World leaders

[damp]

First of im completely new to this forum. Hope i'll receive a warm welcome eh?
You'll have to bear over with my english, this not being my native language - i'm from a little (also NWO) country called Denmark. You might know it?

I've noticed in alot of David Ickes lectures he seems to focus an awful lot on Tony Blair og George W. Bitch. But obviously leaders from almost every european country has "sold their country out". I know for a FACT that our prime minister in Denmark has attended, and probably will attend in the future (to the best of my knowledge) the Bilderberg meetings. (talk about treason!)

In the elections Anders Fogh (denmarks prime minister) made the typical promises of tax-cuts and nationalistic politics (he has the danish national-socialist party in his government) - so people just think "wow money, think we'll have you Anders" - and its just turning more and more nightmarish living here if you're not WEALTHY. You cant be different from the norm without being criminalized in one way or another.

So Denmark turned even more fascist than before. Sad.

By the way; If you get a chance, look at a picture of Anders Fogh Rasmussen, AND/OR the danish royalty - I mean these people have SERIOUSLY reptillian eyes. NOT KIDDING!! .. And im not even really buying in to the shapeshiftning thing as such, although i do appreciate the fact that if you stare at ANYONE (at a focused point) for a while, you WILL see them in "a different light" (meaning; the same but still changed).. (you can also try this with ourself, in front of a mirror, just focus on the point right between your eyes)

Any thoughts on these things? ..

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First of im completely new to this forum. Hope i'll receive a warm welcome eh?
You'll have to bear over with my english, this not being my native language - i'm from a little (also NWO) country called Denmark. You might know it?

I've noticed in alot of David Ickes lectures he seems to focus an awful lot on Tony Blair og George W. Bitch. But obviously leaders from almost every european country has "sold their country out". I know for a FACT that our prime minister in Denmark has attended, and probably will attend in the future (to the best of my knowledge) the Bilderberg meetings. (talk about treason!)

In the elections Anders Fogh (denmarks prime minister) made the typical promises of tax-cuts and nationalistic politics (he has the danish national-socialist party in his government) - so people just think "wow money, think we'll have you Anders" - and its just turning more and more nightmarish living here if you're not WEALTHY. You cant be different from the norm without being criminalized in one way or another.

So Denmark turned even more fascist than before. Sad.


I can agree that denmark is becommingmore and more fascist. I think its sad that they have so actively destroyed cultural distinctions like Ungeren and Christiania.

But honestly dude, Denmark is one of the best countries to be alive in today. We have free medical service and if you want to do anything for it, you actually can. You have all the possibilities and benefits the world has to offer.
It's up to you to put them to use.

Some OSCE or whatever repport just told that denmark was actuallythe best country in the world.
Either Ander Fogh is being lead behind the curtains by a sucking up GWB or ese he is in on it. I heard he was jewish, but didn't put much into it. A strange visit to Israel has occured though. GWB came here on his birthday for christ sake

As for being aliens ?
I hardly think that is the case. He looks strange like hell, but that isnt irregular for people to do that and quiet frankly i think it's funny to see people speculate more and more into who being a lizard because they look funny. And the royals are so monitored it had t ocome out.

Welcome to the forum - Umbrex.dk :)

[pollock]

Welcome damp, we are starting to collect some danes on the forum too now, great!
I would tend to agree with both of you, the brain washing in the nordic countrys is very subtle but powerfull because people here are convinced that they are "free"!
The worst thing in dk I feel are the taxes, what the hell are they about`?
Over 50% if you are unlucky, and yes free medical care but the medical system is overloaded with long cues for vital operations and more and more people are choosing private healthcare without the taxes falling, the roads are useless and the schooling sucks, kids dont even learn to read (pushing it a bit to prove my point), where the hell is the money going to???
Theres a lot more, like the blatant pushing people into debt by only showing "do it yourself" and "buy a new house" and such programs on tv, to which people here go baaah and march of to buy a new kitchen!
Danes think they are free, but infact the state owns almost everything they have dispite the privatisation craze here at the mo!
Well anyway, welcome to the forum
Hope you enjoy
F

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The worst thing in dk I feel are the taxes, what the hell are they about`?


Paying off our debt. About 25 billions / year

Over 50% if you are unlucky

We do live in a society based on socialist ideollogy where spreading the wealth is the key.

and yes free medical care but the medical system is overloaded with long cues for vital operations and more and more people are choosing private healthcare without the taxes falling

Most waiting time have been reduced. I believe in the regions. Ofcourse there are some appauling incidents and more money should generally be spent on healthcare.

the roads are useless and the schooling sucks, kids dont even learn to read

Dude your making it sound like a 3rd world country. Nothing is cheap. Yes, the country is turning a bit to the right on the political scale, but this is a necessity for a small country like denmark in a "globalizing" world.
That shit is false, i sincerely dont hope you are from DK. Otherwise i will seriously question if u know how well off you are.


Danes think they are free, but infact the state owns almost everything they have dispite the privatisation craze here at the mo!

Where do u get this stuff from ?

Banks if any...

[pollock]

Paying off our debt. About 25 billions / year



We do live in a society based on socialist ideollogy where spreading the wealth is the key.



Most waiting time have been reduced. I believe in the regions. Ofcourse there are some appauling incidents and more money should generally be spent on healthcare.



Dude your making it sound like a 3rd world country. Nothing is cheap. Yes, the country is turning a bit to the right on the political scale, but this is a necessity for a small country like denmark in a "globalizing" world.
That shit is false, i sincerely dont hope you are from DK. Otherwise i will seriously question if u know how well off you are.



Where do u get this stuff from ?

Banks if any...



Hmmm, well I am sorry if I offended your patriotism, I was merely stating facts as I see them, I am glad that you like the socialist ideollogy you live under!
My sister died due to the danish medical systems incompitence hence I might be a bit negative about it, I do appriciate the fact that medical care is free but I feel the medical community in dk is very tainted by the corruption going on world wide and most doctors ar not even aware that they are pushed to medicate people left and right!
I seriuosly know how well of I am thank you, and I think I might have a bit of a more clear veiw than you but thats just my oppinion and I want to respect yours as well!
Can I ask if you live in a big (well by danish standards) city?

And who owns the banks then?????

Dont get me wrong, I do not hate denmark, I just do not respect the danish government and their way of running it.
Ive lived in sweden norway and denmark and it is no big diffenence in the peoples will to be led if the road seems steady and I feel that people in the nordic countrys have a feeling they are free in the world, which they are not, noone is on a physical plane anymore or do you not believe in there are powers stearing things from behind the curtains?

The fact that the nordic goverments all have ties to the bilderberg group says it all for me!
I use my perception to form my veiws thats where I get this from, imo it sounds like you use mainstream media to form yours, thats fine with me but pleace relax your patriotic nerve a bit and breathe I am not attacking your country just speaking my oppinion!

Peace
F

PS I am not a dude thank you! DS

[pollock]

http://www.greycell.dk/forum.html

http://brokkassen.forumup.dk/forum-13-brokkassen.html

http://www.selvet.dk/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=271

Some danish conspiracy forums if anyone is interested!

F

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Hmmm, well I am sorry if I offended your patriotism

I am not a patriot. As soon as i get my education i'm out of here.

I was merely stating facts as I see them

And allow me to correct

I am glad that you like the socialist ideollogy you live under!

I am actually liberal and i'm loving the change Anders Fogh i bringing.
I am so sorry for your loss, but again i feel this has tainted your objectivoty.

Can I ask if you live in a big (well by danish standards) city?

Medium size

And who owns the banks then?????

Private investors.

I just do not respect the danish government and their way of running it.

Well i do. Record unemployment. Record tradebalance. Reduced waitingtimes. Regions. etc etc.
Denmark is in the best state ever! We werent even better off back in the 60'ies

I feel that people in the nordic countrys have a feeling they are free in the world, which they are not, noone is on a physical plane anymore or do you not believe in there are powers stearing things from behind the curtains?

I do believe Denmark has a part to play in the NWO, either that or our head of state is retarded - which he is not. However, i refuse to believe _everything_ is a conspiracy just because some of it is. You also have to understand that in denmark, politicians cant even fart publicly without getting a headline. This doesnt exclude things from going on behind the scenes, but it defenatly makes it harder.
And no, not every newspaper is under NWO influence.

I use my perception to form my veiws thats where I get this from, imo it sounds like you use mainstream media to form yours

Yeah, well i'm trying to build it on fact, i can't just draw my oppinion from the ether. Again, i refuse to think everything is a conspiracy just because some of it is.

thats fine with me but pleace relax your patriotic nerve a bit and breathe I am not attacking your country just speaking my oppinion!

Again, i am not a patriot, but i will correct you if you are wrong.
Thank you for those links, they are new to me - even though hardly any adresses any danish conspiracies.

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One more thing, do you have any info on the danish government and the bilderbergs ?

[pollock]

One more thing, do you have any info on the danish government and the bilderbergs ?

Heres some

Anders Fogh Rasmussen - Wikipedia, den frie encyklopædi

http://debat.modkraft.dk/read.php?8,48159,48189

http://home8.inet.tele.dk/oktober/kp/KP2000/kp0007/s3.htm

And this is a bit about danish politics

http://www.mandens.dk/mtm_se.asp?Soegeord=Frimure%20og%20magt.%20Part%20 2

Peace
F

[umbrex]

Heres some

http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Fogh_Rasmussen

http://debat.modkraft.dk/read.php?8,48159,48189

http://home8.inet.tele.dk/oktober/kp/KP2000/kp0007/s3.htm

And this is a bit about danish politics

http://www.mandens.dk/mtm_se.asp?Soegeord=Frimure%20og%20magt.%20Part%20 2

Peace
F

Knew about everything, apart from Fogh's membership in the Bilderbergs. It is quiet significant, ty for info :)

[damp]

Wow.. so many replies and interesting points of view,.. I am a little bit overwhelmed right now, so i'll just post a short one here :-)

Thanks for the warm welcome, and i'm glad to find that im not the only dane who've actually heard of David Icke :-)

more to come, i'll just check out some of those danish forum links!..

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