Quantum Future School

[amadeus]

Ciao,

does anyone have experience regarding the Quantum Future School? I've been reading some of the stuff at 'The Quantum Future Group' and read a while ago '9/11-The Ultimate Truth' by Laura Knight J. which i found excellent(highly recommended!)

The somewhat peculiar thing is that there are requirements and conditions for one being accepted to 'the school', see here:
http://www.quantumfuture.net/qfs/qfs_apply.htm

So anyway, I just wanted to hear from you guys if you know anything more about this.

-amadeus-

[neutron flux]

Amadeus,
I'm not a member myself but to my understanding it is more of a "4th Way" school and reading "The Wave" and "Adventures with Cassiopaea" would give more insight as to why there are certain conditions in order to become a member.

[explorer]

Amadeus,
I'm not a member myself but to my understanding it is more of a "4th Way" school and reading "The Wave" and "Adventures with Cassiopaea" would give more insight as to why there are certain conditions in order to become a member.

It quite obvious that you are a member...as you are promoting their material on this forum

You may find this cult check list helpful;

The guru is always right

No exit

Cult-speak

Group-think

Personal attacks on critics

Denigration of competing sects, cults, religions . . .

Indoctrination of members

Instant community

Instant intimacy

Instant friendship

Surrender to the cult and its ways

Cloning --- You must redefine yourself and your life in cult terms

Confusion, contradictions, hypocrisy, and out-right lies

Personal testimonies of earlier converts

Creates a sense of powerlessness, covert fear, guilt, and dependency upon the group

Don’t trust your own mind, it is out to get you

You owe the group

You need the cult

Circular reasoning

Thought-stopping language and thought-terminating clichés and slogans

Disturbed leaders and mentally ill followers

Mentoring /sponsoring

Intrusiveness

Newcomers can’t think right

Different levels of truth

Appeals to “holy” or “wise” or "higher" authorities

Insistence the cult is “the only way”

The cult and its members are special

Dual purposes

The cult implants phobias

Confession sessions

The cult takes over the individual’s decision making process

Enemy making and devaluing the outsider

Veneration of either living or dead leaders

Vicious lies and rumours are spread about those who leave the cult

[leo40]

Hi, Explorer:

Thank you for demonstrating your abysmal ignorance.

[rachelangelo]

I'm sorry but I thought it was widely accepted that Laura Knight-Jadczyk is a phoney. When did she become a Professor? What degrees does she have and what doctorates? I'm guessing she has none and just took that title because she as a 'school' on the internet.

I tell you exactly why I think she's a fraud. If you look at the casseopian transcripts from their ouiji board sessions, half the time the casseopians say that Laura should answer the group's questions instead!!

She used a Ouiji board to contact 'Casseopians'. She's talking to demons and you're all being sucked in if you buy in to it.

[spitalwings]

I'm sorry but I thought it was widely accepted that Laura Knight-Jadczyk is a phoney. When did she become a Professor? What degrees does she have and what doctorates? I'm guessing she has none and just took that title because she as a 'school' on the internet.

I tell you exactly why I think she's a fraud. If you look at the casseopian transcripts from their ouiji board sessions, half the time the casseopians say that Laura should answer the group's questions instead!!

She used a Ouiji board to contact 'Casseopians'. She's talking to demons and you're all being sucked in if you buy in to it.


Yes she's a conwoman and thief. Why can't people be bothered to check the backgrounds of these 'enlightened teachers' themselves? They deserve all the disinfo they have coming to them. Just another new age hustler. Gurutards talking about sheeple. The irony.

[neutrino]

Not Laura Knight J again. She's got my father brainwashed with her shit and I'm sick of hearing about her.

[gridlock]

Not Laura Knight J again. She's got my father brainwashed with her shit and I'm sick of hearing about her.

Interesting. If your so sick of hearing about her why did you even click on this thread when there's so many others to choose from? Just wondering.

[leo40]

Just a friendly warning.

Now, the post that bears your name contains innuendo and accusations harmful to the public image and work of QFS and LKJ as well as outright libel and defamation - all actionable in a court of law.

We track all public references to QFS and LKJ their work and those individuals under protection by the work. Why? Because basic justice grants everyone the right to know his accuser and the accusations so he can defend himself against harm, libel, and even assault.

This time the outcome of your contemptuous libeling and defamation will be different from anything you have experienced before. For, uprooting professional and non-professional destructive people is our business now. Step-by-step, leading to public-forum courtrooms, as well as actual courtrooms in your jurisdiction, as warranted, we will hold libelers, defamers and slanderers fully responsible for their crimes, out in full view for all the world to see. We will collect the damages due, as we did with HBI (Higher Balance Institute, Eric Pepin) and then see those individuals socially and professionally ostracized out of existence.

[neutrino]

Interesting. If your so sick of hearing about her why did you even click on this thread when there's so many others to choose from? Just wondering.

Because her name isn't in the title, are you not aware of that? How am I supposed to know that a thread titled 'Quantum Future School' is going to be about her and those Cassiopeians? I'm not fricking psychic pal.

[ageispolis]

Ciao,

does anyone have experience regarding the Quantum Future School? I've been reading some of the stuff at 'The Quantum Future Group' and read a while ago '9/11-The Ultimate Truth' by Laura Knight J. which i found excellent(highly recommended!)

The somewhat peculiar thing is that there are requirements and conditions for one being accepted to 'the school', see here:
http://www.quantumfuture.net/qfs/qfs_apply.htm

So anyway, I just wanted to hear from you guys if you know anything more about this.

-amadeus-

I know Laura. We had a bit contact months ago. I found out that there are many sites on the internet explaining that police is hunting for her because she stole over 100.000 dollars together with her husband. First I thought this can´t be real but than other people explained the hole story. Laura is posessed by reptilians. She calls them "C´s or "Cassioapea". They have nothing better to do than feeding the NWO paradigm.

She even told me that she is against the believe-system of joy + happiness because its - when you ask Laura - hedonism and hedonism is a form of mindcontrol because - she explained further - its not objective and she said whats not objective is nothing she would ever like to have to do with.

She said to me that the real matrix is based up on suffering and we should not ignore our suffering by feeling happy and enjoying our life. After she said this I saw that Laura is totally NWO orientated and feeding the NWO machine trough her lies about our world! Other people all around the internet started complaining about Laura.

Also she has a huge problem with black people. I know black people and I think they are nice, but Laura says that black people are not on the same high level like white people!

http://www.cassiopaeacult.com/

The Cassiopean Cult is being sued by the Higher Balance Institute of Oregon.

HBI

Claims include: Defamation – Libel

HBI is a front for pedophilia
HBI is a COINTELPRO organnization

The Cassiopaean message is very simple – Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid. The Cassiopaean view of reality is one in which government mind control plots go hand in hand with evil and selfish reptoid aliens from the future who rape and abduct at will among the complaisant population. There is no protection, no succour or salvation, save in the “knowledge” bestowed by the Cassiopaeans. This is in fact one of their favourite slogans: Knowledge Protects, Ignorance Endangers. Never mind that “knowledge” without the wisdom to understand or use it is about the most useless thing in the universe, the Cassiopaeans claim that it is enough to “know” the Truth, as revealed by them of course. Their “truth” however is deeply suspect, and not just on philosophical grounds.

From graphic depictions of rape by 4D lizard beings, to discussions of circumcision and its after effects, all the way to tantric innuendoes and speculation on Jesus’ sex life, and that of his descendent according to the Cassiopaeans, Yassar Arafat, the polymorphously perverse world of the Cassiopaeans is a marvel to behold. If we may speculate, along with Jungian psychologist James Hillman, that the contents of such “channelling” represents the depth of archetypal trauma in the channeler’s life, then we may rightly conclude that where ever this stuff originated, whatever rock in whoever’s subconscious it crawled out from under, that entity was one seriously disturbed “individual.” And we haven’t even begun to scratch the surface yet.

Mix those potent sexual metaphors in a broth of end of the world hysteria, add a dash of pure Nazi-Aryan racial theory, a pinch of essence of anti-Semitism, a strong dollop of bad science fiction, and fold carefully into pseudo-rational physics and mathematical jargon, being very sure you understand nothing about them of course, and then flavour to taste with the conspiracy du jour, and voila! Out comes the Cassiopaean message…

[rachelangelo]

Just a friendly warning.
Now, the post that bears your name contains innuendo and accusations harmful to the public image and work of QFS and LKJ as well as outright libel and defamation - all actionable in a court of law.


Is this you threatening people or have you copied and pasted it from somewhere?

[explorer]

Just a friendly warning.

Now, the post that bears your name contains innuendo and accusations harmful to the public image and work of QFS and LKJ as well as outright libel and defamation - all actionable in a court of law.

We track all public references to QFS and LKJ their work and those individuals under protection by the work. Why? Because basic justice grants everyone the right to know his accuser and the accusations so he can defend himself against harm, libel, and even assault.

This time the outcome of your contemptuous libeling and defamation will be different from anything you have experienced before. For, uprooting professional and non-professional destructive people is our business now. Step-by-step, leading to public-forum courtrooms, as well as actual courtrooms in your jurisdiction, as warranted, we will hold libelers, defamers and slanderers fully responsible for their crimes, out in full view for all the world to see. We will collect the damages due, as we did with HBI (Higher Balance Institute, Eric Pepin) and then see those individuals socially and professionally ostracized out of existence.


You sound like a NAZI

[ufochick]

Just a friendly warning.

Now, the post that bears your name contains innuendo and accusations harmful to the public image and work of QFS and LKJ as well as outright libel and defamation - all actionable in a court of law.

We track all public references to QFS and LKJ their work and those individuals under protection by the work. Why? Because basic justice grants everyone the right to know his accuser and the accusations so he can defend himself against harm, libel, and even assault.

This time the outcome of your contemptuous libeling and defamation will be different from anything you have experienced before. For, uprooting professional and non-professional destructive people is our business now. Step-by-step, leading to public-forum courtrooms, as well as actual courtrooms in your jurisdiction, as warranted, we will hold libelers, defamers and slanderers fully responsible for their crimes, out in full view for all the world to see. We will collect the damages due, as we did with HBI (Higher Balance Institute, Eric Pepin) and then see those individuals socially and professionally ostracized out of existence.

Are you still in grade school? Afraid of people calling you or yours a NAME?? ewe how horrible, a NAME.
People are allowed and have the right to have an opinion and express it. ANYONE can say IN MY OPINION this person is a fool and a crook. If whoever this is you are promoting is so afraid of nay sayers that they tell you to post the above they have serious mental problems.
I will now assume that this Laura Knight-Jadczyk is a fraud because anyone who seeks legal aid in defending their beliefs is not spiritual in any way shape or form. I also assume she also wants money another sign of pure bull shit.
You won't be able to bully people here into saying anything or not saying anything won't work.

[explorer]

Well said UFOchick :)

[rachelangelo]

I think ufo chick could knock out a bear with one punch.

[leo40]

Hi, ufochick:

You are absolutely right. I let my emotions run away.
In no way do I want to intimidate others for their opinions.
Also, I have no agenda or axe to grind, I was simply upset
by someone attacking another person in this manner.
I am not authorized to and do not speak for anybody else, either QFS or LKJ, and retract anything I said that may have given this impression.

[ufochick]

Hi, ufochick:

You are absolutely right. I let my emotions run away.
In no way do I want to intimidate others for their opinions.
Also, I have no agenda or axe to grind, I was simply upset
by someone attacking another person in this manner.
I am not authorized to and do not speak for anybody else, either QFS or LKJ, and retract anything I said that may have given this impression.

This forum is made up of many types of people, hopefully the one thing they have in common is the attitude of non-compliance to laws and the legal system that invade their freedoms.

You cannot control what others say about anything or anyone and should not need or want to, if you find someone offensive the ignore feature is available.

If something is true and good it will hold up over time if it is not it will fade away. If a person who seeks followers cannot hold up under scrutiny then they will not lead long and that's as it should be.

[elpressiedente]

It quite obvious that you are a member...as you are promoting their material on this forum

You may find this cult check list helpful;

The guru is always right

No exit

Cult-speak

Group-think

Personal attacks on critics

Denigration of competing sects, cults, religions . . .

Indoctrination of members

Instant community

Instant intimacy

Instant friendship

Surrender to the cult and its ways

Cloning --- You must redefine yourself and your life in cult terms

Confusion, contradictions, hypocrisy, and out-right lies

Personal testimonies of earlier converts

Creates a sense of powerlessness, covert fear, guilt, and dependency upon the group

Don’t trust your own mind, it is out to get you

You owe the group

You need the cult

Circular reasoning

Thought-stopping language and thought-terminating clichés and slogans

Disturbed leaders and mentally ill followers

Mentoring /sponsoring

Intrusiveness

Newcomers can’t think right

Different levels of truth

Appeals to “holy” or “wise” or "higher" authorities

Insistence the cult is “the only way”

The cult and its members are special

Dual purposes

The cult implants phobias

Confession sessions

The cult takes over the individual’s decision making process

Enemy making and devaluing the outsider

Veneration of either living or dead leaders

Vicious lies and rumours are spread about those who leave the cult



for fucks sake explorer.... every belief system, even yours starts out as a cult... every belief system in the world has these "characteristics"

just to lift your IQ a little (maybe into triple digits even)


whats the difference between a cult and a culture?

Only the number of people who follow it

whats the difference between a wish, a prayer or a spell?

Only the name of the cult doing the act.

[elpressiedente]

Hi, Explorer:

Thank you for demonstrating your abysmal ignorance.




I doubt if my above post will do anything for your double digit IQ leo

[redgryphon]

Only the name of the cult doing the act.

There ya go! One person's "cult" is another person's religion, spiritual path, etc. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Pagan, Heathen, whatever...everybody thinks everybody else's group is a "cult"
I've always thought that was kinda funny. :D

[elpressiedente]

There ya go! One person's "cult" is another person's religion, spiritual path, etc. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Pagan, Heathen, whatever...everybody thinks everybody else's group is a "cult"
I've always thought that was kinda funny. :D



welcome to the top of the class

[badnews]

and then see those individuals socially and professionally ostracized out of existence.

Smallest penis in the world award goes to Leo40!

[explorer]

"These are a few of the techniques of fear used by most teachers of the psychic worlds. We can easily recognize them. The very fact they use such methods to hold their students shows they are afraid of losing out to a true Master. The real Master never drops any hints of reprisal to anyone who shows freedom of will and the capacity of thinking for himself."

Fear & Threats: Cult Techniques
Eckankar: Illuminated Way Letters, 1966-1971, Paul Twitchell,page 94; (c) 1975 Gail Twitchell Gross


"The oldest technique of keeping the loyalty of the chela by many teachers is with fear. This is true in the methods of those teachers on the lower plane levels. Because they grow afraid of losing their chelas to a Master on the higher level, the old fear techniques will be drummed into those who desire to move away from psychic plane elements into the God planes. These threats are very common. They usually go like this:


--"If you leave me, you will get caught in the astral and won't get out."



(Twitchell in the Spiritual Notebook, pg. 196: "Within the Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad is found the quotation 'He who leaves the path of ECK, or refuses to follow it, shall dwell in the astral hells until the Master takes mercy upon him and brings him upon the path again.'"




Twitchell in Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad #2, pg. 166: "Woe be unto him if he does (resign), for it is known among those who have reached these lofty heights and witnessed the consequences of the few who have. Those few have found that spiritual decay sets in immediately, affecting the health, material life and spiritual life, and brings death more swiftly.")




--"Another cliche is: I've got the only path and if you leave it, you're in deep trouble."



(Twitchell in IWL, pg. 139: "This is a serious path and must be considered the only way to God."




Spiritual Notebook, pg. 195: "Again and again I have pointed out that there is no other path than ECK. It is the original source from which all things spring, and anyone who tries another path is trying to start on a lower rung. It seems foolish for anyone to use his human judgment in trying to select a spiritual path for himself, when it is laid out for him to move onto the original and only path to God."




SKS 2, pg. 14: "The teachings of ECK are the pure doctrine in this world. There are no others which can reach the same level as ECK."




SKS 2, pg. 17: "Any initiate who violates the tenets of ECKANKAR will automatically be dropped out of ECK. This means that he will be put back in his spiritual unfoldment and will not have any opportunity for growth until the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master, has reinstated him."




Letters to a Chela, pg. 107: "Anyone who breaks away from ECK after receiving the initiation into ECK, will have to go through many future lives until he meets the ECK Master again and accepts him to be the Living Eck Master and surrenders to him completely." SKS 2, pg. 182: "The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master, is the only being who is eligible to make known the true path to God. All others mislead their followers, because they themselves are misled."




Twitchell, IWL, pg. 148: "They only increase their karmic debt and lay themselves open to the angers of the psychic world. A few who have left the Master and tried to put themselves in this category have eventually returned to ask for spiritual help.")




--"Another one is: I'm the true Master, and having initiated you, will be with you until the end of eternity. I'm your Master always."



Spiritual Notebook, page 202: It makes little difference whether the person who is interested in ECK has read only one book, has just become an initiate, or has passed through all the initiations, the ECK Master is with him constantly."




SKS 2, page 9: ""Unless one has come to the Living ECK Master and accepted him in complete faith during one's lifetime, he must serve many lives; meeting with the Mahanta during each life, searching, waiting for another golden opportunity to take up the path of ECK, and to leave this world forever.



The opportunity comes again and again for every individual Soul who has spent time in this world. The Mahanta has been with each Soul time and time again, but few accept him. They can neither see nor understand the divine glory which flows through him, which can take each into the heavenly worlds to live forever as Soul.



The rejection of the Mahanta is sad indeed, for it means that the seeker must go on looking, reaching and trying to find the heavenly path of ECK and the ECK Master who will take him into the kingdom of the SUGMAD. But he seeks in vain for there will never be anyone but the Mahanta to give him life, to give him the way to the eternal source of ALL things.")



Fear & Threats: Cult Techniques
From Eckankar: Illuminated Way Letters, 1966-1971, Paul Twitchell,page 94; (c) 1975 Gail Twitchell Gross

http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/eckankarsurvivors/threats.html


yep, I think Leo has been told to retract his statement as it makes them look very bad, and a very humble and eloquent apology it was to.

Elpressidente there are cults and then there are cults

I do have a right to voice my opinion, there might be very little free will at cassiopaea but this is not cassiopaea is it? and as far as I know we are not living in a fascist state just yet

I wonder how many people have actually claimed they are the only one true way, must be thousands over the years, same old, same old, a lot of money in it I guess, personally I would never be fool enough follow anyone who had an ounce of darkness in them.

[elpressiedente]

no.... there are only big cults and little cults

if you cant grab that definition then you most certainly are a cult in the making

[inverselogic]

Just a friendly warning.

Now, the post that bears your name contains innuendo and accusations harmful to the public image and work of QFS and LKJ as well as outright libel and defamation - all actionable in a court of law.

We track all public references to QFS and LKJ their work and those individuals under protection by the work. Why? Because basic justice grants everyone the right to know his accuser and the accusations so he can defend himself against harm, libel, and even assault.

This time the outcome of your contemptuous libeling and defamation will be different from anything you have experienced before. For, uprooting professional and non-professional destructive people is our business now. Step-by-step, leading to public-forum courtrooms, as well as actual courtrooms in your jurisdiction, as warranted, we will hold libelers, defamers and slanderers fully responsible for their crimes, out in full view for all the world to see. We will collect the damages due, as we did with HBI (Higher Balance Institute, Eric Pepin) and then see those individuals socially and professionally ostracized out of existence.

You're in the wrong place for that. We have this funny habit of not cowering before fear and scare tactics here. Try something else, cause this won't work.