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lookfar
19-08-2008, 05:00 PM
Just read this on BBC News & thought I'd share it with you as it reminded me of the 100th Monkey Syndrome. I'm not really sure what the real purpose is behind it though....

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2807/dolphintaillo7.jpg

A wild dolphin is apparently teaching other members of her group to walk on their tails, a behaviour usually seen only after training in captivity.

The tail-walking group lives along the south Australian coast near Adelaide.

One of them spent a short time after illness in a dolphinarium 20 years ago and may have picked up the trick there.

Scientists studying the group say tail-walk tuition has not been seen before, and suggest the habit may emerge as a form of "culture" among this group.

"We can't for the life of us work out why they do it," said Mike Bossley from the Whale and Dolphin Conservation Society (WDCS), one of the scientists who have been monitoring the group on the Port River estuary.

"We're doing systematic observations now to determine if there's something that may trigger it, but so far we haven't found anything," he told BBC News.

In the 1980s, Billie, one of the females in the group, spent a few weeks in a local dolphinarium recovering from malnutrition and sickness, a consequence of having been trapped in a marina lock. It would seem that among the Port River dolphins we may have an incipient tail-walking culture

She received no training there, but may have seen others tail-walking.

Now, other females in the group have picked up the habit. It is seen rarely in the wild, and the obvious inference is that they have learned it from Billie.

"This indicates that they do learn from each other, which is not a surprise really, but it does also seem that they exhibit elements of what in humans we would call 'cultural' behaviour," said Dr Bossley.

"These are things that groups develop and are passed between individuals and that come to define those groups, such as language or dancing; and it would seem that among the Port River dolphins we may have an incipient tail-walking culture."

The "cultural" transmission of ideas and skills has been documented in apes, while dolphins off the coast of Western Australia are known to teach their young to use sponges as an aid when gathering food.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7570097.stm

free_soul
19-08-2008, 05:10 PM
cool to see a nice post here :)

Looks quite cool wonder if its a renegade ex-captive dolphin :P:P

duckingdafta
19-08-2008, 05:16 PM
Intelligent beings eh?.. common purpose..charge them rent! or take their land/waters...basically make them work for humans will be a plan somewhere down the line

jayelowell
19-08-2008, 05:46 PM
i love dolphins!!!

psychicdefender
19-08-2008, 07:01 PM
"We can't for the life of us work out why they do it,"

Erm.. I haven't got a degree in anything but my scientific explanation is 'because it's fun!' :rolleyes:

kingmonkey
19-08-2008, 07:07 PM
"We can't for the life of us work out why they do it,"

Erm.. I haven't got a degree in anything but my scientific explanation is 'because it's fun!' :rolleyes:

Yeah, One of em probably said, "that's cool, how do you do that?!"

Some (well, most) scientists are just too far up their own arse some times.

rixxmixxhell
19-08-2008, 07:13 PM
Exactly! Must be much fun to do :)

Imagine sharks doing that !:eek:!

Ian2day
19-08-2008, 08:53 PM
Serial reproduction is not confined to humans. Only a nomad would think we are the most intelligent species or the only one capable of passing on artistic cultural artefacts to others.

lookfar
19-08-2008, 09:12 PM
cool to see a nice post here :)

Looks quite cool wonder if its a renegade ex-captive dolphin :P:P

Thanks free soul, I thought so too:)

It did say that one of them had spent some time in a dolphinarium so could've picked it up from there & decided it was good to do:D

delamo1999
19-08-2008, 09:43 PM
Thanks for posting this. What a great picture.

:)

lightworks
19-08-2008, 09:47 PM
interesting

damagedbrainn
20-08-2008, 12:56 AM
Dolphins exhibit a lot of behavior which indicates both their capacity for learning, creative innovation, and a desire to just have fun. There's the whole bubble thing that they do. Dolphins in captivity have been known to perform "tricks" and even to invent their own without having to be enticed with a reward. Separate groups around the world create their own particular hunting techniques, some of which involves cooperation with humans (Killer Whales are known for this as well). They're also one of the only animals besides humans who have sex outside of any mating or ovulation cycle, which indicates that they do it just for fun. And, though a morbid example, they've also been shown to kill young porpoises for no apparent reason at all other than....well, for fun.

shodan
20-08-2008, 01:00 AM
the wild dolphins up here do that in a line of about 6 or 7, its breathtaking

lookfar
20-08-2008, 01:10 AM
the wild dolphins up here do that in a line of about 6 or 7, its breathtaking

Aw really shodster, that must be awesome to see, you lucky boy you:D:p

dolphinswink
20-08-2008, 01:14 AM
Thanks for sharing this :)

I believe dolphins and whales, etal are superior to us humans in many ways .. and if humans would let go of their egos and open their minds, they'd find much to learn from our marine friends and apply those lessons and messages to creating a much better world ....

Naive and idealistic, perhaps ... but that's what I believe :cool:

deafbred
20-08-2008, 01:24 AM
my cat walked up the stairs yesterday

started talking...

was like meowieowieowie owieo owie eow

it was like almost words

pretty funny

cats like 2 monts old

kanz
20-08-2008, 02:46 AM
Reminds me of the episodes on the Simpson's where the dolphins invade and retake the land. :D

limelady
20-08-2008, 03:35 AM
Dolphins exhibit a lot of behavior which indicates both their capacity for learning, creative innovation, and a desire to just have fun. There's the whole bubble thing that they do. Dolphins in captivity have been known to perform "tricks" and even to invent their own without having to be enticed with a reward. Separate groups around the world create their own particular hunting techniques, some of which involves cooperation with humans (Killer Whales are known for this as well). They're also one of the only animals besides humans who have sex outside of any mating or ovulation cycle, which indicates that they do it just for fun. And, though a morbid example, they've also been shown to kill young porpoises for no apparent reason at all other than....well, for fun.

Yes, your right db. I have always loved and admired dolphins for their beauty, their intelligence, their strong sense of kinship (family bonds), and their kindness towards human beings. But just like humans, dolphins have a dark side to their nature, so we ought not delude ourselves into believing they are spiritually superior to us, at least with respect to how we as humans understand consciousness and spirituality.