China readying itself to crash the world markets??

[el scampio]

I'm not sure how much people are aware of China's dealings in the world markets.

Obviously the US Government haven't said much about what is going. Now China are delving into the FTSE 100 as well.

China is reckoned to have amassed around US$1.3 trillion in foreign exchange reserve and most believe that it is mainly made up of the dollar with over $900bn in a mix of US bonds. Quite a few in the US Senate wish to apply sanctions on China due to the massive influx of cheap trade going into the US from China and also massive copyright infringements. If the US were to put sanctions on China they could easily cause the the crash of the Dollar and thus cause a crash in the markets.

The Chinese central bank have been snapping up shares in many corporations on the FTSE 100.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/graphics/2008/09/07/ixchina.jpg

Very generally, China could crash the US economy sending the US and the UK into a deep recession. Invariably this would cause share prices to plummet allowing China to amass vast number of shares in major companies at rock bottom prices.


The Telegraph has 2 articles on China's Central Banks recent goings on.

Today:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/09/07/ccchina107.xml

China foreign currency reserve
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/08/07/bcnchina107a.xml

[duckingdafta]

it's like moving the power from one pot, putting it into another pot and giving it a new name the the people think is change..

[krakhead]

This would fit quite nicely into Robert Anton Wilson's observation that power has slowly moved West since civilisation began.

[jesta_g]

great info thanks :) this helps towards the picture greatly.

im sure you are very right with this, it sounds very logical.
with the stock markets down (which is something i have been lookin into for a while now) we will be on our knees as a race. what better time for them to place their cards on the table and push the end game but crushing the worlds stock markets through china. see this happening in the next month if not this month.

please prepare yourself people, survival kits and spare food (tinned food/ seeds etcetc), vitamins, water, all of it ..... even for a greeat camping trip (if nothing happens) but please have this ready. i will have mine and my families ready by the end of next week.

shall we post up a thread on what to have as a survival kit? im sure many will appreciate this.

[el scampio]

great info thanks :) this helps towards the picture greatly.

im sure you are very right with this, it sounds very logical.
with the stock markets down (which is something i have been lookin into for a while now) we will be on our knees as a race. what better time for them to place their cards on the table and push the end game but crushing the worlds stock markets through china. see this happening in the next month if not this month.

please prepare yourself people, survival kits and spare food (tinned food/ seeds etcetc), vitamins, water, all of it ..... even for a greeat camping trip (if nothing happens) but please have this ready. i will have mine and my families ready by the end of next week.

shall we post up a thread on what to have as a survival kit? im sure many will appreciate this.

Thanks for the appreciation.

Unfortunately over the last few weeks I have went blue in the face trying to portray the seriousness of this to people. Its either a comical laugh or the say I am nuts. But they are slowly actually beginning to realise when I show them news articles from papers and how bad the economy is.

Good advice about the survival kits. People either don't grasp how bad it could be or are in wilful denial about how affected they would be if China actually dumped the dollars they have. It would be a recession like none of us have ever had to deal with before.

[jesta_g]

Thanks for the appreciation.

Unfortunately over the last few weeks I have went blue in the face trying to portray the seriousness of this to people. Its either a comical laugh or the say I am nuts. But they are slowly actually beginning to realise when I show them news articles from papers and how bad the economy is.

Good advice about the survival kits. People either don't grasp how bad it could be or are in wilful denial about how affected they would be if China actually dumped the dollars they have. It would be a recession like none of us have ever had to deal with before.

very very true dude :)

honestly man i really appreciate anyones efforts to filter the truth be it bullshit or not. information is there for us to use so we must use it wisely and thats what you appear to be doing :)

could you help with posting a thread on survival kits etc , i am new to this forum lol in fact im only 22 and im new to the internet and computers :p

[fuggles]

Tell me , how bad is the economy ? i dont understand when I read articles about China and debt etc, its not my strong point.

So, how bad is it so people can understand who dont know anything about it ?

[jesta_g]

Tell me , how bad is the economy ? i dont understand when I read articles about China and debt etc, its not my strong point.

So, how bad is it so people can understand who dont know anything about it ?

yeh same here well i dont know as much as id like to.

As david icke explains very simply in his books.

money is printed as debt, the ammount of physical cash in circulation determines the exchange rates which in turn determines the stock markets etc the money in circulation is determined by the banks which are controlled by the elites. the more we use digital/online money by use our cards etc this money then gets taken out of circulation.

have you noticed recently we are going into a depression, soon to be a major market crash, and high street stores are still encouraging people to buy buy buy and our local councils (especially in edinburgh) are encouaged to spend spend spend on tings we do not need this drastically affects the money in circulation further increasing debt. the banks can recall ours debts anytime they like especially during a market crash or war, when this happens and you cannot pay them back you will have your house and possesions taken and you will be taken to court probably arrested this time around etcetc

as for china their companies invest huge ammounts into corporations and companies especially providing natural resources such as coal and oil and like the banks they can recall their debts anytime they like. if china does this (also japan, i feel an "earthquake" caused by haarp wil happen in japan and cripple their economy and they will have to recall their loans to countries etc in particular america) then it will greatly affect us ALL no matter where you are, money (which it already is) will be worth nothing and will not get us anything just like during nazi germany when people were using money as toilet paper and being everywhere in the streets etc

i suggest, if you can, investin in gold. even then preparing f0r the coming war by investing in survival kits and and food supplies.

this will happen in the next couple of months if not this month im sorry to say. the mental thing is 3 years ago I said to my mates this would happened and that the war on russia would begin on the 08/08/08 to name a few "predictions" (just using common sense and hard investigating) and guess what they all said t me ? shut up gareth with your conspiracy bull shit, now especially in the last week they are doing their own homework and coming to me for advice etc (which i greatly appreciate)

anyway sorry back to the point, im pretty sure that was a very basic description of how the system works etc would appreciate corrections or highlights tho :)

one thing thats for sure we will witness this in the next month or so. just look at the big picture step back take a breath and see the emerging pattern in the worlds economy etc. its fucked.

[bendoon]

Tell me , how bad is the economy ? i dont understand when I read articles about China and debt etc, its not my strong point.

So, how bad is it so people can understand who dont know anything about it ?

The US & the UK are completely bankrupt, if they were businesses they would have been shut down years ago.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2079rank.html

Their total debts are 22 trillion dollars (actually its far higher in reality), compare the figures to other countries in the chart above, they have more debt than the next 12 countries combined.

I believe they are just being kept afloat to enforce the NWO, at some point though they will simply collapse as it will be unsustainable.

On to China, I believe that the Chinese leaders are in on the NWO, so maybe it has been decided to switch the power centre to China at some point, if so the US and UK will be left to go down the plug.

[killmicrosoft]

good bit of info thanks

[jesta_g]

The US & the UK are completely bankrupt, if they were businesses they would have been shut down years ago.



Their total debts are 22 trillion dollars (actually its far higher in reality), compare the figures to other countries in the chart above.

I believe they are just being kept afloat to enforce the NWO, at some point though they will simply collapse as it will be unsustainable.

On to China, I believe that the Chinese leaders are in on the NWO, so maybe it has been decided to switch the power centre to China at some point, if so the US and UK will be left to go down the plug.



yes,yes, and yes ,good reply.

and this debt can be recalled at any time!!!

why are our names printed in capital letters on forms/ birth cirtificates/ passports/ bank accounts etc? because its not you "Jimbob Jimmy" the person its "JIMBOB JIMMY" the product.

[cleopatraxxx]

The US & the UK are completely bankrupt, if they were businesses they would have been shut down years ago.



Their total debts are 22 trillion dollars (actually its far higher in reality), compare the figures to other countries in the chart above, they have more debt than the next 12 countries combined.

I believe they are just being kept afloat to enforce the NWO, at some point though they will simply collapse as it will be unsustainable.

On to China, I believe that the Chinese leaders are in on the NWO, so maybe it has been decided to switch the power centre to China at some point, if so the US and UK will be left to go down the plug.

all this is a NIHGTMARE

[fuggles]

yeh same here well i dont know as much as id like to.

As david icke explains very simply in his books.

money is printed as debt, the ammount of physical cash in circulation determines the exchange rates which in turn determines the stock markets etc the money in circulation is determined by the banks which are controlled by the elites. the more we use digital/online money by use our cards etc this money then gets taken out of circulation.

have you noticed recently we are going into a depression, soon to be a major market crash, and high street stores are still encouraging people to buy buy buy and our local councils (especially in edinburgh) are encouaged to spend spend spend on tings we do not need this drastically affects the money in circulation further increasing debt. the banks can recall ours debts anytime they like especially during a market crash or war, when this happens and you cannot pay them back you will have your house and possesions taken and you will be taken to court probably arrested this time around etcetc

as for china their companies invest huge ammounts into corporations and companies especially providing natural resources such as coal and oil and like the banks they can recall their debts anytime they like. if china does this (also japan, i feel an "earthquake" caused by haarp wil happen in japan and cripple their economy and they will have to recall their loans to countries etc in particular america) then it will greatly affect us ALL no matter where you are, money (which it already is) will be worth nothing and will not get us anything just like during nazi germany when people were using money as toilet paper and being everywhere in the streets etc

i suggest, if you can, investin in gold. even then preparing f0r the coming war by investing in survival kits and and food supplies.

this will happen in the next couple of months if not this month im sorry to say. the mental thing is 3 years ago I said to my mates this would happened and that the war on russia would begin on the 08/08/08 to name a few "predictions" (just using common sense and hard investigating) and guess what they all said t me ? shut up gareth with your conspiracy bull shit, now especially in the last week they are doing their own homework and coming to me for advice etc (which i greatly appreciate)

anyway sorry back to the point, im pretty sure that was a very basic description of how the system works etc would appreciate corrections or highlights tho :)

one thing thats for sure we will witness this in the next month or so. just look at the big picture step back take a breath and see the emerging pattern in the worlds economy etc. its fucked.

Isnt the world bank etc and the New World Order who are probably behind all of this, support America even though it may go bankrupt ? I mean, the NWO favour America over other countries right ? SO whatever happens its all part of their plan anyway isnt it ?

What will happen ? We will all starve to death ? Probably, like 1940s germany like you said.

Anyway, why dont they just scrap the economy, hit the resest button on the world bank, start everything again from zero, ? Obviously this would have to happen after world war 3, but it probably will happen anyway. Or after billions of us die or we get killed, they can just hit the reset button, each country gets 2 trillion dollars to spend , start from scratch. etc etc.

[stelios]

The UK and US are already in a deep recession.
The UK because of 11 years of Labour mismanagement.
In the whole of the EUSSR the UK is the only economy in recession.
China is booming, so is Russia, so is Iran, Norway, and many others so this is certainly not a global recession it is a specific one due to gross mismanagement.
In the US many billions if not trillions have been basically stolen by overcharging by sub contractors and awarding of money for phantom defence procurement.
2001 the Israeli Dov Zakheim announced $2,300,000,000,000 was missing from just the pentagon accounts. Obviously more would be missing from other departments.
The same thing has occured under Labour in Britain.
£20,000,000,000 spent on a worthless NHS computer. Billion pound contracts awarded to US and Israeli companies with substantial backhanders paid into Labour coffers.

If China or the Arabs or anyone else dumps dollar assets it will accelerate the current recession we are in, but it wont be the end of the world.
The USA economy is already bankrupt and the slavish Arabs dictators of the Persian Gulf have been propping up the US economy for years now with their extravagence.
The US empire has to end because it has been terrible for the world. It is about time we gave the Chinese, Japanese and Russians the lead because i sincerely believe they may be better custodians than the Americans.
Britain unfortunately is screwed either way. Our Labour government has been resideing up the American's backsides for too long.

Americans living and working in the UK pay no tax.
American companies like Ford, Merril Lynch, Goldman Sachs, EDS, etc pay no tax.

The dollar meltdown is probably anticipated by the US anyway. After all if they merge MExico, Canada and the US and create the Amero all dollar debts get wiped off and it will be the Chinese and the Arabs who lose everything.

[fuggles]

The UK and US are already in a deep recession.
The UK because of 11 years of Labour mismanagement.
In the whole of the EUSSR the UK is the only economy in recession.
China is booming, so is Russia, so is Iran, Norway, and many others so this is certainly not a global recession it is a specific one due to gross mismanagement.
In the US many billions if not trillions have been basically stolen by overcharging by sub contractors and awarding of money for phantom defence procurement.
2001 the Israeli Dov Zakheim announced $2,300,000,000,000 was missing from just the pentagon accounts. Obviously more would be missing from other departments.
The same thing has occured under Labour in Britain.
£20,000,000,000 spent on a worthless NHS computer. Billion pound contracts awarded to US and Israeli companies with substantial backhanders paid into Labour coffers.

If China or the Arabs or anyone else dumps dollar assets it will accelerate the current recession we are in, but it wont be the end of the world.
The USA economy is already bankrupt and the slavish Arabs dictators of the Persian Gulf have been propping up the US economy for years now with their extravagence.
The US empire has to end because it has been terrible for the world. It is about time we gave the Chinese, Japanese and Russians the lead because i sincerely believe they may be better custodians than the Americans.
Britain unfortunately is screwed either way. Our Labour government has been resideing up the American's backsides for too long.

Americans living and working in the UK pay no tax.
American companies like Ford, Merril Lynch, Goldman Sachs, EDS, etc pay no tax.

The dollar meltdown is probably anticipated by the US anyway. After all if they merge MExico, Canada and the US and create the Amero all dollar debts get wiped off and it will be the Chinese and the Arabs who lose everything.

Whats the solution ? World War ? I mean obviously they will have to resort to that, Ideally people would start trading in food and clothes and building equipment or whatever and scrap the money, but is it heading to World war ?

But who controls the wrold bank who gave us the statistics ? America ? if it was, then America can control everything ? The NWO favour America, not the other countries,

[danster82]

Elite <-> Counter-elite

[bendoon]

We might be offered a tempting solution.:D

All debts will be cancelled providing we accept a world Government, cashless society and agree to be microchipped. :(

[seanie]

Don't forget this has been happening for a long time, if the markets are going to crash it would of happened by now, if it does happen it's planned because the country and the world in general is bankrupt, the only reason china would dump the dollar is because the RMB, HK dollar is pegged to the US dollar so when the dollar takes a hit so does china's worth

[seanie]

In anyway people make this sound like a bad thing, the slate has to be wiped clean

[jackassjoiner]

the reason the chinese haven't dumped the dollar yet (from what i can make out) is because the opec countries also have a vast surplus of dollars too. if china were to dump the dollar then the arab countries would also be in great trouble. I read somewhere (sorry cant remember where) that china are hugely reliant on arab oil and therefore opec has warned china any move to weaken the dollar would mean they would not be supplied oil. so everyone seems to be in a catch 22

i made a post in another thread as to the real reason the usa would attack iran here is the link to the article, sort of goes along with my dollar protection theory, and possibly also the future oil trading currency

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html

i hope you are wrong about world war what a scary prospect.

here is another link for a bottle that filters any water into drinking water, it is expensive but probably worth every penny. stock piling water is an expensive and space consuming thing. also if you have to move quickly you can carry this very easily.

http://www.lifesaversystems.com/buy.html

ps it is nice to be in a place where people are like minded i feel very alone when it comes to talking about these subjects

[killmicrosoft]

don't forget this has been happening for a long time, if the markets are going to crash it would of happened by now, if it does happen it's planned because the country and the world in general is bankrupt, the only reason china would dump the dollar is because the rmb, hk dollar is pegged to the us dollar so when the dollar takes a hit so does china's worth


you are missinformed

[el scampio]

the reason the chinese haven't dumped the dollar yet (from what i can make out) is because the opec countries also have a vast surplus of dollars too. if china were to dump the dollar then the arab countries would also be in great trouble. I read somewhere (sorry cant remember where) that china are hugely reliant on arab oil and therefore opec has warned china any move to weaken the dollar would mean they would not be supplied oil. so everyone seems to be in a catch 22

i made a post in another thread as to the real reason the usa would attack iran here is the link to the article, sort of goes along with my dollar protection theory, and possibly also the future oil trading currency

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html

i hope you are wrong about world war what a scary prospect.

here is another link for a bottle that filters any water into drinking water, it is expensive but probably worth every penny. stock piling water is an expensive and space consuming thing. also if you have to move quickly you can carry this very easily.

http://www.lifesaversystems.com/buy.html

ps it is nice to be in a place where people are like minded i feel very alone when it comes to talking about these subjects

Thanks for the link about the water bottle.

Can I ask about your other link. Do you know how much oil is currently being traded in Euro % wise? I know Russia and Iran and I think others (Norway maybe) trade a small % of its crude oil in Euro's.

[jackassjoiner]

i am not sure about global trade, but iran now say they trade up to 90% of their crude in either euros or yen.

www.luc.edu/orgs/meea/volume6/massood.pdf

haven't read this myself yet but thought it looked like it should be read

[lightworks]

yeh same here well i dont know as much as id like to.

As david icke explains very simply in his books.

money is printed as debt, the ammount of physical cash in circulation determines the exchange rates which in turn determines the stock markets etc the money in circulation is determined by the banks which are controlled by the elites. the more we use digital/online money by use our cards etc this money then gets taken out of circulation.

have you noticed recently we are going into a depression, soon to be a major market crash, and high street stores are still encouraging people to buy buy buy and our local councils (especially in edinburgh) are encouaged to spend spend spend on tings we do not need this drastically affects the money in circulation further increasing debt. the banks can recall ours debts anytime they like especially during a market crash or war, when this happens and you cannot pay them back you will have your house and possesions taken and you will be taken to court probably arrested this time around etcetc

as for china their companies invest huge ammounts into corporations and companies especially providing natural resources such as coal and oil and like the banks they can recall their debts anytime they like. if china does this (also japan, i feel an "earthquake" caused by haarp wil happen in japan and cripple their economy and they will have to recall their loans to countries etc in particular america) then it will greatly affect us ALL no matter where you are, money (which it already is) will be worth nothing and will not get us anything just like during nazi germany when people were using money as toilet paper and being everywhere in the streets etc

i suggest, if you can, investin in gold. even then preparing f0r the coming war by investing in survival kits and and food supplies.

this will happen in the next couple of months if not this month im sorry to say. the mental thing is 3 years ago I said to my mates this would happened and that the war on russia would begin on the 08/08/08 to name a few "predictions" (just using common sense and hard investigating) and guess what they all said t me ? shut up gareth with your conspiracy bull shit, now especially in the last week they are doing their own homework and coming to me for advice etc (which i greatly appreciate)

anyway sorry back to the point, im pretty sure that was a very basic description of how the system works etc would appreciate corrections or highlights tho :)

one thing thats for sure we will witness this in the next month or so. just look at the big picture step back take a breath and see the emerging pattern in the worlds economy etc. its fucked.
evrybody needs to get super physically fit....and learn realistic self defence ...,thats what all the goons in uniform learn...be careful;

[jackassjoiner]

evrybody needs to get super physically fit....and learn realistic self defence ...,thats what all the goons in uniform learn...be careful;

yeah man and buy one of these bad boys, i am going too

http://www.bestcrossbows.co.uk/product-p/wildcat-black.htm

[lightworks]

yeah man and buy one of these bad boys, i am going too

http://www.bestcrossbows.co.uk/product-p/wildcat-black.htm
jackass or Mr jackass...or do I call you Mr jack .....lol ass aka jack lol

[entrangermercenary]

evrybody needs to get super physically fit....and learn realistic self defence ...,thats what all the goons in uniform learn...be careful;

Being physically fit would help you war or no war thats just a general life requisite.

"self defence...,thats what all the goons in uniform learn"

What all us goons learn is how to survive , conceal, observe and kill. The chances of you being in an unarmed combat situation 1 on 1 in a combat zone is nearly zero. You do the most damage you can in the minimum amount of time using whatever is at hand, if no weapons 2 hand uve got teeth and nails.
In a time of nuclear conflict there will be no law you must do what you can to survive.There will be no goverment, ( all the NWO in there bunkers) V little comms , if any at all , so you will be on your own.

You must and I repeat MUST get weapons as soon as you can after the conflict starts wether it be shotguns ,rifles or even better millitary.FFS how do you do that I hear you ask.This is how it works in conflict, weapons appear and are traded, now this is a real situation of what I personally did in a capital in Europe in 1992... I traded 8 HANDGRENADES and 2 AK47s for 8 rucksacks in a scout shop, yes a fucking SCOUT shop:D We had plenty of small weapons but not much kit.The availability of weapons over weeks and months grew and grew in the general population so in fact for a while weapons became a currency for exchange of goods and if they said no you could always shoot them:eek: When you go out on a Friday or Sat and you hand your coats into the cloakroom.FACT When we went out we handed in our sidearms, long weapons and grenades to the cloakroom.
A lot of people are in for a major shock on this forum if it does kick off, for you who have never experienced warfare or working "outside normal human attitudes" I hope you adapt quick.I would advise all of you who think war is immeniant to get the SAS survival handbook its a gem, fits in the pocket and will serve you all well.
And remember when a scout comes bob or jobbing the little fucker might be armed, so give him a job :p
GOOD LUCK FOR THE FUTURE

[jesta_g]

evrybody needs to get super physically fit....and learn realistic self defence ...,thats what all the goons in uniform learn...be careful;



yes very true, however i have plans for being in the highlands of scotland when the shit goes down. i am indeed learning self defence, improving my physical state and increasing my immune system (most important in my opinion). I do not aim for conflict i just aim to protect my child, loved ones and anyone near who needs it. if push come to shove I will seriously harm anyone that threatens the safety of my child (never kill,not even a reptilian , sorry my opinion)

anyway I hate talkin about macho man bull shit even tho it nessasary in this case. I have all respect for what any military or anyone for that matter will do to protect themselves. especially in a state of emergency .

tough conversation but i suppose it has to be brought to light. I hope no one has to go through with tho it seems very likely very soon.

[jesta_g]

Whats the solution ? World War ? I mean obviously they will have to resort to that, Ideally people would start trading in food and clothes and building equipment or whatever and scrap the money, but is it heading to World war ?

But who controls the wrold bank who gave us the statistics ? America ? if it was, then America can control everything ? The NWO favour America, not the other countries,



War is enevitable, apart from religion it is the biggest money provider in the world, in this case even if the stock markets dont crash they are going to war for multiple reasons the biggest id say is Depopulation and the massive shift in global power. it is indeed heading to world war this was planned in the late 1800's.

the highest elites controls the banks , rothschilds etc however they are also following orders from the jesuits (the vatican) ,whom i believe are just below the big cheese. as David icke and many others have said britian owns america , the war of independance was for shifting power and moving from overt to covert control ( a game plan that has been used throughout history). even then britian is also under "maritime " law which means it is owned by the vatican. there is no country favoured, these are beings (reptilian or not) who are not even from this planet getting ready to jump ship or reveal ultimate tyranny. if any place is favoured it is switzerland , untouched by war and all the head banks and high up science facilities/unversities are there.

Stelios your post is a great bit of info :) thank you, greatly adds to the picture.

Seanie you are very right in sayin the slate has to be wiped clean. money is irrelevant now there will be something new soon. i watched an interview with a great man called george green and he mentions that he has invested his money in the "new currency" which is gold or some form of it, it had "gold" in its name. until this new currency, will it even bee for us?, we are going to have to survive by our own skills and each others trust and support. its going to be a very rocky road ahead, VERY.

jackass joiner yu also make a very good point about the dollar not being dropped however is there anyword on the "Amero" and the North american union? (similar to the EU)

great information and convos guys :)

[stelios]

Whats the solution ? World War ? I mean obviously they will have to resort to that, Ideally people would start trading in food and clothes and building equipment or whatever and scrap the money, but is it heading to World war ?

But who controls the world bank who gave us the statistics ? America ? if it was, then America can control everything ? The NWO favour America, not the other countries,


What happens is most wealth in the world is controlled by the illuminati but not everything. so what they do is create crisis regularly. Boom and bust. Crash the markets then buy up the bankrupt companies and assetts at rock bottom prices.
There will not be a world war III simply a continuation of the never ending wars that started with the Rothschilds back in the eighteenth century.
Think about it. every US president has attacked countries and engaged in wars.
Whether the next invasion is Iran or Sudan or the zionists persuade Ukraine to start a genocide against it's Russian citizens, there will certainly be never ending wars.

Because all these financial turmoils happen to plan a script written long ago with the formation of the illuminati and later in the Protocols of Zion.

PROTOCOL No. 7
1. The intensification of armaments, the increase of police forces - are all essential for the completion of the aforementioned plans. What we have to get at is that there should be in all the States of the world, besides ourselves, only the masses of the proletariat, a few millionaires devoted to our interests, police and soldiers.

2. Throughout all Europe, and by means of relations with Europe, in other continents also, we must create ferments, discords and hostility. Therein we gain a double advantage. In the first place we keep in check all countries, for they will know that we have the power whenever we like to create disorders or to restore order. All these countries are accustomed to see in us an indispensable force of coercion. In the second place, by our intrigues we shall tangle up all the threads which we have stretched into the cabinets of all States by means of the political, by economic treaties, or loan obligations. In order to succeed in this we must use great cunning and penetration during negotiations and agreements, but, as regards what is called the "official language," we shall keep to the opposite tactics and assume the mask of honesty and complacency. In this way the peoples and governments of the GOYIM, whom we have taught to look only at the outside whatever we present to their notice, will still continue to accept us as the benefactors and saviours of the human race.

UNIVERSAL WAR
3. We must be in a position to respond to every act of opposition by war with the neighbors of that country which dares to oppose us: but if these neighbors should also venture to stand collectively together against us, then we must offer resistance by a universal war.

4. The principal factor of success in the political is the secrecy of its undertakings: the word should not agree with the deeds of the diplomat.

5. We must compel the governments of the GOYIM to take action in the direction favored by our widely conceived plan, already approaching the desired consummation, by what we shall represent as public opinion, secretly promoted by us through the means of that so-called "Great Power" - THE PRESS, WHICH, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS THAT MAY BE DISREGARDED, IS ALREADY ENTIRELY IN OUR HANDS.

6. In a word, to sum up our system of keeping the governments of the goyim in Europe in check, we shall show our strength to one of them by terrorist attempts and to all, if we allow the possibility of a general rising against us, we shall respond with the guns of America or China or Japan.

[lizzy]

Time to those long term 'puts' in place....( not really buy food , supplies )

...but for a quick laugh....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YJOVqxhUGz8

[entrangermercenary]

JESTER Gyes very true, however i have plans for being in the highlands of scotland when the shit goes down. i am indeed learning self defence, improving my physical state and increasing my immune system (most important in my opinion). I do not aim for conflict i just aim to protect my child, loved ones and anyone near who needs it. if push come to shove I will seriously harm anyone that threatens the safety of my child (never kill,not even a reptilian , sorry my opinion

Please could you tell me what you mean by "seriously harm anyone". Will you stab them, shoot them in the legs , or just break a arm and leg? Im not having a go at you m8 but this is the attitude I mean about a shock for some people. I can tell you when the mad axeman ( or women dont want to b sexist:D) is running at you are you seriously telling me you are not going to take him out? Its a natural human reaction to protect yourself and even more if your family is involved. Good luck in the highlands nice place :) PM me if u want any advice

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JESTER G

Please could you tell me what you mean by "seriously harm anyone". Will you stab them, shoot them in the legs , or just break a arm and leg? Im not having a go at you m8 but this is the attitude I mean about a shock for some people. I can tell you when the mad axeman ( or women dont want to b sexist:D) is running at you are you seriously telling me you are not going to take him out? Its a natural human reaction to protect yourself and even more if your family is involved. Good luck in the highlands nice place :) PM me if u want any advice


no offence taken at all mate, yes you are very right , i will not know until the situation ever cropped up. in the time being yes ill take anyone out as in break a few bones & or knock the fucker out, luckily I know how to handle my self.

ill indeed contact you for advice. In fact I was hoping to get help posting a thread on what one needs for a survival kit, personally i know all the essentials however it would be good to round up everyones opinions/suggestins on equipment and supplies. mostly for thos may not know.
times coming when everyone will need to be prepared, as i said on another thread ill have mine and my families survival kit started and ready within this month. theres a storm a brewing.