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entheogen
29-08-2008, 02:08 PM
For all of you that know what fluoride does - and are waiting for the 'public debate' I hate to announce this but its happeneing right now - infront of your eyes.

The consultation will happen in the form of a flyer that will be given out and most likely be put into many of the local free newspapers that are circulated in many areas.

You know the one that most paperboys throw away - and then if it ever does reach you - you also throw it straight in the bin.

http://www.thisishampshire.net/news/hampshirenews/display.var.2418252.0.pcts_fluoride_leaflet_called _propaganda.php

It gets better - anybody who does read the flyer but then does not contact the strategic health department to officialy protest against the fluoride scheme will be counted as being in agreement with water fluoridisation.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/fluoride/display.var.2334604.0.fluoride_could_be_added_to_w ater_regardless_of.php

The ones that do get the flyer and do protest - will there no vote will only be counted if they are deemed to have enough knowledge / credentials etc to make a judgement - otherwise it will be dismissed !

Ladies and gentlemen boys and girls - its time to rise !

bicycle
29-08-2008, 02:17 PM
Link?

entheogen
29-08-2008, 02:25 PM
The government today insist on playing such a huge part in our lives - right ?

Its almost like there an invisible but all powerful member of the family - the one who calls the shots but you never see.

OK - consider this...

If you found out member of your family - Wife / Husband - Mother / Father had been trying to poison you and the rest of your family by feeding them false information and lying to them at ever point along the way in order to achieve the goal - what would you do ?

If you found out - like the public are doing - and managed to stop this poisoning - what then ?

Do we all go home and celebrate our victory over the government - power to the people !!!

Hold on a second - they are trying to poison you and your family - should we not be asking one or two more questions here !

And for all those who think they can dodge this - fluoride can also be found in :

- Baby Formula
- Milk
- Teflon Coatings on Pans
- Tampons
- Concentrated Fruit Juice

.....the list is endless !

The time is now - we are the ones we have been waiting for.

logic bomb
29-08-2008, 02:27 PM
Link?

entheogen
29-08-2008, 02:36 PM
http://www.thisishampshire.net/news/hampshirenews/display.var.2418252.0.pcts_fluoride_leaflet_called _propaganda.php

Here is how they wish to run this so called 'public debate'

entheogen
29-08-2008, 02:50 PM
And here is how - if the voting doesnt turn our right they will distort the truth

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/fluoride/display.var.2334604.0.fluoride_could_be_added_to_w ater_regardless_of.php

madthumbs
29-08-2008, 03:18 PM
And for all those who think they can dodge this - fluoride can also be found in :

- Baby Formula
- Milk
- Teflon Coatings on Pans
- Tampons
- Concentrated Fruit Juice

.....the list is endless !

The time is now - we are the ones we have been waiting for.

Don't forget tea and fluoridated salt.

entheogen
29-08-2008, 03:23 PM
The good old british cuppa !

How could I forget ?

entheogen
29-08-2008, 05:57 PM
Well thats me packing in the day job to go and confront these idiots

Enough is enough I say - how can I protect my son whilst knowing this information and not acting on it

Ive contacted the Public Health / Strategic Health & Environmental Health offices - each of them is passing the buck !!

I have now been waiting 3 days for a call back from my 'local' MP !

I will not go away and they will have to face me sooner rather than later and the only way they will get rid of me is to brand me a terrorist and throw away the key - but Im not free now so it makes no difference

Bring it on !

lostinstrangeworld
02-09-2008, 10:38 PM
Anyone know what areas of the UK are currently affected?

entheogen
08-09-2008, 03:11 PM
WEST MIDLANDS
NORTH EAST
IRELAND

http://www.dwi.gov.uk/consumer/concerns/fluoridemaps.pdf

lookfar
08-09-2008, 04:44 PM
Hi entheogen

Thanks for posting this very important thread.

I am quite shocked at the way they are going about this. I live in the area in question and have not to date received any such leaflet. How they can say that 'if you don't actually oppose it, then you accept it' is beyond me - I'm not a happy bunny about this:mad:

I've been ranting a bit at work just now but unfortunately the ones I'm sat with are not sharing my views & seem to think it's great stuff & good for kids teeth, ggrrr!!!:mad:

I'm going to send the South Central Strategic Health Authority an email explaining my concerns about this & strongly urge anyone else to do the same, whether you are in the area to be affected or not. We cannot sit back & allow them to medicate our water supply without our consent. People really need to be made aware of the dangers of this before it's too late.

Here are the contact details if you need them:

http://www.southcentral.nhs.uk/page.php?area_id=12

Contact details
Write to Strategic Health Authority at:

South Central Strategic Health Authority
First Floor
Rivergate House
Newbury Business Park
London Road
Newbury
Berkshire
RG14 2PZ

Tel: 01635 275500
Fax: 01635 33983

If you would prefer to contact the SHA reception desk via email click here

For a map to the SHA office click here. Please note: parking is available at the rear of Rivergate House on the top floor of the car park only. Please park in designated bays only.

Contact details for other NHS South Central offices and directions are:

Winchester office
Highcroft
Romsey Road
Winchester
SO22 5DH
Tel: 01962 863511
Fax: 01962 893738

Oxford Post Graduate Medical & Dental Education
The Triangle
Roosevelt Drive
Headington
Oxford
OX3 7XP
http://www.oxford-pgmde.co.uk/
Tel: 01865 740601
Fax: 01865 740636

loderlive
08-09-2008, 05:24 PM
the ones I'm sat with are not sharing my views & seem to think it's great stuff & good for kids teeth, ggrrr!!!:mad:

Intellect is to put fluoride in the water, wisdom is to brush your teeth!

ho8day
11-09-2008, 11:44 PM
Just posted this message to them, hope it has an effect and they dont go ahead with it but it sounds like ther gona anyway!!


Please do not medicate my water supply with out my consent. I am extreemly against Fluoridating the souths drinking water not to mention bath water, garden water, car washing water, central heating water, washing machine water, dish washer water, toilet flushing water! the list could go on. If you really want to improve peoples teeth (all though im sure this is not the real agenda here) then it would be more cost efective to supply it on subscription to people who actually want it. I hope this has swayed your decision slightly.

Yours sincerely

Paul

entheogen
17-09-2008, 11:29 AM
Just an update

As posted I went to see my MP on Friday last week about the fluoride issue as he is against it

I wanted to find out if he was actually against it or if he was the 'other side' of the argument

Truth is Mr David Crausby MP seemed quite a genuine person - but wouldnt talk about any scientific evidence regarding fluoride - his issue was purely a legal one regarding mass medication of the entire population against there will

What he did say though is that he was in a very small minority and a very small voice in comparision with the the pro fluoride MP's - whenever he spoke out on the issue he was treated like some sort of 'nut job' who was trying to damage childrens teeth !!!

I told Mr Crausby that I would be raising mass public awareness on this as well as many other issues in the near future - and he seemed quite pleased but slightly worried at the same time

So my point is ... if an MP can be cast down for being a minority voice on an issue which should really be a 'no brainer' - but has been spun and sold to the public through mis-information and corruption at the highest level then what chance for the rest of us right ?

The only way to change is for the minority to become the MAJORITY - and the only way to do that is to UNITE - NOW !

I left my job last week and me and my family will have to make huge sacrifices in order to fight for our freedom - yet at this point in time we stand alone

Without strength in numbers we will fall one by one - so lets get together - lets share our knowledge - lets organise ourselves and each other to reach others

entheogen
25-09-2008, 07:43 PM
I spoke to the Headteacher of my daughters school as they were promoting a book last week called de-toxing children

So I told her a little bit about fluoride... which she knew nothing of

I gave her one of 2 peices of evidence - then made an appointment to go and see her next week - where I will be presenting her with a shed load of facts and studies which prove what Fluoride REALLY is

On the way out I said to her - just supposing you see my evidence and decide for yourself that Fluoride really is a deadly poison - what then - will you make a stand and speak out to protect the children in your school ?

Her response - I wouldnt be allowed to do that as it goes against what the local authority are saying - therefore she must agree with them - regardless of what she feels personally on the issue

???? - I thought Head Teachers were supposed to have the safety of their children as a number ONE priority

Thats where we are now - in a society that doesnt question or think for itself - that ignores personal views and thoughts - no matter how important in order to do the bidding of the person above them in the chain

I will be back there next week with the evidence - and a voice recorder also in my pocket

Its about time we played these organisations at there own game

If they can record us - lets record them also

I will let you all know the outcome

-x-

fromthatshow
25-09-2008, 09:25 PM
what do you brush your teeth with then? anything?

lostinstrangeworld
25-09-2008, 09:26 PM
Aloe Dent toothpaste is good.

fromthatshow
25-09-2008, 09:31 PM
thank ya :)

entheogen
26-09-2008, 12:04 PM
Fluoridisation IS against EU Human Rights

Our Government is breaking the law by fluoridating our water supplies

We need to get as many people together as we can to sue our government and also our local councils - british dental association - strategic health authority- local water boards - britsh fluoride society - the list is endless

Health secretary Alan Johnson and the rest of our government should be fired on the spot - or made to resign at very least

Personally I think charges should be brough against him and the rest of these idiots for criminal / medical negligence on a mass scale

Most people arent aware of what fluoride actually is - but when presented with the enormous amount of evidence available, then even the least intelligent person could realise fluoride is a deadly cumulative poison

Alan Johnson is the UK Governments Secretary for health - its his job to protect our health and to be in the know about this - so either he is mentally retarded (maybe his water is fluoridated) - or he is advocating and actually pushing for a continued mass poisoning of our population

.... oh and remind me again who employes this man - who gave him this position of power ?

I rest my case

entheogen
29-09-2008, 10:28 PM
Been doing some research on fluoride / alzheimers - and there is a link with alluminium pans

In a nutshell the alluminium in pans will bond with the fluoride present in the water - or in pesticides that are sprayed on the vegetables

This fluoride allows the alluminium easy access to pass into the brain cells

The link - Alluminium has been found on the brains of alzhiemers patients
- Alzhiemers really only began to be prominent after the 2nd world war - when alluminium pans became all the rage

Can any one suggest another alternative to alluminuim pans - other than iron ones maybe which I believe they cost the earth ?

Has anyone else looked at the link between the 2 chemicals or the alluminium - alzhiemers link ???

Im sure there would be hundreds of people who would be suing the government if this can be verified

Alluminium + Fluoride = Alluminati

Big Love


-x-

entheogen
29-09-2008, 10:30 PM
And also -

Just thought

The fluoride they put in the water is a by-product of the alluminium industry also

So the 2 compliment each other nicely

They make the pans - sell them to us - then the toxic soup that is left - they charge US to put it in the water

Genius - the fluoride keeps us docile, lowers our IQ... then (if we havent died due to fluoride letting all the other chemicals into our brain) when we get old there has been enough alluminium deposited in our brain cells to ensure we cant even remember our own names

london_lad_84
30-09-2008, 10:01 AM
The government today insist on playing such a huge part in our lives - right ?

Its almost like there an invisible but all powerful member of the family - the one who calls the shots but you never see.

OK - consider this...

If you found out member of your family - Wife / Husband - Mother / Father had been trying to poison you and the rest of your family by feeding them false information and lying to them at ever point along the way in order to achieve the goal - what would you do ?

If you found out - like the public are doing - and managed to stop this poisoning - what then ?

Do we all go home and celebrate our victory over the government - power to the people !!!

Hold on a second - they are trying to poison you and your family - should we not be asking one or two more questions here !

And for all those who think they can dodge this - fluoride can also be found in :

- Baby Formula
- Milk
- Teflon Coatings on Pans
- Tampons
- Concentrated Fruit Juice

.....the list is endless !

The time is now - we are the ones we have been waiting for.

How can there be Fluoride in milk? Cows flush out fluoride and other toxins before their body uses water to make milk.

entheogen
30-09-2008, 11:37 AM
Cows do what ???

If only it where that simple - Fluoride is a cummulative poison

It stores itself in within the bodies of all animals and fish and plants

It has a devastating effect on larger animals such as cows and horses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3STwBBOEgI

But if that isnt enough

The health authority have ADDED fluoride to our childrens milk in schools

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/children-to-get-fluoride-in-school-milk-702791.html

Hope that answers your question

london_lad_84
30-09-2008, 11:58 AM
Cows do what ???

If only it where that simple - Fluoride is a cummulative poison

It stores itself in within the bodies of all animals and fish and plants

It has a devastating effect on larger animals such as cows and horses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3STwBBOEgI

But if that isnt enough

The health authority have ADDED fluoride to our childrens milk in schools

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/children-to-get-fluoride-in-school-milk-702791.html

Hope that answers your question


How does fluoride store itself inside bodies for a lifetime?

Bodies detoxify themselves regularly.

entheogen
30-09-2008, 12:11 PM
Fluoride stores itself in bones and teeth - only around half of the fluoride you take into your body actually gets passed through

Oh and another fantastic place its stores itself - the pineal gland in the centre of the brain - once there its calcifies this part of the brain

If you dont know what the pineal gland is used for - have a look - scary :eek:

london_lad_84
30-09-2008, 01:26 PM
Fluoride stores itself in bones and teeth - only around half of the fluoride you take into your body actually gets passed through

Oh and another fantastic place its stores itself - the pineal gland in the centre of the brain - once there its calcifies this part of the brain

If you dont know what the pineal gland is used for - have a look - scary :eek:

If what you say is true, then our bodies are already damaged and permanently affected by fluoride.

There must be a way of removing fluoride from the body.

nesht
30-09-2008, 02:58 PM
Been doing some research on fluoride / alzheimers - and there is a link with alluminium pans

In a nutshell the alluminium in pans will bond with the fluoride present in the water - or in pesticides that are sprayed on the vegetables

This fluoride allows the alluminium easy access to pass into the brain cells

The link - Alluminium has been found on the brains of alzhiemers patients
- Alzhiemers really only began to be prominent after the 2nd world war - when alluminium pans became all the rage

Can any one suggest another alternative to alluminuim pans - other than iron ones maybe which I believe they cost the earth ?

Has anyone else looked at the link between the 2 chemicals or the alluminium - alzhiemers link ???

Im sure there would be hundreds of people who would be suing the government if this can be verified

Alluminium + Fluoride = Alluminati

Big Love


-x-



I use stainless steel pans; aluminium is also used in deodorants too and I can remember hearing about the links between aluminium and alzheimers years ago.

lookfar
30-09-2008, 03:28 PM
I use stainless steel pans; aluminium is also used in deodorants too and I can remember hearing about the links between aluminium and alzheimers years ago.

I also use stainless steel pans. There are also quite a few "aluminium free" deodorants about now too. Why the hell do they put aluminium in them anyway?:confused:

entheogen
01-10-2008, 12:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hw spartan
I forgot to mention, somewhere i came across
that the biggest danger is when we shower?
becouse, fluoride when in steam form, is actaully
very poisiness, like we are getting gased.
would this be true?
and if it is, WTF


Very Very true - showers and baths are one of the most effective ways fluoride passes into the body.

Not only the gases from the steam vapour - but the fluoride will actually pass through the skin directly into the blood stream

Another link SLS - which is in over 90% of shampoos and body washes - not only has SLS got a proven link with asthma

SLS is used by pharma companies to increase absorbtion of chemicals into the skin

It is estimated this increases fluoride absorbtion through the skin by a further10%

And to add insult to serious injury - SLS is also found in toothpastes which can contain up to 2,500ppm of fluoride

Consider this against the 1ppm that our Governments in their infinite wisdom have considered 'safe'

Lokk this up for yourselves - the evidence is available

Surely all these animal rights people should be fighting for us as well

Our children are the biggest experiments

hw spartan
02-10-2008, 05:08 AM
SLS is used by pharma companies to increase absorbtion of chemicals into the skin

It is estimated this increases fluoride absorbtion through the skin by a further10%

Basically ,they created a chemical, to help boost there other chemicals(evil)
the way insulin works on body?

WOW:cool:

mojoarizona
02-10-2008, 10:29 AM
I also use stainless steel pans. There are also quite a few "aluminium free" deodorants about now too. Why the hell do they put aluminium in them anyway?:confused:

There is a geat deodorant called Lavalin. I have used it for 25 years, ever since I became aware of it, it works, you use it every couple days and it is a cream that reacts with the bacteria in the sweat glands. You do sweat out toxins, but there is no smell, it is fabulous. Auminum is also linked to the wire in underwire bras, so watch out for that also. I have used nothing but cast iron for 25 years as well,the same pots and skillets my mum got me for my first apartment when I was 19 :)

lookfar
02-10-2008, 11:09 AM
There is a geat deodorant called Lavalin. I have used it for 25 years, ever since I became aware of it, it works, you use it every couple days and it is a cream that reacts with the bacteria in the sweat glands. You do sweat out toxins, but there is no smell, it is fabulous. Auminum is also linked to the wire in underwire bras, so watch out for that also. I have used nothing but cast iron for 25 years as well,the same pots and skillets my mum got me for my first apartment when I was 19 :)

Hi mojoarizona (love the name:))

Cool, I'll have to look it up & give it a go...

OMG, not alunimium in bras as well, is nothing safe anymore?!:eek: But it does have fabric around it, so would that stop it from effecting your skin? I sure hope so! Although going by the above posts, we are ingesting so much of these toxins already, I don't think this would make me consider taking the wire out of my bra, lol:) It also appears that bathing is bad now, OMFG!!:eek:

entheogen
02-10-2008, 12:15 PM
As far as I am concerned - and I have been studying what fluoride is and what it does for a while now - and my dad before me

I call it the key to the door of our brains.

Not only does it slow us down and make us docile;. But then there are other chemicals mixed into this toxic soup they tell us is 'fluoride'

Chemicals such as :

- Arsenic
- Lead
- Bromide
- Mercury
- Silicon = Hexafluorasilicic Acid

This is the important bit they dont tell you - because Hexafluorasilicic acid has never been tested by any governmant to be safe - ever.

In fact it is a by-product of the alluminium and fertilizer industries - which would cost an a FORTUNE to dispose of.

So they call it Fluoride AND CHARGE US to get rid of it for them - by drinking it !

The evidence for this is readily available - both on the web - and through the freedom of information act

This in its own right should be enough to tell us the people who run this show are criminals - and need bringing to justice NOW

i WILL ASK HERE FIRST - ANYONE FROM THE mIDLANDS - WHO HAS BEEN AFFECTED BY FLUORIDE / FLUORIDE RELATED ILNESSES PLEASE MEASSAGE ME

THERE NUST BE A CASE TO TAKE THESE MASS MURDERERS TO COURT - EUROPEAN COURT

LOOK IT UP !
LOCK THEM UP !!!

eternal_spirit
14-10-2008, 06:47 AM
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