Confusion between hemp and marijuana ?

[fuggles]

I just recently saw hemp seeds in ASDA, and later did more research and found that holland and barret sell loads of Hemp related products and put it in all their bars. (a commercial health store for Non-uk people who don't know what Holland and Barret is)

So I did research on hemp and realised its one of the most nutritous foods on the planet, and can grow nearly anywhere, and is used to print money, make clothes, make ropes, make fibre, make paper, and everything else.

it has tons of vitamins , minerlas etc etc etc etc.

So when you hear mainstream media say 'new research that marijuana is good for you', maybe they are getting confused with hemp seeds. Because if you ate something as healthy as hemp seeds, your health would improve anyway, and you may not need the marijuana.

And if you plant hemp seeds from ASDA (yes they really do sell them), they will look extremely similar to marijuana, yet completely different.

information regarding hemp and marijuana similarities.
http://naihc.org/hemp_information/content/hemp.mj.html

[supertzar]

It's doubtful that anyone is confused between eating hemp seed and smoking or ingesting Cannabis. Hemp seed rules, though! Ever try it?

[swifty]

The hemp seeds that you get from various shops are normally Sterilised so they wont grow they are pretty tasty though, I'd also recomend hemp oil
also available in asda (think its called Good oil) fantastic for salads or anything else you can think to do with it but if heated above 150 degrees c it starts to lose its goodness ;)

[revolutionary_jam]

hey there are some cool hemp related images here you can save and distribute:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=267014809&albumId=0

[cew91]

There is no difference between hemp and cannabis, the only difference is the way the name is used and cannabis sativa or indica is the botanical name. The hemp seed is produced when the buds of a female marijuana or hemp plant is pollinated by a male plant if left without pollen it becomes the resinous buds you can smoke or eat to induce the high or stone depending on the strain.

Hope this helps and good luck in your hemp research!

[supertzar]

Actually, there is a difference. "Hemp" and "marijuana" are two broad types of the same species, Cannabis Sativa. Hemp is generally low in THC and high in fiber and cellulose. It is grown for industrial purposes and for food (seeds.) Marijuana is high in the psychoactive cannabinoids such as THC and is not used industrially.

[fuggles]

The point Im making is that some people take marijuana to help them with a medical problem, but evidence shows us that hemp is one of the healthiest plants in the world, so why dont they just eat hemp ? Because that definitely would improve your health , with all the vitamins and mineral etc .

[supertzar]

Because the cannabinoids have a totally different mode of action and effects than eating hemp seed. They give instant relief for a wide variety of ailments and long term ingestion probably helps prevent and reduce tumors and other things.

Humanity would definitely be healthier if we all ate hemp seeds and there would likely be fewer pathologies to treat with THC or other medicines, so I see where you are coming from. By the way, the main benefits of hemp seed are protein and essential fatty acids, not really vitamins and minerals.

[ithink]

Actually, hemp and marijuana are the same things. This is one of the oldest plants ever, dating back as 5,000 - 8,000 years ago. The name "marijuana" was introduced in the 1930's to denigrate the plants fame and name, which is in fact - hemp!

Nowadays, if we talk about marijuana we are talking about the illegal plant that contains THC (the active substance), and if we want to talk about the legal aspects of the plant, we refer to it as hemp (which has little percentage of THC, like 0,05%.)

The truth is that this plant - hemp, marijuana, cannabis, buddha, ganja - whatever you would like to call it, could save the planet. I recommend the following documentaries:

1. Emperor of Hemp
2. Run From The Cure - The Rick Simpson Story (Cures Cancer)
3. Read the book: The Emperor Wears No Cloths - Link: http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html

Research these sites:

1. http://www.jackherer.com/
2. http://www.abovetheignorance.org/
http://www.abovetheignorance.org/images/flyer.jpg
http://www.abovetheignorance.org/links.html

Let me know what you think of it and don't forget to spread the word out! :D

[pacoquerak]

while hemp is probobly the greatest of all seeds it deserves this cautionary note. Seeds and nuts that exist in more northern climates have high amounts of unsaturated oils as well as enyzme inhibitors. If processed incorectly unsaturated oils go bad very quickly and will toxify your body. Only eat hemp oil that is cold pressed and has been refigerated. Never cook with it. Enzyme inhibitors are destroyed simply by soaking the living seed in water, after they are gone the enzymes are still present and in much higher content than other foods, but if the seed is heated the enymes go away. Enzyme inhibitors are why nuts and seeds make your stomach feel "heavy". When we eat enzyme inhibitors our body is forced to create new ones, but by eating the seeds with the inhibitors removed our body will be left with more enzymes than it started with as our body recycles them. years of consuming unprocessed grains and seeds leaves our organs spent and enlarged from their over use. Another reason why beer is esspecialy bad for your liver!
Also, while hemp is the best seed, there are many seeds that share the "bad" qualities of hemp without the good ones, so make sure you aren't over consuming seed.

[cew91]

Actually, there is a difference. "Hemp" and "marijuana" are two broad types of the same species, Cannabis Sativa. Hemp is generally low in THC and high in fiber and cellulose. It is grown for industrial purposes and for food (seeds.) Marijuana is high in the psychoactive cannabinoids such as THC and is not used industrially.

hemp is the cannabis sativa plant which is high in THC but when pollination occurs the THC is what the plant uses to produce the seeds and the buds are the seed pods. Back to the point theres Sativa - high thc (HEMP) "HIGH" and Indica that is the main "street weed" variety low THC high CBD "stoned" just wanted to clear that up, but man at least you support this endangered herb

[supertzar]

hemp is the cannabis sativa plant which is high in THC but when pollination occurs the THC is what the plant uses to produce the seeds and the buds are the seed pods. Back to the point theres Sativa - high thc (HEMP) "HIGH" and Indica that is the main "street weed" variety low THC high CBD "stoned" just wanted to clear that up, but man at least you support this endangered herb

Sorry, you are incorrect. Hemp varieties are never high in THC, whether they are seeded or not. Do your research.

[eternal_spirit]

¤White Russian from http://www.seriousseeds.com/ has one of the highest THC levels:hydroponic white russian

THC 22%


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One of the most typically indica strains, White Russian is a stable cross of AK-47 and White Widow (a prize winning indica clone). Medium height, consistent plants and dense, very resinous flower tops (crystals appear after about 5 weeks of flowering). With such a strong indica background, the plants smell quite strong during both their growth and flowering period. In an independent seed comparison in which over 150 different seedstrains were grown out in a greenhouse, the White Russian came out as the strongest plant (22% THC, likely to be the strongest plant known at present!!).

http://www.ganja.co.uk/cannabis-seed...te-russian.htm (http://www.ganja.co.uk/cannabis-seeds/serious-seeds/serious-white-russian.htm)

[silver_eyes]

i eat any stray marijuana seeds i find and dont want. im sure they mostly have the same nutrition value as hemp seeds

[silver_eyes]

Sorry, you are incorrect. Hemp varieties are never high in THC, whether they are seeded or not. Do your research.

very true, even tho there are tiny amounts of thc in hemp they arent enough to be noted

[astro zombie]

Damn supertzar you really know your shit when it comes to cannabis!:D

*lights a bowl*

[supertzar]

Thanks, Astro Zombie. I used to use that name a long time ago on another board.

[cew91]

Sorry, you are incorrect. Hemp varieties are never high in THC, whether they are seeded or not. Do your research.

There is some truth to what you are saying. The "hemp" varieties used in western countries just for industrial use have been hybridized and bred to contain no THC. On the other hand in ancient cultures that used "cannabis sativa" were Tibet, Nepal, China, India ect, they used the plant in its natural form (containing THC) for fibre for their clothes and houses, seed as a staple food source, but also smoked/ate the late buds that developed after pollination had occurred for inspiration/relaxation. So you are right that the european Hemp contains low THC but it is just a heavily manipulated version on cannabis sativa which in its natural form contains Natural amounts of THC.

[monkey]

Actually, there is a difference. "Hemp" and "marijuana" are two broad types of the same species, Cannabis Sativa. Hemp is generally low in THC and high in fiber and cellulose. It is grown for industrial purposes and for food (seeds.) Marijuana is high in the psychoactive cannabinoids such as THC and is not used industrially.

This is bollocks.

CANNABIS IS HEMP/hemp is cannabis

Marajuana is an obscure MEXICAN SLANG word , this 'foriegn' sounding name was used to DISINFORM and CONFUSE people as to the true identity of the cannabis/hemp plant and to help criminalise black and mexican cultures that utilised this wonderful plant

EVERYONE should STOP using the RACIST propaganda 'M' word popularised by the conspiracy of J.p. Morgan, Du Pont petrochemicals and Randolph Hearst who acted through disinfo agents such as Harvey "reefer madness" ainslinger

what supertzar should have said is

Hemp THAT IS is generally low in THC and high in fiber and cellulose..... is grown for industrial CLOTH, PAPER, ROPE/THREAD, OIL BASED PLASTIC, purposes. HEMP THAT is high in the psychoactive cannabinoids such as THC and is not used industrially

[monkey]

Sorry, you are incorrect. Hemp varieties are never high in THC, whether they are seeded or not. Do your research.

No , you do your research , you are unwittingly spreading falsehoods

the White Russian came out as the strongest plant (22% THC, likely to be the strongest plant known at present!!).
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don't believe the hype

They get that figure from THEIR BEST PLANT, from years of breeding in optimum conditions, tested by gas chromatograph.
you are very unlikely to get a plant from a pack of seeds that will reach these levels of T.H.C. , Even if you know what you are doIng

very true, even tho there are tiny amounts of thc in hemp they arent enough to be noted

SURELY YOU MEAN 'RUDERALIS' and NOT hemp

[h2pogo]

low thc hemp has been messed with but is essentially the same plant.
seriously the answer to alot of problems.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3070358204716119824&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/watch?emb=0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.co.uk%2Fvideosearch %3Fq%3Drun+from+the+cure&v=pjhT9282-Tw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?emb=0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.co.uk%2Fvideosearch %3Fq%3Drun+from+the+cure&v=skwRB6zoEpQ

[h2pogo]

this might also help if confused.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4284666027250613526&hl=en

google "ron paul hemp marijuana" btw

[disorder2k8]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but useless facts : You used to be able to pay taxes with hemp, George Washington and Ben Franklin both grew hemp.
at certain points in history it was the largest crop after tobacco.

[cew91]

This is bollocks.

CANNABIS IS HEMP/hemp is cannabis

Marajuana is an obscure MEXICAN SLANG word , this 'foriegn' sounding name was used to DISINFORM and CONFUSE people as to the true identity of the cannabis/hemp plant and to help criminalise black and mexican cultures that utilised this wonderful plant

EVERYONE should STOP using the RACIST propaganda 'M' word popularised by the conspiracy of J.p. Morgan, Du Pont petrochemicals and Randolph Hearst who acted through disinfo agents such as Harvey "reefer madness" ainslinger

what supertzar should have said is

Hemp THAT IS is generally low in THC and high in fiber and cellulose..... is grown for industrial CLOTH, PAPER, ROPE/THREAD, OIL BASED PLASTIC, purposes. HEMP THAT is high in the psychoactive cannabinoids such as THC and is not used industrially

spot on, "cannabis" as the real botanical name has been found in most regions of the world. usually you get the tall cannabis sativa plants that grew in tropical india, you get the small hashish plants in the mid east, Ruderalis I heard comes grows well / originated from cold climate. But the American Indians also had a type of hemp called Apocynum cannabinum http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Apocynum+cannabinum but it grows berrys... lol.

this might also help if confused.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...50613526&hl=en

google "ron paul hemp marijuana" btw have you seen the one where mitt romney turns his back on a patient asking about medical cann?

Not sure if this was mentioned, but useless facts : You used to be able to pay taxes with hemp, George Washington and Ben Franklin both grew hemp.
at certain points in history it was the largest crop after tobacco.
yeah man, what a shame its now the most damned crop.

[supertzar]

I use the word marijuana sparingly, usually in a way that mocks people who only know it by that name. I hope no one is preaching to me about calling it by its' scientific name, Cannabis, because I have been calling it that pretty much exclusively for many years.

I guess if you want to use the loosest definition of hemp, you could include smoked Cannabis, but in my opinion hemp is almost always low in THC. If it is not, it is probably an accident.

No way would I call Durban Poison or Haze, both of which are Sativas, "hemp." I think you would be hard-pressed to find anyone except a few people here, apparrently, that would be like "Hey, man. I heard you had some kickass hemp for sale. Can I get a bag of that? You know where I can get some White Widow hemp seeds???

[supertzar]

Here is another thing or two to put in your pipe and smoke:

Q: What is industrial hemp?
A: Industrial hemp refers to genetic varieties of the Cannabis
sativa plant which are certified to contain less than 1.00% THC
(tetrahydrocannabinols). THC is the psychoactive chemical found
in Cannabis sativa. Industrial hemp is not to be confused with
marijuana. Marijuana comes from the flowers of the Cannabis
sativa plant and contains more than 1.00% THC. Industrial hemp
has no psychoactive properties.

Q: Isn't hemp just a shallow ruse for the legalization of
marijuana?
A: The Colorado Farm Bureau, the American Farm Bureau, and many
other conservative organizations have endorsed industrial hemp
but do not support the legalization of marijuana.
Hemp and marijuana are two distinct varieties of plants.
Hemp is low in THC and is cultivated for fiber and seed.
Marijuana is high in THC and is cultivated as a medicine. Hemp is a
crop, not a drug.
Promotion of hemp is not a shallow ruse for the legalization
of marijuana. It is an attempt by farmers to re-introduce a
legitimate and profitable alternative crop and an attempt by
environmentalists to promote alternative fiber and fuel sources.
http://www.montananorml.org/industrial.php3


In addition to THC, hemp also contains a substance called cannabidiol [CBD] which functions as an antidote to THC. A CBD:THC proportion of 2:1 largely suppresses THC’s psychoactive effects. While all cannabis contains both substances, industrial hemp is low in THC [typically 0.06-0.3%] and high in CBD [>0.5%], accounting for a CBD:THC proportion of over 5: 1.

Marijuana, on the other hand, is high in THC and low in CBD [<0.5%]. A chemical analysis of about 100 hemp varieties found about 40 non-drug varieties with THC:CBD proportions smaller than 1:5. In contrast. the eight drug varieties in the study had large THC:CBD proportions ranging from 2.3:1 .to 7.4: 1.

The significance of these numbers lies in the fact that industrial hemp, even if it were to induce a ‘high’ [which it does not] comes along with an inbuilt countereffect: CBD. [An interesting side note: Low-THC high CBD hemp cigarettes have been successfully used to help chronic marijuana smokers shed their addiction.]
http://www.globalhemp.com/Archives/Government_Research/hawaiian_ind_hemp_report.shtml



Misconception #5: “There is no standard for an acceptable THC level.”
The good news is that there is a standard in place. The bad news is that this standard is quite arbitrary and not necessarily the best one. The European Economic Community (EEC) has agreed on certifying only strains of hemp that contain less than 0.3% THC, as measured in the upper third of the leaf. However, the way this standard came about had more to do with French economic interests than with scientific opinions. With a prior- near-monopoly on 0.3% THC hemp seeds, it was in France’s interests to push for this standard within the EEC. The move was successful and has meant that European hemp growers, wishing to qualify for EEC subsidies, purchase their seeds from France, creating a situation of insufficient supplies and high prices.

In the meantime, new hemp varieties are being developed elsewhere. The former Soviet Union originally set its standard at 0.2%. While Eastern European strains do not exceed that limit, several are well below 0.2%. One strain of low-THC hemp grown in the Ukraine, for example, contains as little as 0.06% THC.

Even though evidence shows that industrial hemp and marijuana are not the same, and even though other law enforcement concerns have been addressed satisfactorily in other countries, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency continues to oppose any legislation that would distinguish between industrial hemp and marijuana.

http://www.globalhemp.com/Archives/Government_Research/hawaiian_ind_hemp_report.shtml




6.1 Hemp vs. Marijuana
Hemp belongs to the family Cannabinaceae (genus Cannabis species sativa). Hemp is a race of C.
sativa that has low levels of DELTA9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) the psychoactive constituent of
marijuana and higher levels of cannabidiol (CBD). THC levels of less than 0.3% cannot produce
any psychoactive effects. To produce psychoactive effects THC levels have to be in excess of 1%
(Grotenhermen et al. 1998). Marijuana races have THC levels between 3% and 20%. Plants with
between 0.3% and 1% have zero to a minimal psychoactive effect. Most countries that have
legalised hemp insist that the plants grown have a THC level below 0.3%. A number of hemp
advocates have suggested that the limit be raised to 1% as this level has no illicit appeal and would
widen the number of cultivars that can be grown. Also the natural level of THC in hemp is 0.3-1%
(as evidenced by wild hemp, that grows in places such as the Hunter Valley in Australia and in
Kentucky, USA, left over from previous times when hemp was grown in these areas) (Thompson et
al. 1998). Low THC cultivars thus have to be actively bred to keep the THC low. A 1% THC limit
for hemp would reduce the need for this selection. It would also create a greater ‘safety’ margin.
Growing conditions can affect THC levels so it is possible that cultivars with THC levels close to
the 0.3% limit may exceed that, due to conditions during growing, thus changing the status of the
crop from legal to illegal. Marijuana also has to be constantly selected to maintain its high THC
levels and will revert to low levels without such intervention.
CBD, the other active constituent of C. sativa, reduces the psychoactive effects of THC, and
produces unpleasant effects such as headaches when consumed. Therefore not only is the
percentage of THC important in determining C. sativa value as a drug but also the CBD:THC ratio.
While most botanists now consider hemp and marijuana to be the same species, with a number of
geographic races or ecological form groups, some hemp advocates have promoted suggestions that
hemp and marijuana are different species in the hope such a classification would ease hemp’s
legalisation (Roulac & Hemptec 1997). Debate on whether hemp and marijuana are different
species is of no practical consequence as all the suggested species, races and forms interbreed with
each other easily and spontaneously (Bócsa & Karus 1998).
http://www.merfield.com/research/hemp/hemp.pdf

[cew91]

Look mate, don't take it so seriously none of us here are doubting what your saying "hemp is used in industry and is low thc" but the original plant in its native form contains THC. I don't know whether you are familiar with hybridization if not it is when you cross plants again and again to ensure the plants offspring contain the traits you are looking for. For example the "hemp" with low thc was created after years of pollinating the pheno types with the least cannabis and with the longest stalks ect so it is all man-manipulated. With hybridization you only manipulate the odds 1/2 1/3 1/4 1/5 1/6 the more you do it the more the odds are in your favour but if you left a field of hemp to breed wildly and freely the thc would slowly start to rise up to the natural levels 1/5 1/4 1/3 1/2 1. In conclusion the ancient thc filled cannabis sativa is still in the hemp genetics but given years to breed it would once again become the basic strain

[supertzar]

You're totally changing your story. Before you said: hemp is the cannabis sativa plant which is high in THC but when pollination occurs the THC is what the plant uses to produce the seeds and the buds are the seed pods. Back to the point theres Sativa - high thc (HEMP) "HIGH" and Indica that is the main "street weed" variety low THC high CBD "stoned" just wanted to clear that up, but man at least you support this endangered herb So you were doubting what I am saying. Why not just listen to me and learn? I am sharing good information with you. There is no shame in acknowledging that someone has a better understanding than you. It is a sign of intelligence in my opinion.

Cannabis is the most bred plant in the world by far. I have often wondered about its' ancestor. How much THC did it have? I make no assumptions about that, but what is clear is that, beginning thousands of years ago, Cannabis breeding went in two basic directions; one for fiber and another for THC. Still, we are left wondering about the THC level of the ancient land races that were the basis for these two broad classifications of Cannabis. The answer lies in prehistory.

[supertzar]

Take a Granny Smith. It is a green apple, right? So, all Granny Smiths are green apples. Not all green apples are Granny Smiths though, are they? That analogy directly applies to what I am saying about hemp. It is all Cannabis Sativa. Not all Cannabis Sativa is hemp, though. Understand? I hope???

It's ironic you ask me if I know about hybridization when you totally misrepresent how breeding works. You don't just "cross plants over and over." It's a lot more complex than that. You have to back cross the hybrid with one of the parents and things like that. Sorry if you think I am too serious, but mess with the bull and you know what you'll get. :cool:

[cew91]

mess with the bull and you know what you'll get.
bull...shit... well this debate is far from over.

You simply need to look in a dictionary and you will get this

Definitions
hemp
noun

1. A tall annual herb, Cannabis sativa, native to Asia.
2. Various products of this plant, including fibres and the drug cannabis.

Translations:

* Dutch: hennep
* French: chanvre
* German: Hanf
* Italian: canapa
* Spanish: cí¡í±amo , marihuana
(trans-bottom)

Etymology: henep.

You are only half right when you say hemp contains very low THC, you will always find a potent female in a hemp field but the odds are around 30:1 or more.

I admit what I said before hemp is the cannabis sativa plant which is high in THC but when pollination occurs the THC is what the plant uses to produce the seeds and the buds are the seed pods. Back to the point theres Sativa - high thc (HEMP) "HIGH" and Indica that is the main "street weed" variety low THC high CBD "stoned" just wanted to clear that up, but man at least you support this endangered herb was not entirely correct, although hemp is still referred to as cannabis Sativa. So let me rephrase that Indica produces stoned feeling when ingested and can also be used industrially for cannabis seed (because of the high ratio of buds), Sativa produces high feeling when ingested and produces long stalks good for industrial purposes. Hemp - created when the tallest and least potent cannabis sativa pheno types were hybridized and interbred until the desired ratio of probability was sufficient(still genetic manipulation in my eyes). If you have seen "run from the cure" he refers to cannabis oil as hemp oil...

Argue all you want about the name of a plant but the important thing would be to encourage farmers to grow hemp (cannabis sativa) instead of cotton, wool, sugar cane, palm trees, canola and grow hemp (cannabis sativa) instead of mining and drilling earth important oil and minerals.

[supertzar]

Okay, my friend. Have fun smoking that kickass hemp.

[pleasuredome]

right, i popped into asda and got a bag of hemp seeds. what do i do with them? just chew and swallow, boil them or something? they've got a hard skin which you cant really chew properly and definately wont be able to digest.

[fuggles]

right, i popped into asda and got a bag of hemp seeds. what do i do with them? just chew and swallow, boil them or something? they've got a hard skin which you cant really chew properly and definately wont be able to digest.

sprout them, and them put them into rockwool, and get hemp plants !

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=37025

[supertzar]

right, i popped into asda and got a bag of hemp seeds. what do i do with them? just chew and swallow, boil them or something? they've got a hard skin which you cant really chew properly and definately wont be able to digest.

You have to hull them. How you do that, I don't recall. No need to wallow in ignorance these days, though, huh?

[fuggles]

you dont have to hull them to sprout them.

To eat them, you can just eat them straight, or make hemp milk, and then put it through a nut milk bag .

But yes, you can eat them with the shells on, or without the shell,s whatever you prefer.

please read this

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=45046

http://www.hempseed.ca/hulled-vs-whole.ihtml

also could be boiled with porridge or something

[lyrag]

Hemp seeds are brilliant try getting them raw though once heated they are not much use, i can also give people recipes for some nice hemp foods if anyones interested?, here is a good link on where to purchase them raw www.detoxyourworld.com , so is the oil make sure its cold pressed though.
Once oils are heated they become rancid.

'Hemp seeds are are rich in protein, vitamins and minerals. Hemp seeds are the only edible seeds with gamma-linolenic acid (GLA).

Hemp seeds are a highly nutritious source of protein, and are better tasting and more digestible than the soya bean.'

May i also note that soya beans are a GM food, cause alot of gas build up and have to be heavily heated and cooked before become at all edible.

'Hemp seeds contain no THC, the psychoactive substance in marijuana'