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chris
17-08-2008, 10:57 AM
I remember watching a historical program and David Attenborough (sp) came across an old human skeleton and he said that all people around that period (pre-agriculture) had bones were 3 times stronger than ours, all were well over 6 foot tall and were many times stronger than us today.

Does anyone have any links to this kind of information?

chattanova
17-08-2008, 11:04 AM
Not exactly a link for that, but Fossil Database is a very interesting collection of humanoid fossils dating back to 7 million years http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/

kblood
17-08-2008, 11:51 AM
I have heard that our planet is growing, which is what I figured myself as well after seeing the world map. For some reason I guess that isnt accepted as common knowledge, even though just looking at a world map makes it seem obvious, and look at history of fossil also makes it seem most likely.

If Earth is growing bigger and bigger, maybe it has a fully grown size biological beings like us, but since it is probably more plantlike than humanlike, I guess it can just keep growing. But if it is growing, then gravity is most likely also becomming stronger, and the pressure in water becomming stronger as well. So millions of years ago it was easier for animals to grow bigger and stronger, and also easier to travel around our planet since it was smaller, while they where probably faster due to their size.

The theory of Earth growing seems to me to help make alot of sense about Earths history and the history of civilisation, although it doesnt answer all the questions alone.

hirschfelder
17-08-2008, 12:49 PM
I remember watching a historical program and David Attenborough (sp) came across an old human skeleton and he said that all people around that period (pre-agriculture) had bones were 3 times stronger than ours, all were well over 6 foot tall and were many times stronger than us today.

Does anyone have any links to this kind of information?

Lloyd Pye goes into this, he has a few lectures on Google Video and a lot of info on his interpipe

http://www.lloydpye.com/

Click the "intervention" tab on the left

chris
17-08-2008, 01:07 PM
Thanks but this is not a theory this is accepted science...They are studying real humans...

hirschfelder
17-08-2008, 01:16 PM
Thanks but this is not a theory this is accepted science...They are studying real humans...

Yes but Mr Pye uses the accepted science to come up with his theory - that modern humans are inferior to pre-humans in terms of strength, bone density, the mechanics of walking and so-on because of some kind of genetic meddling

You asked for links to information on pre-agricultural humans and their apparent physical superiority

hirschfelder
17-08-2008, 01:20 PM
Lake Turkana Boy

Every bone in this boy's body is thicker and more robust than any of, say, Arnold Schwarzenegger's

Full of examples like that

Mo0n5tar
17-08-2008, 02:12 PM
What about the pygmies?

kblood
17-08-2008, 09:37 PM
Yes but Mr Pye uses the accepted science to come up with his theory - that modern humans are inferior to pre-humans in terms of strength, bone density, the mechanics of walking and so-on because of some kind of genetic meddling

You asked for links to information on pre-agricultural humans and their apparent physical superiority

Seems a bit more likely that we simply stopped needing the strength for our survival. If someone meddled with our genetics, and if they were aliens or something like that using humans as slaves, wouldnt it make more sense if they kept them strong, but less intelligent?

hirschfelder
17-08-2008, 09:49 PM
Seems a bit more likely that we simply stopped needing the strength for our survival. If someone meddled with our genetics, and if they were aliens or something like that using humans as slaves, wouldnt it make more sense if they kept them strong, but less intelligent?

Well I can't speak for the aliens, but I think early humans will have needed just as much bone strength and density as late pre-humans, given that they will have led a similar pre-civilised lifestyle, huntin' and a gatherin' and whatnot

chris
17-08-2008, 09:59 PM
Well, it's nothing to do with genetics because they haven't evolved since then...I think it's due to their diet since some people today train extremely hard...

I was just wondering if anyone had any info on them?

Mo0n5tar
18-08-2008, 03:46 PM
I think the taller beings you are reffering to are named Watusi they were Africans and the precursor to the Geneology of Adam, the other oldest beings on this planet are the Pygmy of completely differing stature to the Watusi, smaller more vulnerable and less able to hunt wild beasts the Pygmy tribes had extensive knowledge of herblore and Naturopathy, they have been called the Geneology of Eve.

I think star wars gets into this esoterically with the Chewbacca being Watusi and Ewok being Pygmie, the Chewy being a great warrior and the Ewok having knowledge on medicine drug/herblore etc.

Also I would add prehistoric man, the builder of the Sphynx, the King's Chamber the ancient observatories, the originator of Geommetry was more than likely Black African, hence why this knowledge is covered up in our overwhelmingly Eurocentric view of the world and history, and why we are told civilisation is no older than Mesopotamia/Sumer when infact it really is!