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lennart
29-08-2008, 05:34 PM
We all believe in the conspiracy that the ones who are really controlling us are not seen in public and is probably a small group of people.

I,ve never believed that it was all about power...because they already had that! I also never believed that they do what they do because they like to kill people...that love it and that they do it because, wel...they are just evil!

It,s rediculous to think that! IT MAKES NO SENSE!

There is also another side of the story....their side. But are you willing to listen?

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

This channel on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/djhives)points it out very clear.

makemyday
29-08-2008, 05:42 PM
'Sheeple' were fooled, and yes, laziness and greed of people was comfortable to set the game play like this... But nobody chose to play, people were dragged in this, but nobody explained the rules :D

jayelowell
29-08-2008, 05:46 PM
but nobody chose to play, people were dragged in this, but nobody explained the rules :d:d:d:d

zero1
29-08-2008, 05:48 PM
'Sheeple' were fooled, and yes, laziness and greed of people was comfortable to set the game play like this... But nobody chose to play, people were dragged in this, but nobody explained the rules :D

There are no rules. ;)

I don't care, but the Conspiracy genre appears to be everybody against everybody trying the stop others who aren't even interested.

Icke, Tsarion, Jones and the rest all get bashed by detractors who argue with and harass their supporters. Meanwhile, if they exist, the "Illuminati" are indifferent or amused. Name-calling is pathetic...

What bullcrap...

makemyday
29-08-2008, 05:50 PM
That's the only rule - no rules! :D

lennart
29-08-2008, 05:50 PM
Well, because most awakend souls where never a sleep. Thats the reason why it,s so difficult to wake up others....you are not one of them. You are an outcast. The black-sheep.

listen: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

makemyday
29-08-2008, 05:52 PM
Oh, I remember this song! Love it, but 'Unforgiven II' version sounds better for me :cool:

lennart
29-08-2008, 05:53 PM
Nice song hey?

The old bitter man in the song could be you....if you keep failing to see that you can not wake up others except for the ones that have the ability(very few) to already see it!

spiraltrance
29-08-2008, 05:55 PM
We all believe in the conspiracy that the ones who are really controlling us are not seen in public and is probably a small group of people.

I'm sometimes inclined to believe the whole conspiracy movement has become a form of mind-control to lower the vibration of those who seek to be free and awake.

The more you believe you'r ruled by a hidden elite the more you'll tune into an existance that manifests it.

duckingdafta
29-08-2008, 05:57 PM
man alive...talk about being slow and never getting to the point... I sat there actually waiting for it to start ..instead it was one big intro...

makemyday
29-08-2008, 06:00 PM
man alive...talk about being slow and never getting to the point... I sat there actually waiting for it to start ..instead it was one big intro...


Well said... endless intro.

lordzoma
29-08-2008, 06:00 PM
I'm sometimes inclined to believe the whole conspiracy movement has become a form of mind-control to lower the vibration of those who seek to be free and awake.

The more you believe you'r ruled by a hidden elite the more you'll tune into an existance that manifests it.

Let me just be clear here.

All the elite WANT is for everyone to be of a lower vibration so they could more easily be controlled.

A movement based on truth frees people whether they react to it positively or negatively or not.

Oh, and to reinforce something.

CONSPIRACY movement?

Laughably pathetic attempt to put a bow on the box and tie it up.

It's ignoring the shapeshifters that got them to where they are in the first place. Believing that focusing on them and ousting them to the light gives them power is a not so subtle way of saying you can't do anything.

Well the joke's on all of us in that sense, because there's nothing anyone can do to change the fate of the planet and its' people. The result is set in stone and there's no way to stop any of it. All you can do is enjoy the EXPERIENCE for what it is and spiritually grow from it. You're playing this game now, but you won't be forever. That's what you signed up for when you joined.

duckingdafta
29-08-2008, 06:05 PM
I love the line: "But first we have to realize the most important thing you could ever realize if you claim to be an intelect"..

doesn't it just make you laugh out loud when people talk about another persons intellect in a patronizing way only to find they themselves can't spell the fucking word!... you crack me up as an excuse for a human...

moonshine
29-08-2008, 06:12 PM
man alive...talk about being slow and never getting to the point... I sat there actually waiting for it to start ..instead it was one big intro...




Agreed! It was also created by djhives(a Shill or Madman?), who blocks you if you just ask a question, agree with him or even disagree him.:mad:


Taken from one of his videos:


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Dj and nemesis, I see this everyday where I am at,the sheep punish and jail the free thinkers

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BLOCKED AND BANNED for inciting an alliance with the sheep!

BLOCKED AND BANNED

Nice!:rolleyes:

tejas
29-08-2008, 06:18 PM
that was a retarded waste of my time

moonshine
29-08-2008, 06:19 PM
that was a retarded waste of my time

:D Lmao!

You think that's bad, check this out:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

:eek:

moonshine
29-08-2008, 06:20 PM
Taken from that video:
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Your ego has gotten too big, your understanding of waking up too distorted, and your point with this video is lost.

I think you've done your best in trying to "enlighten" people, but it has failed and now you're full of hate and missing the point of waking up, and being awake. Your video has some strange elements in it, and is kind of black and white.

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moonshine
29-08-2008, 06:23 PM
Another one, taken from the 'Die' video:
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You'll probably just censor this, so I don't know why I bother.

You're alienating the person you used to be, all of us had to be a sheep at some point.

You're pushing away the very people that we need to fight this, the Mob is indeed stupid and ignorant, but they are also being controlled.

We need to subvert the control mechanisms of society to save them; The Media, Government, etc.

Not condemn them to hell for being what you and I were once too.
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BLOCKED AND BANNED!!

What a fascist !:rolleyes:

noobcybot
29-08-2008, 06:28 PM
Anyone who communicates by DOING THIS is surely not enlightened.

But this concept keeps coming up, based on the idea that nothing is inherantly evil. I have to disagree, good and evil seem things very easy to define for me, the idea that evil as a force does not existing just doesant make any sort of sense to me.
On Alex Jones I am not sure he is that important. To me he is a fire and brimstone preacher who spreads an interesting message, it pretty much ends there, take in his info, evaluate it and move on.
What gets me is the idea that the Illuminati are good, when if they do exist they have clearly spent most of their time making up lies and have directly changed the lives of millions because of this. One of their biggest lies was to confuse us about the afterlife, they have always been liars, why does the maker of this video not approach the concept that the divine is inside us? It is like he took a wrong turn ( Iam not saying I took the right one ) when he came to the question "What is the real reason the Illuminati are having a go at world domination?"

ex sheep
29-08-2008, 07:02 PM
Nice song hey?

The old bitter man in the song could be you....if you keep failing to see that you can not wake up others except for the ones that have the ability(very few) to already see it!


I was a sheep hook line and sinker, and you are saying its not possible to be woken up, I don't think so my friend. IF I CAN BE WOKEN UP , ANYONE CAN.

We should be saying lets try and wake people up.
Not, don't try and wake people up it's not possible.
At least if you try, you have done something good.
And peace be with you, my friend. Always.

and justice for all
29-08-2008, 07:11 PM
that was a retarded waste of my time

lol

I feel for you... I felt for that kind of crap once (never again) and I do want those 15 minutes of my life back!

jayelowell
29-08-2008, 07:12 PM
this thread should b trashed

and justice for all
29-08-2008, 07:14 PM
...But this concept keeps coming up, based on the idea that nothing is inherantly evil. I have to disagree, good and evil seem things very easy to define for me, the idea that evil as a force does not existing just doesn't make any sort of sense to me.

second that!

awakensong
29-08-2008, 07:26 PM
I'm sometimes inclined to believe the whole conspiracy movement has become a form of mind-control to lower the vibration of those who seek to be free and awake.

The more you believe you'r ruled by a hidden elite the more you'll tune into an existance that manifests it.
I would agree with this, and add that the more it's talked about, the more we give our energy to help create it.

kevstodd
29-08-2008, 08:50 PM
We all believe in the conspiracy that the ones who are really controlling us are not seen in public and is probably a small group of people.

I,ve never believed that it was all about power...because they already had that! I also never believed that they do what they do because they like to kill people...that love it and that they do it because, well...they are just evil!

It,s ridiculous to think that! IT MAKES NO SENSE!

There is also another side of the story....their side. But are you willing to listen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqpEfGrwRxM

This channel on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/djhives)points it out very clear.

(spelling mistakes corrected ;))
MMMMMMMMMmmmm what does this point out ? CLEARLY that you hate everyone ?? your a fool trying to peddle your nonsense here !.

there you go again !! (trying to discredit the truth seekers !!!!) HOW can you say the illuminate are good :eek:, looks like you are desperate to get all this dis info about Alex Jones and David Icke out .next you will be saying that killing people in satanic rituals and enslaving the masses throughout history all the way back to Atlantis and before is a good thing !! and before you go saying i am a sheeple for researching their works I'd just like to point out that im on my own journey of self discovery and the lies and nonsense that you seem to be posting will not be sway me from continuing on my path of enlightenment (i see through your liessssssssss).
WHO ARE YOU ?? YOU SEEM LIKE A DIS INFO AGENT TO ME !! i've got to be honest with you (illuminate spokesman) your nonsense makes me laugh. :rolleyes:

kevstodd
29-08-2008, 08:52 PM
this thread should b trashed

agreed ;)

revolutionary_jam
29-08-2008, 08:53 PM
sorry i really cant watch a vid by a company caleld DIE SHEEPLE DIE, i tried but i just cant do it

zero1
29-08-2008, 08:53 PM
I would agree with this, and add that the more it's talked about, the more we give our energy to help create it.

You nailed it, exactly.

xpleet
29-08-2008, 09:04 PM
It takes an enormous spiritual effort to truely understand evil and the way of darkness, but it is there and it rules this world.

kevstodd
29-08-2008, 10:02 PM
It takes an enormous spiritual effort to truely understand evil and the way of darkness, but it is there and it rules this world.

thats right ;) ive been studying the occult and esoteric stuff a lot lately and even just got all of Alister Crowleys ebooks, i wouldn't have commented about what lennart has been spewing out if i had not as that would be kind of ignorant but yup your right there like bud it drains the hell out of ya ,pardon the pun :D

zen_fox
29-08-2008, 10:23 PM
I'm replying to say that I didn't watch it and that text movies are a horrible creation. Stop making them. You're doing the world a great dishonor.

spiraltrance
29-08-2008, 10:45 PM
It takes an enormous spiritual effort to truely understand evil and the way of darkness, but it is there and it rules this world.

I'd say the balance between good and evil in the world is equal.

zen_fox
29-08-2008, 11:14 PM
Good and evil exist in the same place as the unicorns and fairies, only within the mind.

mahabaratara
29-08-2008, 11:15 PM
I wish people would stop using the word Sheeple..

FFS...

Its was and is and will continue to be a war on consciouness...

What gives any of you any right to call anyone else a sheep...

The "awakend" ones bleeting that actually no its the others in their flock that are asleep...

What makes you so superior...?

Nothing does...

Except your arrogance...

I weep...

steevo
29-08-2008, 11:17 PM
Sheeple Sheeple Sheeple :D

thelucifer
30-08-2008, 12:31 AM
We all believe in the conspiracy that the ones who are really controlling us are not seen in public and is probably a small group of people.

I,ve never believed that it was all about power...because they already had that! I also never believed that they do what they do because they like to kill people...that love it and that they do it because, wel...they are just evil!

It,s rediculous to think that! IT MAKES NO SENSE!

There is also another side of the story....their side. But are you willing to listen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqpEfGrwRxM

This channel on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/djhives)points it out very clear.


Good ? No.

At best some of the "illuminated ones" see themselves as a necessary evil, which is “good” according to a corrupt mind.
The others are simply worse.

gordonfreeman
30-08-2008, 12:33 AM
Global Illuminati Silent Civil War anymore? Some hate each other.

danster82
30-08-2008, 09:04 AM
I think your wrong when you say.

"It,s ridiculous to think that! IT MAKES NO SENSE! " This is somthing that prevents alot of people understanding how they work and the reason is you think that you wouldnt do such and such or act such a way because your coming at it from your perspective as a relatively unevil person.. when you start understanding their persepective and seeing examples of their actions and work then you understand how it does make sense to them, you need to contemplate what total selfishness actually means and then realize there are totaly selfish people at least one in ten from my experience.

So what does it mean to 100% selfish a totally mechanical state of consciousness, well you know you are not operating from that consciousness and so anyone who does it will seem to make no sense.

The Illuminati in my opinion seemed to be "good" from its conception but was hijacked by those and turned into what it is today either that or the knowledge that was released to them increasingly gave them a sense of power untill it eventually corrupted them. Its hard for god to release knowledge to us weak humans without us using it for the self it would seem.

lennart
30-08-2008, 11:29 AM
First: that youtube channel is not mine!
second; I,m not a disinfo-pig!

I think it,s insane to think that this group of people or beings that are rulling over humanity is doing it for power. I,m beginning to see that there is a point to this whole thing that is going on....they are cleaning up earth so it seems!

And, by the internet mainly, everyone gets a chance and more to see what is comming....it,s not judgement day...but judgement time!

Who will stay on the sinking ship? Who will think for himself and who will obey rules? Who are human....and who are robots!

size_of_light
30-08-2008, 11:51 AM
this thread should b trashed

Nods.

lennart
30-08-2008, 11:53 AM
ziggy marley tomorrow people - YouTube

Tomorrow people, where is your past?
Tomorrow people, how long will you last?
Tomorrow people, where is your past?
Tomorrow people, how long will you last?

Today you say you deyah
Tomorrow you say you're gone
But you're gone so long
If there is no love in your heart - so sorry
Then there is no hope for you - true, true

Tomorrow people, where is your past?
Tomorrow people, how long will you last?
Tomorrow people, where is your past?
Tomorrow people, how long will you last?

So you're in the air
But you still don't have a thing to spare
You're flying high
While we're on the low o-o-oh

Tomorrow people, where is your past?
Tomorrow people, how long will you last? Tell me now
Tomorrow people, where is your past? No where
Tomorrow people, how long will you last? Ten years!

Stop tellin' me the same story
Today you say you deyah
Tomorrow you say you're gone and you're not coming back
If there is no love in your heart oh now
There will never be hope for you

Tomorrow people, where is your past?
Tomorrow people, how long will you last? Ten years!
Tomorrow people, where is your past?
Tomorrow people, tomorrow people, come on
Tomorrow people, tomorrow people, come on
Tomorrow people, tomorrow people, no soon come
Tomorrow people, tomorrow people, soon come
Tomorrow people, tomorrow people, today is here

If you don't know your past, you don't know your future
Everyone
Don't know your past, don't know your future everyman
Don't know your past, don't know your future, come on
Don't know your past, don't know your future

How many nations
How many people did that one catch
How many

limelady
30-08-2008, 12:02 PM
Well people have a right to their opinion.

If its not to your liking, just move along......which is what I'm about to do right now. :)

duckingdafta
30-08-2008, 12:03 PM
Ziggy Marley is wank... he is a disgrace to the name his father had... kind of makes me think you're doing this as a deliberate wind up as many decent messages could have come from Bob and you had to choose a knob.

lennart
30-08-2008, 12:07 PM
I think that song is wunderfull! I also want a society full of love and full of people who trully respect each other. But it will never happen.....unless you take the robots out!

tusme
30-08-2008, 04:41 PM
We all believe in the conspiracy that the ones who are really controlling us are not seen in public and is probably a small group of people.

I,ve never believed that it was all about power...because they already had that! I also never believed that they do what they do because they like to kill people...that love it and that they do it because, wel...they are just evil!

It,s rediculous to think that! IT MAKES NO SENSE!

There is also another side of the story....their side. But are you willing to listen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqpEfGrwRxM

This channel on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/djhives)points it out very clear.
Hi Lennart,

If that is "djhives's" best (online) shot at trying to make us all believe the illuminati is "good", then, imo the illuminati has more to worry about than us... :D

Cheers

kingmonkey
30-08-2008, 04:51 PM
This DJHives is a complete cock.

lennart
30-08-2008, 07:24 PM
this thread should b trashed

agreed ;)

Yeah...that,s true freedom:rolleyes:

agelnessdotcom
30-08-2008, 08:18 PM
We all believe in the conspiracy that the ones who are really controlling us are not seen in public and is probably a small group of people.

I,ve never believed that it was all about power...because they already had that! I also never believed that they do what they do because they like to kill people...that love it and that they do it because, wel...they are just evil!

It,s rediculous to think that! IT MAKES NO SENSE!

There is also another side of the story....their side. But are you willing to listen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqpEfGrwRxM

This channel on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/djhives)points it out very clear.

Does everyone miss the point? I had higher expectations here I must say... THEY don't think they're evil... THEY think THEY're doing Gods work...!!! It's all hunky-dory with them and THEIR RELIGION etc. to chop up and eat babies and what have you, but do YOU agree...??? Well, THAT's the question, duh...!!! "They already had power" only because we gave it to them in the first place and still do... Above all they live on people who THINK their lives are ok... On people who actually think they can really vote for anyone... On people who couldn't care less for "wars" against Iraq and Afghanistan... On people who just can't fathom that everything they need is INSIDE of them and doesn't need "angels", "akashic records" and "spiritual masters" etc. The only reason people might see and hear such things is they have put themselves down to such a degree everything "spiritual" must come from the outside with someone or something else... That's the mind control and programming we see not just internally but all around us and is also the ultimate reason we're here at all...!!! We're here because we need to project out in physical reality what we think we can't handle internally... In that illusion the Illuminati have created another illusion we call "life"...

agelnessdotcom
30-08-2008, 08:44 PM
I would agree with this, and add that the more it's talked about, the more we give our energy to help create it.

NO! It's the other way around...!!! Everyone knows the saying "it's all talk and no action...". Well, that's exactly why talking about this is good, because it takes away the energy behind it!

dondaz
30-08-2008, 08:46 PM
Some useful info in these vids. They do, however, fail to address the manipulation put in place to entrap people into being lazy thinking sheep.

People do need to learn to stand up for themselves & this shit wouldn't happen to them.

'You know the jungle creed say that the strongest feed, on any prey it can, and I was branded beast at every feast, before I ever became a man!'

Good Metallica lyrics

New blood joins this earth
And quickly he's subdued
Through constant pained disgrace
The young boy learns their rules

With time the child draws in
This whipping boy done wrong
Deprived of all his thoughts
The young man strugggles on and on he's doomed
A vow unto his own
That never from this day
His will they'll take away

If any of you want to learn how to stand up for yourselves check these links out. Don't be lazy, this stuff works, but you have to work hard to get it:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33112

http://www.youtube.com/TheFreemanChannel

http://www.thinkfree.ca

http://www.tpuc.org (http://www.tpuc.org)

duckingdafta
30-08-2008, 08:57 PM
I am going to find this hard to word..please bare with me..
..so are you saying we as humans now in this day and age are in effect constantly searching for ways to become enlightened or higher spiritually aware than I 'think' I am at the moment {oops..skipped to personal}... when we already have all we need within us and just hand that power over...through compliance with that system of false beliefs like religions and societies... and whilst those who are religious pray and worship, they are in fact praying to the same Gods they regard as evil...so also giving away their energies.

man I babble.. I've read that back to myself three times and can't work it out!..but part of my mind feels elsewhere at the moment for some reason...so can't write properly (sounds weird in itself)

agelnessdotcom
30-08-2008, 09:09 PM
I am going to find this hard to word..please bare with me..
..so are you saying we as humans now in this day and age are in effect constantly searching for ways to become enlightened or higher spiritually aware than I 'think' I am at the moment {oops..skipped to personal}... when we already have all we need within us and just hand that power over...through compliance with that system of false beliefs like religions and societies... and whilst those who are religious pray and worship, they are in fact praying to the same Gods they regard as evil...so also giving away their energies.

man I babble.. I've read that back to myself three times and can't work it out!..but part of my mind feels elsewhere at the moment for some reason...so can't write properly (sounds weird in itself)

Something like that... :-) Put together David Icke, Matthew Delooze and the Swerdlows and you have what I'm trying to say... :-)

dondaz
30-08-2008, 09:50 PM
A movement based on truth frees people whether they react to it positively or negatively or not.

This is very true! All new information, whether true or not, has an awakening element to it. Obviously true information is what is the real important here, if an 18yr old kid gets in with a group like the bnp, then what he learns from them is waking him up to something he never knew before, even if it's negative information that has a negative impact on him. Therefore, it is possible to wake people up on almost any subject. The key is finding the right strings to pull to get their curiosity, which will in turn light the spark as it has done for us.

I just watched those other two vids where he's trying to convince us to stop waking the sheeple up. There is much nlp going on there, but it is full of holes. Clearly his intention is to plant a seed that resistance is futile, stop fighting tptb and think about yourself. An 'I'm alright Jack, f**k you!' mindset. I bet if I watch all his vids, most, if not all, will be of the same theme. Blame the sheep, blame the sheep, blame the sheep, give up, give up, give up...! Add to that his propensity for banning people who are not putting him down personally, but just challenging his info. Why stick up for the elite when it's the sheeple he hates? It all looks too contrived for it to be a madman making these vids. Remember, all he is doing is trying to plant the seed into our heads, just as we want to do in waking others up.

I won't be adding this guy to my Youtube freinds list!

Good thread!

tusme
30-08-2008, 10:02 PM
Does everyone miss the point? I had higher expectations here I must say... THEY don't think they're evil... THEY think THEY're doing Gods work...!!! It's all hunky-dory with them and THEIR RELIGION etc. to chop up and eat babies and what have you, but do YOU agree...??? Well, THAT's the question, duh...!!! "They already had power" only because we gave it to them in the first place and still do... Above all they live on people who THINK their lives are ok... On people who actually think they can really vote for anyone... On people who couldn't care less for "wars" against Iraq and Afghanistan... On people who just can't fathom that everything they need is INSIDE of them and doesn't need "angels", "akashic records" and "spiritual masters" etc. The only reason people might see and hear such things is they have put themselves down to such a degree everything "spiritual" must come from the outside with someone or something else... That's the mind control and programming we see not just internally but all around us and is also the ultimate reason we're here at all...!!! We're here because we need to project out in physical reality what we think we can't handle internally... In that illusion the Illuminati have created another illusion we call "life"...
Hi Agelnessdotcom,

Well, it's not so much about anyone "missing the point", as it is about, whether "djhives" and his dodgy videos, should actually be taken seriously...!? ;)

And the fact, you went "hammer n' tongs", analysing this rather insignificant "illuminati wannabe", does not auger well for your own understanding of this "game"... ;)

Cheers!

banoyes
30-08-2008, 10:07 PM
We all believe in the conspiracy that the ones who are really controlling us are not seen in public and is probably a small group of people.

I,ve never believed that it was all about power...because they already had that! I also never believed that they do what they do because they like to kill people...that love it and that they do it because, wel...they are just evil!

It,s rediculous to think that! IT MAKES NO SENSE!

There is also another side of the story....their side. But are you willing to listen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqpEfGrwRxM

This channel on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/djhives)points it out very clear.

The Illuminati simplifies it !!

The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' he defined it as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.''

I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles
and empiricism.
He cut me off.

''That's not the way the world really works anymore,''
he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will --
we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out.

We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'
-- quote from the Ron Suskind article-10/2004 !

http://www.channelingreality.com/The_Coup/Barnett_Intro.htmhttp://www.channelingreality.com/The_Coup/Barnett_Intro.htm

The Illuminati are not good by any definition.
if you choose surrender
you may be a "happy" slave

agelnessdotcom
30-08-2008, 10:36 PM
Hi Agelnessdotcom,

Well, it's not so much about anyone "missing the point", as it is about, whether "djhives" and his dodgy videos, should actually be taken seriously...!? ;)

And the fact, you went "hammer n' tongs", analysing this rather insignificant "illuminati wannabe", does not auger well for your own understanding of this "game"... ;)

Cheers!

"hammer n' tongs" is needed everywhere these days...

dondaz
30-08-2008, 10:41 PM
We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'

Much of the ptb info is disinfo too. They are not the be and end all of knowledge. They just want us to think that is so, but it isn't. Look how they boost themselves up in the media, how innocent they try to make themselves look like to the lowly masses. They do this also in other ways too. How powerful they are depends on the illusion they create about themselves. They are clever at mind games, but they are not the masters they want to be. Which is why they have a dumbing down manipulation system in place. Because they constantly live in fear, a fear that goes to their core!

Anyone heard of Indigo Humans/People?

awakensong
30-08-2008, 10:56 PM
NO! It's the other way around...!!! Everyone knows the saying "it's all talk and no action...". Well, that's exactly why talking about this is good, because it takes away the energy behind it!
Great way to stay hysterical and in fear (which is how your post reads), if that's what you like.

awakensong
30-08-2008, 11:00 PM
Does everyone miss the point? I had higher expectations here I must say... THEY don't think they're evil... THEY think THEY're doing Gods work...!!!

It's important to know who "their" 'God' is. They don't think they're evil, we know they are. Talking about this endlessly only drains us of our energy and lowers our vibrations. They're only too happy to have us fighting and arguing over even this point.

agelnessdotcom
30-08-2008, 11:45 PM
It's important to know who "their" 'God' is. They don't think they're evil, we know they are. Talking about this endlessly only drains us of our energy and lowers our vibrations. They're only too happy to have us fighting and arguing over even this point.

So that's why David makes his seven hour talks and even provides this forum? I don't think so, but I do think everyone must question everything simply to get closer to their own inner knowing... And the energy thing is true... Many a good idea etc. has been talked into never happening simply because it was talked out of energy... We have very little awareness of the power of our words and many other things for that matter...

tusme
31-08-2008, 01:08 PM
By Agelnessdotcom
Many a good idea etc. has been talked into never happening simply because it was talked out of energy... We have very little awareness of the power of our words and many other things for that matter...
Hi Agelnessdotcom,

If only more of us would have this kind of observation/awareness in our lives, we'll intantly change our World into a positive one...very well said!! ;)

Cheers!

banoyes
31-08-2008, 02:19 PM
It's important to know who "their" 'God' is. They don't think they're evil, we know they are. Talking about this endlessly only drains us of our energy and lowers our vibrations. They're only too happy to have us fighting and arguing over even this point.
Do you think David Icke is drained of his energy?
You build your own wall
I am even more energized with discourse
and please
do not claim what is not yours to claim
"our energy" does not translate to your energy"
my vibrations are not "our vibration"
You're bringing me down sister

alexph777
31-08-2008, 04:55 PM
I love being a sheeple. This wool make me sooooooo ohhhhhhh! And I go AWWWWWWW.... :D

Wool! Wool! I talk bloody sheep language!!! Heee Heee.

Should I get my fluffy wolf body guard or minder in case you attack me.

My middle name is now "Peter Pan". Can you see your reflection? Have we learned anything yet? Do we have to get this close the the edge of the cliff and look at the abyss below. Ohhh dear the brown stuff is coming fast. And we get wrapped up our stories and beliefs, and waste our energy, all the while the agenda and horrors continue...

The hands on the clock are going around. Tic Toc Tic Toc......

banoyes
31-08-2008, 08:24 PM
I love being a sheeple. This wool make me sooooooo ohhhhhhh! And I go AWWWWWWW.... :D

Wool! Wool! I talk bloody sheep language!!! Heee Heee.

Should I get my fluffy wolf body guard or minder in case you attack me.

My middle name is now "Peter Pan". Can you see your reflection? Have we learned anything yet? Do we have to get this close the the edge of the cliff and look at the abyss below. Ohhh dear the brown stuff is coming fast. And we get wrapped up our stories and beliefs, and waste our energy, all the while the agenda and horrors continue...

The hands on the clock are going around. Tic Toc Tic Toc......
An angel showing leg
and writing words
that make me scratch my head
O dear
I think the sky is falling

gracimusic
31-08-2008, 10:43 PM
The more you believe you'r ruled by a hidden elite the more you'll tune into an existance that manifests it.

Yes, I support that.

bendoon
31-08-2008, 10:50 PM
I,ve never believed that it was all about power...because they already had that!

Nope, they have never controlled the entire Earth, they have never had the technology till now, even now someone keeps throwing a spanner in the works but they still carry on till they have full control.


I also never believed that they do what they do because they like to kill people...that love it and that they do it because, wel...they are just evil!

Anyone who drops a Nuclear weapon on a city full of people is evil (Hiroshima), no other word for it really. I believe they enjoy it too.

lennart
01-09-2008, 12:14 AM
Nope, they have never controlled the entire Earth, they have never had the technology till now, even now someone keeps throwing a spanner in the works but they still carry on till they have full control.




Anyone who drops a Nuclear weapon on a city full of people is evil (Hiroshima), no other word for it really. I believe they enjoy it too.

You know...maybe you are right!

I,m a little confused.....i,m off now smoking a big joint...some wodka/cola...and think things over again and again...

It,s difficult if you have a heart and feelings....if you shut that down it,s not so difficult to understand....but i,m still human...

alexph777
01-09-2008, 02:16 AM
An angel showing leg
and writing words
that make me scratch my head
O dear
I think the sky is falling

The point is that people have so much of an elitist attitude and so eager to look down on others. Because they do not have any respect for others and also themselves - what is within is without. Ok, so people might be programmed and following the one in front but they have every right to be who they want to be. Anyway, they are really showing something about us. They have everyright to be who they want to be. If we cannot handle that then we have no right be free.

Sometimes I see the typical religious fundamentalist preacher in many conspiracy people. They can be just as much under mind control and programmed as those they say are asleep or docile.

And while we get caught up in name calling, big ego and anything else that barely merits brain cell activity the illuminati agenda continues. Too bad people cannot see this because we are so wrapped up in ourselves and power plays.

BTW your response is typical of NLP programming and quite frankly a bit of a bore and also quite sad.

tim the enchanter
01-09-2008, 02:34 AM
We all believe in the conspiracy that the ones who are really controlling us are not seen in public and is probably a small group of people.

I,ve never believed that it was all about power...because they already had that! I also never believed that they do what they do because they like to kill people...that love it and that they do it because, wel...they are just evil!

It,s rediculous to think that! IT MAKES NO SENSE!

There is also another side of the story....their side. But are you willing to listen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqpEfGrwRxM

This channel on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/djhives)points it out very clear.

Simple minded excuse making dogma.

lennart
01-09-2008, 02:58 AM
You know i have been thinking...:P The thing is...where we are now as for humanity it needs control! But where we came from...we don,t know! Nobody has anything real to support any claim of humans rulling this space once or whatever.

Personally i don,t need control as for most on this board....but take a look outside..THEY do need control...if not, they will kill you! I,ve seen enough of it in my life to believe that is the truth!

Someone here said that you can wake up everyone....that,s just crazy nonsense if you ask me, please...by now you should see it...i can see it! Lets say, 99% of the people who are awake where already awake. I also created a topic about that wich was moved for some reason, take a look at it because most people agreed with that! (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33129).

So are they right? Well, i have to come back at that one....because i simply don,t know what happend in human history!

banoyes
01-09-2008, 04:56 AM
The point is that people have so much of an elitist attitude and so eager to look down on others. Because they do not have any respect for others and also themselves - what is within is without. Ok, so people might be programmed and following the one in front but they have every right to be who they want to be. Anyway, they are really showing something about us. They have everyright to be who they want to be. If we cannot handle that then we have no right be free.

Sometimes I see the typical religious fundamentalist preacher in many conspiracy people. They can be just as much under mind control and programmed as those they say are asleep or docile.

And while we get caught up in name calling, big ego and anything else that barely merits brain cell activity the illuminati agenda continues. Too bad people cannot see this because we are so wrapped up in ourselves and power plays.

BTW your response is typical of NLP programming and quite frankly a bit of a bore and also quite sad.
yup
well
I agree
The way we are gonna be what we are meant to be
is by the power of intention
You may like this
1. HUMANITY'S BUTTERFLY MOMENT!
I know many may still be feeling pain and the "sense" of loss after some incredibly tough energetic months, and some are walking around concerned with the void they seem to be in, and judging it as something wrong. Nothing is wrong.
The pain, sense of loss the void and even lack of preference and lack of energy is coming from your Divine Self being stabilized.
This is a massive transformation and transmutation.
Divine Self stabilizes when human nature and former ego identity is moved out of its way.

Until I return I wish you all more love than you can imagine. Remember to embrace your new beginnings. You are in a butterfly moment in time.
Don't get weighed down by the old cocoon! Namaste,

http://www.worldpuja.org

There is a group meditation 14 September
I participate in a couple
sometimes they are just awesome
Sorry for boring you
It was just a quick poem
an you are a litle obtuse,at times,it seems
I wish you the best