McKinnon looses appeal!

[pduffy4]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/aug/28/hacking.security:mad:

http://freegary.org.uk/

[duckingdafta]

weird.. I was just asking someone to check on Gary (as they know him) to make sure he is OK.
I think it's about time he became a freeman of the land and just hide out amongst friends.

fuck the US law.. it's not ours and the rights aren't the same in reverse.. we can't have suspects from US

[elirien]

I hope he get's in some way out of this unharmed and in tip top shape.

[palehorse redivivus]

Bleh, I was really hoping that guy's appeal succeeded. This is bullshit. :(

[kerravon]

Bleh, I was really hoping that guy's appeal succeeded. This is bullshit. :(

Yes, total bullshite. To say that Gary damaged government computers ($700,000 worth) by using remote desktop is nonsense.

[peterjohnglynn]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JPdVadBnCLs

[danster82]

This is bad news.

70 years it was saying in the newspapers today.

[graflok]

There's very little coverage of this in the USA media. Not a good sign, I think.

[sukyspook]

I saw him briefly on GMTV this morning (what was I thinking lol).

My gut reaction is that he needs some advice on becoming a 'Freeman on the Land' and pretty quick at that.....can't Rob Menard give him some help??

I've tried to join the forum at thinkfree.ca but when I pressed 'send' I was immediately - 'banned'!!! I guess it's just a precaution to stop shills interfering.

I'll drop them a line and see if they can help - perhaps first I'll drop a note at the 'Freeman' thread as I think someone is in touch with Rob anyway.

[and justice for all]

So I guess the moral of the story here is that; it’s ok for them to snoop around your business, reading e-mails, financial history/transactions, hearing your private phone conversations, but god forbid you’d go around snooping on them!

[sukyspook]

So I guess the moral of the story here is that; it’s ok for them to snoop around your business, reading e-mails, financial history/transactions, hearing your private phone conversations, but god forbid you’d go around snooping on them!

It also proves that their so called 'security' is basically - crap....

Gazillions spent each year on 'security' and yet things like 911, Oklahoma and 777 happen and yet - 'they' stay in 'power'.

Of course the reason 'they' get away with it all is because their own kind are installed and ensconsed as any potential 'checks and balances'.

It's not that the playing field is uneven - there IS no playing field.....

[and justice for all]

Gazillions spent each year on 'security' and yet things like 911, Oklahoma and 7/7 happen and yet - 'they' stay in 'power'...

Well it doesn’t really matter how much you spend on security if you’re going right ahead with bombing yourself - hence the 'inside job' term.

[deafbred]

it's getting to the point where now it's openly obvious, people are serving the spirit of satan, always have been and will continue to do so until the devil's here in bodily form before us all ruling everything via money system.

life is meant to be so abundent but everywhere bad man's society goes, turns to a dead zone.

we're just living in one giant camp, I seen the fences on the outskirts of town, in and around the town, from inside, looking out the prison window.

it became aparent to me then that there is no where to hide or run in society.

just to go to deep in the forests never setting up camp

barefoot on the run

footprint of harmony

[synergy777]

he found details of an interplanetary squadron etc, so if its all rubbish, why are the us giving him such draconian/severe treatment?

you notice how the media tells us about his hacking of computers, but never mebntions what he found. why not tell us he found details of an interpanetary suadron and make fun of him, like they do of ufo fans etc.

isn't funny how the vatican have stated that life exists in space and its existence does not contradict biblical scripture. then you get the moon astronaut saying he has seen aliens, then rush limbaugh/mars bloodline etc.

[biblegirl]

There's very little coverage of this in the USA media. Not a good sign, I think.

This forum is the first I've heard of it :eek:. Now I have a new hero. My thoughts and prayers are with him.

[and justice for all]

...you notice how the media tells us about his hacking of computers, but never mebntions what he found. why not tell us he found details of an interpanetary suadron and make fun of him, like they do of ufo fans etc.

isn't funny how the vatican have stated that life exists in space and its existence does not contradict biblical scripture. then you get the moon astronaut saying he has seen aliens, then rush limbaugh/mars bloodline etc.

Because ...perhaps they’re saving that card for later, you know project blue beam that sort of thing. I’m not implying that they’re definitely planning to use it, but I think they like the idea of having that possibility open.

[pduffy4]

he found details of an interplanetary squadron etc, so if its all rubbish, why are the us giving him such draconian/severe treatment?

I read elsewhere that the US may try to blame Gary's hacking for the lack of a military response to 911 as he did his hacking on 911 or the day after. If they do that to him the consquences for Gary will be severe.

[duckingdafta]

can I ask.. would anyone else (besides myself).. go into hiding now after knowing what they want of you with statements like "He's going to fry".. being mentioned and 70 years for taking down the whole of the US defence systems and whatever else they can muster up with mixing dates up & as your usual £50 386 computer in them days apparently could run that sort of equipment and technology...but is now worth £5000 a piece... let's blame a brit and have a back hand reason as to their involvement in creating this terror state... wow.. can ya tell I'm pithed?..
better shut up!

[and justice for all]

What you’re proposing duckingdafta sounds intriguing, I’m having trouble following you. Care to elaborate?

[and justice for all]

I read elsewhere that the US may try to blame Gary's hacking for the lack of a military response to 911 as he did his hacking on 911 or the day after. If they do that to him the consquences for Gary will be severe.

I did not know that. I must look into it. Got a link?

[pduffy4]

I e-mailed David Milliband on the 30th July and just ot a response form someone else on his behalf


Below in red is the totaly pathetic response I received-

Direct Communications Unit
2 Marsham Street, London SW1P 4DF
Switchboard 020 7035 4848 Fax: 020 7035 4745 Textphone: 020 7035 4742
E-mail: public.enquiries@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk Website: www.homeoffice.gov.uk





p.duffy93@ntlworld.com
Mr Peter Duffy



Reference: T17791/8
29 August 2008

Dear Mr Duffy,

Thank you for your e-mail of 4 August about the extradition of Gary McKinnon. Your e-mail has been passed to the Direct Communications Unit, and I have been asked to respond.

Mr McKinnon’s appeals against the decision of both the Secretary of State and the District Judge were dismissed on 3 April 2007. An application for leave to appeal to the House of Lords was refused by the High Court on 25 May 2007 but two points of law were certified, allowing these matters to be fully considered by their Lordships. The hearing went ahead on 16 June and on 30 July their Lordships dismissed the appeal.

Mr McKinnon’s legal representatives have lodged an application to the European Court of Human Rights but on the 28 August the Court decided that the application should not prevent Mr McKinnon’s surrender to the United States.

Arrangements will now be made for Mr McKinnon’s surrender to the United States.

Thank you for your interest in this case.

Yours sincerely


Kevin Allen

They have a skill for typing a lot and it is total shit!:mad:

[pduffy4]

I did not know that. I must look into it. Got a link?

Here is a link-

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2008/08/breaking-news-g.html

Here is a section from it-

The US government claims he committed a malicious crime - the biggest military computer hack ever.

The authorities have warned that without his co-operation and a guilty plea the case could be treated as terrorism and he could face a long jail sentence.

The former systems analyst is accused of hacking into the computers with the intention of intimidating the US government.

It alleges that between February 2001 and March 2002, he hacked into dozens of US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Department of Defense computers, as well as 16 Nasa computers.

Prosecutors say he altered and deleted files at a naval air station not long after the 11 September attacks in 2001, rendering critical systems inoperable.

However, Mr McKinnon has said his motives were harmless and innocent. He denies any attempts at sabotage.

He said he wanted to find evidence of UFOs he thought was being held by the US authorities, and to expose what he believed was a cover-up.

[biblegirl]

Yes, that's right, find yet another person to blame for the problems with 911. :mad:

[and justice for all]

Here is a link-

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2008/08/breaking-news-g.html

Prosecutors say he altered and deleted files at a naval air station not long after the 11 September attacks in 2001, rendering critical systems inoperable.

However, Mr McKinnon has said his motives were harmless and innocent. He denies any attempts at sabotage.

These 'people' beggars belief, the lowest of the lowest. Their lying and fabrications are off the charts! They want to pin their entire security shortcomings in one guy, when its actually a cover up, not a matter of system brake down or inefficiencies. Disgusting.

(Thanx for the link).

[duckingdafta]

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