Boy used ninja sword to kill fellow student

[turquoisefire777]

‘Satanist’ kills boy at school

http://www.witness.co.za/?showcontent&global%5B_id%5D=11825

18 Aug 2008
Leané du Plessis and Amanda Roestoff

Krugersdorp — “Do you want to see something cool?” With these words, in front of classmates, a “possessed” and masked grade 12 pupil at a Krugersdorp school hacked a fellow pupil to death with a Samurai-type sword yesterday morning.

“Watch out! He’s lost his head!” matric pupils shouted, moments before Morné Harmse (18), of the Nic Diederichs Technical High School in Krugersdorp West, pulled out the sword and slashed the neck of Jacques Pretorius (16).

Pupils said Harmse was “possessed by the devil” when he began his violent attack at about 7.20 am.

“Do you want to see something cool?” Harmse apparently said to a matric girl moments before he sliced through Jacques’ aorta.

Jacques’ best friend, JC Welman (16), was standing next to him when he was attacked.

“I was still wondering if it wasn’t a joke, but then I saw the blood bubbling out of his neck,” Welman said, in tears.

Jacques died on the scene, said Netcare 911 spokesman Mark Stokoe.

Stunned pupils told how Harmse, wearing his school uniform and a black and brown mask, walked down the passage and swung his sword about.

Harmse also injured two workers at the school with his sword.

Pupil Stefan Bouwer (17) was also stabbed and another suffered a shock-induced asthma attack.

Harmse finally pushed the blade of the sword into the ground in a small garden next to the school courtyard and sat down.

He pulled off his mask when teachers approached and presented his face, which was smeared with black polish.

“What happened? What happened?” he asked the teachers who took him to the staff room.

“Satan said he is going to kill me if I don’t kill them before the end of the day,” he apparently said earlier.

Pupils were already in assembly when they heard the police sirens.

“A teacher came in after the prayer and said we had to go home until further notice,” a pupil said.

A reliable source said Harmse brought four masks, similar to those worn by the heavy metal band Slipknot, in his school bag.

Apparently he was also carrying three samurai swords.

The source said one of the masks was white, similar to that worn by Slipknot’s drummer Joey.

Another mask was a clown mask, similar to band member Shawn’s, and the third mask was a gasmask as worn by the DJ, Sid.

During the attack Harmse apparently wore a mask similar to the one belonging to the lead singer Corey.

Apparently Harmse tried to persuade friends to join him in the slaying. “He told them: ‘Today is the day you can get back at those who were against you’.”

Harmse apparently also used words such as “masquerade” and “bloodbath”.

His friends said his eyes were red and black, like those of a crazy person.

Supported by his father Johan, his mother Christine and his friend JP Britz, 17, JC Welman told what happened: “We [Jacques and JC] met each other just after 7 am at the tree (near the school’s main gate), like we do everyday.

“We walked to the tuck shop. He bought me a red Foxi Nax and we ate it on the stairs next to the tuck shop,” JC said.

They were on their way to the hall when the attack occurred, JC said.

He ran away and phoned his father on his cellphone.

A few minutes later his father arrived at the school and accompanied him back to where Jacques was.

“I kept talking to him because I was scared he would lapse into a coma.

“I held his leg … his eyes were open but I could see it was already too late,” JC said.

Jacques’ friends and family stood tearfully outside the family’s house.

Elize Froneman, the acting director of the West Rand Education district, referred all questions to the Gauteng Education Department.

Daniella du Plooy reports that spokesman Panyaza Lesufi, who visited the school yesterday, said it was “a sad day for the department”.

“We have been confronted with a lot of school violence over the last while, but nothing of this nature.

“We’ll do everything in our power to control the situation and to prevent similar incidents.”

Those who were injured were treated in hospital. The two workers were discharged and Bouwer was admitted. He was in a stable condition last night.

Meanwhile, Beeld was told confidentially that another 18-year-old boy was arrested with Harmse yesterday.

Police spokesman Captain Jacob Raboroko could only confirm one arrest.

The two boys are expected to appear in the Krugersdorp Magistrate’s Court today on charges of murder and attempted murder.

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Satanism: Behind U.S. school attacks

[dangermouse]

yikes ...

ban all swords :rolleyes:

[deafbred]

Manson is right...we're gunna see a lot of death soon.

[turquoisefire777]

yikes ...

ban all swords :rolleyes:

yeah...and what not else with that.

however, i know that some school kids mess around with occultic stuff they were somehow misled to, and ended up opening some doorway or another for some, yip, demon, and as time went by getting the better of the would be murderer kid.

[element]

All propoganda for religious convertion. Why is this not perfectly visible for the the eye, eh?

And what's wrong with swords?

Better get rid of your knifes too! Which aren't visible on the streets, omg!!

[turquoisefire777]

All propoganda for religious convertion. Why is this not perfectly visible for the the eye, eh?

i don't think this was problem-reaction-solution orchestrated by the evilarchy...i think this incident is as deafbred said:
Manson is right...we're gunna see a lot of death soon.

[deafbred]

there is so much satanic personality traits in EVERYTHING we see and hear and is sold to us in the LIE it was CONTRIVED in. I was watching Discovery Kids this morning and the cartoon I was watching WAS SOOOO EVIL veild. But IN YOUR FACE! ...like it was so obvious, yes. Everything is like the next level of satanism spirit of darkness evolved to the next seduction brain washing state of apathy acceptance.

Look at what the kid's got to listen to...INSANE CLOWN POSSE...the most retarded band on the face of the earth. But yet we as a society ALLOW it to be sold and we allow all this GARBAGE TELEVISION etc.

It's just not THE KIDS FAULT. It's ALOT OF PEOPLES. All controlled and at the mercy of the BEAST SYSTEM EVIL SPIRIT OF GREED LUST LIES ENVIES STRIFES ETC ETC ETC

then we BLAME the victim or the CRIMINAL...when it is ALL OF US...circling around our next devoure of a sacrificed human so we can go about our ways of DIGRACE CONTINUALLY. ON AND ON THE SICKNESS GROWS OLD AND OLD people just don't know? Give me a break...its all FAKE

but its real....and its deadly and its stupid and its just all crazy.

Now in Texas teachers are gunna have guns. Can't wait to see the kids getting knocked down with bullets cuz thats whats gunna start happening.

THINGS ARE SO FAR GONE....WE ARE AT A STAGE NOW...THAT WE ARE INSANE...PERIOD. AND THERE IS NOTHING TO DO TO BANDAID IT AND MAKE IT ANY BETTER TILL WE TURN THE FUCK AROUND AND STOP ALL THIS MADDNESS THAT IS CONTINUING IN THE CULTURE OF PERVERSION DIVERSION.

no ones taking responsibility. blah blah blah

fuck it all

its all sold out

now they want to sell us out to with the new economic system on the view of the horizon

let the garbage have it...let them go with it and get sent out with the garbage that created it.

I seen all along the bullshit going on all around me since day one since I been born. No body wants to face it. Everybody is SCARED. livin in FEAR and so it goes!!!!!!!!!!

just a genocide pit is all i see...it's spirit is all around me NOW

no body cares if I care

it doesn't matter

nothing matters

and this kid KNOWS NOTHING MATTERS cuz he got used and is a pawn in the WHOLE WORLD WHICH THINKS NOTHING MATTERS but money and bullshit schooling and ALL THE THINGS WE aren't facing and standing up against

we're all just gunna fall ...ONE BY ONE

FUN their gunna have with us

just like playing their video games

just like in IRAQ pickin off kids and women and Iraqi's, PLAYING THEIR FUCKIGN DEATH METAL BULLSHIT APATHETIC UNLOVING MUSIC AND BLOWING OFF THE HEADS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE AND WATCHING THEIR GUTS AND BLOOD SPILL OUT ALL OVER THE GROUND MEANWHILE LAUGHING AND HIGH FIVING THEIR BUD'S.

WE ARE ALL FUCKED. PERIOD.

excuse my bullshit view but its TRUE

WE'RE ALL BITCHES

YOU MADE A HELL OF ONE OUT OF ME

BUT THE FACT IS I AIN'T

JUST THAT YOU WON'T LET ME PAINT

with my guitar

with my love

whatever it is

its all above

but you brought me below

here on the ground

to sell me out and sell your products through the cloud of lies and deception

all for gain

yeah get a diploma

sell your soul

be a LEGO

aushfadsjhfjdsfbadsj;f YEAH yeah FIT IN FIT HERE THERE

GO GO Go race race

rah raahh

idk how i havn't had a break down and flipped the fuck out and started dancin in the streets waiting for someone to come at me so I can beat their heads in with my guitar


WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE KILLED.

MURDERS ARE IN CHARGE

LEMMINGS ARE ALL AROUND

EVIL IS RAMPENT

WE ARE FUCKED

PERIOD

BECAUSE NO ONE CARES

EVERYONE IS SCARED

NO ONE WANTS TO STAND

WE JUST ALL BITCHES IN THE LAND

CRACK A BEER BE A DEER A SITTING DUCK, WE ARE GUNNA GET FUCKED

...this is insane....this world is MAD

this is fucking nuts

we are all fucking satanic


:(((((FDF(DS(Fjdiafo;adsfhdasfhadsjlfhadsjfhas;dfl h


fuck fuck fuck fuck I care

why the fuck it's gata be this way...

BE POLITE THEY SAY

BE NICE


GET A LIFE THE FUCKERS SAY


ALL THE WORLD WAY


THE SPIRIT OF THE WORLD

THE DEATH SPECIES

the death the death the death

Im sick of standing alone

no one will stand with me

...the agenda goes on

omg...i can't believe I live in this world. the bullshit is so in your face and yet people clap.

i can't stand it.

no ones REAL

we're letting devils lead us, greed us,

sooooorrrrooow

[turquoisefire777]

THINGS ARE SO FAR GONE....WE ARE AT A STAGE NOW...THAT WE ARE INSANE...PERIOD. AND THERE IS NOTHING TO DO TO BANDAID IT AND MAKE IT ANY BETTER TILL WE TURN THE FUCK AROUND AND STOP ALL THIS MADDNESS THAT IS CONTINUING IN THE CULTURE OF PERVERSION DIVERSION. no ones taking responsibility. blah blah blah



i'll say, with this post you pretty much took the words out of my mouth.

but it's all a "spiritual character test", i'm sure...who's willing to give their last breaths for truth...and see more people "wake up"...and take responsibility for themselves...

[deafbred]

yeh, I meant to say PERVERSION DIVERSION

I liked the part about the lego...

_______________________
all for gain

yeah get a diploma

sell your soul

be a LEGO

aushfadsjhfjdsfbadsj;f YEAH yeah FIT IN FIT HERE THERE

GO GO Go race race

rah raahh
_________________________

but yeah, some people gata tell it like it is
I know it's not a graceful post but somethings got to be said

trying to attempt to shake loose the crazyness - the crazy in others and thats been instilled in myself -
at this point, I could care less about saving face

[jayelowell]

a friend of mine was killed by a samuri sword, BLESS HIS SOUL!

[cleft_asunder]

Pupils said Harmse was “possessed by the devil” when he began his violent attack at about 7.20 am.

Look, no matter how you cut it --no pun intended :rolleyes:-- an 18-year-old (12th grade!!) doesn't pull out a sword, say, "You wanna see something cool?" Then slashes a 16 year old's head off. It's just not even in the realm of possiblity.

Yes, a malicious force took over him, or he was put under mind control of some form. Things like this don't happen naturally.

[cleft_asunder]

yeah...and what not else with that.

however, i know that some school kids mess around with occultic stuff they were somehow misled to, and ended up opening some doorway or another for some, yip, demon, and as time went by getting the better of the would be murderer kid.

That's what the quejee board is all about, now that I think about it.

[cleft_asunder]

All propoganda for religious convertion. Why is this not perfectly visible for the the eye, eh?

And what's wrong with swords?

Better get rid of your knifes too! Which aren't visible on the streets, omg!!

I really doubt it's about that, but yeah it will help in that. Lower demon's seem to generally fuck with people, that's what they do. According to james bartley, certain drugs like crank are put into the population so that people are more easily possessed.

[Anders Lindman]

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/prozac_dees.jpg

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/vtechsplash2_neff.jpg

[peachped]

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/prozac_dees.jpg

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/vtechsplash2_neff.jpg

What are the chances that the kid was on petrochemicals?

[Anders Lindman]

What are the chances that the kid was on petrochemicals?

If I remember correctly, someone said (several researchers saying the same thing) that all the kids that have committed school shooting massacres were on anti-depressants. :eek:

[cleft_asunder]

What are the chances that the kid was on petrochemicals?

Right, because it causes their eyes to turn red and yellow. Come on, even if he was on them, those drugs open you up to demonic possession. I used to know someone who took aderal, and she was open to stuff she normally would never perceive!

[deafbred]

a friend of mine was killed by a samuri sword, BLESS HIS SOUL!

friend of mine owned a samuri sword, bought it for eight hundred dollars. he use to cut up BIG TOADS at his door step that use to eat the flies and bugs at the door light at night in Arizona. He sliced one up on the back and opened its skin. I HATED him for doing that, I thought it was pretty sad he would do something like that to such a nice toad. The biggest toad I ever seen, it was like the size of 2 big mac's.

any hoo...he threatened to chop my head off once and slice my body in half from top to bottom.

I left him behind like twelve states behind.

oh yeah...one day while I was in Arizona I found a dried up toad in the corner of the house. Dried from the sun, after it got sliced up from his samuri sword.

[size_of_light]

Knowing nothing about this case apart from what I've just read in this post, I'll make the following (highly confident) prediction:

We will, on this forum, establish so many strange links between this and The Canadian Bus Beheading Incident, that only a fucking fool would conclude that they were coincidences.

[turquoisefire777]

Look, no matter how you cut it --no pun intended :rolleyes:-- an 18-year-old (12th grade!!) doesn't pull out a sword, say, "You wanna see something cool?" Then slashes a 16 year old's head off. It's just not even in the realm of possiblity.

Yes, a malicious force took over him, or he was put under mind control of some form. Things like this don't happen naturally.

and i'm afraid music makes it easier. i don't want to bitch, because i can remember my heavy metal-loving days. one of my favourite bands were a death metal band called "Hypocrisy".

but, here's one of Slipknot's songs; not something you want to listen to on an "off" day, i'll say:

Hold on to something.

I wanna slit your throat and fuck the wound
I wanna push my face in and feel the swoon
I wanna dig inside, find a little bit of me
Cuz the line gets crossed when you don't come clean

My wormwood meets your pesticide
You'll never get out, cuz you were never alive
I am infinite, I am the infant finite
Come a little closer and I'll show you why

(NO ONE IS - SAFE)
Noises, noises, people make noises
people make noises when they're sick
Nothing to do except hold on to NOTHING (x2)

How does it feel to be locked inside another dream
That never had a chance of being realized?
What the fuck are you lookin' at?
I'll tell you what you're lookin' at
Everyone you ever fuckin' laughed at

Look in my eyes for the answers - typical
I can feel it underneath like a miracle
Everybody in the world needs more than
Lies and consequences to power them
Once again, it's me and no one else
I can't remember if there was a someone else
It's not mine, it's not fair, it's outta my hands
And it's shaking - you'll never take me

(NO ONE IS - SAFE)
Noises, noises, people make noises
People make noises when they're sick
Nothing to do except hold on to NOTHING (x2)

NOTHING! (x2)

Come on

(HATE) Hate ain't enough to describe me
(SCREAM) Somewhere between screaming and crying
I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be

(WHY) When do I get to know why?
(BITTER) Bitter as the stink of when I try
I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be

NO! (no, no, no, no, no)

Pull your hands away
I'm gone - goodbye - it's so depressing
Withering away
Take a look - inside - my soul is missing
All I have is dead, so I'll take you with me
I Feel like I'm erased - so kill me just in case
I Feel like I'm erased - so kill me just in case
Don't kill me, just in case

(COVET) Everything around me's mine
(STAY) Can't see through the sties in my eyes
I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be

(DOWN) Scratching and clawing all the way
(STAY) You won't let me fucking stay
I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be

(LIVE) Is there another way to live?
(DIE) Cuz it's the only way to die
I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be, come on

No, no, no

I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be (x2)


-----------------------------------

sick shit:(

[hunger]

Stay out of school kids, brush your milk & drink your teeth...


But seriously this is simply awful..I held my throat while reading this post...


I need a break from everything....It's just becoming too much:(

[lightworks]

I play music......I dont carry weapons....or have any.....I try to not focus...on fighting....I feel that you attract what you put out.....what I was saying on another thread...is that in an emrgency situation...I would freely defend myself...without any moral highstanding...or personally held guilt

[deafbred]

I play music......I dont carry weapons....or have any.....I try to not focus...on fighting....I feel that you attract what you put out.....what I was saying on another thread...is that in an emrgency situation...I would freely defend myself...without any moral highstanding...or personally held guilt
Revelations...
9He who has an ear, let him hear.
10If anyone is to go into captivity,
into captivity he will go.
If anyone is to be killed[c] with the sword,
with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.

I wonder if it means...if some ONE comes at you with a sword... you should kill HIM...

are my ears hearing correctly ?

how bout yours...

imagine bastards changing small words in the bible Words of God to alter their true purpose...so we don't hear it right and don't know what to think... maybe their way of thinking..

I wonder if some ONE comes at us to PUT US INTO CAPTIVITY...that maybe WE SHOULD BE putting THAT person INTO CAPTIVITY...

heres the English STANDARD VERSION

10(R) If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
(S) if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.

[thegoodnessisgood]

Who needs satanism when you have some of the parents or relatives some kids have.

[turquoisefire777]

yeh, I meant to say PERVERSION DIVERSION


he, he, i wasn't after ur spelling:)

have anyone ever heard of the "2mm rule"

i was at a success seminar once (Anthony Robbins) and he explained the "2mm" rule through a story of a surgeon that knew how to make people look years younger just by making a few 2mm alterations on their faces...and it made all the difference.

also, if a boat or plane has it's co-ordinates put in at the start of the journey, and the co-ordinates gets changes by even so much as 1 degree the vessel would NOT end up in it's intended location.

and that is all Satan os doing...either slightly or exrtemely diverting the human race from it's intended purpose, thus we have so much trouble figuring out what's going on...

however, if we make an effort, even the smallest of positive changes would save us all from ultimate destruction.

[turquoisefire777]

Who needs satanism when you have some of the parents or relatives some kids have.

they are the "victims" of covert Satanic mind control operations. Satan is an intellectual...knows all the little moves to cause big breakdowns.

[godspeed]

they think thier in a game and people feel no pain.....totally insane.....beware of children with hurt feelings....they no longer know what to do with them except make someone else hurt....and also they are so self important they dont think of the consequences of thier actions..i agree cartoons are way too violent and only getting worse so if you got small kids for fuks sake dont let them watch them all day....just asking for your kid to go loopy....

[loveforall]

I live in South Africa where every once in a while something like this happens...

Sex stories is school has become more shocking than violence at school...

Boy am I not surprised they blaming the devils music! But what else would they blame? The TRUTH?!? I doubt it!!!

loveforall

[cheesedanish]

It's still early days on the investigations but I have a few questions:
Maybe they will be answered in the next few days.

- The boy says 'the devil made me do it' - does that mean he was into Satanism? Could he not have been slight Schizophrenic and could have 'heard voices' and maybe we are mistaking a mental illness for Satanism.

- Have they searched the boys house/room to find any possession linking him to be involved in Satanism or in fact in confirming any possesion of Slipknot Cd's.

- Reports say no drugs involved - but I still think early days before any proper tests or pschological evalutions.

- Of course not ruling out the possibility of mind control knowing what I have read through on this forum.

[cheesedanish]

Oh - one more thing the band Slipknot said they 'want nothing to do this - Leave us out of it'. I mean of course - they are no way implicated. How could they even prove those are Slipknot masks the boy had in his possession.

[lumukanda]

they always blame metal in south africa, they've been doing it since i was at school.

this bit freaked me out a bit when i read it :

"His words to us were: 'When I put on the mask, everything went dead quiet and my body started moving. I wanted to stop, but I couldn't.
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2379836,00.html

whether or not he was mind controlled, they'll use it. i won't be surprised if we see metal detectors and cameras a la america here soon.

[deafbred]

they always blame metal in south africa, they've been doing it since i was at school.

this bit freaked me out a bit when i read it :
Quote:
"His words to us were: 'When I put on the mask, everything went dead quiet and my body started moving. I wanted to stop, but I couldn't.
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2379836,00.html

whether or not he was mind controlled, they'll use it. i won't be surprised if we see metal detectors and cameras a la america here soon.

o god i thought you said mental detectors..

the mask eh? interesting..

[jfkay]

how does a guy get into school with 3 samurai swords?
its not like theyre easy to hide.
what the fuck?
i have one, its razor sharp, i dare not leave the house with it because i know i would be arrested. i couldnt even hide one, let alone 3.

the only possibility is putting the into a gold caddy, or a snooker cue holder

[turquoisefire777]

they always blame metal in south africa, they've been doing it since i was at school.

this bit freaked me out a bit when i read it :


http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2379836,00.html

whether or not he was mind controlled, they'll use it. i won't be surprised if we see metal detectors and cameras a la america here soon.

where's Rodney Seale now, eh?:D

but seriously, negative music falls under the Law of Attracion as much as anything;
Galatians 6:7
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.

i'm almost embarrased to say that i had to get rid of my cd's that were *ahem* too evil, not because someone told me to, but the low vibes they gave off were starting to bug me...alot.

[lightworks]

Revelations...
9He who has an ear, let him hear.
10If anyone is to go into captivity,
into captivity he will go.
If anyone is to be killed[c] with the sword,
with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.

I wonder if it means...if some ONE comes at you with a sword... you should kill HIM...

are my ears hearing correctly ?

how bout yours...

imagine bastards changing small words in the bible Words of God to alter their true purpose...so we don't hear it right and don't know what to think... maybe their way of thinking..

I wonder if some ONE comes at us to PUT US INTO CAPTIVITY...that maybe WE SHOULD BE putting THAT person INTO CAPTIVITY...

heres the English STANDARD VERSION

10(R) If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
(S) if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.

no disrespect to you deafbred...but I do not think the bible is real...I think it was or is just an ancient metyhod of mind control....same as the koran....same as the talmud...all just ideas

[lumukanda]

where's Rodney Seale now, eh?:D

but seriously, negative music falls under the Law of Attracion as much as anything;


i'm almost embarrased to say that i had to get rid of my cd's that were *ahem* too evil, not because someone told me to, but the low vibes they gave off were starting to bug me...alot.
i hear you, i still have them somewhere but i just kinda grew out of it, my musical tastes changed, i do pull them out from time to time when i feel like something loud though.
growing up as a metalhead in the early 90's in a conservative south african town was an experience though, so i can empathise with these kids, but hell i never thought of killing everyone in the school (maybe my maths teacher now that i come to think of it).
but the energy around lots of this music is seriously negative, but negative enough to go around killing people?
what was the first thing that was blamed after the columbine shootings? the music, it plays a part i'm sure, but there is far more too it.
i'd be interested to see what his dad does for a living.

[turquoisefire777]

no disrespect to you deafbred...but I do not think the bible is real...I think it was or is just an ancient metyhod of mind control....same as the koran....same as the talmud...all just ideas

soz to jump in your response to deafbred, but please allow me to state a case for the bible like this...

one of America's most seccessfull laywers, Gerry Spence wrote a book over 10 years ago called "how to argue and win everytime".
on the back of the book Gerry put the 10 main points for a winning argument.
no.2 reads something like this: "Winning is getting what we want, which also means helping others get what they want"

thus, because this is a world of deceit and evil we live in, God had to wrap Truth in symbology and with wording that would allow ignorance to easily mislead people. the Bible is NOT the only source of God's "word", just a source.

i personally prefer the New Living Translation (http://www.newlivingtranslation.com/) which has taken out all the difficult words so fools like me can understand it better.

[turquoisefire777]

i hear you, i still have them somewhere but i just kinda grew out of it, my musical tastes changed, i do pull them out from time to time when i feel like something loud though.
growing up as a metalhead in the early 90's in a conservative south african town was an experience though, so i can empathise with these kids, but hell i never thought of killing everyone in the school (maybe my maths teacher now that i come to think of it).
but the energy around lots of this music is seriously negative, but negative enough to go around killing people?
what was the first thing that was blamed after the columbine shootings? the music, it plays a part i'm sure, but there is far more too it.
i'd be interested to see what his dad does for a living.

yeah, if anything, the dark music somehow made me forget about doing something nasty, instead of doing it, it was like an outlet.

but when some of the metalheads i know found out about what happened, they ripped the shit out of the killer kid...laughing...because "Slipknot sucks!", "what a looser! killing people because of Slipknot! WHAAAAAA!!!!"

some of the stuff i used to listen to was sraight from hell...but the sad truth is the dark forces in this world are very cunning and they know how to have a "build up" leading to an event. and we can't argue with all the bad things thats covered up as "enjoyable". people themselves have so much negativity, anger and fear in them that they can quite easily flip out and do stupid things.
there's just too much evil interference to try and live a descent life, pretty much anywhere.

[turquoisefire777]

how does a guy get into school with 3 samurai swords?
its not like theyre easy to hide.
what the fuck?
i have one, its razor sharp, i dare not leave the house with it because i know i would be arrested. i couldnt even hide one, let alone 3.

the only possibility is putting the into a gold caddy, or a snooker cue holder

usually Katana blades are seen as ornaments, hence no one usually pays attention when they see one, i think.

or he could have lied and said it was for a school play.

[cheesedanish]

His Mom said he was bullied alot. Kids at this age are Very impressionable.
He was prob. lashing out - all that pressure built up inside.
If there were problems at home I dont think his Mom is about to fess up.

Usually these random killers usually commit suicide - I guess it's a bit
difficult when you have a Samurai sword - no joke intended.

[lightworks]

Revelations...
9He who has an ear, let him hear.
10If anyone is to go into captivity,
into captivity he will go.
If anyone is to be killed[c] with the sword,
with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.

I wonder if it means...if some ONE comes at you with a sword... you should kill HIM...

are my ears hearing correctly ?

how bout yours...

imagine bastards changing small words in the bible Words of God to alter their true purpose...so we don't hear it right and don't know what to think... maybe their way of thinking..

I wonder if some ONE comes at us to PUT US INTO CAPTIVITY...that maybe WE SHOULD BE putting THAT person INTO CAPTIVITY...

heres the English STANDARD VERSION

10(R) If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
(S) if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.
im rather more concerned with where my next shag is coming from as opposed to my next fight....