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logic bomb
20-08-2008, 07:58 PM
Man arrested and locked up for five hours after taking photo of police van ignoring 'no entry' sign

When Andrew Carter saw a police van ignore no-entry signs to reverse up a one-way street to reach a chip shop, he was understandably moved to protest to the driver. Particularly as he lives on the road and always goes out of his way to obey the signs.
But his complaint brought a volley of abuse from PC Aqil Farooq. And when Mr Carter took a picture of the van then tried to photograph the officer, PC Farooq rushed out of the shop and knocked his camera to the ground.
Mr Carter was then arrested and bundled into the van over claims he had 'assaulted' an officer with his camera, resisted arrest and was drunk and disorderly.
He was held in a police cell for five hours before being released on bail at midnight.

More (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1046853/Man-arrested-locked-hours-taking-photo-police-van-ignoring-entry-sign.html)

pheony
20-08-2008, 09:29 PM
Loved the comments. I think people are becoming much more aware, which is good.

qasrose
20-08-2008, 09:49 PM
Man arrested and locked up for five hours after taking photo of police van ignoring 'no entry' sign

When Andrew Carter saw a police van ignore no-entry signs to reverse up a one-way street to reach a chip shop, he was understandably moved to protest to the driver. Particularly as he lives on the road and always goes out of his way to obey the signs.
But his complaint brought a volley of abuse from PC Aqil Farooq. And when Mr Carter took a picture of the van then tried to photograph the officer, PC Farooq rushed out of the shop and knocked his camera to the ground.
Mr Carter was then arrested and bundled into the van over claims he had 'assaulted' an officer with his camera, resisted arrest and was drunk and disorderly.
He was held in a police cell for five hours before being released on bail at midnight.

More (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1046853/Man-arrested-locked-hours-taking-photo-police-van-ignoring-entry-sign.html)

That just shows you, that the police think they can do anything they damn want, which they can not. I would have pressed charges for damage to the camera and public arrest. That drunk and disorderly looks like they said that just to cover there asses up. :D

stickwhistler
20-08-2008, 11:41 PM
That just shows you, that the police think they can do anything they damn want, which they can not. I would have pressed charges for damage to the camera and public arrest. That drunk and disorderly looks like they said that just to cover there asses up. :D


A lot of police think that "THEY ARE THE LAW" like Judge Dred!

The police can be sued for wrongful arrest and false imprisonment,
and the accepted punitive damages are £500 per hour or part there-of
up to £3,000 per day, or part there-of.

The police will always try to charge you with an offence for 2 reasons.

1) Criminal law takes place over civil law, so the police get their case heard first,
and will not even look at your case against them, until the criminal case is over.
If you get found guilty, then all your complaints are ignored as it is presumed that
you are just vexatious i.e. doing it to get back at them - even if you made a complaint first.

2) If any criminal charges could be laid against the individual cop,
the time taken to go through their criminal case against you, and you get found not guilty etc,
and only then do the Professional Standards take a look at your case,
the CPS usually rule 'out of time' or 'not in the public interest' because of the time lag.

I would make a complaint to the IPCC, MP, and chief constable.
If you get the complaint upheld, sue!
I would sue in the county court.

Keep your amount below £5K, including costs, and it'll almost certainly be fast tracked to small claims.
I wanted the chief c*ntstable in court to give him some home truths about his staff, but they paid on the way in.

If they make an offer, and you turn it down, they can bring that up,
and it can go against you i.e. an offer was made etc.
If the offer is near what you claim - and the first one will not be,
I'd take it just to get the judgment rubber stamped later,
and get the cash without arguing, and 'win' your moral victory.

wakeupworld
21-08-2008, 12:40 AM
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=273220&in_page_id=34&in_a_source=&expand=true

As Icke has stated when the people who are meant to enforce the law behave so that they think they are above the law then that is dictatorship.

fedora
21-08-2008, 01:43 AM
Over here in America I was at a red light in a double turn lane waiting to turn left. I was in the outside lane and the police officer was in the inside lane. As the light turned green we proceded to execute the turn. At that point the officer started to come into my lane. I had nowhere to go so I started to sound my horn yet she kept coming. I had to veer right and slam on the brakes and I almost ended up in the guard rail yet the officer never acknowledged my presence. What's worse is that she had a civilian oberver with her. I wasn't sure if her behavior was due to diminished faculties or she just didn't care.

upsetbrit
21-08-2008, 03:30 AM
Every care must be taken that our auxiliaries, being stronger than our citizens, may not grow too much for them and become savage beasts. - Plato.

drhemp
21-08-2008, 08:09 PM
I thought incidents like this are all part of having a Police State. The New World Order will be pleased things are moving along to plan for them.

mr_pixie
21-08-2008, 08:18 PM
The police are out of control, they think there above the law.

rickcard
21-08-2008, 09:33 PM
Logic Bomb

Kent Police Authority sent me a complaint form after ignoring correspondence for 11 years. This may be because I appear to have gained Judicial Tribunal access for my submission to the Rosemary Nelson Inquiry. So KPA may feel it circumspect to appear to be doing something.

The history of alleged venomous police persecution of a Thanet family (who called in MOD to close a gun range used by off duty police in 1995) includes being shot at by off duty Kent Police (yes), malicious warrant raids, up to 80 producers per year, conspiracxy to bring charges (two cases thrown out by Crown Court judges with criticism of police by Judges), teenage son cornered for failing to appear at court on yet another motoring charge and two police dogs released on him as he cowered in a garden shed.

In addition there are abuses of the Protection from Harassment Act, arrests of the family's daughter leading to body search and 30 hour in cell then no charges.

There were threats to the Chair of the Residents Assn who took their case up. Threats to the ex Army expert witness to off duty police dangerous live fire skylarking at the range. (The ex Army man has just given a statement to the police authority)

Way back before this. Way back to 1980 when I was a miner and part time bouncer we banned off duty Kent Police from our disco. And we copped a lot of hassle from on duty police in the early hours on our way home from club door work. Because we had bounced Kent Police support group and banned police from the club. This endless stop and producer crap culminated in me throwing a six foot six inch Kent Pc over his police car one night. And the result was I complained against police and was asked if it could be dealt with by local advice to the officer.

It was 15 years later that Victim Support phoned me (an ex Met copper) and told me that the Pc I had given a hiding had been on a good behaviour transfer to Kent from Met where as a sergeant he had a string of violence complaints against him. That was what Kent Police were covering up when they did not charge me for giving him a hiding when he tried his Met crap on in Thanet and got a slapping.

The Police are out of control and it is no new thing.

I continue to use the system in the hope justioce will be done. Part of our complaints is that we gave breach of security warnings before the 1989 bombing by IRA of Deal Barrtacks where 11 Royal Marines died. We want Kent Police brought to book for failing to act on the warnings.

But our experience is that they are venomous in seeking to avoid a detrmination at the law they are supposed to uphold.

Best wishes Rick

rickcard
21-08-2008, 09:40 PM
One of the cases the Chair of Residents Assn took up is the Pc HILLS and BURGESS case which resulted in convictions for breaking a prisoner neck.

Complaints now finally going to KPA include that complainants of earlier alleged violence and subtance abuse by Pc HILLS (who the Court was told thought he was a "Thanet street warrior") were intimidated into not coming forward whilst the case was sub judice.

The Area Commander who refused earlier assault and substannce abuse complaints went on to "Independently" investigate the Coroners concerns re the family murderer Pc Bluestone who also had a history of exemption from assault complaints when a Thanet Pc.

Yes the police need bringing to heel.

ironwand
22-08-2008, 09:09 PM
On 20 August 2008, The Daily Mail quoted PC Aqil Farooq as having said this to Andrew Carter:

F*** off, this is police business!

Andrew had just pointed out that the police van Farooq was driving had just reversed up a one-way street, ignoring no-entry signs in the process.

Andrew explained:

The no-entry signs mean you are supposed to drive all the way around the block, like I do every night... when the police van did it I sort of said, 'Hey mate no entry' but he just shouted out the window, 'F*** off, this is police business'. But WHEN I TOOK A PHOTO OF THEM HE CAME RUNNING OUT, BATTERED THE CAMERA FROM MY HAND ON TO THE FLOOR AND ARRESTED ME FOR THREE CRIMES, NONE OF WHICH I'D COMMITTED.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1046853/Man-arrested-locked-hours-taking-photo-police-van-ignoring-entry-sign.html

The Mail added:

Mr Carter was... bundled into the van over claims he had 'assaulted' an officer with his camera, resisted arrest and was drunk and disorderly. He was held in a police cell for five hours before being released on bail at midnight...

Mr Carter was never charged with any offence. His complaint over his wrongful arrest led PC Farooq to face a disciplinary tribunal last month... and (he) has since received a personal apology from PC Farooq and Rob Beckley, deputy chief constable of Avon and Somerset Constabulary...

Mr Beckley, who chaired the tribunal, apologised to Mr Carter in writing for PC Farooq's 'totally unacceptable' behaviour and said THE OFFICER'S FUTURE PERFORMANCE WILL BE MONITORED...

It is understood NO FURTHER ACTION WAS TAKEN AGAINST PC FAROOQ, WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE BLACK POLICE ASSOCIATION'S AVON AND SOMERSET BRANCH.

According to a report from the Bristol Equalities Network published two years ago, PC Farooq's duties within the BPA included work with the wider community on 'GOOD RELATIONS WITH THE POLICE'.

AT THE TIME HE WAS THE BRANCH'S GENERAL SECRETARY.

So, the nasty, Asian liar, who swore at a solid, British citizen doing his civic duty, abused his personal property and then arrested him on trumped-up charges, will have his "future performance monitored".

But, apart from that, "no further action" will be taken.

Thus, a police officer can bring charges against a decent, British man that could see him imprisoned and, when that officer is found to have been making the whole thing up, he will not lose his job.

And the officer in question is then free to do the same thing again if he feels like it.

I wonder, if the nasty, lying cop had been an indigenous Brit, do you think he might, quite rightly, have got the push? Does anyone out there think that the fact that the nasty liar was the Black Police Association’s Branch Secretary might have had anything to do with him being given a slap on the wrist, as opposed to being kicked off the force?

I wonder if the nasty, lying cop has done anything like this before?

I wonder if there are any more Aqil Farooq types abusing decent, British folk and getting away with it?

"Good relations with the police", eh?

Well, I should imagine PC Farooq and those who think that "no further action" should be taken against him, would have good relations with the politicians, the media darlings and the PC Crowd, but as for the rest of us?

Ask Andrew Carter.

johno
22-08-2008, 09:32 PM
I used to respect our British Bobby.... Nowdays i just think they are fucking PIGS!!!!!!!!!

ennui
22-08-2008, 10:16 PM
Their brains have been fried by airwaves radios

delamo1999
22-08-2008, 10:25 PM
The "police charities" have the nerve to make phone calls to people and guilting them into giving them money. Sad thing is that a lot of people still have faith in the police system and willingly do it without question. I know a woman who said that she does not mind paying taxes since the money is going to the schools and the police force. So she thinks this is where our hard earned tax money is going.

Why is it that the masses are afraid of learning the truth?

:)

heebeejeebee
22-08-2008, 10:29 PM
the "police charities" have the nerve to make phone calls to people and guilting them into giving them money. Sad thing is that a lot of people still have faith in the police system and willingly do it without question. I know a woman who said that she does not mind paying taxes since the money is going to the schools and the police force. So she thinks this is where our hard earned tax money is going.

Why is it that the masses are afraid of learning the truth?

:)

because they can't handle the truth!!!!!!!!

duckingdafta
22-08-2008, 10:34 PM
I wonder what setting frequency the coppers microchip was set at!;)

batou
22-08-2008, 10:38 PM
No defence for the pigs but you sound a little Xenophobic ironwand

"Mr Carter said he is 'relatively happy' with the outcome as he hadn't wanted the officer sacked. However, he is still pursuing compensation from the force."

The gov. has deep deep pockets don't they? Guess who ends up paying for his compensation... YOU DO!

Cop overreacted for sure. Who knows ALL the details of the real story though?

llogun
22-08-2008, 10:42 PM
I used to respect our British Bobby.... Nowdays i just think they are fucking PIGS!!!!!!!!!
i call them robots dress as pigs

jp13
22-08-2008, 10:48 PM
I've posted this before, but similar stuff apart from black cop good cop.
My unfortunate encounter with the police:
As usual I went to the carnival this year and took my camera, to take pictures of anything I may find interesting.
I took a few of some local bands, then I noticed the police CCTV van and thought I'll take a picture of that,so I did.
I then noticed a policeman with a mini CCTV cam on his head, above his left ear. I have never seen the police with such personal surveilance equipment before, so I thought I'll take a picture of that. I took one photo, and his female colleague noticed, next thing I know they had come over to me and were asking me "Did I have any I.D. on me?" "Where do I live?", "Have I been in trouble with the police before?" "Where was my accent from?" Why was i taking pictures of police and their equipment?".
After having answered them and saying I took pictures of the camera on the head of the policeman because I had never seen it before, and I am interested in such things.
I was then CRO'd and they found out I didn't have a record, the policeman asked to look at the pics on my camera, and asked me to delete any that had police stuff in them, then I could go.
I felt like I was beig watched after that, and soon went home.
So, one of the worst carnivals so far for me.

sannox
22-08-2008, 11:02 PM
the mails ran stories like this before usually pointing out that the coppers were only trying to do their jobs wonder why they tried a different aproach this time ?

steevo
22-08-2008, 11:11 PM
On 20 August 2008, The Daily Mail quoted PC Aqil Farooq as having said this to Andrew Carter:



Andrew had just pointed out that the police van Farooq was driving had just reversed up a one-way street, ignoring no-entry signs in the process.

Andrew explained:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1046853/Man-arrested-locked-hours-taking-photo-police-van-ignoring-entry-sign.html

The Mail added:



So, the nasty, Asian liar, who swore at a solid, British citizen doing his civic duty, abused his personal property and then arrested him on trumped-up charges, will have his "future performance monitored".

But, apart from that, "no further action" will be taken.

Thus, a police officer can bring charges against a decent, British man that could see him imprisoned and, when that officer is found to have been making the whole thing up, he will not lose his job.

And the officer in question is then free to do the same thing again if he feels like it.

I wonder, if the nasty, lying cop had been an indigenous Brit, do you think he might, quite rightly, have got the push? Does anyone out there think that the fact that the nasty liar was the Black Police Association’s Branch Secretary might have had anything to do with him being given a slap on the wrist, as opposed to being kicked off the force?

I wonder if the nasty, lying cop has done anything like this before?

I wonder if there are any more Aqil Farooq types abusing decent, British folk and getting away with it?

"Good relations with the police", eh?

Well, I should imagine PC Farooq and those who think that "no further action" should be taken against him, would have good relations with the politicians, the media darlings and the PC Crowd, but as for the rest of us?

Ask Andrew Carter.

Do you hate Asian coppers now ? If so, then the "divide and rule" tactics have worked.

The Asian copper is a nasty piece of work YES. But he is just a pawn in the game and he is being used to created hatred and division.

drhemp
23-08-2008, 02:26 AM
Loved the comments. I think people are becoming much more aware, which is good.

bet they don't publish my comment:

Good to see so many people on the Daily Mail's web site so opposed to this disgraceful abuse of police powers. The irony of it all is that these kind of things are happening more and more in Britain precisely because we have a spineless Government that panders to the right wing views of the Daily Mail.

llogun
23-08-2008, 07:26 AM
Good job the taser gun as not been issued to all the coppers yet. He would of been tasered for sure by that wanker of a copper and for what, a bag of chips and curry sauce

legendary
23-08-2008, 08:51 AM
the police like to try and exert their authority in such a manner. they even tried to do it to David Icke during one of his documentaries lol. my friend received 1000pounds compensation for unlawful arrest before as well, it's a pity the police van wasn't fitted with a camera lol. i saw a video in America where the cops car recorded him stealing a hench like sportsbag full of cannabis:D

maybe this is just PRS from another perspective. police abuse their powers, lets make more cameras to stop them

PS 2 similiar things have happened to friends of mine.
1. there was a fight being broken up by police, my mate went over and askd what was going on. officer slams him into the side of the van and arrests him for being drunk and disorderly. his brother goes up and says what are you doing they say step back or we'll arrest you too. he called the guy a prick and starts walking off so the guy grabs him, takes his phone out of his hand and smashes it on the floor then arrests him for being drunk and disorderly as well. sadly they were never compensated and apparently the reason his phone was smashed was the police officer suspected it was an 'offensive weapon'

2. Not quite the same as the first one, but a friend of mine was robbed on his way back from a club, reports it to police along with its location. because one camera they had in the area filmed him walking but not being robbed, they accused him of attempting insurance fraud, and threatened to take him to court if he didn't withdraw his statement

ironwand
23-08-2008, 05:42 PM
Do you hate Asian coppers now ? If so, then the "divide and rule" tactics have worked.

The Asian copper is a nasty piece of work YES. But he is just a pawn in the game and he is being used to created hatred and division.

I don't like foreigners who screw with the British in Britain.

I wouldn't treat them with disrespect in their own neck of the woods. I wouldn't ethnically cleanse them out of their own ancient stamping grounds. And I wouldn't think much of those who cuddled up to me and sneered at their own in the land that THEY made.

Not so long ago, outside of the PC brainwash, ALL Britons would have been appalled by the ungrateful and discourteous alien. ALL Britons would have been furious with a government who put them first in the land that the Briton made.

It's the new-fangled, botwag Brit who has encouraged the Aqil Farooqs to behave as they do. With a good deal of help from the social engineers and the traitorous politicians, of course.

And the PC Crowd.

And the creatures behind the scenes that own them all.

And the sheeple and the lemmings and the teletubbies and zombies.

Who are owned by everyone but themselves.

mynameis
23-08-2008, 05:46 PM
I don't like foreigners who screw with the British in Britain.

I wouldn't treat them with disrespect in their own neck of the woods. I wouldn't ethnically cleanse them out of their own ancient stamping grounds. And I wouldn't think much of those who cuddled up to me and sneered at their own in the land that THEY made.

Not so long ago, outside of the PC brainwash, ALL Britons would have been appalled by the ungrateful and discourteous alien. ALL Britons would have been furious with a government who put them first in the land that the Briton made.

It's the new-fangled, botwag Brit who has encouraged the Aqil Farooqs to behave as they do. With a good deal of help from the social engineers and the traitorous politicians, of course.

And the PC Crowd.

And the creatures behind the scenes that own them all.

And the sheeple and the lemmings and the teletubbies and zombies.

Who are owned by everyone but themselves.

You do realize British are German Saxon and pushed out the Welsh and Celts? Before that it was the Romans who tried to destroy/conquer the population on British soil.

belial
23-08-2008, 06:15 PM
Have already commented on this on several forums... but I'll repeat myself again:

The Police have lost it... the 'good coppers' are now gone.

Sheep: wake up!!!!... 'the forum post-count accumulators are already looking for a smart-ass answer I see'

I now go shopping, to the pub, out on a nice quiet meal: HEAVILY ARMED.

I am a man of NON-VIOLENCE... but PIG/POLICE OFFICERS: you will be sorry if you attack me. I'm just trying to 'abide by the law', 'protect my family', etc.... I can't stress this enough... your PIG training is a joke... PIGS are trained by 'Common Purpose' scum.

I refer to: NU-LIARBORE ANTI-TERRORISM LAWS: WHERE PIGS CAN BASICALLY DO WHAT THEY LIKE IN THE NAME OF: TERRORISM.

YOU CAN GET ARRESTED FOR TAKING A PICTURE OF A BRIDGE, FFS:
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=146&a=2257

... and violence solves nothing?!?!?!



PIGS: you follow GOVERNMENT guidelines and are brainwashed into thinking that's right... what's worse: I pay your f'ing wages... PIGS: I own you. You attack me then I will use equal force. You've got a gun?... I've got something more lethal.... I suppose I am a terrorist now? LOL.

Don't get me wrong... the sheep love the Pigs... they think they do a good job... and so do the MSM.


And the best bit?

- I will ignore Zionist comments
- My IP address is BS
- Because this forum just mouths off and does nothing, I'm proved right again
- For those that really WANT to change things... then you alrealy know where to go

Peace and God bless.