Do You Regret 'Waking Up'?

[bicycle]

?

[duckingdafta]

over the last few months.. very often. at first it was exciting and almost good to find bad news was real

I'm not even sure I'm on the right path for wakening up!.. just going with the flow.

[jojo]

?

no chance!

[thirdwave]

A "Sometimes" option would have been my first answer... but I chose no.

[dmt head]

When I first got into the whole conspiracy stuff it was a bit much, the lizards freaked me out and loads of things made me angry and sometimes I wished I didnt know about half the stuff, like after reading my first icke book, children of the matrix part of me wished id not read it and maybe itd be better living in ignorance, now im happy about it tbh

[mcthompson2x]

Absolutely not! It was scary at first but I'm finding that the further down the rabbit hole you go, the more you understand there is absolutely nothing to be afraid of and everything to be excited about.

Pain and suffering can be very real, to people who choose to indulge in such ideas. I refuse however to worry about anything - people can say what they like about that, but it's the only way to be at peace. Someone can come and "kill" me tomorrow - big deal. There is no end in sight.

[steevo]

Sometimes I can feel like a massive weight on my shoulders because of this knowledge but that is probably just because the MAJORITY are still asleep, and that can make life quite lonely, and it feels like a burden at times. That's why god gave us shoulders :) But no I dont regret waking up. I feel privileged somehow, but I want EVERYONE to have the same priviledge.

I mean, how can we regret waking up when the alternative, living a lie, is not REALLY living, is it ? Knowing the "truth" makes me feel comfortable about the direction my life needs to go in. Before I "woke up" I didnt know who the hell I was.

[redman]

Nah, I think we all need to make sure we all start using the information positively. Help each other with idea's and if any of us are having a hard time dealing with life in general, especially now that you have the burden of knowing what the fuck is going on, then make sure that everyone knows that they can just PM someone.

We are all in the same boat, so at least that's a comforting thought.


I was actually thinking the other day, imagine suffering from severe depression before you woke up to all this shit and then you stumbled across the information, I think then it would really effect you in a bad way. But fuck it I say.... just let's see what happens and help each other.


All positive vibes baby... it's the only way to actually use the information in good way.

[niall]

No way. Its good to know the truth.

[redman]

Sometimes I can feel like a massive weight on my shoulders because of this knowledge but that is probably just because the MAJORITY are still asleep, and that can make life quite lonely, and it feels like a burden at times. That's why god gave us shoulders :) But no I dont regret waking up. I feel privileged somehow, but I want EVERYONE to have the same priviledge.

I mean, how can we regret waking up when the alternative, living a lie, is not REALLY living, is it ? Knowing the "truth" makes me feel comfortable about the direction my life needs to go in. Before I "woke up" I didnt know who the hell I was.

Definitely... it's made me put things into perspective and really made me focus on the things I have always wanted to do.

Which, I will be doing one by one. I have made it my mission to.

[lookfar]

Nope, not at all. It's always good to learn & I believe we're constantly doing that with whatever direction we choose to go at any given moment...:)

[nessa felagund]

No, I don't regret it. The truth really does set us free. :)

[biblegirl]

:(
I regret that there are innocent people enduring torture, and suffering (mind control, abductions, sacrifice etc.), and sometimes I wish I did not know about them. It disturbs my soul deeply to be aware of those and I feel helpless about it. I know most of us consider ourselves slaves to this global system to some degree, but when we are able to sit at our computers and type about it, it means we have gotten off much better than those poor souls who never had a chance.

Overall, my vote is no, but it would be more accurate to say "sometimes".

[w1nstonsm1th84]

:(
I regret that there are innocent people enduring torture, and suffering (mind control, abductions, sacrifice etc.), and sometimes I wish I did not know about them. It disturbs my soul deeply to be aware of those and I feel helpless about it. I know most of us consider ourselves slaves to this global system to some degree, but when we are able to sit at our computers and type about it, it means we have gotten off much better than those poor souls who never had a chance.

Overall, my vote is no, but it would be more accurate to say "sometimes".

Good posting, I feel exactly the same way. :)

[harris999]

Used too, but not anymore :P

[steevo]

In my opinion, the phrase "waking up" means "realisation" and we are all (everyone) at a particular stage/point in our awakening, maybe like climbing rungs on a ladder ?

[knockoutgorilla]

what sadness me about the whole thing is looking around and knowing that the majority of people will never wakeup,friends and family will stumble blindly toward's there own end and the sad thing is that they will think its for there best interest.

[planetsadhana]

its the only way to be ....people are changing and waking up , i think the big thing is now just keeping the momentum up accepting our different views

People at work are now coming to me and asking questions you can almost see the little shifts

I explained to somebody yesterday that we are being run by pychopaths...i pointed out that to send out people to murder innocent victims like in Iraq is the hallmark of a pychopath...you could allmost see the penny drop when they suddenly realised that no matter what excuse "their" government was guilty of murder...when you grasp someting aint right the seed is sown

I keep saying love is the answer they all think im bonkers:D

[the om]

Not under any circumstances. My spiritual Awakening pulled me out of a deep level of depression, and brought me up to a field where that tune 'Here Comes the Sun' was playing.
:D

[chris]

When the shit hits the fan, most of us will be psychologically prepared

[hashmcgandy]

No regrets with regard to my own 'waking up', which took place when I was still at school and suddenly realised that my Religious Education teacher knew less about religion that I did.

My only regret now is my repeated inability to awaken my parents or the rest of my family who continue to think that having huge mortgages and paying insurance premiums qualify them to judge my unconventional views.

[chris]

My only regret now is my repeated inability to awaken my parents or the rest of my family who continue to think that having huge mortgages and paying insurance premiums qualify them to judge my unconventional views.

Skip family...They have been conditioned against you.

Don't be discouraged, if you don't like confrontation, get some leaflets and post a hundred a week...When you wake one person up, he'll wake up several more...You'll wake up thousands this way and there's no need for confrontation, you don't even need to do it near where you live...Do it the town next to you. But don't waste your time on your family.

[krakhead]

Never! Bring it on! My reality tunnel could always do with do widening! :)

[w1nstonsm1th84]

Skip family...

Hmmm... I wouldn't dream of telling my family, it would be quite pointless, and I wouldn't wish to destroy their lives anyway. :)

[zarah]

I sometimes regret it. Sometimes I wanna just 'be'...like watch tv, read magazines and newspapers and all that stuff without knowing there's attempts to manipulate my thinking at every turn. Most of the time though I'm glad to be equipping myself with knowledge.

[kingmonkey]

To be happy and content in a world where Jack Osbourne has an autobiography out is complete insanity; so no, I don't regret it.My misery is a mark of my sanity! :D

[steevo]

Hmmm... I wouldn't dream of telling my family, it would be quite pointless, and I wouldn't wish to destroy their lives anyway. :)

I know what you mean when you say that you dont want to destroy the lives of your family by giving them this information. Luckily the ones in my family who I have told (like mum and dad) are already aware (cos they have been on the "ride" for much longer than us younger ones) and they agree with what I said to them and they even expanded on it :)

[gorana]

When the shit hits the fan, most of us will be psychologically prepared

Right Chris, more or less we will be.

Well, for me there are days when i wish i would be unwaken, to be just "normal guy" fighting his way up the leaders.

But these days are rare... really rare... 1 or 2 in 3 months.

So yes, i'm happy that i'm Waken up :)

G.

[auroral_iris]

you need a sort of , sometimes , or kind of choice because i dont really know..it's made me quite antisocial

[tusme]

NO! ;)

It's what my existence was destined for...!! :p

Thankfully, with this "waking up", there's no more, going back to sleep...! :D

[lottie]

you need a sort of , sometimes , or kind of choice because i dont really know..it's made me quite antisocial

Yes, me too! Im ok, i can 'play along' but most of the time i cant wait to leave the company of people who have no idea about whats really happening in the world! I'd rather be on my own.

I dont regret waking up as such, i thrive on the knowledge and understanding ive learned but i think the hardest thing about it all is the frustraton you encounter due to either others not being aware or your inbuilt desire to be 'doing' rather than 'being' which overwhelms you so much so that you forget that just 'being' who you are is all thats required for all this corruption to fall to its knees.
The frustration drives you to feel as though sometimes you didnt know all you know. :)

[lenejento]

I've been having a "bad" day today, and yeah, sometimes this knowledge can feel abit too much. Like someone else mentioned wherever you turn you feel like an attack is being attempted on your mind and it's hard not to get angry/disturbed/tired of it at times. Also the sadness of knowing about the horror in the world and that humanity is being manipulated to inflict such horror upon each other.

Reading some of the posts on this thread really is really uplifting, and I think we need more threads like these, talking about our thoughts and emotions on how this knowledge inflicts us personally and supporting each other. It can sometimes feel like we're all alone, especially when we argue amongst each other.

I was actually quite depressed before I knew of this knowledge and I am glad I didn't stop my search for truth and found it, but I still don't know who I am (least not today :confused:), and I will not be completely settled untill I realise that. That will be a sigh of relief and also when the rest of the people wake up, BIG SIIIIGH!!

I love you.

[pri01]

Hmmm... I wouldn't dream of telling my family, it would be quite pointless, and I wouldn't wish to destroy their lives anyway. :)

Absolutely. I feel gutted for my kids (grown up albeit). My eldest daughter is a breath of fresh air type personality who has over the past year or so taken on a mortgage (death pledge). She is a sensible person though and although she has the mortgage she has no other debt. In my view, people who rent houses also owe a sort of debt (rent), so they are both the same in my op. My youngest kids are just starting college courses and the way I feel right now, their future is uncertain. They (TPTB) really do a good job in preparing happier slaves to accept their fate. Anyone these days who believes that the pension that they have been paying into for the past 15-20 years will benefit them over the next 5 years I think are going to be shocked. I've already told my husband of 27 years to not expect his pension. I really don't think he will get there. I'm paying into one now and I don't know why. It's the conformist side of my character that makes me do this. I'm watching the New Orleans hurricaine with interest and distress. People are being moved out of their homes by the busload. But where too? Will they come back? I very much doubt it. Regret waking up? NO, because when they want to load me and my family on to a bus to safety or accept a vaccine to protect us I will thank them kindly but choose to make my own way.:)

[bicycle]

Ok, who voted Yes? I reckon it was David Icke!

Only kidding:)

[kingmonkey]

Ok, who voted Yes? I reckon it was David Icke!

Only kidding:)

haha! :D

[w1nstonsm1th84]

...Regret waking up? NO, because when they want to load me and my family on to a bus to safety or accept a vaccine to protect us I will thank them kindly but choose to make my own way.:)

:)

I agree about pensions, they were there to get us to the stage where we are now; they have fattened us up for the kill. Any sentient person must be able to see that pensions are becoming a thing of the past. People will have to go to work camps, and if they can't work- they won't eat. :-/ I'd certainly rather be 'awake', but most people cannot handle it, therefore we should leave them be.

To forcibly wake someone is tantamount to abuse., and I could imagine it having quite devastating consequences on some people; as their world falls to pieces. :(

[polveirbecker]

I’m so glad that I’m awake as I don’t give too much a monkeys what people think any more. Although I am still a slave to numbers. I can still see a future for my temp life on this planet. I’m just going to get through it with whit and wisdom.

I’m already doing a lot better than what I should have been doing and I believe that the very best is ahead of me. Its just a case of riding the smooth with the rough. At the moment I’ve expressed my rough in the wrong way by been too reliant on others. In future when I’m in a not so good mood I will just do one of my lists or videos. That keeps me content for now!

[jos08]

awake? I have not met anyone who has been awaken.. we are trying to be awaken, but other than that just because you think our leaders are bad or whatever that doesn't mean that you are awake.

[lightgiver]

NO NO NO Love being awake,trouble is i need to be more awake ;):D:D

[thenightmare]

My life has been different after reading "The Biggest Secret" but i dont regret it. I have learned a lot about this world. I see it in a different view than i used to. I had some disagreements when i try to discuss it with friends and i get laughed at a few times but i feel better. I know more about who i am. I am more aware of what is really going on in my life and it feels good to have some control over it. I thank everyone on this for helping not feel all alone. Best site ever!:)

[phonicboom]

no one could regret being truly awake. :)

just take care to note that "awake" to the political manipulation is NOT the same as "awake" spiritually.

the terms have unfortunately mixed.

Awake to manipulation is still lost. awake spiritually is clarity.

[none]

I was told before I took this path, that nothing would ever be the same again and that my cosy view of the world would be shattered. I chose to take the path nonetheless and the person who 'warned' me was 100% correct. Knowing what I do has distanced me from a plot of people who, I feel, treat me like I’m some sort of ..... *hmm .... what's the word*.... nutter?/crank?. people who I was 'on an even keel' with before I started reading the books I read now ...... They say that "it's all so far fetched" and that "it's all nonsense" and "why do I believe all this stuff?". I say that what they should be asking is, "Why does **** (someone they regard(ed) as a friend) believe what he now believes is going on?" "Is there anything in what **** believes?" "Should I look into what he says and is reading and see/read for myself if there is anything in any of it?", but they don't, they just switch off and carry on telling me that I am paranoid, or that it's all too far fetched etc....
I am lucky that my partner is open minded enough to read some of it and can see where I am coming from and (to a certain extent) agrees with a lot of it. Also I am lucky that my brother has arrived at a lot of the same conclusions about the world, albeit from a very different path.
So.... do I regret 'waking up'?
No I don't regret it, but, it has made life very different for me and to a certain extent a bit lonely (as I have not truly 'woken up' properly yet and am still struggling to grasp a lot of the concepts).
Regret? No. But neither am I happy to know what I now know, although, I am happy to know the truth, the truth does not make me happy (that makes sense in my head).
I need to grasp the 'spiritual' side of things and try not to only concentrate on NWO/Enslavement etc.....

[the infinite one]

Hell NO!!!!!! :D

[darketernal]

Coming from the other direction, having it all thrown in my life from a young age, I would be much happier if I knew none of it.

[lemonique]

Coming from the other direction, having it all thrown in my life from a young age, I would be much happier if I knew none of it.

Big hugs for you Dark Eternal !!

Best
Lemonique

[musti]

of course i regret! do you know how many hours i spend on this forum?! :)

[sukyspook]

Absolutely, positively no regrets whatsoever.

I now have an authentic, spiritually based true human existence and wish I could have been raised as a child to know the Truth about the control of the few over the many on this planet.....

Since I was 8 years old in the 1960's I have 'known' that the world was not what I supposed to believe it was.

Finally, the thing that began my most amazing journey in 2002 - was
"The Biggest Secret" by David Icke.....and the rest, as they say, is history - and bluddy good riddance!!!

[antinwo]

No never I would rather know the real truths:)

[dangermouse]

Definitely no, Although its nice to hit the snooze button now again and watch a good movie or play a video game :p

[alexph777]

No way! After all Knowledge = Power. And I can see a far better and bigger world than before.

Yes, I get lonely and frustrated at times because of not being the club and what I see that I didn't before. And yes I do have more challenges than before and greater weight of responsibility. At the moment I'm starting to face a lot of programming issues that are holding me back - mainly fear.

But to tell the truth I actually feel for those still a sleep or living in ignorance.

Its all part of growing up I guess.

[alexph777]

No regrets with regard to my own 'waking up', which took place when I was still at school and suddenly realised that my Religious Education teacher knew less about religion that I did.

My only regret now is my repeated inability to awaken my parents or the rest of my family who continue to think that having huge mortgages and paying insurance premiums qualify them to judge my unconventional views.

I'm in this same situation to with parents and family. Thanks for posting this.

[clozaril]

of course i regret! do you know how many hours i spend on this forum?! :)

:D


i echo an earlier - post waking up to manipulation is different to waking up spiritually

[pinkgeranium]

First of all I did'nt "wake up"

I was born awake and always thought there was something seriously wrong with me as I always seemed to see things from a differant angle.

I learn't from a very young age to keep my mouth shut in order to try and fit in, I cando good sheep :D

As ive got older ive learnt to have more faith in what i feel instictually and not take it personally that others dont see things for what they are.

I have ofton thought how less complicated life must be if you just coast through it, never thinking deeply about anything or questioning the world around us. Having said that, If I had the choice I would not change the way I am.

I think one of the biggest challenges facing "awake" people is to function in the world without becoming depressed by it.... ie be in it, but not of it. Some days that far easier said than done.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

But to tell the truth I actually feel for those still a sleep or living in ignorance.



I went to visit my relatives last week, and they are very happy indeed; if I 'wake' them, their world would fall apart. Their belief systems would be annihilated, they'd have nothing to hold on to, only fear of 'what's to come'. People should indeed be warned about toxic 'vaccines', and anything else which may have a direct impact upon their health; but you have to be so careful with the knowledge that you possess. Knowledge can indeed be powerful- it can destroy people. :(

Most people cannot handle the truth, but that does not make them 'lesser' people. :)

[pinkgeranium]

no one could regret being truly awake. :)

just take care to note that "awake" to the political manipulation and so on it NOT the same as "awake" spiritually.

the terms have unfortunately mixed.

Awake to manipulation is still lost. awake spiritually is clarity.


Totally agree with you.

Being awake to the political manipulation without a stronge personal sense of spirituallity could be very self destructive.

Without the balancing force of "light", The sheer weight of the "Dark energies" could crush a persons spirit and send them spiraling into despair and depression.

[alexph777]

I went to visit my relatives last week, and they are very happy indeed; if I 'wake' them, their world would fall apart. Their belief systems would be annihilated, they'd have nothing to hold on to, only fear of 'what's to come'. People should indeed be warned about toxic 'vaccines', and anything else which may have a direct impact upon their health; but you have to be so careful with the knowledge that you possess. Knowledge can indeed be powerful- it can destroy people. :(

Most people cannot handle the truth, but that does not make them 'lesser' people. :)

I agree with 100% of what you said. At the moment I haven't really bothered to probe deep with them because of the reasons you mentioned and when I have alittle in the past. Its like just to much and I don't want to create a rift. I guess we need to focus on what we commonly agree on.

I certainly don't want to look down on people with an elitist attitude, that would show how low I am - and of course I have issues of my own that I need to address. We learn from each other.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

I agree with 100% of what you said. At the moment I haven't really bothered to probe deep with them because of the reasons you mentioned and when I have alittle in the past. Its like just to much and I don't want to create a rift. I guess we need to focus on what we commonly agree on.

I certainly don't want to look down on people with an elitist attitude, that would show how low I am - and of course I have issues of my own that I need to address. We learn from each other.

I'm sure you don't look down on people, you seem like a really nice person, but some people do on here (that's why I finished my posting with that final statement). :) Yeah, we all have 'issues'/personality flaws- we're human beings! You have a great attitude, focusing on commonality. :)

Don't be too hard on yourself, no-one's perfect- perish the thought! We can only strive to be the best that we can be- flaws and all! ;)

[teriann]

when I first found out the world was not as it seemed I was devastated and went into a huge depression, couldn't sleep at night. I regretted reading and looking into all this.

Now I am glad I know. we are all privilidged ( sorry if spelt wrong) to know what we do. I just wish I sometimes had someone to talk to about this because apart from this site I know no one else who is awake. My husband won't hear anything about it he says it's too scary.....

[w1nstonsm1th84]

when I first found out the world was not as it seemed I was devastated and went into a huge depression, couldn't sleep at night. I regretted reading and looking into all this.

Now I am glad I know. we are all privilidged ( sorry if spelt wrong) to know what we do. I just wish I sometimes had someone to talk to about this because apart from this site I know no one else who is awake. My husband won't hear anything about it he says it's too scary.....

That can be a problem, my former girlfriend 'woke me up'- back in 1997- she 'drilled' it into my head! :-/

I didn't want to listen at first, but I 'caved in' after a while- her persistence paid off. :D It must be difficult being in a relationship where one of the people doesn't want to know. If he is happy being ignorant of the 'bigger picture', then I suppose you have to let 'sleeping dogs lie'; the information can have such a dramatic impact on someone's life...

[celtic isis]

i voted...

NO

:)

It's always better to know and face the truth, no matter the cost. I've had a life of it so i should know.

[lightworks]

I have always been awake.....and having crossed paths cosmically with stewart swerdlow...osho....davd icke.. and various other great masters of the figthing arts....have only served to sharpen my sleeping awareness..I have always always been crazy and different..crazy in a good way....and the few good friends that do have truly respect that i am a crazy musician as well as being a very disciplined fighter..i dont regret having always been awake andf woken up even more over the past ten years sinceI sarteds going to India to study music...and I have also studied fighting arts a bit....I have had a dream ten years or so ago aboput the massive civil unrest in germany at the g8 summit...I saw german riot polic very clearly in this dream beating protesters very severely and mercilessly...with batons and telescopic batons called asps..there were also one or two police attack dogs present..i often dream about things years before they happen....frequently say what the other person is going to say before they say it.,...I am a little what you might call pyscic though a friend has been recently helping me develop these skills....so no I dfont regret having waking up massively in the past ten years....I have had an awful lot of trouble with the police and police harassment after being at anti war protests and standing outside the houses of parliament when gulf "war" or gulf oil tealeaf 2001 commenced and speaking for hours on end through a loud hailer about the bilderberg conferences,the skull and bones and who did 9/11 and how it really happened..im fucking fearless me....you would have had to wait in line to retrieve the loud hailer ..and there was a queue.......I made the little paedophile bastards extremely uncomfortable....Douglas hurd came storming out the front gate one day...looking at me really fucking angry and huffing and puffing...serves you right for fucking little kiddies cunt...yeah thats right you filthy reptile bastard you heard me cunt....a friend said that a person he knew was on lsd three days ago and i asked what he was behaving like and he said "the guy keeps saying "im seeing dragons everywhere,Im seeing dragons everywhere".....Im extremly interested in using the powerful forces of witchcarft and magic against the police and the illuminati..bceause thats what they do in masonic temples....the drawing board isa version of a ouija board they use it to speak to spirits about people they need to target for harassment....except my magic is far more loving...and hence more powerful in the right way..so no no regret as a matter of actual fucking fact.
p.s through the use of very powerful witchcraft....I have turned the dark forces of the police back to them a hundred fold..and all the illegal and unnessecary survellaince..car traling...plain clothes opertaive person to person cold staring on public transport..has stopped FOREVER..and that is because various mmagical practitioners have taught me how to utlise my own soul power for good...and how to control my universe instead of allwoing it to be controlled by "authority"
so if anyones interested in learning these powerful techniques then private message me....and Ill sedn you my phone number and we can meet up immediately

[celtic isis]

Sometimes I can feel like a massive weight on my shoulders because of this knowledge but that is probably just because the MAJORITY are still asleep, and that can make life quite lonely, and it feels like a burden at times. That's why god gave us shoulders :) But no I dont regret waking up. I feel privileged somehow, but I want EVERYONE to have the same priviledge.

I mean, how can we regret waking up when the alternative, living a lie, is not REALLY living, is it ? Knowing the "truth" makes me feel comfortable about the direction my life needs to go in. Before I "woke up" I didnt know who the hell I was.

aww steevo, i got a tear in me eye here now! honestly that's it, couldn't have said it better than you did up there, we want everyone to have the same knowledge as us, because it is such a gift but a burden at the same time, just because, we're on the outside...but if they all would just listen and be like a child again, surrender what they think they know, oh how wonderful it would be, we'd all be in it together, instead of us here jumping off the fence and the rest behind it...

that's totally it for me too, before i woke up i didn't know who i was truly either!

This feels RIGHT :)

[darketernal]

Big hugs for you Dark Eternal !!

Best
Lemonique

Thank you. Sometimes we all just need a hug. :D

I'm glad so many of you have found power and contentment from the obtainment of knowledge. For me however, I've paid a high price over and over for that knowledge and at the end of the day having seen so much of it, seeing things from both ends of the spectrum, seeing the human condition, physical, mental and spiritual, it leaves me with a heavy heart. I've never found power in my knowledge, only burden.

I have to laugh when I heard Icke say in a lecture that he thought when his "head exploded" years ago "if this is enlightenment you can shove it mate!" or something to that effect. LoL

[rixxmixxhell]

For me, Not at all.....it happened early for me, very early, then proper realization still early in comparison.

But my mum wishes i wern't, so her ears wouldn't bleed every night :D :D :D :D

Rick

[chris]

I wish I could go back to sleep so I could wake up all over again:D That was quite a trip...

I can imagine enlightenment being like that but a million times better

[Ian2day]

Yes, I never for one moment imagined that it would be quite so lonely. There really is infinite possibilities. If you try to go from one multiverse to another, you may end up in a reality similar to what I have encountered. It is not that great. I'm trying my best and I'm just not good enough. I can't do it, I can't see it through. I have failed everyone I love but most of all I have failed myself.

[krakhead]

I wish I could go back to sleep so I could wake up all over again:D That was quite a trip...

I can imagine enlightenment being like that but a million times better

You are fab you! I do like your style sir! :)

[kallista]

I was never asleep

[young_geecee]

i do to an extent because i was 17 when i became "awoken" although i always always knew something wasnt right.
i remeber at 14 watching 9/11 conspiracy videos and documents and believed it, i just couldnt understand what the hell was the gain apart from oil and iraq control, untill this year of course.

but no i did/sorta do feel unbelievably lonely and antisocial and seem to get lonely quicker but im not sure if thats my new state or my changing years meaning changing life, e.g leaving school and drifting from school mates. i also KNOW that whenever i talk to or listen to someone im thinking about it and what their thinking way too much and i cant be myself instint wise, its like i have to think what to say or do. i am getting better at ignoring that and going with the flow social wise but it has been a long battle.

mind you i know for certain the moment this battle is won, then i am going to have an unbelievable experience and time because i already no that no matter what i can do it and do what i want.

saying that though i cant believe how much better my life is already listening purely to my instincts on what to do and what i want i used to listen 50% of the time (too long a story to say how i listened to them and not my head) and now its so much better.

the political awaken has defintely helped because i used to so frustrated and confused to why people would do this, why they would pass this law, who would benefit and could never figure out why things were happening but then suddenly i know why it/they/decisions/things happen.

as for the spiritual awakening i have only dabbled in that but from what the minimal amount ive picked up im delighted as it has transformed my outlook.

all in all for the last 6 months, i regret it.
for the next 6 months however, no way at all

[lightworks]

Thank you. Sometimes we all just need a hug. :D

I'm glad so many of you have found power and contentment from the obtainment of knowledge. For me however, I've paid a high price over and over for that knowledge and at the end of the day having seen so much of it, seeing things from both ends of the spectrum, seeing the human condition, physical, mental and spiritual, it leaves me with a heavy heart. I've never found power in my knowledge, only burden.

I have to laugh when I heard Icke say in a lecture that he thought when his "head exploded" years ago "if this is enlightenment you can shove it mate!" or something to that effect. LoL
i always enjoy reading your posts..you seem like something of a charcter who got enlightn ed through going the dark route..and to me that signinifes great stamina..endurance and courage...many people will be happy to compromise for a bed,a weekly shag n wage packet and apcket of ciggarettes and a disc usiioon about the latest trama based mind control as depicted in the sun newspaper"facking 'ell d'you wot appened to that little girlbut no you have chosen the good noble path of righteousness...choosing to come here and share your insider knowledge in order to free others..and for that I salute you

[resistance]

Never:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed5_zuLZ36w

[lottie]

Absolutely, positively no regrets whatsoever.

I now have an authentic, spiritually based true human existence and wish I could have been raised as a child to know the Truth about the control of the few over the many on this planet.....

Since I was 8 years old in the 1960's I have 'known' that the world was not what I supposed to believe it was.

Finally, the thing that began my most amazing journey in 2002 - was
"The Biggest Secret" by David Icke.....and the rest, as they say, is history - and bluddy good riddance!!!

I often remind people when discussing the big brother/cctv issue that their children will never grow up in a world where we arnt watched....most of us here can remember a time when there wern't cameras at every turn when out and about, but our children wont.

Whats nice to think is that those children who's parents are on this forum or are waking up/already awake now have the chance to grow up fully aware of whats going on in the world.... something some of us didnt have the luxury of knowing! :)

[anahata]

My reality check was somewhat unexpected... it was by far the most amazing experience I could have imagined, since then it feels like I'm on some kind of quest which just continues to amaze. Day to day bump and grind could be better but I'm coming across more similar minded people all the time who reinforce the beauty of our 'wierd situation'.

No regrets, I wouldn't go back!

[deafbred]

I been awake since birth

the world doesn't want me to let you know, or me to hold on to, how awake i am

this world is a programed sleep mode put on by aware awake deceivers who are unaware of how they are doomed to be defeated

their world is a fake world

my world is a real world

its like an egg shell...the fake world is crumbling away and the real world is hatching

they build this shell to hold you, confine you, deny you till you overcome outgrow or die in the struggle

they want to 'give birth' to the new world order

we're going to give them the birth pains of the real world

it's not my fault they are a shell

i guess they are there for a reason

reasons to you and me that may seem insane

but to them seem legitamate

they are legit in their illegitamcy

all will make sense in the end

we will get an extra sense from the senseless

we been so restless because of some presence

soon we'll shed it like a skin

the snakes will be revealed

no more peels

we all will know the deal

we will see the steal

sealed

[velvetexplorer]

Not one bit. A great sense of freedom from the madness comes with waking up. After you realize the insanity of this world, you know how to ignore it too. Here's the site that really woke me up: http://www.illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com

[zero1]

There's a difference between "waking up" as in mere intellectual awareness of hidden truths and conspiracies, and "waking up" as enlightenment by connexion to Source/God/Force or whatever you want to call it, brought on by your own diligent efforts - very real and totally transformative.

Nevertheless, in the spirit of the question as asked, I sometimes regret that knowing the System of things in this world as I do has made me somewhat cynical - I no longer find myself able to trust the motives of others implicitly, and I am always inclined to suspicion and doubt. That is a very tough way to live...

But on the whole, I still believe it is not preferable to live in ignorance.

[willard]

Never

[alexph777]

It's the conformist side of my character that makes me do this.

I have a lot of conformist mentality too but I'm not sure why this is. I want an easy life I guess. I agree with what you said about pensions. My Dad swears by them. In his generation it was different were the system lived up to its promises. He beleives that I and everyone else must have one or else you will be hard done by when your older, etc. I don't think so some how. I choose to great a different reality. :D

[Ian2day]

I regret trying to awaken others. Its got to the point that I try to avoid conversations on these subjects now as it just brings me down. I met up with someone I hadn't seen in years the other day and just said nothing about myself. As I knew that it would start me off on a crusade of sorts. So I must of come across as a pretty boring person to them. I suppose I may of been seen as a good listener though.

[bicycle]

I regret trying to awaken others.

BINGO!


Give that man a forum ciiiiigar.:D

[dark knight]

no and im happy to have

[scandal girl]

who did answer - "yes", why did they say that ?

life was so miserable before, now it's like back to childhood (forever)

[bicycle]

who did answer - "yes", why did they say that ?



Probably David Icke.

Only kidding;)

[scandal girl]

Probably David Icke.

Only kidding;)

there are 5, right ?

dont tell me it's 1, please ... :mad:

[bicycle]

there are 5, right ?

dont tell me it's 1, please ... :mad:

:confused:

[darketernal]

who did answer - "yes", why did they say that ?

life was so miserable before, now it's like back to childhood (forever)

Read the thread. I was a yes.

[bulgariaole]

I watched zeitgeist about 6 months ago and sence then its been an obsession to know the truth. However I am very confused, not about the whole NWO, evil gov type, but the deeper reptillian, humanoid, stuff. What will happen to us, will aliens help us before 80% of the popoulation is wiped out, why havent they done so before? Im 15 and its frusturating when im thinking about this while my classmates are discussing video games and such:) Im worried, but never regretfull for what ive learned.

[sirlozo]

No way. Its good to know the truth.

Exactly.

[majicdragon]

Waking up?... is that what we've done?

I think I'm only now just beginning to wake up.

All this was planned for you to wake up to.

You are no better off thinking what you know now, than you were then, thinking what you knew.

The plan to expose the true world workings wasn't your plan.... The plan to expose the true workings of the world was an illuminati plan.

Do you think you now know the truth?

[darketernal]

I watched zeitgeist about 6 months ago and sence then its been an obsession to know the truth. However I am very confused, not about the whole NWO, evil gov type, but the deeper reptillian, humanoid, stuff. What will happen to us, will aliens help us before 80% of the popoulation is wiped out, why havent they done so before? Im 15 and its frusturating when im thinking about this while my classmates are discussing video games and such:) Im worried, but never regretfull for what ive learned.

bulgariaole, calm down, take a deep breath.... look at the entire situation again. There are no friendly aliens coming to save you. There is no God coming to save you. There is no violent revolution coming that is capable of saving you. If you wish to be free, then it is up to you to free yourself, mentally and spiritually from the shackles of enslavement. Do not look to me, or anyone else to give you answers. Find them for yourself. The path is one of the individual having the experience. Your life is your own to live, and it is YOUR experience. Do not give away your power to anyone or anything else.

[deafbred]

I regret trying to awaken others. Its got to the point that I try to avoid conversations on these subjects now as it just brings me down. I met up with someone I hadn't seen in years the other day and just said nothing about myself. As I knew that it would start me off on a crusade of sorts. So I must of come across as a pretty boring person to them. I suppose I may of been seen as a good listener though.

lol i can imagine

[biblegirl]

Its got to the point that I try to avoid conversations on these subjects now as it just brings me down. I met up with someone I hadn't seen in years the other day and just said nothing about myself. As I knew that it would start me off on a crusade of sorts. So I must of come across as a pretty boring person to them. I suppose I may of been seen as a good listener though.

I feel this way especially when people start talking about politics/news/elections/terrorists. I want to just blurt out "REPTILES REPTILES REPTILES!" but I mostly just stay quiet. I feel like people must view me as a pretty boring person with no opinions of my own. They seem disappointed that I don't get all riled up about the possiblity of Obama being the next pres. I just don't know how to casually slip in that life as we know it is a sham. :confused:

[gordonfreeman]

One word.

No.

I act sheeple in public and I act myself when I am alone or at home.

[time_lord]

This is a superb thread, btw.

In a word, no!

As far as spiritually goes, I had a rather strange experience when I was four years old. I was suffering from flu and was sleeping on the settee in the living room.

After eventually getting to sleep I dreamt I was in a place where everything was white; there was nothing but white space all above, below and around me. It was a place where my mind felt deep, wide and spacious; my mind felt like it had real substance. How I thought and felt created my environment. When I felt worried, it snowballed into fear, panic then outright terror. My negative emotions created a “mesh of wire” and noise. It looked like a dark coloured crayon scribbled onto a white sheet of paper and I seemed to be in the middle of the whole mess.

I wanted to wake up but couldn’t; I was already “awake”, I just didn’t realise it. I struggled to break free and became more and more distressed. The more distressed I became, the tighter the mesh held me. It seemed to be buried deep in my head.

After some time I finally stopped struggling out of sheer exhaustion. Almost immediately the wire mesh began to disappear. This made me feel less scared and calmer. The calmer I felt, the safer I felt. The scribbled mesh seemed to melt away and was replaced by stillness. If feelings of anxiety intruded, the mesh would begin to appear again, so I tried to stay calm even though I didn’t know where I was.

I became aware of a presence. It felt benign and the best I can describe it is as a large ball of light. It came into my mind and I felt an overwhelming sense of peace, calm, serenity and LOVE. I don’t know how long I was there for but the next thing I remember was waking up on the settee in the living room.

In adulthood when attempting astral projection, I seem to come across the dreaded “fear barrier” and can’t get past this mental block. I meditate regularly and at times feel a tiny fraction of that LOVE I felt when I was four. I’m alone but I rarely feel lonely because I know this LOVE is within me and within ALL of us. When my time’s up and my physical frame is ready for the incinerator, I know for certain that it is not the end but the beginning of a new chapter.

[time_lord]

As far as the N.W.O. and mass manipulation goes, it was only until May of this year that I can honestly say I woke up. Throughout most of my life I’d always been sceptical about mainstream politics and received opinion regarding the state of the world (the banking system, corporate greed, the environment etc) but I could never put my finger on it.

I used to read Private Eye and would get depressed with the endless stories about GM crops, TETRA masts, and PFI scandals. Worst of all were the stories concerning “Defence” companies subsidised by the taxpayer being used by dictators around the world to subjugate innocent people and the heads of these companies being rewarded by queen Reptilian Lizardbeth in the form of knighthoods and peerages.

I watched “Loose Change” or something like it in 2005 and although I found it thought provoking, failed to understand the rationale for 9/11 being an inside job. In isolation, it makes little sense. It’s only when one begins to “join the dots” and steps back that one sees the bigger picture.

Then I watched a couple of David Icke’s lectures and WOW! I found the whole Reptilian agenda disturbing. I didn’t think it too far fetched given the experience I had as a child, but the idea of extra-dimensional beings using us for food freaked me out. The use of children in these sacrifices upset me greatly.

For about a week I was in a state of shock and couldn’t look at the world in the same way, but I don’t regret not knowing. My only regret is that not enough people have woken up.

[bicycle]

Hey thanks for that post time lord sharing your experience when you was only 4. I personally love reading young children's experiences, they seem more real.

Regarding your NWO post, it also annoys me that our tax money is used to kill maim and enslave us.

[time_lord]

Hey thanks for that post time lord sharing your experience when you was only 4. I personally love reading young children's experiences, they seem more real.


Thanks bicycle.:)

Check out Children of the Light by Cherie Sutherland. It came out in ’97 I think. It explains the details of NDE of children. It’s a fascinating read.

Daniel aged four: “I just went to bed that night and Jesus came down and took my hand and said, ‘Come with me.’ And I went…And He said, ‘It’s all right, you can come back, I just want to show you what it’s like.’…And all around I could just see light. Just light.”

[1freethinker]

I feel this way especially when people start talking about politics/news/elections/terrorists. I want to just blurt out "REPTILES REPTILES REPTILES!" but I mostly just stay quiet. I feel like people must view me as a pretty boring person with no opinions of my own. They seem disappointed that I don't get all riled up about the possiblity of Obama being the next pres. I just don't know how to casually slip in that life as we know it is a sham. :confused:

lmao!!! :D

[fromthatshow]

There is no way it could not have happened.
In the end, it is impossible to sleep forever.

[bicycle]

Thanks bicycle.:)

Check out Children of the Light by Cherie Sutherland. It came out in ’97 I think. It explains the details of NDE of children. It’s a fascinating read.

Daniel aged four: “I just went to bed that night and Jesus came down and took my hand and said, ‘Come with me.’ And I went…And He said, ‘It’s all right, you can come back, I just want to show you what it’s like.’…And all around I could just see light. Just light.”

Right, thats me of to my local library tomorrow to put a request in. Thanks:)

[bicycle]

There is no way it could not have happened.
In the end, it is impossible to sleep forever.

Yep good point, imo. Reminds me of that line from Tales From The Timeloop where that womens voice told David Icke "All will be gathered in":)

[gorana]

I wish I could go back to sleep so I could wake up all over again:D That was quite a trip...

I can imagine enlightenment being like that but a million times better

Don't wish that. Further you go down the path, the better it gets. Of course, if you reached final stage, then it is different story. But for me it is still a long way ahead.

G.

[gorana]

I regret trying to awaken others. Its got to the point that I try to avoid conversations on these subjects now as it just brings me down. I met up with someone I hadn't seen in years the other day and just said nothing about myself. As I knew that it would start me off on a crusade of sorts. So I must of come across as a pretty boring person to them. I suppose I may of been seen as a good listener though.
Don'T be like that, you are what you are and that's what counts.

If they are not ready, talk about weather and next countdown for US president, or whatever else. They will come to the point that they will want to know why everything does not count up and then you can poke around and maybe open a door to awakeness for them.

Don't push or pull on them. It does not work, you will need very big strength and thats what neither of us have. Use the technique that aikido does, wait till they lose balance and then you can spin them around as you wish.

G.

[john lydon]

We don't "wake up", we take on differing mental attitudes and positions throughout life. Some don't, and stay rigid and dogmatic in the belief system that they grew up in, or they pitch their tents later in life and end up living there.

Just because someone believes in the laws of Mohammed, or capitalist hedonism, and another believes in global conspiracy bares no relation to whether someone is "awake" or not. Promoting this idea is a form of elitism, like the use of the word "sheeple" when putting people down who don't believe in the same acquired knowledge as you.

It's bullshit.

Leave people be and get on with your own life, for people are always "awake" to their own perception, and long may that differ.

[robindean]

Tbh, i'm glad i found out at such an early age.. because if i didn't none of my family would know about this either.. but yeah it was hard being given weird looks when i was tellin them lol.

But hell no do i regret waking up. Don't know anybody that does..

[john lydon]

Tbh, i'm glad i found out at such an early age.. because if i didn't none of my family would know about this either.. but yeah it was hard being given weird looks when i was tellin them lol.

But hell no do i regret waking up. Don't know anybody that does..

You and your family wouldn't know about what? And how has this helped you in life, in meaningful ways? And what did you "wake up" from?

Thinking something different to someone else doesn't make anyone special, it makes them human.

[robindean]

You and your family wouldn't know about what? And how has this helped you in life, in meaningful ways? And what did you "wake up" from?

Thinking something different to someone else doesn't make anyone special, it makes them human.

Knew about what was really happening in the world!
It's helped me look at everything differently, if i saw a war happening before i think hey this must be good for the country, now i think great.. another nail in the world population's coffin.

[phaid]

I'm currently listening to Neil Kramer's recent interview with Red Ice in which he proposes some very interesting points about the various ways that people find themselves attracted into this whole field of research, expanding your consciousness, and also the pitfalls of information overload.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/09sep/RICR-080904.php

I'm not yet a Red Ice subscriber so if anyone has the second part of the interview I'd love to hear it. ;)

[armoured_amazon]

I sometimes think ignorance must be bliss but as someone earlier wrote in the thread, it's better to have the truth than a lie.

[john lydon]

Knew about what was really happening in the world!
It's helped me look at everything differently, if i saw a war happening before i think hey this must be good for the country, now i think great.. another nail in the world population's coffin.

You mean other people's opinions as to what they think is really happening in the world?

I agree, it's helped you look at things differently, in this context it's steered you towards negative supposition.

Anothers opinion is just that and nothing more. Your acquired knowledge is no more relevant than you decide to make it.

[john lydon]

I sometimes think ignorance must be bliss but as someone earlier wrote in the thread, it's better to have the truth than a lie.

Who champions "truth" above their own needs or inflated opinions?

You mean, you like to read and hear opinions that fall in line with your own, thereby you proclaim these words as "truth" because you agree with them?

[armoured_amazon]

Who champions "truth" above their own needs or inflated opinions?

You mean, you like to read and hear opinions that fall in line with your own, thereby you proclaim these words as "truth" because you agree with them?

Oh, do I?

I am of the belief that I am unable to assume the intention of someone else.

[raptorialis]

Many people here believe that they have woken up.

When in fact they have "woken down".

By waking up - you mean to say that you see the world differently now that you have been given the key (by David and others) - to unlock new perspective.

What you don't understand is that there are a billion keys to unlocking a billion different perspectives.

You have the power to choose which one you use, at any point in time.

But you don't have the right to believe that those who don't share your perspective - "are not awake".

[armoured_amazon]

But you don't have the right to believe that those who don't share your perspective - "are not awake".

That is also true and without knowing people more intimately it is futile to decide whether that is what a person is thinking.

:)

[john lydon]

Oh, do I?

I am of the belief that I am unable to assume the intention of someone else.

Yes, you do.

I am of the belief that you are, too.

[john lydon]

Many people here believe that they have woken up.

When in fact they have "woken down".

By waking up - you mean to say that you see the world differently now that you have been given the key (by David and others) - to unlock new perspective.

What you don't understand is that there are a billion keys to unlocking a billion different perspectives.

You have the power to choose which one you use, at any point in time.

But you don't have the right to believe that those who don't share your perspective - "are not awake".


This is well written, because I agree with it.

[deathcultreject]

'Waking up' in the sense that I knew I was in a dream world and there was more going on than I'd been conditioned to believe?

No I don't regret that, I've helped people I like because of it, and I've cursed people who were going around making problems for everyone else.

No regrets there.

Do I regret sticking my neck out for different ideas when that meant that people could lie about what I was saying and try to make theirselves into gurus with it?

Well obviously, but I can still curse them for it.

[cafe beelzebub]

think i was born quite aware, always knew there was more to reality than meets the eye. saw through society and how its a completely manufactured and manipulated construct fron a young age, awarness of the conspiracy shit was a natural progression.

i get real tired of the fucking trip to be honest

[devanshoom]

i wouldnt say i regretted "waking up" ....not that i have really. I still see the world in the same way...only now I just know everything around me is a lie.

But I sussed this out ages ago when i used to do acid quite regular. It was just a feeling that kept gathering in intensity...something just wasnt right, but didnt know what it was. Now I know.

In a big way it will help me, as I plan to go live in the sticks somewhere and become self sufficient. But doing that doesnt really help the fight against the NWO. But the only other option is to stay with everyone else and continually be fucked over by the evil overlords.

If someone came down from andromeda and gave me a pair of spiderman pajamas and said..."right now your super human go and take out all those fuckers...and then go take out the greys and lizards"....then I would stay and fight. But the andromedans are too busy playing ping pong with billy fucking meiir and so it aint gonna happen.

[deathcultreject]

Many people here believe that they have woken up.

When in fact they have "woken down".

By waking up - you mean to say that you see the world differently now that you have been given the key (by David and others) - to unlock new perspective.

What you don't understand is that there are a billion keys to unlocking a billion different perspectives.

You have the power to choose which one you use, at any point in time.

But you don't have the right to believe that those who don't share your perspective - "are not awake".

Well absolutely, I've seen some narrow minded racist crap pushed on this forum, and then been told I wasn't 'awakened' because I didn't agree with it.

When I say awakening I don't mean conversion from obeying one belief to obeying another. I mean seeing a bigger picture more often, becoming more free to see from more vantage points, or having more consciousness and more awareness.

There will sadly be people might not 'get' that for a while, and they might play the same old bullying games of sick religions whilst they pin another dogma onto the surface.