THEY need us to hate cops and the military

[steevo]

IN MY OPINION, the "powers that be" want us to hate the military (and cops) and want us to spit at them for their attrocities. That's why they are letting us see all these videos of those incidents where the military and the police are treating humanity like shit.

Let's rewind back 30+ years when the Vietnam Veterans came home. There was alot of hatred towards those soldiers by the public. Just imagine if they had brought in Martial Law AT THAT TIME. The soldiers would have seen civillians as their enemy and would quite easily have shot them if ordered to.

[zen_fox]

I don't think you know what "the powers that be want."

[lordzoma]

It's easy to be upset at people who enforce a draconian agenda.

[steevo]

I don't think you know what "the powers that be want."

That's just it, you "DONT think" do you.

[steevo]

It's easy to be upset at people who enforce a draconian agenda.

Yeah it's easy. That's why the police and military need to be made aware of how they are being used as pawns. Yes there are elements in the police and military who are quite willing to carry out attrocities for fun (or whatever) but there are also decent people in there who are just obeying orders and NOT REALISING that that they are BEING USED for other purposes that the soldiers/police are unaware of.

[zen_fox]

You're overreacting. I meant nothing by it. If I offended, I apologize.

I just don't think it's as absolute as you make it out to be. I haven't noticed an increase in police violence because I don't fill my mind with endless streams of cops beating the shit out of people. That places your body and mind in a constant state of stress and anxiety. While in that state one is very reactive to everything that goes on around them. They react out of defense because they always feel under assault.

[steevo]

You're overreacting. I meant nothing by it. If I offended, I apologize.

I just don't think it's as absolute as you make it out to be. I haven't noticed an increase in police violence because I don't fill my mind with endless streams of cops beating the shit out of people. That places your body and mind in a constant state of stress and anxiety. While in that state one is very reactive to everything that goes on around them. They react out of defense because they always feel under assault.

I have the right express my opinion dont I as long as I'm not TROLLING.

[gordonfreeman]

Trolls are everywhere, living in your computer, under your basement, and David Icke's forums. Furry Trolls suck even more! Because they have no lives and almost all they do is talk shit about them.

Trolls are useless and annoying. But is Zen Fox a troll? Yes and no.

Go to youtube and you will see many cop and army hating.

[deafbred]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

you wouldn't know about this if you watch mainstream media

things are silly

[jayelowell]

Trolls are useless and annoying. But is Zen Fox is a troll? Yes and no
NO!
anyways...
hating isnt cool!

in this video you see two men enter a police station to file a report against a cop & end up knocking a cop out! plus the cop gets hit with a tazer
http://www.cnn.com/video/savp/evp/?loc=dom&vid=/video/crime/2008/08/28/dnt.police.station.scuffle.kctv

[thelucifer]

Hate is a tool used against mankind.

When one chooses to hate, one chooses to loose and be used.

Hate is a real mind blower.

[scandal girl]

soldiers sux - let'em get what they deserve

[lordzoma]

NO!
anyways...
hating isnt cool!

in this video you see two men enter a police station to file a report against a cop & end up knocking a cop out! plus the cop gets hit with a tazer
http://www.cnn.com/video/savp/evp/?loc=dom&vid=/video/crime/2008/08/28/dnt.police.station.scuffle.kctv

You misquoted me. :/ :confused:


In response to steevo --

Yes - there are plenty of people in the military and in the police that have the best interests of the citizenry at heart. You are absolutely correct when you say that many of them are just following orders and are left unaware of the true motivation behind the people giving them those orders.

Ultimately I would say that the truth movement would benefit from waking up members of the police forces, of the national guard, and of the military.

Unfortunately, however, I think it is past the point of no return, and I believe that far too many people in those areas would outright dismiss any attempt at waking them up.

[jayelowell]

You misquoted me. :/ :confused:
srry... NO HARM DONE

[steevo]

You misquoted me. :/ :confused:


In response to steevo --

Yes - there are plenty of people in the military and in the police that have the best interests of the citizenry at heart. You are absolutely correct when you say that many of them are just following orders and are left unaware of the true motivation behind the people giving them those orders.

Ultimately I would say that the truth movement would benefit from waking up members of the police forces, of the national guard, and of the military.

Unfortunately, however, I think it is past the point of no return, and I believe that far too many people in those areas would outright dismiss any attempt at waking them up.

It's far from too late to wake up the military and police. To wake them up would be the Illuminati's worst nightmare. Wheteher we like it or not, the police and the army ARE HUMAN and so are their families. And they are not immune from being awakened.

[resistance]

Its obvious that they are putting us and the military against each other, its extra security for them (the elite) the cops and the military though are starting to wake up. I know some military, and their not all as brainwashed as some people say.

Police and military against the NWO.

http://www.jackmclamb.com/

[cruise4]

It's crossed my mind that they may want the people and troops to take a toll on each other before the really scary WMD shit is wheeled out. As long as we aren't attacking them or their bureacratic control systems they'd love nothing more than the people knocking 7 bells out of each other. I've also thought these foreign wars are about reducing trrop numbers. perhaps their favoured soldier boys are the new recruits brought up on computer games, additives and mind control programs. The troops are being woken up, and so are the police... slowly. I hope people don't forget the odd info pack into their local Police Station.

"That places your body and mind in a constant state of stress and anxiety."

But isn't this what people should be learning to cope with, rather than using avoidance tactics? Just because you don't feel under imminent attack does not equal not being under imminent attack.

[entrangermercenary]

soldiers sux - let'em get what they deserve

Elaborate more im interested by what u mean by that

[jayelowell]

the person who had a major part in my awakening was in the military...
canibus army freestyle - YouTube

[duckingdafta]

Imagine every soldier in the world given orders to attack at the same time and all of a sudden a 'Hundred Monkey Syndrome' kicked in with an enlightenment of no longer following orders and thinking for themselves in a passive manner.. and they all down tools at the same time, stumping TPTB in their tracks. (it would be like one giant drug everyone had taken but they haven't actually taken anything, it could simply mean stopping the crap chemicals already in our atmosphere).
This is why (I think anyway) our soldiers are training foreign soldiers in these countries they are 'peace keeping' in as it would be easier to get foreign soldiers to do the policing in UK than it would to get British soldier to police in the UK if it came to martial laws and shooting their own in riots (which are marches deliberately infiltrated into riotous situations really). This is another reason NLP and Tavistock type programs keep racism an issue.. keep the divisions amongst us.. gladly this is one area people are waking up fast IMO.

Make a grave for the unknown soldier
Nestled in your hollow shoulder
The unknown soldier

[danster82]

Well I think the danger is to tar all cops and military with the same brush. But what I see as the future is personal responsibility, we desperately need to learn this virtue because currently you can go fight an illegal war and kill innocence which is exactly what happening and it doesn't matter if your good bad or ugly you are an attributing factor towards this and you need to take personal responsibility for yourself i.e dont be a part of it. if no one did what the elite told us they would have no power there would be no war there would be no cops able to abuse the public on the street.

And yes I do not support the troops, in my opinion thats just another propaganda line that regardless of what the wars about we must support our troops, its just another way of saying you must support our war. No I dont support them I feel sorry for them If they didnt know better and they were influenced into it but they have no support from me if they did then I wouldn't be taking responsibility for myself as I would be adding to the agenda of the elite.

[samson]

soldiers sux - let'em get what they deserve

This remark betrays the exact mindset that the NWO wants you to uphold. A very detrimental mindset.

Its equal to saying "woman sux" or "darkhaired people sux". In other words, it is a mindset that does not have reason and sobriety and affection as its guidingforce but, no insult intended, stupidity. The same stupidity that got us in this predicament in the first place and the same stupidity that we have to leave behind if we are to ever escape it.

[entrangermercenary]

Imagine every soldier in the world given orders to attack at the same time and all of a sudden a 'Hundred Monkey Syndrome' kicked in with an enlightenment of no longer following orders and thinking for themselves in a passive manner.. and they all down tools at the same time, stumping TPTB in their tracks. (it would be like one giant drug everyone had taken but they haven't actually taken anything, it could simply mean stopping the crap chemicals already in our atmosphere).
This is why (I think anyway) our soldiers are training foreign soldiers in these countries they are 'peace keeping' in as it would be easier to get foreign soldiers to do the policing in UK than it would to get British soldier to police in the UK if it came to martial laws and shooting their own in riots (which are marches deliberately infiltrated into riotous situations really). This is another reason NLP and Tavistock type programs keep racism an issue.. keep the divisions amongst us.. gladly this is one area people are waking up fast IMO.

Make a grave for the unknown soldier
Nestled in your hollow shoulder
The unknown soldier

Hi Ducking
I can assure you now that if any foreign soldiers are policing on the streets of the UK I give you my word now that myself and all other like minded ex soldiers will be fighting them street by street house by house:mad: I have served in the british millitary ( NOT the army) BUT I have served in foreign armies. We are not all morons ( I got 1 cse I think :p)imo

[lordzoma]

It's far from too late to wake up the military and police. To wake them up would be the Illuminati's worst nightmare. Wheteher we like it or not, the police and the army ARE HUMAN and so are their families. And they are not immune from being awakened.

Not all of them!

[duckingdafta]

Hi Ducking
I can assure you now that if any foreign soldiers are policing on the streets of the UK I give you my word now that myself and all other like minded ex soldiers will be fighting them street by street house by house:mad: I have served in the british military ( NOT the army) BUT I have served in foreign armies. We are not all morons ( I got 1 cse I think :p)imo

believe me I don't think anything negative of soldiers for doing a job... and I have only ever met one who was a moron (he happen to be a mate of mine...but still a moron! and an MPolice).. besides the few you get to see on youtube and like I doubt many morons would survive. Personally I haven't ever been in the army/military all I have done is the odd escort/driver work as a civvy..and as a civilian in Colchester for a few month ... but I have to say they do what I daren't do.. so respect to them..

I do believe more are leaving for the very reason they wanted to defend their country.. and know this isn't now what's being asked of them.

[entrangermercenary]

believe me I don't think anything negative of soldiers for doing a job... and I have only ever met one who was a moron (he happen to be a mate of mine...but still a moron! and an MPolice).. besides the few you get to see on youtube and like I doubt many morons would survive. Personally I haven't ever been in the army/military all I have done is the odd escort/driver work as a civvy..and as a civilian in Colchester for a few month ... but I have to say they do what I daren't do.. so respect to them..

I do believe more are leaving for the very reason they wanted to defend their country.. and know this isn't now what's being asked of them.

No probs:cool:

[steevo]

Not all of them!

true!