Organic food sales down 20 %

[largejack]

Organic food sales are down 20 % which is proof the recession is biting as people are forced to replace good quality safe food in favour of the deadly shite they want us to eat leading inevitably down the slippery slope to GM.:mad:

Just a co-incidence, nothing to worry about:rolleyes:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=451191&in_page_id=2

[bario]

I'll bet that the figures came from the major supermarkets. I wonder what the results would look like if they included all of the farm shops and organic veg box companies.

I don't understand how people can say that organic is more expensive. I switched from shopping at supermarkets to using an local organic delivery service and my monthly food bill dropped by about £100.

[endlessvista]

Grow your own veg - you can produce a collosal amount of food even in a small backgarden. That's if you haven't filled with with bricks, paving and waterfeatures after swooning over Charlie's Nipples on Ground Force with the other sheeple and robbed yourself of the most useful asset of your house next to the roof over your head.

You try eating oramental gravel and plastic water pumps.

I was looking at a book published in WW2 to teach suburbanites how to grow their own veg. It constantly harped on about how much food can be grown even in a small plot or garden and so easy to do etc. Even had a whole section on wild foods and using old tin cans for germination pots and keeping carp in tanks and ponds.

As soon as the war ended we were bombarded with half a decade of "food is hard to grow!!!...wildfoods extremely dangerous if you are not sure what you are doing!!!!...and you need tons of chemicals..."

You do not need to buy organic if you have a place to grow it. But if you have no choice always support small producers and growers if possible. And you can always pick strawberries, nettles, dandiloin and fungi etc no matter where you live.

We are not as helpless as they tell us we are.

[bario]

You do not need to buy organic if you have a place to grow it. But if you have no choice always support small producers and growers if possible. And you can always pick strawberries, nettles, dandiloin and fungi etc no matter where you live.

Thats my problem at the moment, I rent and have a shared garden that I can't grow in. Also having no south facing windows limits how well things will grow inside. There are plenty of raspberry buses, nettles and wild garlic around here so that makes up for it slightly.

[sukyspook]

Woe betide anyone who wants to eat 'real', natural food......

Another war on 'organic food'. These 'people' have every avenue covered.

I don't swear if I can avoid it - but i'll make an exception.

These people/entities are B A S T A R D S.

We must do everything we believe to be right for ourselves, our families, our neighbours/friends/countrymen and our fellow human beings around the entire planet.....

[sebastian]

Grow your own veg - you can produce a collosal amount of food even in a small backgarden. That's if you haven't filled with with bricks, paving and waterfeatures after swooning over Charlie's Nipples on Ground Force with the other sheeple and robbed yourself of the most useful asset of your house next to the roof over your head.

You try eating oramental gravel and plastic water pumps.

I was looking at a book published in WW2 to teach suburbanites how to grow their own veg. It constantly harped on about how much food can be grown even in a small plot or garden and so easy to do etc. Even had a whole section on wild foods and using old tin cans for germination pots and keeping carp in tanks and ponds.

As soon as the war ended we were bombarded with half a decade of "food is hard to grow!!!...wildfoods extremely dangerous if you are not sure what you are doing!!!!...and you need tons of chemicals..."

You do not need to buy organic if you have a place to grow it. But if you have no choice always support small producers and growers if possible. And you can always pick strawberries, nettles, dandiloin and fungi etc no matter where you live.

We are not as helpless as they tell us we are.

:p

[phaid]

I had a go at growing my own veg in compost-filled bags out on my patio this year but the bastard slugs 'n' snails got past the copper strips I'd taped round the bags and ate the shoots 'n' tops anyway.
:mad:

[homebrew1973]

The last three organic foodstuffs I bought were rather cheap actually; 29p per bag of 500g pasta, 49p for a box of cornflakes and 25p for chocolate biccies.

That said though supermarkets do for the most part charge over-the-odds for organic food as well as freetrade items. I`m thinking of looking into getting an allotment to grow fruit for wine-making purposes :D

[sukyspook]

Grow your own veg - you can produce a collosal amount of food even in a small backgarden. That's if you haven't filled with with bricks, paving and waterfeatures after swooning over Charlie's Nipples on Ground Force with the other sheeple and robbed yourself of the most useful asset of your house next to the roof over your head.

You try eating oramental gravel and plastic water pumps.

I was looking at a book published in WW2 to teach suburbanites how to grow their own veg. It constantly harped on about how much food can be grown even in a small plot or garden and so easy to do etc. Even had a whole section on wild foods and using old tin cans for germination pots and keeping carp in tanks and ponds.

As soon as the war ended we were bombarded with half a decade of "food is hard to grow!!!...wildfoods extremely dangerous if you are not sure what you are doing!!!!...and you need tons of chemicals..."

You do not need to buy organic if you have a place to grow it. But if you have no choice always support small producers and growers if possible. And you can always pick strawberries, nettles, dandiloin and fungi etc no matter where you live.



We are not as helpless as they tell us we are.

....but that's what 'they' like to make us think we are endlessvista....

Instead of growing loads of plants in the garden, I grow veg.

This year I have tons of courgettes - very easy.

Carrots - not so easy but trying them in pots again....

Broccoli - very easy but watch for the butterflies morning and evening, pick off their eggs so the caterpillars don't create lace curtains from the leaves....

Sprouts - butterfly/caterpillars need shooshing and removing....can't wait to eat them in the festive season - sprouts that is, not caterpillars...

Tomatoes - I've got 3 varieties and only 1 naturally reddened tomato so far...they're all going to ripen all at once and I'll have to give them away again...sigh

Potatoes - I grow them in pots as they take over the open ground. Very easy but require a bit of digging each week to cover the emerging growth. 3 varieties - delicious new ones and bakings too.....

Lettuce - extremely easy and will see you right through the summer into Oct/Nov if it's mild.

Peppers - not so successful with these this year but I'll try again next year.

Green beans - found them better germinated outside than in. No strings attached - delicious, even raw mmmmm

Cauliflowers - I only grew 3 this year but they were beautiful with cheese sauce. Same probs as broccoli and sprouts with butterflies and caterpillars, little buggers.

So you see, if I can do it - so can you....

I'm completely fed up with 'the system' promising to take care of me and then dumping me all by design......

[lightgiver]

All this food crisis being created is just an excuse for the elites to push there GM agenda into the public arena,to make it more acceptable to everyone,another nail in the coffin for freedom,total control of the food chain:eek:everyone needs to fight this agenda,it is to serious to ignore GM crops are not good for humans or the planet,like people on here say grow your own,avoid buying any gm products,you would be surprised if you read some of the labels on food products how much gm is out there,they are already pushing this dangerous stuff into the public domain without most people realizing its in quite a lot of things.
so resist and fight this nwo plan for control of the food chain,also these companys what make this stuff will not allow farmers to keep any seeds,so they have to keep purchasing off the manufacturers of these gm seeds,so that tells you what is going on,its a travesty,lets hope they do not get away with it.;)

[ownedtbh]

I had a go at growing my own veg in compost-filled bags out on my patio this year but the bastard slugs 'n' snails got past the copper strips I'd taped round the bags and ate the shoots 'n' tops anyway.
:mad:

put some mantids in there wid the veg :p

[bario]

All this food crisis

To be honest I've not really noticed a food crisis, my food bills are cheaper than ever. The same goes for my power bills, cheapest in 3 years. The credit crunch is a lie and the scary thing is that people believe it.

[dangermouse]

To be honest I've not really noticed a food crisis, my food bills are cheaper than ever. The same goes for my power bills, cheapest in 3 years. The credit crunch is a lie and the scary thing is that people believe it.

where exactly do you live? :P i may move :D

[devanshoom]

To be honest I've not really noticed a food crisis, my food bills are cheaper than ever. The same goes for my power bills, cheapest in 3 years. The credit crunch is a lie and the scary thing is that people believe it.

im in vietnam, have been for 3 years, and the cost of food here is probably 30 or 40% more than when i got here......3 years ago. Petrol is up by 100% since i got here. Even a fucking haircut has nearly doubled. And this is in the land that kicked illuminati arse. I thought a place like vietnam would have been self sufficient and immune to what is happening elsewhere on the planet...sems i am wrong. I dont know, but i guess vietnam joining the WTO in 2007 may have left the place wide open for manipulation.

I dont know why I moan about the NWO...I'm living in a fucking police state already. Living here by choice, i might add. But then at least there are no cameras everywhere, and i can buy a bag of grass no probs. Try doing that in THAILAND and you get excecuted.

I am trying to arrange for loose change to be translated into vietnamese and plan to give it to absolutely everyone. other documentaries to follow. problem is that the language on NWO videos is way technical and sophisticated.... trying to find someone (that doesnt cost a fortune) who's english is up to the job is not easy.

[lightgiver]

To be honest I've not really noticed a food crisis, my food bills are cheaper than ever. The same goes for my power bills, cheapest in 3 years. The credit crunch is a lie and the scary thing is that people believe it.

i to do not think there is a food crisis,it is being created by the powers to be to push there bigger agendas;)that's what i am getting at,but i have noticed where i live food prices have gone up considerably and the rest of it,but i do grow a bit of my own and i do not have extravagant trappings ,i live quite a simple existence,so i fair ok,considering a lot of the globe live in abject poverty so i cant complain only on the behalf of the less fortunate than me,and that's why i feel strongly of the corruption going on around us.

and yes this credit crunch is peoples fault for buying into the scam of borrowing non existent money and the greedy designs of the banking elite,so they have only them selves to blame,but the ones who pay the price are less well off,but to me its a game but an evil one as people,animals and the planet suffer in the process.
after all they have been at it for thousands of years;)

by the way what power supply are you on,or do you use candles,i was thinking of going solar but here in north western europe they would not work due to lack of sun;)if you had rain power technology you would have abundant energy,so i am considering going wind when i can afford it,so that may keep the extortionate energy bills down:D
either that or move somewhere hot and sunny and cover my roof with solar panels,but then if you move somewhere hot you may have water supply problems;)what is one to do,just sit it out and hope for the best:D:D
and look at the money you could save on water bills if all homes had water retaining equipment installed,for toilet and bathing use,and if you are really clever for drinking as well, save a fortune,after all we get enough rain here.

EVERYTHING SHOULD BE ORGANIC.

[bario]

where exactly do you live? :P i may move :D

We live just outside edinburgh, we buy from a local farm and avoid using gas and electricity as much as possible.

From the moment the credit crunch appeared in the media, I mocked it, maybe thats why we seem fine, some people think that things only exist if you believe in them, I'm not too sure about the belief but it's worth pointing out.

[krakhead]

We live just outside edinburgh, we buy from a local farm and avoid using gas and electricity as much as possible.

From the moment the credit crunch appeared in the media, I mocked it, maybe thats why we seem fine, some people think that things only exist if you believe in them, I'm not too sure about the belief but it's worth pointing out.

That doesn't count! ;)

I paid £1.54 for a loaf of bread today btw! :eek:

World's gorn mad! :p

[bario]

That doesn't count! ;)

I paid £1.54 for a loaf of bread today btw! :eek:

World's gorn mad! :p

How much would it cost for you to bake your own?

[endlessvista]

How much would it cost for you to bake your own?

I worked it out the other day. You can bake a loaf of bread for about 2 cent and make enough pasta for a dinner for about 0.5 cent.

Scary isn't it. Currently I am developing the 10 cent homemade 9 " pizza. I'll do it too!

[homebrew1973]

How much would it cost for you to bake your own?
You beat me to it ;) A bag of strong flour can still be got for less than 50p, a tub of yeast for less than £1 and a breadmaker for depending on your choice, mine`s a good one and cost £25. And it`s great having your place smelling like a bakery :)

But over £1.50 for a loaf?? :eek: Ye gods.

[endlessvista]

I am surprised people who live in tower blocks and apartment building are not encouraged to develop veg gardens on the roof more.

[homebrew1973]

I am surprised people who live in tower blocks and apartment building are not encouraged to develop veg gardens on the roof more.
I`m one of such people that lives in a tower block and the housing authority here simply couldn`t give a shit about us (except when you owe them money or want you to spy on other people and report them for drug dealing etc :mad:). But not only that but also pigeons flock here like you wouldn`t believe :mad: I used to have a net on my balcony to keep them out but the elements got rid of it so now it`s rat traps to get rid of pigeons :D

A herb garden inside my kitchen balcony as it faces south sounds a good idea though.

[endlessvista]

A herb garden inside my kitchen balcony as it faces south sounds a good idea though.

Then you should be able to grow tomatoes on the balcony too in grow bags. Worth a try next summer.

[largejack]

Grow your own veg - you can produce a collosal amount of food even in a small backgarden. That's if you haven't filled with with bricks, paving and waterfeatures after swooning over Charlie's Nipples on Ground Force with the other sheeple and robbed yourself of the most useful asset of your house next to the roof over your head.

You try eating oramental gravel and plastic water pumps.

I was looking at a book published in WW2 to teach suburbanites how to grow their own veg. It constantly harped on about how much food can be grown even in a small plot or garden and so easy to do etc. Even had a whole section on wild foods and using old tin cans for germination pots and keeping carp in tanks and ponds.

As soon as the war ended we were bombarded with half a decade of "food is hard to grow!!!...wildfoods extremely dangerous if you are not sure what you are doing!!!!...and you need tons of chemicals..."

You do not need to buy organic if you have a place to grow it. But if you have no choice always support small producers and growers if possible. And you can always pick strawberries, nettles, dandiloin and fungi etc no matter where you live.

We are not as helpless as they tell us we are.

Don't forget brambles, they're delicious this time of year:)

[homebrew1973]

Don't forget brambles, they're delicious this time of year:)
There`s loads of bramble bushes round my way, trouble is other people always beat me to them :(

[largejack]

....but that's what 'they' like to make us think we are endlessvista....

Instead of growing loads of plants in the garden, I grow veg.

This year I have tons of courgettes - very easy.

Carrots - not so easy but trying them in pots again....

Broccoli - very easy but watch for the butterflies morning and evening, pick off their eggs so the caterpillars don't create lace curtains from the leaves....

Sprouts - butterfly/caterpillars need shooshing and removing....can't wait to eat them in the festive season - sprouts that is, not caterpillars...

Tomatoes - I've got 3 varieties and only 1 naturally reddened tomato so far...they're all going to ripen all at once and I'll have to give them away again...sigh

Potatoes - I grow them in pots as they take over the open ground. Very easy but require a bit of digging each week to cover the emerging growth. 3 varieties - delicious new ones and bakings too.....

Lettuce - extremely easy and will see you right through the summer into Oct/Nov if it's mild.

Peppers - not so successful with these this year but I'll try again next year.

Green beans - found them better germinated outside than in. No strings attached - delicious, even raw mmmmm

Cauliflowers - I only grew 3 this year but they were beautiful with cheese sauce. Same probs as broccoli and sprouts with butterflies and caterpillars, little buggers.

So you see, if I can do it - so can you....

I'm completely fed up with 'the system' promising to take care of me and then dumping me all by design......

We're also thinking of growing our own veg. I love eating and drinking ;) stuff I've made myself. I have an idea section in the garden, problem is though the soil is like clay :( . Would I need to buy heaps of new soil?