My Order (to answer some questions)

[masonic3]

I am in the Order “Stabat mater dolorosa “ (Or “The Seven Sorrows” or it can also be known as the “Seven swords”)
http://www.wf-f.org/WFFResource/Deposition.jpg
All of our ritual is in Latin, I bear the right to carry one of swords at the moment but its not a sword if you can understand, the sword is symbolism for something else (which I can not say)
http://www.casa-in-italia.com/artpx/flem/images/Bening_attributed_Seven_sorrows_Maria.jpg
This part of the order is linked to the Vatican (Catholic church) .which sounds strange I know, my order goes back before Christ.
My order is where the saying “Someone think of the widows son, Someone think of the widows son, Someone think of the widows son” which is a Masonic saying.
http://bookstobucks.com/OtherOnlinePictures/widows%20son.jpg
There is ways to find out about my Order as its one of the oldest, we are also linked to the “Stabat Mater Knights of Malta “
To find out more about mine there is clues in classical music from the 12th century, in fact a lot of clues as a certain writer was part of this degree back then.

http://www.galway.net/galwayguide/history/hardiman/chapter6/james_ii.jpg

"Quando corpus morietur fac, ut animae donetur paradisi glorig. Amen." 1267.

[eternal_spirit]

Okay seeing as though we have all the masons ex masons in on this thread asnwer this question?

The Masonic rituals and iniciation ceromonies are exactley the same as witches of the occult etc is this true???

Afterall the hexagram(hex means to curse someone) It's also known as the seal of Solomon, Solmon being a high magician witch. All the symbols pentagram etc etc are the same used in witchcraft.

Then we have religons especially the jewish religion based on the Kabbala sytem of magick, the Roman catholic mass which satanists have a parody of known as the black mass, seems to be about drinking blood etc. It's all connected that's al I know.

Fact is masons can be involved in any religion ot orgonisation they choose as long as if push comes to shove their true masters are th high masters of masonry.

So if you know you're stuff, lets seperate fact from fiction????????????? Share the knowledge!
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[masonic3]

Okay seeing as though we have all the masons ex masons in on this thread asnwer this question?

The Masonic rituals and iniciation ceromonies are exactley the same as witches of the occult etc is this true???

Afterall the hexagram(hex means to curse someone) It's also known as the seal of Solomon, Solmon being a high magician witch. All the symbols pentagram etc etc are the same used in witchcraft.

Then we have religons especially the jewish religion based on the Kabbala sytem of magick, the Roman catholic mass which satanists have a parody of known as the black mass, seems to be about drinking blood etc. It's all connected that's al I know.

Fact is masons can be involved in any religion ot orgonisation they choose as long as if push comes to shove their true masters are th high masters of masonry.

So if you know you're stuff, lets seperate fact from fiction????????????? Share the knowledge!
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The Masonic rituals and iniciation ceromonies are exactley the same as witches of the occult etc is this true???

Yes but ours is not for evil, we do the same styles but not to the same thing

Afterall the hexagram(*1*hex means to curse someone) It's also known as the seal of Solomon, Solmon being a high magician witch. All the symbols pentagram etc etc are the same used in witchcraft.
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Or it is know as the star of David? See! Same thing but a diffrent out come.(good of you to notice that!)

*1* Yes

Fact is masons can be involved in any religion ot orgonisation they choose as long as if push comes to shove their true masters are th high masters of masonry.


Why do we care? As we control them too? So it will not come up.

[eternal_spirit]

Afterall the hexagram(*1*hex means to curse someone) It's also known as the seal of Solomon, Solmon being a high magician witch. All the symbols pentagram etc etc are the same used in witchcraft.

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So do you believe the same symbol the star of david (hexagram) can be used for postive magick to heal instead of curse????? M3

[masonic3]

Afterall the hexagram(*1*hex means to curse someone) It's also known as the seal of Solomon, Solmon being a high magician witch. All the symbols pentagram etc etc are the same used in witchcraft.

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So do you believe the same symbol the star of david (hexagram) can be used for postive magick to heal instead of curse????? M3

Yes and they are!! We also bless our self, most masons I know live pass there 80, for a fact.

We do so much for charity and heal such alot of people, that its hard to cover up.

We are not bad people you know.

[eternal_spirit]

Okay thanks for clearing that one. I've said this before, my uncle was a mason, don't know the name of the order, i'll have to ask family and find out, but he was a good egg. :) But he's dead now.

[masonic3]

Okay thanks for clearing that one. I've said this before, my uncle was a mason, don't know the name of the order, i'll have to ask family and find out, but he was a good egg. :) But he's dead now.

I am sure he was a good person, or he wouldn't of been a Freemason.

Why do you think Icke shits his self when he meets a Freemason? :o :o

I have never met a bad freemason, I have only met bad people out side the Brotherhood.

[phoenix1]

I noticed the post above The Widows Son and found this on the subject Masonic 3 , I pasted the words below within the lines BTW OK
Is the below true, or deeper as I suspect, does it relate to the Hiraim Key, and if so how so.

Also the seven Swords what does that say to YOU directly, Tell us more about the Seven Steps, Seven Swords, Seven Seals, and the Seven Unspeakable Secrets if you feel you can.

Also can you dish us YOUR angle on The Original Torah (the one on the 300 foot scroll) which no one can see in it's original form, and where is it The Vatican ?? , and why was the Pentateuch split into 5 books, also why is the book of Jasher so un promoted.

And also what is your take on The Emerald Tablets of Thoth/Hermes and also on the Book of Law.

Just interested to see what you say
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"Oh Lord, my God - who will help the Widow's Son?" ... This is indeed a masonic code phrase. "The Widow's Son" is a code for a certain historical personage that inner Freemasonry revolves around. It is commonly believed to refer to Hiraim, chief builder of Solomon's Temple, but the easy answers are usually the wrong answers.

When a Freemason performs a good deed for someone, they might say "I did it for the Widow's Son.".

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Thanks
Phoenix

[truthsayer]

I am sure he was a good person, or he wouldn't of been a Freemason.

Why do you think Icke shits his self when he meets a Freemason? :o :o

I have never met a bad freemason, I have only met bad people out side the Brotherhood.

I know Freemasons and they are anything, but "good eggs" and they certainly do not do good deeds.

As for Icke, I think you are very much mistaken and by all accounts delusional.

A good person does not profess themselves to be good, they just are. Your statement regarding the -so called- good nature and deeds of Freemasons would say suggest otherwise.

[eternal_spirit]

I know Freemasons and they are anything, but "good eggs" and they certainly do not do good deeds.

As for Icke, I think you are very much mistaken and by all accounts delusional.

A good person does not profess themselves to be good, they just are. Your statement regarding the -so called- good nature and deeds of Freemasons would say suggest otherwise.


I disagree, not all masons are bad people. Anway this is off subject. What's the point about Icke?

[tinmenace]

Hey M3. Long time no see! :)

My question is why this magickal knowledge is withheld from the general population? Why is it not shared? Why also, in it's true form, is freemasonry a male-only organization?

[eternal_spirit]

Hey M3. Long time no see! :)

My question is why this magickal knowledge is withheld from the general population? Why is it not shared? Why also, in it's true form, is freemasonry a male-only organization?


I'll try fill in in M3's abscence, it's Saturday night he'll be at the Lodge bar drinking with the boys.


They want to keep the knowledge for themselves to stay in control, it's also secret (maybe i say maybe alot because I don't really know)because some it isn't real.
They prefer boys to girls. Some rituals especially as they progress upwards to the higher degrees involve acts of homo sexuality.

One of there agendas is apparantley to creat a heamaphroditic human in the image of thier God Baphomet(through genetic engineering)who is a haemaphrodite both male and female. You know in the religous books it's always God created everything, they never mention him breeding with a Godess.

See when they reach the higher degrees they consider themselves the great architect of the universe(God)

Another ritual which goes back further than modern day masonry also part of todays higher degrees, is to become a uenoc by removing their penis. this is supposed to stop them from thinking about or having sex so they can spend more time and energy in pursuit of more spiritual matters.

There is a female order known as the eastern star, don't know if there are others. M3 where the hell are you, we want you're input.

[eternal_spirit]

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9453/baphometch2.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Baphomet the haemaphroditic God notice the female breasts!

[masonic3]

I noticed the post above The Widows Son and found this on the subject Masonic 3 , I pasted the words below within the lines BTW OK
Is the below true, or deeper as I suspect, does it relate to the Hiraim Key, and if so how so.

Also the seven Swords what does that say to YOU directly, Tell us more about the Seven Steps, Seven Swords, Seven Seals, and the Seven Unspeakable Secrets if you feel you can.

Also can you dish us YOUR angle on The Original Torah (the one on the 300 foot scroll) which no one can see in it's original form, and where is it The Vatican ?? , and why was the Pentateuch split into 5 books, also why is the book of Jasher so un promoted.

And also what is your take on The Emerald Tablets of Thoth/Hermes and also on the Book of Law.

Just interested to see what you say
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"Oh Lord, my God - who will help the Widow's Son?" ... This is indeed a masonic code phrase. "The Widow's Son" is a code for a certain historical personage that inner Freemasonry revolves around. It is commonly believed to refer to Hiraim, chief builder of Solomon's Temple, but the easy answers are usually the wrong answers.

When a Freemason performs a good deed for someone, they might say "I did it for the Widow's Son.".

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Thanks
Phoenix

Phoenix, thank you for your reply and interest:
The Widows Son (The Phrase)
I have to be careful on this subject but I will give you some quotes from my ritual book(Some words are not complete because they are secret, but they are written like this in my book, just in case I lose it)
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From my Ritual book:
D.D- Whom have you the...?
D.D- Whom have you the...?
D.D- Whom have you the...?
mm(D.D to hit the C.G on t.. of h… on each a..)
C.G- The widows Son
C.G- The widows Son
C.G- The widows Son

C.G- The son has left the e….., now clear his path to thy n…...

D.D- The path as clear as the day of b……

M(C.G Razes his sword to the setting sun with quote)
C.G- The Widows Son dies, let thy soul be granted
the glory of Paradise.

(All)Drove it be .
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I have to learn this in Latin, which is not that hard after a while.
You see, the Widows son is Jesus…..
The widow is Mary…….

Now it leads us on to what happened to Joseph? Well hes dead at this point.

I can’t answer these questions; you need to find out from the bible or Net maybe:

Why is Joseph dead?
Who killed Joseph?
Why was he killed?

These three questions are part of or secrets.


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The Seven Swords:( Unspeakable Secrets)
This is also a large part of the secrets of the order but, as I said before some classical music from the 12th century has them all in.
The ritual above is from the seventh sword, which I bear the right to.
I have the office of “Carrying Guard “
Try and google “the seven swords”
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The Original Torah: This has its links to freemasonry, look towards Jewish subject
Pentateuch: This as a subject is to do with, who killed Joseph(Can’t say no more)
Jasher: I have no information on this.

Sorry but I do not have much information to tell you on this.
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[masonic3]

Hey M3. Long time no see! :)

My question is why this magickal knowledge is withheld from the general population? Why is it not shared? Why also, in it's true form, is freemasonry a male-only organization?


Hello Tinmenace;)
It was shared once, but the population, didn't care and forgot over time.
Then after a few thousand years the people want to know again.
We see it as, you had your chance why should we remind you?
Its in all of you somewhere.
like the number "seven" most poeples lucky number is "Seven"? (May it have links to the seven swords?)

No afence ment, about not telling you.

[masonic3]

I'll try fill in in M3's abscence, it's Saturday night he'll be at the Lodge bar drinking with the boys.


They want to keep the knowledge for themselves to stay in control, it's also secret (maybe i say maybe alot because I don't really know)because some it isn't real.
They prefer boys to girls. Some rituals especially as they progress upwards to the higher degrees involve acts of homo sexuality.

One of there agendas is apparantley to creat a heamaphroditic human in the image of thier God Baphomet(through genetic engineering)who is a haemaphrodite both male and female. You know in the religous books it's always God created everything, they never mention him breeding with a Godess.

See when they reach the higher degrees they consider themselves the great architect of the universe(God)

Another ritual which goes back further than modern day masonry also part of todays higher degrees, is to become a uenoc by removing their penis. this is supposed to stop them from thinking about or having sex so they can spend more time and energy in pursuit of more spiritual matters.

There is a female order known as the eastern star, don't know if there are others. M3 where the hell are you, we want you're input.


I'll try fill in in M3's abscence, it's Saturday night he'll be at the Lodge bar drinking with the boys.

First off, i do not drink and yes I was at lodge.

They want to keep the knowledge for themselves to stay in control, it's also secret (maybe i say maybe alot because I don't really know)because some it isn't real.
They prefer boys to girls. Some rituals especially as they progress upwards to the higher degrees involve acts of homo sexuality.

One of there agendas is apparantley to creat a heamaphroditic human in the image of thier God Baphomet(through genetic engineering)who is a haemaphrodite both male and female. You know in the religous books it's always God created everything, they never mention him breeding with a Godess.

See when they reach the higher degrees they consider themselves the great architect of the universe(God)

Another ritual which goes back further than modern day masonry also part of todays higher degrees, is to become a uenoc by removing their penis. this is supposed to stop them from thinking about or having sex so they can spend more time and energy in pursuit of more spiritual matters.

This is all rubbish and i could "Report" this as an attack torwards me.

[i am all i am]

I noticed the post above The Widows Son and found this on the subject Masonic 3 , I pasted the words below within the lines BTW OK
Is the below true, or deeper as I suspect, does it relate to the Hiraim Key, and if so how so.

Also the seven Swords what does that say to YOU directly, Tell us more about the Seven Steps, Seven Swords, Seven Seals, and the Seven Unspeakable Secrets if you feel you can.

Also can you dish us YOUR angle on The Original Torah (the one on the 300 foot scroll) which no one can see in it's original form, and where is it The Vatican ?? , and why was the Pentateuch split into 5 books, also why is the book of Jasher so un promoted.

And also what is your take on The Emerald Tablets of Thoth/Hermes and also on the Book of Law.

Just interested to see what you say
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"Oh Lord, my God - who will help the Widow's Son?" ... This is indeed a masonic code phrase. "The Widow's Son" is a code for a certain historical personage that inner Freemasonry revolves around. It is commonly believed to refer to Hiraim, chief builder of Solomon's Temple, but the easy answers are usually the wrong answers.

When a Freemason performs a good deed for someone, they might say "I did it for the Widow's Son.".

---------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks
Phoenix

G'day Phoenix, how are you brother ?

Not much in the way of answers here !!!

Here are some links that you may be interested in having a look at...

‘The Secret Teachings of All Ages’ - Manly P. Hall
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/
http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/texts/bl_secretteachings.htm

‘The Lost Keys of Freemasonry’ – Manly P. Hall
http://altreligion.about.com/library/texts/bl_lostkeys.htm

‘Rosicrucian and Masonic Origins’ – Manly P. Hall
http://altreligion.about.com/library/texts/bl_rosicrucianmasonicorigins.htm

‘The Nature of the Absolute’ – Manly P. Hall
http://altreligion.about.com/library/texts/bl_natureabsolute.htm

And here is there page with freemasonry...
http://altreligion.about.com/od/freemasonrymasonry/Masonry_Freemasonry_and_CoMasonry.htm

Also some books by Max Heindel...
http://altreligion.about.com/sitesearch.htm?terms=max%20heindel&SUName=altreligion&TopNode=2879&type=1

I haven't looked at all of them yet, but I do have a copy of 'The Lost Keys of Freemasonry'. I'll do a bit more research and get back to you brother.


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[eternal_spirit]

First off, i do not drink and yes I was at lodge.



This is all rubbish and i could "Report" this as an attack torwards me.

The drinking at the bar was joke dude! Ever heard the saying to drink like a templar(in public they didn't drink behind closed doors they drank mega style) maybe you don't drink for health reasons fair enough)

As for my post you saying it's rubbish. I know why you say this. I'm to close to the truth, you either don't know the agenda, because you're not a high enough degree, or you're trying to cover up the truth.

[eternal_spirit]

The widows sun.....Thought An angel impreganted mary without having sex with her wasn't this the immaculate conception? The virgin Mary and all that, surley impossible for her to get pregnant without having sex? A miracle an act of magick? An illusion a trick?

Unless she was artifically inseminated.

[i am all i am]

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4075/maxheindelmp0.jpg

The accompanying chart shows graphically the three Ages mentioned in this article:

(1) The First Age, when each human being was a complete creative unit, male-female, double sexed, and ruled by one Hierarch, Melchisedec, who filled dual office as King and Priest.

(2)The Second Age,when th division of the raceinto men and women, and the division of the rulership into the State and Church caused war and strife.

The State espouses the cause of Fatherhood and Man and upholds the male ideal of Arts, Crafts and Industry, embodied in Hiram Abiff.

The Church espouses the cause of Motherhood and Woman and holds aloft the female ideal of love, and hearth and home embodied in the Madonna and her child.

It is the conflicting interests of the man and the woman, the home and the shop, the Church and the State, which cause the economic struggle, the war and the strife with which mankind is cursed and which make all long and pray for the reign of peace.

(3) The Third Age, when a divine Christ, who, like Melchisedec, shall fill the dual office of King and priest, and shall rule over a purged and glorified humanity, which has risen from sex-love to soul-love.

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This image and description is from "Part V The Mystery of Melchasedec" of the above mentioned book. Notice the all-seeing eye in the middle of the chart. Also notice the name Melchisedec.

Could there be a connection to Drunvalo Melchisedec ???

Is he the Christ figure that is to become the masonic King and priest ???



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[ho1ogram]

This is all rubbish and i could "Report" this as an attack torwards me. As you are a confessed liar don't bother reporting it to me.
Ok I Give up, I was asked here to take you from the truth I don't care any more,
My real name is S. H M I am 48 years old.

That all I will sayhttp://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2165&page=2 post #51

What's this thread for m3, you on a recruitment drive?

I have never met a bad freemason, I have only met bad people out side the Brotherhood.
Then fuck off back to the brotherhood. Report that you troll. (any repremand is worth it... if it feels good do it..:D)

eternal spirit said: Some rituals especially as they progress upwards to the higher degrees involve acts of homo sexuality.
Homo or hetero, sex is fun between consenting adults. Masonic or anyother ritualised sex is sick and serves to feed the matrix by sucking the participants etheric energy.

I disagree, not all masons are bad people. Anway this is off subject. What's the point about Icke?
The lowly ones don't know what they are involoved in. The point about Icke? m3's job is to muddy the waters and provide a distraction so people will say "look, Icke's a mason and so is everyone on his forum.."

[masonic3]

As you are a confessed liar don't bother reporting it to me.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2165&page=2 post #51

What's this thread for m3, you on a recruitment drive?

Then fuck off back to the brotherhood. Report that you troll. (any repremand is worth it... if it feels good do it..:D)

Homo or hetero, sex is fun between consenting adults. Masonic or anyother ritualised sex is sick and serves to feed the matrix by sucking the participants etheric energy.

The lowly ones don't know what they are involoved in. The point about Icke? m3's job is to muddy the waters and provide a distraction so people will say "look, Icke's a mason and so is everyone on his forum.."

Please remove your post, its saying nothing but how small minded you are.
I have reported your post, hope you get points for it.
Is Icke a Mason?

[i am all i am]

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You get points from me Ho1ogram !!! Be free brother.


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[masonic3]

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You get points from me Ho1ogram !!! Be free brother.


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Its the samr old thing, thats all you can say?!

Its above you all this, your the ones that will never know.
A cheap laugh now and then 1000 years of hard Labour so laugh as much as you want.
I will laugh with you.

HHHa hha haha hhahahah hhha hhahahahha hahha

http://www.blogadorn.com/graphics/_artists/coop/coop00085.jpg

[purple is a fruit]

Please remove your post, its saying nothing but how small minded you are.
I have reported your post, hope you get points for it.
Is Icke a Mason?


All his post did was show you up for the fool that you are:D

A lot of post reporting for you this evening.

[masonic3]

All his post did was show you up for the fool that you are:D

A lot of post reporting for you this evening.

:rolleyes:

[lottie]

I'd like to ask you a couple of questions M3,

1) Why do you want to be involved in something so secretive? Im not attacking you in anyway, i'd just like to know, personally i wouldnt want to be involved in a 'hood' or group of any kind that was not prepared to include everyone and anyone no matter who they are.

2) Since you come on here (forum) and obviously read a lot on here- i assume you are aware that most freemasons never progress higher than the bottom three levels of degree, the so-called Blue Degrees and they don't realise what their organisation is being used for. Surely you must be aware of what they do since you come on here and have a wealth of info to sift through regarding this, i'll quote Albert Pike from his book 'Morals and Dogma',... 'The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed to the initiate, but he is intentionally mislead by false interpretations. It is not intended that he understand them, but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true implication is reserved for Adepts, the princes of Masonry.'

So with that in mind, why do you wish to be a part of something like that thats misleading you, and also you are aware from coming on here what the organisation is up to at the top levels, so why do you wish to be part of it? Are you happy to be part of something like this? Are you happy being part of something which is delibereately using you and misleading you?

Im sure there are many masons out there who actually are nice/good people but only because they have been falsley sold the idea of the 'brotherhood', but i dont see why you need to be part of that? i mean im a good person, i can still do (and do do) charity work and help people etc etc, but i dont need to be part of a 'brotherhood' or 'sisterhood' (in my case) order to do it- i can do it everday, as aprt of my 'Self-hood'!!

All these questions are merely curiosity and are not in anyway to attack you personally- i do not wish to offend anyone or to engage in any sort of argument or negatvity...i merely want to ask a few questions. Also before anyone accuses me of quoting Ickes work, yes i had some help from my book 'Tales from the Timeloop', as although im aware of all this stuff, academically im not great at putting things down in words and expressing what i wish to say and often need a hand! If you have a problem with answering the questions a simple no thankyou will suffice no explanation needed, i just dont want a slagging match which so often seems to happen on this forum.

Thanks M3.

[masonic3]

I'd like to ask you a couple of questions M3,

1) Why do you want to be involved in something so secretive? Im not attacking you in anyway, i'd just like to know, personally i wouldnt want to be involved in a 'hood' or group of any kind that was not prepared to include everyone and anyone no matter who they are.

2) Since you come on here (forum) and obviously read a lot on here- i assume you are aware that most freemasons never progress higher than the bottom three levels of degree, the so-called Blue Degrees and they don't realise what their organisation is being used for. Surely you must be aware of what they do since you come on here and have a wealth of info to sift through regarding this, i'll quote Albert Pike from his book 'Morals and Dogma',... 'The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed to the initiate, but he is intentionally mislead by false interpretations. It is not intended that he understand them, but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true implication is reserved for Adepts, the princes of Masonry.'

So with that in mind, why do you wish to be a part of something like that thats misleading you, and also you are aware from coming on here what the organisation is up to at the top levels, so why do you wish to be part of it? Are you happy to be part of something like this? Are you happy being part of something which is delibereately using you and misleading you?

Im sure there are many masons out there who actually are nice/good people but only because they have been falsley sold the idea of the 'brotherhood', but i dont see why you need to be part of that? i mean im a good person, i can still do (and do do) charity work and help people etc etc, but i dont need to be part of a 'brotherhood' or 'sisterhood' (in my case) order to do it- i can do it everday, as aprt of my 'Self-hood'!!

All these questions are merely curiosity and are not in anyway to attack you personally- i do not wish to offend anyone or to engage in any sort of argument or negatvity...i merely want to ask a few questions. Also before anyone accuses me of quoting Ickes work, yes i had some help from my book 'Tales from the Timeloop', as although im aware of all this stuff, academically im not great at putting things down in words and expressing what i wish to say and often need a hand! If you have a problem with answering the questions a simple no thankyou will suffice no explanation needed, i just dont want a slagging match which so often seems to happen on this forum.

Thanks M3.

Thank you for your Questions and intrest, I don’t mind talking or answering questions.
--------------------------------------------------------------

I have been studying freemasonry since I was 19 and joined because it felt right, I didn’t get to the higher Degrees till I was 26, now I am at the 15th and will go no higher as I run my level and bear the right to the seventh sword.
The secrets where know by everyone six thousand years ago, “you” as in the public forgot everything, “We” the enlightened ones didn’t.
So its not always been a secret

Albert Pike has no idea but if you want to quote him that’s up to you, I can’t change your mind about him as you will just think I am trying to trick you

I am the top level.

M3

[eternal_spirit]

Nicely put lottie. :D Emotions are running high on here. Just give us you're interpretaion about what you know M3 and we can debate and decide for ourselves.

I wan't to know about the imaculate conception??? The Jewish writings the Tora and the kabbala were a fore runnder to the Bible right? Same knowledge different book.

[eternal_spirit]

Alber Pike was 33rd degree at least. he was the one who started the Klu Klux Clan, who crucified blacks. masons seem to have an obsession with crucifixion.

[i am all i am]

Thank you for your Questions and intrest, I don’t mind talking or answering questions.
--------------------------------------------------------------

I have been studying freemasonry since I was 19 and joined because it felt right, I didn’t get to the higher Degrees till I was 26, now I am at the 15th and will go no higher as I run my level and bear the right to the seventh sword.
The secrets where know by everyone six thousand years ago, “you” as in the public forgot everything, “We” the enlightened ones didn’t.
So its not always been a secret

Albert Pike has no idea but if you want to quote him that’s up to you, I can’t change your mind about him as you will just think I am trying to trick you

I am the top level.

M3

Well, you definitely didn't forget to lie.

What happened to the old, there is only three levels, spiel ???


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[pollock]

I am the top level.

M3

hmmm, is 15th the top level and you are the enlightened one?
Funny not what I would have thought, I guess we dont need to worry about the masons after all!

F

[loveemotion]

Thank you for your Questions and intrest, I don’t mind talking or answering questions.
--------------------------------------------------------------

I have been studying freemasonry since I was 19 and joined because it felt right, I didn’t get to the higher Degrees till I was 26, now I am at the 15th and will go no higher as I run my level and bear the right to the seventh sword.
The secrets where know by everyone six thousand years ago, “you” as in the public forgot everything, “We” the enlightened ones didn’t.
So its not always been a secret

Albert Pike has no idea but if you want to quote him that’s up to you, I can’t change your mind about him as you will just think I am trying to trick you

I am the top level.

M3

Can you please say only advantages and disadvantages of where you are?
LAL

[lottie]

Thank you for your Questions and intrest, I don’t mind talking or answering questions.
--------------------------------------------------------------

I have been studying freemasonry since I was 19 and joined because it felt right, I didn’t get to the higher Degrees till I was 26, now I am at the 15th and will go no higher as I run my level and bear the right to the seventh sword.
The secrets where know by everyone six thousand years ago, “you” as in the public forgot everything, “We” the enlightened ones didn’t.
So its not always been a secret

Albert Pike has no idea but if you want to quote him that’s up to you, I can’t change your mind about him as you will just think I am trying to trick you

I am the top level.

M3


Thanks for answering M3! another question or two then if you don't mind:

You said that 'us' the public have forgotten and 'you' the enlightened ones havn't, well is it not your responsibility to share this forgotten knowledge for the benefit of us all? i mean i don't know what this 'secret' knowledge is but surely if its been kept for so long and has brought about such secret groups to pass on this knowledge then its surely got to be important to 'us' as a human race, so if this knowledge is so great it could well enlighten us all and be something that brings about more good within society as a whole, so why should it be kept a secret? by keeping it a secret from 'us' degrades 'us' and sounds as if we are not worthy to know because we forgot- but how should that be 'my' fault as i was not about in those previous generations to have the choice to forget or carry it on, so i will never know this secret (because not only am i female but) i have missed out because others forgot this secret knowledge. The only thing this leads me to think is that this knowledge is important information and if it is not being shared then obviously those who have it are abusing its power for their own gain, which sounds very dodgy to me. Also reinforces the satanic rituals etc related to it!
I may come across as naieve but i am in my infancy with all this stuff so please excuse me as im sure this has all been said before!

2) I have not studied or do i know who Albert Pike is i have only quoted what he has said as a quote in Ickes book Tales from the Timeloop, but i am assuming as his titles boast; Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of the 33rd degree and Supreme Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry, that he knows what he is talking about but then again if you go further than that- maybe he (A.P.) was putting more disinfo out there to cause more confusion too. Its always a possibility, but im in no way not open to you explaining what you think he knows or doesnt know- so - please enlighten me on that if you would.

Thanks.

[masonic3]

Can you please say only advantages and disadvantages of where you are?
LAL

The money, the time it takes and the thing to remember

[masonic3]

Thanks for answering M3! another question or two then if you don't mind:

You said that 'us' the public have forgotten and 'you' the enlightened ones havn't, well is it not your responsibility to share this forgotten knowledge for the benefit of us all? i mean i don't know what this 'secret' knowledge is but surely if its been kept for so long and has brought about such secret groups to pass on this knowledge then its surely got to be important to 'us' as a human race, so if this knowledge is so great it could well enlighten us all and be something that brings about more good within society as a whole, so why should it be kept a secret? by keeping it a secret from 'us' degrades 'us' and sounds as if we are not worthy to know because we forgot- but how should that be 'my' fault as i was not about in those previous generations to have the choice to forget or carry it on, so i will never know this secret (because not only am i female but) i have missed out because others forgot this secret knowledge. The only thing this leads me to think is that this knowledge is important information and if it is not being shared then obviously those who have it are abusing its power for their own gain, which sounds very dodgy to me. Also reinforces the satanic rituals etc related to it!
I may come across as naieve but i am in my infancy with all this stuff so please excuse me as im sure this has all been said before!

2) I have not studied or do i know who Albert Pike is i have only quoted what he has said as a quote in Ickes book Tales from the Timeloop, but i am assuming as his titles boast; Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of the 33rd degree and Supreme Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry, that he knows what he is talking about but then again if you go further than that- maybe he (A.P.) was putting more disinfo out there to cause more confusion too. Its always a possibility, but im in no way not open to you explaining what you think he knows or doesnt know- so - please enlighten me on that if you would.

Thanks.

The secrets were not always secrets, they are writen in every human and when you find them out, it all makes sence, puts "something above, something below, God is not a lie." Quote:Darren Todd 1946 15th Decon of Mar.

[i am all i am]

The secrets were not always secrets, they are writen in every human and when you find them out, it all makes sence, puts "something above, something below, God is not a lie." Quotearren Todd 1946 15th Decon of Mar.

Could the secret "written in every human" be this below ???

http://www.meru.org/

http://www.meru.org/hndstrc1.gif

http://www.meru.org/Press/6pak72.gif

http://www.meru.org/Posters/frsthandapple.gif

http://www.meru.org/contin.gif

http://www.meru.org/compuimages/1_3anim.gifhttp://www.meru.org/compuimages/10_3anim.gifhttp://www.meru.org/compuimages/tumble.gif

http://www.meru.org/Posters/krst2feb7.jpg



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http://oneheartbooks.com/images/books/large/secret_inthe_bible_lrg.jpg

Above, you can see the same figure on the front of 'The Secret in the Bible', by Tony Bushby. I've lent my copy out at the moment, so I haven't got a clear picture from inside the book, but it is the same figure I found at the Meru Foundation website. Both say that it creates the Hebrew alphabet. Bushby also says that is is from a representation of the DNA strand.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/private.php

In 'The Secret in the Bible', by Tony Bushby, the 22 glyphs of the Hebrew alphabet are shown to be representations of the DNA strand.

"The only Holy Book

For thousnads of years, spiritual teachers of Jewish traditions claimed that the five major Hebrew texts making up the Torah were 'holy', of special significance, and of supernatural origin...and they were right. By producing an exact copy of the spiral shape of the Rainbow Serpent from plastic, brass, a strip of metal or a similar solid substance, its significance becomes apparent, and that item could be best described as 'light descended into matter'. It is the primary element of both the Book of Thoth and the Secret in the Bible and the precise twisty shape of the Rainbow Serpent provides the necessary form to physically demonstrate a major part of the Secret. When the plastic or metal reproduction of the Rainbow Serpent is slowly revolved, 22 different shaped shadows are cast from that one element, and those shapes directly make up the 22 seperate letters of the alphabet that the Torah was written in. Put in simplest terms, the alphabetin which the Torah of the Bible was originally and secretly written was one composed of a series of 22 cosmic glyphs that emanated with 'splendour and power in the form of a serpent' from a vertical spiral of light in the Benben on top of the Great Pyramid in Egypt. Evidence of that knowledge points directly at the undeniable input of a higher intelligence, a superior mind source."

-The Secret in the Bible, by Tony Bushby, page 256.

The "twisty shape of the Rainbow Serpent" is a similar description that is used 'The Cosmic Serpent', "language-twisting-twisting" and "twisted language", to describe the DNA by shamans.

With LOVE.

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[eternal_spirit]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9619/tetrahedronbn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
tetrahedron

[eternal_spirit]

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/8913/dragoncdttw5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

geez another

[i am all i am]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9619/tetrahedronbn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
tetrahedron

Here's one I prepared earlier....hehehe....sounds like a cooking show.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7860/pattern2xo5.jpg



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[eternal_spirit]

LOL, iam what a feast for the eyes..... you've probably lost M3 by now. Although he does contradict himself alot.
Proves what they say about the higher levels misleadin the lower levels and the none freemasons too.

[eternal_spirit]

Alber Pike was 33rd degree at least. he was the
one who started the Klu Klux Clan, who crucified blacks. masons seem to have an obsession with crucifixion.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7666/untitledlq4.png (http://imageshack.us)

Crowley doing his Jesue pose, or something else??????

[i am all i am]

LOL, iam what a feast for the eyes..... you've probably lost M3 by now. Although he does contradict himself alot.
Proves what they say about the higher levels misleadin the lower levels and the none freemasons too.

G'day eternal Spirit.

Their thoughts of being superior, whether it be intelligence or otherwise, creates the opposite effect for them through seperation.

"These good folk swell our numbers and fill our money box. Set yourselves to work; these gentlemen must be made to nibble at the bait...but this sort of people must always be made to believe that the grade that they have achieved is the last."
- Adam Weishaupt (founder of the Illuminati, 1776).

"My Order (to answer some questions)"

Who is it that made the "Order" ???


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[masonic3]

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7860/pattern2xo5.jpg

This picture is strange? Where did you get the idea from to make it?

The 15 pillar mean anything to you?

Do you have any more ike that?

[i am all i am]

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7860/pattern2xo5.jpg

This picture is strange? Where did you get the idea from to make it?

The 15 pillar mean anything to you?

Do you have any more ike that?

Here's more on this thread...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2505&highlight=Sacred+geometry+patterns


Can you work out the meaning of this numerological pattern Masonic3 ???
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/8596/geometricalwisdomhs2.jpg


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[phoenix1]

Hello Tinmenace;)
It was shared once, but the population, didn't care and forgot over time.
Then after a few thousand years the people want to know again.
We see it as, you had your chance why should we remind you?
Its in all of you somewhere.
like the number "seven" most poeples lucky number is "Seven"? (May it have links to the seven swords?)

No afence ment, about not telling you.

Thanks for my reply Masonic. You will be aware that the Holy Mountain is NOT Sinai(Sin- ai BTW is named aster the Egyptian God SIN) but Mount Horeb meaning "Desert" Yes? Also you will be aware of the temble on TOP of Mount Horeb/Sinai (not the one on the Sinai Peninsular)

Also you have implied the Msteries where available for all. My understanding that this is NOT so , The EXOTERIC was for the herd "so to speak" These where the Lower Mysteries, as opposed to the ESOTERIC HIGHER mystery schools, where one had to be completly clean .

You have misled Tinmenacee here you know there are two forms of knowledge , every Mason does, this results in subservient Dogma and has served Masonry well, you also know you never get to get the True Secret, because of corruption in The Pyramid Priesthood many years back


None of you will attain what you seek because the intent is not pure , you think you have been cleansed in The Fire at your Baptism, and also with the Water. But this is bolluxology because of the Order itself in in corruption.

There are deffinatly 2 Laws.. on hidden in The Bible in The First 5 books , and also stuff concealed in books of the New Testament.

Anyway another thig what do you know of Panthera, and the Original Panther Wisdom. The Rabbi Knew it , his Babylonion name says so Yesua Ben Panthera
(Jesus so called) Hight initiate in the Egyptian Priesthhood ans in Babylon .

Getting back to the Bible .. Bacon fixed it so the Secret was entrenched in it. as he did that, he also allighned it to his Spear Shakers books and sonnets too.

Tell us more on the Spear Shakers (ie Britannia) and of AthenA Goddess A.A was bacons signature. and Bacon adds up numerically to 33. It was him that split the Tempars to 33 defrees from 7 , also he did this with the Riossicrurucians too.

There allways has been 2 paths in the Mystery Schools.But for the searcher you need not Masonry, the heartflame is the cool blue, its where you should look.

Thanks anyhow Masonic.

I respect your oppinion to have an oppinion . Better though you find your own, than be tied ans enslaved in anothers unindividualistic path.


Phoenix

Anyway I have gone o a bit

[masonic3]

Found this for you all, enjoy:

Stabat mater dolorosa
iuxta Crucem lacrimosa,
dum pendebat Filius.
At the Cross her station keeping,
stood the mournful Mother weeping,
close to Jesus to the last.

Cuius animam gementem,
contristatam et dolentem
pertransivit gladius.
Through her heart, His sorrow sharing,
all His bitter anguish bearing,
now at length the sword has passed.

O quam tristis et afflicta
fuit illa benedicta,
mater Unigeniti!
O how sad and sore distressed
was that Mother, highly blest,
of the sole-begotten One.

Quae maerebat et dolebat,
pia Mater, dum videbat
nati poenas inclyti.
Christ above in torment hangs,
she beneath beholds the pangs
of her dying glorious Son.

Quis est homo qui non fleret,
matrem Christi si videret
in tanto supplicio?
Is there one who would not weep,
whelmed in miseries so deep,
Christ's dear Mother to behold?

Quis non posset contristari
Christi Matrem contemplari
dolentem cum Filio?
Can the human heart refrain
from partaking in her pain,
in that Mother's pain untold?

Pro peccatis suae gentis
vidit Iesum in tormentis,
et flagellis subditum.
For the sins of His own nation,
She saw Jesus wracked with torment,
All with scourges rent:

Vidit suum dulcem Natum
moriendo desolatum,
dum emisit spiritum.
She beheld her tender Child,
Saw Him hang in desolation,
Till His spirit forth He sent.

Eia, Mater, fons amoris
me sentire vim doloris
fac, ut tecum lugeam.
O thou Mother! fount of love!
Touch my spirit from above,
make my heart with thine accord:

Fac, ut ardeat cor meum
in amando Christum Deum
ut sibi complaceam.
Make me feel as thou hast felt;
make my soul to glow and melt
with the love of Christ my Lord.

Sancta Mater, istud agas,
crucifixi fige plagas
cordi meo valide.
Holy Mother! pierce me through,
in my heart each wound renew
of my Savior crucified:

Tui Nati vulnerati,
tam dignati pro me pati,
poenas mecum divide.
Let me share with thee His pain,
who for all my sins was slain,
who for me in torments died.

Fac me tecum pie flere,
crucifixo condolere,
donec ego vixero.
Let me mingle tears with thee,
mourning Him who mourned for me,
all the days that I may live:

Iuxta Crucem tecum stare,
et me tibi sociare
in planctu desidero.
By the Cross with thee to stay,
there with thee to weep and pray,
is all I ask of thee to give.

Virgo virginum praeclara,
mihi iam non sis amara,
fac me tecum plangere.
Virgin of all virgins blest!,
Listen to my fond request:
let me share thy grief divine;

Fac, ut portem Christi mortem,
passionis fac consortem,
et plagas recolere.
Let me, to my latest breath,
in my body bear the death
of that dying Son of thine.

Fac me plagis vulnerari,
fac me Cruce inebriari,
et cruore Filii.
Wounded with His every wound,
steep my soul till it hath swooned,
in His very Blood away;

Flammis ne urar succensus,
per te, Virgo, sim defensus
in die iudicii.
Be to me, O Virgin, nigh,
lest in flames I burn and die,
in His awful Judgment Day.

Christe, cum sit hinc exire,
da per Matrem me venire
ad palmam victoriae.
Christ, when Thou shalt call me hence,
by Thy Mother my defense,
by Thy Cross my victory;

Quando corpus morietur,
fac, ut animae donetur
paradisi gloria. Amen.
When my body dies,
let my soul be granted
the glory of Paradise. Amen.

The Seven Sorrows
See also Seven Dolours of the Virgin
1) The Prophesy of Simon over the Infant Jesus.
2) The Flight of the Holy Family into Egypt
3) The Loss of the Child Jesus for Three Days.
4) The Meeting of Jesus & Mary Along the Way of the Cross.
5) Mary Watches Jesus Suffer and Die upon the Cross.
6) Mary Receives the Body of Jesus Taken Down from the Cross.
7) Mary Watches as the Body of Jesus is Buried in a Tomb

[edelweiss pirate]

Thanks for my reply Masonic. You will be aware that the Holy Mountain is NOT Sinai(Sin- ai BTW is named aster the Egyptian God SIN) but Mount Horeb meaning "Desert" Yes? Also you will be aware of the temble on TOP of Mount Horeb/Sinai (not the one on the Sinai Peninsular)

Also you have implied the Msteries where available for all. My understanding that this is NOT so , The EXOTERIC was for the herd "so to speak" These where the Lower Mysteries, as opposed to the ESOTERIC HIGHER mystery schools, where one had to be completly clean .

You have misled Tinmenacee here you know there are two forms of knowledge , every Mason does, this results in subservient Dogma and has served Masonry well, you also know you never get to get the True Secret, because of corruption in The Pyramid Priesthood many years back


None of you will attain what you seek because the intent is not pure , you think you have been cleansed in The Fire at your Baptism, and also with the Water. But this is bolluxology because of the Order itself in in corruption.

There are deffinatly 2 Laws.. on hidden in The Bible in The First 5 books , and also stuff concealed in books of the New Testament.

Anyway another thig what do you know of Panthera, and the Original Panther Wisdom. The Rabbi Knew it , his Babylonion name says so Yesua Ben Panthera
(Jesus so called) Hight initiate in the Egyptian Priesthhood ans in Babylon .

Getting back to the Bible .. Bacon fixed it so the Secret was entrenched in it. as he did that, he also allighned it to his Spear Shakers books and sonnets too.

Tell us more on the Spear Shakers (ie Britannia) and of AthenA Goddess A.A was bacons signature. and Bacon adds up numerically to 33. It was him that split the Tempars to 33 defrees from 7 , also he did this with the Riossicrurucians too.

There allways has been 2 paths in the Mystery Schools.But for the searcher you need not Masonry, the heartflame is the cool blue, its where you should look.

Thanks anyhow Masonic.

I respect your oppinion to have an oppinion . Better though you find your own, than be tied ans enslaved in anothers unindividualistic path.


Phoenix

Anyway I have gone o a bit

WOW! Sometimes you just blow me away Phoenix...

Do you know the significance of '33'? by the way... I've found this number cropping up in my life at key intervals, is it good or bad? Initially I was attracted to this number because I was interested in masonry... since then it has stuck to me...

You're right Pheonix, about the seeker not needing Masonry, in fact my conviction is that Masonry actually ruins the chance of spiritual advancement, like a final test... There is a spiritrual guidance and system of natural awareness that comes partially from within and from without.. but not from joining Murder inc. I think that Masonry strips the soul of its innocence, like the fruit of knowledge of good and evil... it then becomes impossible to live happily and peacefully with the burden of corruption on you....

[masonic3]

WOW! Sometimes you just blow me away Phoenix...

Do you know the significance of '33'? by the way... I've found this number cropping up in my life at key intervals, is it good or bad? Initially I was attracted to this number because I was interested in masonry... since then it has stuck to me...

You're right Pheonix, about the seeker not needing Masonry, in fact my conviction is that Masonry actually ruins the chance of spiritual advancement, like a final test... There is a spiritrual guidance and system of natural awareness that comes partially from within and from without.. but not from joining Murder inc. I think that Masonry strips the soul of its innocence, like the fruit of knowledge of good and evil... it then becomes impossible to live happily and peacefully with the burden of corruption on you....

Yes and we are watching you edelweiss pirate:
http://altreligion.about.com/library/graphics/masonic/eye.jpg

[i am all i am]

Here's more on this thread...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2505&highlight=Sacred+geometry+patterns


Can you work out the meaning of this numerological pattern Masonic3 ???
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/8596/geometricalwisdomhs2.jpg

Masonic3, have you worked out the numerological meaning yet ?????


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[tinmenace]

Be nice y'all. Please. :)

[masonic3]

Here's more on this thread...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2505&highlight=Sacred+geometry+patterns


Can you work out the meaning of this numerological pattern Masonic3 ???
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/8596/geometricalwisdomhs2.jpg

Masonic3, have you worked out the numerological meaning yet ?????


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33 or 365?

[i am all i am]

33 or 365?

Are you fishing for the solution, or do you know the solution ???


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[masonic3]

Are you fishing for the solution, or do you know the solution ???


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To be truthful I can't look at it for more than 10 seconds it hurts my eyes.
Whats the score then?

[i am all i am]

To be truthful I can't look at it for more than 10 seconds it hurts my eyes.
Whats the score then?

Why would it hurt your eyes, it's merely a picture ???

With the knowledge that you have gained from freemasonry, is there anything that stands out for you and that you understand ???


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[masonic3]

Why would it hurt your eyes, it's merely a picture ???

With the knowledge that you have gained from freemasonry, is there anything that stands out for you and that you understand ???


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In your mind maybe but it looks a lot of number to me, so whats the answer then?

[i am all i am]

In your mind maybe but it looks a lot of number to me, so whats the answer then?

The answer is the name of the pattern, "The Numerological Creation of Geometrical Wisdom" !!!

But what will the answer get you ???

It is the process that will give you the understanding, and that requires for you to SEE what is there.



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[masonic3]

The answer is the name of the pattern, "The Numerological Creation of Geometrical Wisdom" !!!

But what will the answer get you ???

It is the process that will give you the understanding, and that requires for you to SEE what is there.



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Your sort of going down the masonic road there, you maybe on to something.

See, you look at a tracing bord and see the picture, I look at it and see the Face of god.

[i am all i am]

Your sort of going down the masonic road there, you maybe on to something.

See, you look at a tracing bord and see the picture, I look at it and see the Face of god.

Maybe I see the picture as the face of God !!!

That is, they are both one and the same.

Is the geometrical pattern a picture, the face of God, or both ???


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[masonic3]

Maybe I see the picture as the face of God !!!

That is, they are both one and the same.

Is the geometrical pattern a picture, the face of God, or both ???


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It makes the face of god in masonic turms

[edelweiss pirate]

Yes and we are watching you edelweiss pirate:
http://altreligion.about.com/library/graphics/masonic/eye.jpg

Don't even dream it baby brother....

Your foolish flies caught in honey have taught me everything I need to know to actually fight you....

If you met me you would be like all of your cronies... unable to look me in the eye and easy to scare... Boo!

I'm actually embarrassed for you craft that they send such a trumped up little Don Quichote of a man on here... Are you the best they've got.. If so, you're a pretty shabby dummed down bunch... Still, amazed you've got any brain left at all after all the uncertainty you have to put up with....

Don't threaten me Masonic, you're seriously out of your depth and I do NOT want to hurt you, not even in self defence....

[i am all i am]

It makes the face of god in masonic turms

To truly understand, you are required to think outside the box of "masonic terms".

Where did the masonic terms originate from ???


With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[masonic3]

Don't even dream it baby brother....

Your foolish flies caught in honey have taught me everything I need to know to actually fight you....

If you met me you would be like all of your cronies... unable to look me in the eye and easy to scare... Boo!

To fight me?
Dream a little dream with me don't fight me save your energy for the 1000 years of hard labour you have coming.
Just remember we are watching you!

[edelweiss pirate]

Ok demon boy you asked for it.

Nature will take its course.

I will not tell you what I am... I will leave you to guess that for yourself.

Suffice it to say..... The guilty will be punished.

I have absorbed the 'we' that is you. I came through your fire and I passed the judgement. I now have authority. You have none. And less everyday.

Remember 'we are watching you'... I'm counting on it buddy boy, why else do you think I bother, because I know something you don't na-na-na-na-na-naaa.. But I'm not going to tell you... ha!

[masonic3]

Ok demon boy you asked for it.

Nature will take its course.

I will not tell you what I am... I will leave you to guess that for yourself.

Suffice it to say..... The guilty will be punished.

I have absorbed the 'we' that is you. I came through your fire and I passed the judgement. I now have authority. You have none. And less everyday.

We already know who you are and we can not touch you.
One day you will have to take your path and join us its the only way.
Maybe your our choosen one who wil change the freemasonry for ever?

edelweiss pirate do you feel the path nearly here?
"I" am the "We" "We" are, not "Iam"

[edelweiss pirate]

You're about 2 years too late I'm afraid....

I will never set foot on that path again. I saw way too much. I saw it all in fact. Then spent about 6 months trying to forget everything.

But as I say, you would have been bang right about two years ago...

I would like to offer you some love as one human being to another but that was how I got into the masonic pickle in the first place. Still I guess that's why I survived, my motives were kindness not greed. I felt sorry for my mentor and wanted to help him... I almost joined to please him...

So when I was accused of being motivated by greed.. well, I knew it just didn't wash...

[masonic3]

You're about 2 years too late I'm afraid....

I will never set foot on that path again. I saw way too much. I saw it all in fact. Then spent about 6 months trying to forget everything.

But as I say, you would have been bang right about two years ago...

I would like to offer you some love as one human being to another but that was how I got into the masonic pickle in the first place. Still I guess that's why I survived, my motives were kindness not greed. I felt sorry for my mentor and wanted to help him... I almost joined to please him...

So when I was accused of being motivated by greed.. well, I knew it just didn't wash...

Thank you, back to you too, Hope you are ok now?

[pollock]

Dream a little dream with me don't fight me save your energy for the 1000 years of hard labour you have coming.
Just remember we are watching you!

He he youre almost funny (in a restricted unfree kinda way)
There may be some force watching us, and if so then let them watch I say, they would be crippled by their own greed and will never outlive the force of life itself which is eternal, but you little one, I dont think you are even an eyelash in that eye, you aint watching anything, I would say you are a cell in the cheesy feet of the establishment.
As a matter of fact I dont even believe they would send someone like you here, I think this is your own little game and it is making you look rather foolish, maybe applicably so I dont know!
1000 years of hard labour heh?
Id rather live a million years like that, than one as a slave who thinks he is his masters friend! but different strokes....

tranquility and balance
F

[garth]

Its the samr old thing, thats all you can say?!

Its above you all this, your the ones that will never know.
A cheap laugh now and then 1000 years of hard Labour so laugh as much as you want.
I will laugh with you.

HHHa hha haha hhahahah hhha hhahahahha hahha



1000 years hard labour ha, I reck'on thats what we've been serving here on this rock in this reality, tis about time for a prison break

[celtic isis]

Afterall the hexagram(*1*hex means to curse someone) It's also known as the seal of Solomon, Solmon being a high magician witch. All the symbols pentagram etc etc are the same used in witchcraft.

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So do you believe the same symbol the star of david (hexagram) can be used for postive magick to heal instead of curse????? M3

doesn't the seal of solomon represent "above and below", and also either earth and air or earth and water, one triangle up, the other down, it represents two of the four elements of the earth...only i can't remember which combination lol :o

It's duality as one, co-existance, as in yin and yang...

of course, the juifs (jewish, i prefer to call them by the french name lol) they just stole that star and made it their own symbol, as they did with so many things...The LAST thing that star is is the star of david.

also that geometric picture the one on the blue background looks like the flower of creation, is that what it's called, like from the kabballah... that's what it reminded me of!


sorry to invade a private agruement guys! :D

[celtic isis]

To truly understand, you are required to think outside the box of "masonic terms".

Where did the masonic terms originate from ???


With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

Also, from what i know of freemasonry, masonic3 didn't mean it like that...there are no masonic terms...it's not all contained in a 'box'... and it certainly isn't limited. Free masonry, the symbolism is FASCINATING, and really the knowledge is in itself a very valueable tool that can be applied to life, i really love it! My OH teaches me alot, and i raid his books :D

so funny though the way you tell so much masonic and then don't tell anything as such, it's hilarious! :D you're a tease!

[masonic3]

Also, from what i know of freemasonry, masonic3 didn't mean it like that...there are no masonic terms...it's not all contained in a 'box'... and it certainly isn't limited. Free masonry, the symbolism is FASCINATING, and really the knowledge is in itself a very valueable tool that can be applied to life, i really love it! My OH teaches me alot, and i raid his books :D

so funny though the way you tell so much masonic and then don't tell anything as such, it's hilarious! :D you're a tease!

You noticed then?! Your very right!!

Tell your OH to "travell lightly"

[edelweiss pirate]

Masonic 3 is not even a mason....

He's too ridiculous... I had my suspicions when he first appeared here...

And I think he was over on the old Icke forum too, I nearly broke him.... He became totally incoherent when I started to question him.

He really isn't smart enough..

[masonic3]

Masonic 3 is not even a mason....

He's too ridiculous... I had my suspicions when he first appeared here...

And I think he was over on the old Icke forum too, I nearly broke him.... He became totally incoherent when I started to question him.

He really isn't smart enough..


http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/rpo/all_seeing_eye.bmp

Oh my god, if I am not a mason. where do I go every week? am I mad? I must be insane!?
This is really shocking my world? But the Voices! they tell me to Count the clock? Should I stop the clock? ..........?mmmm?

http://amadeo.blog.com/repository/191692/486240.jpg

P.s.
1)I never went on the other forum.
2)incoherent? I was leading you down your own "Yellow Brick road", why would we care about some "Chum" who, was scared and ran home to his mum?

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http://www.geraldengland.co.uk/craig/cp1.jpg

In my "Allseeing Eye" you are "black balled" for ever and can now never join.
Or be apart of any order, you do not exist in my our eyes any more and you are fading in to space.
http://www.ciai-s.net/black-holes.jpg

I must now call you "Black Ball" as you are turning into dark antimatter

http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures2/funny-pictures-goodbye-cruel-world-I0a.jpg

This is goodbye from me edelweis. pirat., I must not talk to you any more.
Even your name is fading?!
Please do not post on my threads, if you don't mind.

[tinmenace]

Everyone, please stop with the personal attacks and bad vibes. It's rather pointless. Your energy could be spent achieving far more important objectives.