glued to thoughts. See the heaviness, the mushiness, the feverish agitation of sticky emotional content contaminating the thought process. When thought is boss, then subconscious emotions is the real hidden boss, which people using subliminal manipulation are aware of even though they probably cannot see the big picture even themselves.

Thought creates images of time, and feelings in the form of memory content is attached to those images, and from that emotions arise. A thoroughly nasty affair.

[i am all i am]

I think the trick is to identify your emotions - do they stem from love or fear - and not to be ruled by them. Emotionless to me seems inhuman though.

We create through MIND / SOUL / BODY, with THOUGHT / WORD / ACTION, to create HERE / IN BETWEEN / THERE and PAST / PRESENT / FUTURE, with either (here is free will/choice) JOY / LOVE / TRUTH or PAIN / FEAR / LIES, so we can experince the ONENESS of who we are, INFINITE LOVE. Add the belief that all is possible, and with LOVE you can achieve everything.

YOUR EXPERIENCE

THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES,
IN THE LIFE YOU LIVE,
IT'S CHOSEN EXPERIENCES,
THAT YOUR SOUL DOES GIVE.

WITH THOUGHTS, WORDS AND ACTIONS,
YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICE KNOWN,
THROUGH INFINITE COMBINATIONS,
YOUR EXPERIENCE IS GROWN.

FOR FROM ALL THOUGHTS EVERYWHERE,
YOUR FATE IS DECIDED,
AND IN BETWEEN HERE AND THERE,
YOUR EXPERIENCE IS PROVIDED.

SO CHOOSE WITH CARE,
WHAT IT IS YOU SHARE,
AS IN BETWEEN HERE AND THERE,
IT'S YOUR SOUL THAT YOU BARE.



With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[Anders Lindman]

Good topic. I think the trick is to observe our emotions/feelings, and try to find their source. True feelings are the language of the soul, yet (in the CWG series) "your soul talks through your body" so "if you want to know your truth on any subject, look to your feelings. Checking with your body is the fastest way of doing that".

The trouble is your mind also produces similar bodily reactions that are easily mistaken as true feelings. Therefore, we have to try to learn in any given situation whether we are reacting from soul or mind/ego. That's the tricky part.;)

As I see it, emotions are always related to time. Not the flow of time, but the images of time created by thoughts. For example, when the pathetic sheeple win a Nobel Prize or an Oscar or an Olympic gold medal, then the "happiness" they experience is a product of thoughts creating images of time and "happy" emotional content is then attached to those images. The problem is, nobody can feel happiness in the future. All feelings are now or never.

[joy division]

I think i do this now any way.

I am not saying i dont have emotions but i have detacthed my self, normally emotions involve worry which is a bad thjing.

[Anders Lindman]

Lesson 2: When you have learned how to observe the emotional content related to a thought, the next step is to learn how to separate the part of the emotional content that is related to time from feelings not related to time.

For example, let's say that you shall go to a job interview the next day. Then you have thoughts about that interview. If there is any emotional content in those thoughts, then those are not true feelings. Instead, those emotions are created from mental images about the interview in the future and then emotional content is attached to those images as a guess of what you will feel then. Nothing wrong with this kind of guess per se, but you should not turn the guess into a feeling, because then you are deadening the aliveness of your feelings by letting past memories of feelings color your guesses about the future.

If you let the future make you happy or sad, then you are letting phony feelings, fake feelings, to replace your true feelings. The same with the past. If you let the past make you happy or sad, then you are living in the past which is dead and can never give anything but phony emotions, fake emotions. A memory of a feeling is not the same thing as fresh living feelings.

[Anders Lindman]

Hmm... Wait a minute. I think I have made a mistake. Sorry about that. Emotions, i.e. what I have called feelings related to time are not bad. If we remove the emotional content altogether, then we are left with clear, fresh feelings, yes, but we have also thrown out the baby with the bathwater.

The trick is more likely to have BOTH emotions AND feelings. Emotions are related to time, while feelings are created as a fresh flow in the now.

The problem instead is, that we often ONLY have emotions and essentially no feelings at all. That's like having plenty of food to eat but nothing to drink.

[eternal_spirit]

We need a balance. Sometimes the heart can overide the intellect and vice versa. At times you need to be rational and listen to the intellect, other times you have to feel you're intuition which is the heart. especailly when you can't find a logical rational explanation with the concious mind.

[Anders Lindman]

We need a balance. Sometimes the heart can overide the intellect and vice versa. At times you need to be rational and listen to the intellect, other times you have to feel you're intuition which is the heart. especailly when you can't find a logical rational explanation with the concious mind.

There is also another balance that I wish to stress. If we define emotions as feelings related to time, then the rest of the feelings are related to the present moment. It would be a good idea to always try to keep at least 50% feelings not related to time. This would mean that our emotions then cannot carry away too far and drag us away from present moment awareness.

Many people live their lives with like 99% emotions, even people who say that they are not in touch with their emotions are actually very stuck in emotions, such as boredom, irritation, frustration, apathy and so on. Living a life based almost entirely on emotions (both positive and negative emotions) is considered normal in today's society, but it's actually an imbalance. A better balance would be to be grounded in at least 50% feelings not related to time, and at any given moment, to have at the most 50% emotions.

[oceanwave]

Hmm... Wait a minute. I think I have made a mistake. Sorry about that. Emotions, i.e. what I have called feelings related to time are not bad. If we remove the emotional content altogether, then we are left with clear, fresh feelings, yes, but we have also thrown out the baby with the bathwater.

The trick is more likely to have BOTH emotions AND feelings. Emotions are related to time, while feelings are created as a fresh flow in the now.

The problem instead is, that we often ONLY have emotions and essentially no feelings at all. That's like having plenty of food to eat but nothing to drink.

ahh, now...

...you *begin* to see...

[december]

To learn how to think without emotions is handy. Ordinary sheeple's thinking is always soaked in mushy or agitated emotions. That is totally unnecessary. Just drop the emotional mess from your thinking and you will feel right as rain.

I think emotions and thinking are two different things.
So, I don't even understand the Emotionless thinking thing.

What is it?

[oceanwave]

I think emotions and thinking are two different things.
So, I don't even understand the Emotionless thinking thing.

What is it?

think about it...

...or rather, don't

...and you just might get it...

[blane777]

think about it...

...or rather, don't

...and you just might get it...


Couldn't have put it better myself.

dont think

dont feel

just know :)

[oceanwave]

dont think

dont feel

just know :)

...you're the flow...

[limelady]

Interesting thread!

When writing your posts, are you acting from thoughts, emotions or feelings?

When reading the posts of others, are you responses coming from thoughts, emotions or feelings?

[oceanwave]

Interesting thread!

When writing your posts, are you acting from thoughts, emotions or feelings?

When reading the posts of others, are you responses coming from thoughts, emotions or feelings?

lol...

...that's like saying,

...when you take a step, are you doing so because it's

...a, instinctive?

...b, mindful?

...c, intuitive?



...watch yer step missy...

:P

[limelady]

lol...

...that's like saying,

...when you take a step, are you doing so because it's

...a, instinctive?

...b, mindful?

...c, intuitive?



...watch yer step missy...

:P

:D

I see all this another way, in that when I need to differentiate between the woods and the trees (or sort out the emotional chaff) I try and remove myself from the situation and take myself to what I call the 'observation deck' - a place where I have taught myself to go where it is possible to view the entire situation from the point of view of the impassionate 'ultimate observer'. You can see things a lot clearer from that perspective because you can take in the whole and understand situations as they REALLY are rather than through the haze of emotional confusion.

Anyway, it works for me....well most of the time ;)

[oceanwave]

:D

I see all this another way, in that when I need to differentiate between the woods and the trees (or sort out the emotional chaff) I try and remove myself from the situation and take myself to what I call the 'observation deck' - a place where I have taught myself to go where it is possible to view the entire situation from the point of view of the impassionate 'ultimate observer'. You can see things a lot clearer from that perspective because you can take in the whole and understand situations as they REALLY are rather than through the haze of emotional confusion.

Anyway, it works for me....well most of the time ;)

for me, that's where it's at...

...detachment

...cept in my case it's 'detachment with feeling'

...simply speaking, "not caring with love"...

[i_am]

for me, that's where it's at...

...detachment

...cept in my case it's 'detachment with feeling'

...simply speaking, "not caring with love"...

For me it is detached from the drama, whilst still feeling compassion for those caught up in and affected by the drama.